RE: [LegacyUG] Making web page
And just for the record, Microsoft stopped development of Front Page in 2003. The replacement, a much better program, is Expression Web, now in version 4 already. Also for the record, in case anyone is doing a search for the freebie, it’s Kompozer, not Komposer. Bob Rowe From: Richard Falzini [mailto:rfalz...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 3:01 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Making web page Hello, If I want to make my genealogy in to a web site, Can any one assist? I went to the internet tab, clicked create web pages and selected a descendant chart. I clicked create web page, and it did make the site but from there how do I get it to the web??? DO I need a HTML code? Can any one assist? Thanks Rich in Cleveland Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Today's webinar now online - Watch Geoff Live: Cemeteries
At the end of the (excellent!) presentation, it's noted that the Q/A session will be available in the archives at http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/webinars.asp. I haven't been able to find it there - can someone please guide me to it? Thanks, Chris On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Geoff Rasmussen ge...@legacyusers.com wrote: Hello LUGs, The recording of today’s “Watch Geoff Live: Cemeteries” webinar is now online at www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/webinars.asp. Thanks everyone who came – it was my favorite of all the “Watch Geoff Live” webinars. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation ge...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Today's webinar now online - Watch Geoff Live: Cemeteries
Chris, When Geoff says they will be available in the archives, it is always referred to the webinar in question. In this case the cemeteries webinar would have the Q and A within the webinar, not separate. However the WGN-Cemeteries did not have any Q and A, as he browsed the listing of viewers for questions, but most had been handled off-air by Sherry and Brian, or he had mentioned most of the questions in the webinar itself. If you have a question, ask here. Geoff or anyone else will sure to answer a query. Kind Regards Mark Lang -Original Message- From: Chris CG [mailto:914ch...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Today's webinar now online - Watch Geoff Live: Cemeteries At the end of the (excellent!) presentation, it's noted that the Q/A session will be available in the archives at http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/webinars.asp. I haven't been able to find it there - can someone please guide me to it? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Today's webinar now online - Watch Geoff Live: Cemeteries
Chris, Click on the URL where the session is available again, then near the top right hand side of the page click on click here to watch a previous seminar, this takes you down the page and the cemeteries seminar is the third one down. Hope this helps, Janet On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Chris CG 914ch...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of the (excellent!) presentation, it's noted that the Q/A session will be available in the archives at http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/webinars.asp. I haven't been able to find it there - can someone please guide me to it? Thanks, Chris On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Geoff Rasmussen ge...@legacyusers.com wrote: Hello LUGs, The recording of today’s “Watch Geoff Live: Cemeteries” webinar is now online at www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/webinars.asp. Thanks everyone who came – it was my favorite of all the “Watch Geoff Live” webinars. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation ge...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Individual Events vs Marriage Events
I am puzzling on where to put Census (or Residence) Events for a couple. It is clear that a single person in a Census would have the Census as an Individual Event. But where you others put a Census Event for a couple? Individual? Marriage? Both? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Today's webinar now online - Watch Geoff Live: Cemeteries
My mistake - I thought he was saying that there would be a transcript of the questions submitted through attendees' webinar control panels along with answers from Sherry and Brian. On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Janet Bullock j.bullock...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, Click on the URL where the session is available again, then near the top right hand side of the page click on click here to watch a previous seminar, this takes you down the page and the cemeteries seminar is the third one down. Hope this helps, Janet On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Chris CG 914ch...@gmail.com wrote: At the end of the (excellent!) presentation, it's noted that the Q/A session will be available in the archives at http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/webinars.asp. I haven't been able to find it there - can someone please guide me to it? Thanks, Chris On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Geoff Rasmussen ge...@legacyusers.com wrote: Hello LUGs, The recording of today’s “Watch Geoff Live: Cemeteries” webinar is now online at www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/webinars.asp. Thanks everyone who came – it was my favorite of all the “Watch Geoff Live” webinars. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation ge...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Individual Events vs Marriage Events
Bruce, From my POV, that all depends on the context. If they’re single and live alone, then a census or residence I would place under the Individual. If they’re couple/family, I’d put under marriage. Kind Regards Mark Lang From: Bruce Jones [mailto:juicebo...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 7:11 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual Events vs Marriage Events I am puzzling on where to put Census (or Residence) Events for a couple. It is clear that a single person in a Census would have the Census as an Individual Event. But where you others put a Census Event for a couple? Individual? Marriage? Both? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Events vs Marriage Events
Hi Bruce, I am puzzling on where to put Census (or Residence) Events for a couple. It is clear that a single person in a Census would have the Census as an Individual Event. But where you others put a Census Event for a couple? Individual? Marriage? Both? This is something that can be done in a variety of ways (as you've already noticed) and the one that is right is the one that you like and suits your needs. What is right for one person may not be right for another, so consider your options, and how you'd like the entries to appear in your reports. My method is to have a census event for each person. I put a transcript of the census entry for the entire household in the source (in the Text/Comments field of the Source Detail, and check the box to include it in reports), so when I create a report where more than one person in that household appears, that transcript appears only once. I've edited the sentence structure for census events so that when all fields are filled it reads: [HeShe] appeared on the census [onDate] [inPlace] as a [Desc]. [Notes][Sources] The [Desc] field is where I put their age and occupation, such as 3-year-old, or 22-year-old Ironstone Miner - without the quotes I've shown here to distinguish the field contents. These two examples, taken from my great-great-grandfather William Boynton IRELAND, come out reading: He appeared on the census in 1851 in Langtoft, Yorkshire, England as a 3-year-old, and He appeared on the census in 1871 in Rosedale West Side, Lastingham, Yorkshire, England as a 22-year-old Ironstone Miner ... each sentence followed by a superscript number referring to the source information, where a transcript of the household can be seen. When he was three, William had no occupation ascribed to him in the census, so I don't mention any. With the [Desc] field at the end of the sentence, I can add in any other peculiarities of the census entry that I want to mention, or I can use the Notes field, as I feel the need. This suits me. I have developed it over the years, mainly from reading of other people's examples on this list. It might sound like a lot of work, but I use the Event Clipboard, once I've set up the first person, and edit the individual details for each subsequent person after copying the clipboard to a new event for them. The source information is carried along in this clipboard, so you only have to do the bulk of the work once. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy Web CONCEPT pages
Hello All, I have taken a respite for the past couple of months from writing my follow-up book to The Legacy Family PDF to actively put down on paper (well in this case - a web page) my ideas for improved Legacy Web Pages. The current Legacy web pages serve the program well, however, there have been numerous errors (as a programmer) from a web-coder's point of view that have concerned me for the past five major version iterations, as well as out-dated design issues. Some of the problems I have found in the Legacy web pages are the heavy use of tables as a layout format, lots of unclosed tags, which can make the former extremely difficult to following if you are able to understand and read the code. Naturally not a lot of you will look at the code, and because the current code has a degrading factor which browsers exploit and overlook, you'd be none the wiser, unless informed, as I have done. Who cares, well I do for one, and that leads onto the next point about the lack of CSS in the Legacy Web Pages. Cascading Style Sheets allow for all styling to be in one place, making it quicker, neater and easier to change. It is also evolving - CSS 3 is in a roll-out phase, and browsers are changing to adapt as it becomes available. In using CSS 3, I have been able to eliminate a lot of images that would have normally be used for layout such as rounded corners - no longer the case. Tackling these issues, I thought how would I have the web pages designed for Legacy in a way that will give them an all new fresh look. These concept pages have not and probably will not evolve into Legacy, but I am willing to try. And at the same time will be a little fun to see what you all think of the current pages verses the concept pages. Because of the advanced styling techniques used, make sure you are viewing these files using the latest browser version - FF7, Safari, Opera, Chrome15 or IE9. Remember these are concept pages, so may never see the light of day. I have set up specific email addresses in case you wish to respond to any of the web pages. I shall create a special web page that will detail the results if anyone responds. Even if you do not currently use web pages in Legacy, I am interested in what you think as well. To send any feedback, I will only reply to emails sent to the designated email sites I have set up. To do so, navigate to the site below then click the feedback tab is where you will find the email links. For further information, please see, visit the concept pages web site at http://www.easygensolutions.com/concept/index.html. Enjoy. Kind Regards Mark Lang Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Individual Events vs Marriage Events
I'm similar to Bruce. I build the source data in the source clipboard and then create an individual event for the head of household and save that in the event clipboard. I then create individual events for each member of the household, using a few mouse clicks and a bit of editing for the description. My event sentence is On [Date] [HeShe] appeared on the census [~inPlace] where [HeShe] was shown as a [Desc] [Notes].[Sources] I use the description for the occupation and the notes for extra information, including such things as she was living with her son Fred and daughter-in-law Mary. I've not used ages in the description, but I think I will in future. Nice one Bruce. Obviously, when the Desc is missing, that part of the sentence isn't used. I use the short location name as I don't like having the full location in each sentence. I generally drop the country and state/county, but sometimes use the county to distinguish between Newcastle and Newcastle NSW. I also change the prefix from in to at when there is a street or house name in the location. in Newcastle but at at 3 High Street, Newcastle Hope that is helpful Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ?
I know a lot of people do treat the census as an EVENT in someone's life and I guess a lot of the professional genealogists do this, but I'm still puzzled by why? To me a census is a SOURCE of information to collaborate events in a person's life - birth, marriage, etc. But I never treat a census as an event. People did not attend any census meeting about themselves or conduct a census about themselves. Therefore, there is another school of thought on this and that is to use the census as a SOURCE and not as an EVENT. But, again, Legacy will let you do it either way - just making sure the other school of thought is not lost on this Jerry in Michigan / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org On 11/05/2011 05:33 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Bruce, I am puzzling on where to put Census (or Residence) Events for a couple. It is clear that a single person in a Census would have the Census as an Individual Event. But where you others put a Census Event for a couple? Individual? Marriage? Both? This is something that can be done in a variety of ways (as you've already noticed) and the one that is right is the one that you like and suits your needs. What is right for one person may not be right for another, so consider your options, and how you'd like the entries to appear in your reports. My method is to have a census event for each person. I put a transcript of the census entry for the entire household in the source (in the Text/Comments field of the Source Detail, and check the box to include it in reports), so when I create a report where more than one person in that household appears, that transcript appears only once. I've edited the sentence structure for census events so that when all fields are filled it reads: [HeShe] appeared on the census [onDate] [inPlace] as a [Desc]. [Notes][Sources] The [Desc] field is where I put their age and occupation, such as 3-year-old, or 22-year-old Ironstone Miner - without the quotes I've shown here to distinguish the field contents. These two examples, taken from my great-great-grandfather William Boynton IRELAND, come out reading: He appeared on the census in 1851 in Langtoft, Yorkshire, England as a 3-year-old, and He appeared on the census in 1871 in Rosedale West Side, Lastingham, Yorkshire, England as a 22-year-old Ironstone Miner ... each sentence followed by a superscript number referring to the source information, where a transcript of the household can be seen. When he was three, William had no occupation ascribed to him in the census, so I don't mention any. With the [Desc] field at the end of the sentence, I can add in any other peculiarities of the census entry that I want to mention, or I can use the Notes field, as I feel the need. This suits me. I have developed it over the years, mainly from reading of other people's examples on this list. It might sound like a lot of work, but I use the Event Clipboard, once I've set up the first person, and edit the individual details for each subsequent person after copying the clipboard to a new event for them. The source information is carried along in this clipboard, so you only have to do the bulk of the work once. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Individual Events vs Marriage Events
Thanks. That was very helpful and detailed. I like it. I wonder how the God with clay feet handles it? :) On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bruce, I am puzzling on where to put Census (or Residence) Events for a couple. It is clear that a single person in a Census would have the Census as an Individual Event. But where you others put a Census Event for a couple? Individual? Marriage? Both? This is something that can be done in a variety of ways (as you've already noticed) and the one that is right is the one that you like and suits your needs. What is right for one person may not be right for another, so consider your options, and how you'd like the entries to appear in your reports. My method is to have a census event for each person. I put a transcript of the census entry for the entire household in the source (in the Text/Comments field of the Source Detail, and check the box to include it in reports), so when I create a report where more than one person in that household appears, that transcript appears only once. I've edited the sentence structure for census events so that when all fields are filled it reads: [HeShe] appeared on the census [onDate] [inPlace] as a [Desc]. [Notes][Sources] The [Desc] field is where I put their age and occupation, such as 3-year-old, or 22-year-old Ironstone Miner - without the quotes I've shown here to distinguish the field contents. These two examples, taken from my great-great-grandfather William Boynton IRELAND, come out reading: He appeared on the census in 1851 in Langtoft, Yorkshire, England as a 3-year-old, and He appeared on the census in 1871 in Rosedale West Side, Lastingham, Yorkshire, England as a 22-year-old Ironstone Miner ... each sentence followed by a superscript number referring to the source information, where a transcript of the household can be seen. When he was three, William had no occupation ascribed to him in the census, so I don't mention any. With the [Desc] field at the end of the sentence, I can add in any other peculiarities of the census entry that I want to mention, or I can use the Notes field, as I feel the need. This suits me. I have developed it over the years, mainly from reading of other people's examples on this list. It might sound like a lot of work, but I use the Event Clipboard, once I've set up the first person, and edit the individual details for each subsequent person after copying the clipboard to a new event for them. The source information is carried along in this clipboard, so you only have to do the bulk of the work once. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Individual Events vs Marriage Events
Apologies to Wendy, for thanking Bruce for the idea of putting ages in the description. Thanks should hve gone to Wendy for the idea. Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ?
I don't think that it is likely to be forgotten, Jerry, as many of us absolutely agree with you (myself included). Which is why I do not normally bother with this debate. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:40 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ? I know a lot of people do treat the census as an EVENT in someone's life and I guess a lot of the professional genealogists do this, but I'm still puzzled by why? To me a census is a SOURCE of information to collaborate events in a person's life - birth, marriage, etc. But I never treat a census as an event. People did not attend any census meeting about themselves or conduct a census about themselves. Therefore, there is another school of thought on this and that is to use the census as a SOURCE and not as an EVENT. But, again, Legacy will let you do it either way - just making sure the other school of thought is not lost on this Jerry in Michigan / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org On 11/05/2011 05:33 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Bruce, I am puzzling on where to put Census (or Residence) Events for a couple. It is clear that a single person in a Census would have the Census as an Individual Event. But where you others put a Census Event for a couple? Individual? Marriage? Both? This is something that can be done in a variety of ways (as you've already noticed) and the one that is right is the one that you like and suits your needs. What is right for one person may not be right for another, so consider your options, and how you'd like the entries to appear in your reports. My method is to have a census event for each person. I put a transcript of the census entry for the entire household in the source (in the Text/Comments field of the Source Detail, and check the box to include it in reports), so when I create a report where more than one person in that household appears, that transcript appears only once. I've edited the sentence structure for census events so that when all fields are filled it reads: [HeShe] appeared on the census [onDate] [inPlace] as a [Desc]. [Notes][Sources] The [Desc] field is where I put their age and occupation, such as 3-year-old, or 22-year-old Ironstone Miner - without the quotes I've shown here to distinguish the field contents. These two examples, taken from my great-great-grandfather William Boynton IRELAND, come out reading: He appeared on the census in 1851 in Langtoft, Yorkshire, England as a 3-year-old, and He appeared on the census in 1871 in Rosedale West Side, Lastingham, Yorkshire, England as a 22-year-old Ironstone Miner ... each sentence followed by a superscript number referring to the source information, where a transcript of the household can be seen. When he was three, William had no occupation ascribed to him in the census, so I don't mention any. With the [Desc] field at the end of the sentence, I can add in any other peculiarities of the census entry that I want to mention, or I can use the Notes field, as I feel the need. This suits me. I have developed it over the years, mainly from reading of other people's examples on this list. It might sound like a lot of work, but I use the Event Clipboard, once I've set up the first person, and edit the individual details for each subsequent person after copying the clipboard to a new event for them. The source information is carried along in this clipboard, so you only have to do the bulk of the work once. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ?
How would you respond if the conversation was about Residences sources from a Census? Would you create an Individual Event or a Marriage Event (or both?) On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote: I don't think that it is likely to be forgotten, Jerry, as many of us absolutely agree with you (myself included). Which is why I do not normally bother with this debate. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:40 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ? I know a lot of people do treat the census as an EVENT in someone's life and I guess a lot of the professional genealogists do this, but I'm still puzzled by why? To me a census is a SOURCE of information to collaborate events in a person's life - birth, marriage, etc. But I never treat a census as an event. People did not attend any census meeting about themselves or conduct a census about themselves. Therefore, there is another school of thought on this and that is to use the census as a SOURCE and not as an EVENT. But, again, Legacy will let you do it either way - just making sure the other school of thought is not lost on this Jerry in Michigan / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org On 11/05/2011 05:33 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Bruce, I am puzzling on where to put Census (or Residence) Events for a couple. It is clear that a single person in a Census would have the Census as an Individual Event. But where you others put a Census Event for a couple? Individual? Marriage? Both? This is something that can be done in a variety of ways (as you've already noticed) and the one that is right is the one that you like and suits your needs. What is right for one person may not be right for another, so consider your options, and how you'd like the entries to appear in your reports. My method is to have a census event for each person. I put a transcript of the census entry for the entire household in the source (in the Text/Comments field of the Source Detail, and check the box to include it in reports), so when I create a report where more than one person in that household appears, that transcript appears only once. I've edited the sentence structure for census events so that when all fields are filled it reads: [HeShe] appeared on the census [onDate] [inPlace] as a [Desc]. [Notes][Sources] The [Desc] field is where I put their age and occupation, such as 3-year-old, or 22-year-old Ironstone Miner - without the quotes I've shown here to distinguish the field contents. These two examples, taken from my great-great-grandfather William Boynton IRELAND, come out reading: He appeared on the census in 1851 in Langtoft, Yorkshire, England as a 3-year-old, and He appeared on the census in 1871 in Rosedale West Side, Lastingham, Yorkshire, England as a 22-year-old Ironstone Miner ... each sentence followed by a superscript number referring to the source information, where a transcript of the household can be seen. When he was three, William had no occupation ascribed to him in the census, so I don't mention any. With the [Desc] field at the end of the sentence, I can add in any other peculiarities of the census entry that I want to mention, or I can use the Notes field, as I feel the need. This suits me. I have developed it over the years, mainly from reading of other people's examples on this list. It might sound like a lot of work, but I use the Event Clipboard, once I've set up the first person, and edit the individual details for each subsequent person after copying the clipboard to a new event for them. The source information is carried along in this clipboard, so you only have to do the bulk of the work once. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog
Re: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ?
That should have read Residences sourced... On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com wrote: How would you respond if the conversation was about Residences sources from a Census? Would you create an Individual Event or a Marriage Event (or both?) On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote: I don't think that it is likely to be forgotten, Jerry, as many of us absolutely agree with you (myself included). Which is why I do not normally bother with this debate. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:40 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ? I know a lot of people do treat the census as an EVENT in someone's life and I guess a lot of the professional genealogists do this, but I'm still puzzled by why? To me a census is a SOURCE of information to collaborate events in a person's life - birth, marriage, etc. But I never treat a census as an event. People did not attend any census meeting about themselves or conduct a census about themselves. Therefore, there is another school of thought on this and that is to use the census as a SOURCE and not as an EVENT. But, again, Legacy will let you do it either way - just making sure the other school of thought is not lost on this Jerry in Michigan / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org On 11/05/2011 05:33 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Bruce, I am puzzling on where to put Census (or Residence) Events for a couple. It is clear that a single person in a Census would have the Census as an Individual Event. But where you others put a Census Event for a couple? Individual? Marriage? Both? This is something that can be done in a variety of ways (as you've already noticed) and the one that is right is the one that you like and suits your needs. What is right for one person may not be right for another, so consider your options, and how you'd like the entries to appear in your reports. My method is to have a census event for each person. I put a transcript of the census entry for the entire household in the source (in the Text/Comments field of the Source Detail, and check the box to include it in reports), so when I create a report where more than one person in that household appears, that transcript appears only once. I've edited the sentence structure for census events so that when all fields are filled it reads: [HeShe] appeared on the census [onDate] [inPlace] as a [Desc]. [Notes][Sources] The [Desc] field is where I put their age and occupation, such as 3-year-old, or 22-year-old Ironstone Miner - without the quotes I've shown here to distinguish the field contents. These two examples, taken from my great-great-grandfather William Boynton IRELAND, come out reading: He appeared on the census in 1851 in Langtoft, Yorkshire, England as a 3-year-old, and He appeared on the census in 1871 in Rosedale West Side, Lastingham, Yorkshire, England as a 22-year-old Ironstone Miner ... each sentence followed by a superscript number referring to the source information, where a transcript of the household can be seen. When he was three, William had no occupation ascribed to him in the census, so I don't mention any. With the [Desc] field at the end of the sentence, I can add in any other peculiarities of the census entry that I want to mention, or I can use the Notes field, as I feel the need. This suits me. I have developed it over the years, mainly from reading of other people's examples on this list. It might sound like a lot of work, but I use the Event Clipboard, once I've set up the first person, and edit the individual details for each subsequent person after copying the clipboard to a new event for them. The source information is carried along in this clipboard, so you only have to do the bulk of the work once. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support:
Re: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ?
Bruce, I do have Residence Events and Occupation events which, if appropriate, have a census for the Source. If a person is not cohabiting then clearly it is an Individual's Residence Event, if cohabiting a Marriage Event (others, I know, do this differently - but you asked me :-) ) and if widowed, or a partner is absent, then I again use an Individual event. The rider to questions like this, is my usual one of: do that which suits you - there is no right nor wrong. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk From: Bruce Jones Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 12:03 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ? How would you respond if the conversation was about Residences sources from a Census? Would you create an Individual Event or a Marriage Event (or both?) On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: I don't think that it is likely to be forgotten, Jerry, as many of us absolutely agree with you (myself included). Which is why I do not normally bother with this debate. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:40 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ? I know a lot of people do treat the census as an EVENT in someone's life and I guess a lot of the professional genealogists do this, but I'm still puzzled by why? To me a census is a SOURCE of information to collaborate events in a person's life - birth, marriage, etc. But I never treat a census as an event. People did not attend any census meeting about themselves or conduct a census about themselves. Therefore, there is another school of thought on this and that is to use the census as a SOURCE and not as an EVENT. But, again, Legacy will let you do it either way - just making sure the other school of thought is not lost on this Jerry in Michigan / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org On 11/05/2011 05:33 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Bruce, I am puzzling on where to put Census (or Residence) Events for a couple. It is clear that a single person in a Census would have the Census as an Individual Event. But where you others put a Census Event for a couple? Individual? Marriage? Both? This is something that can be done in a variety of ways (as you've already noticed) and the one that is right is the one that you like and suits your needs. What is right for one person may not be right for another, so consider your options, and how you'd like the entries to appear in your reports. My method is to have a census event for each person. I put a transcript of the census entry for the entire household in the source (in the Text/Comments field of the Source Detail, and check the box to include it in reports), so when I create a report where more than one person in that household appears, that transcript appears only once. I've edited the sentence structure for census events so that when all fields are filled it reads: [HeShe] appeared on the census [onDate] [inPlace] as a [Desc]. [Notes][Sources] The [Desc] field is where I put their age and occupation, such as 3-year-old, or 22-year-old Ironstone Miner - without the quotes I've shown here to distinguish the field contents. These two examples, taken from my great-great-grandfather William Boynton IRELAND, come out reading: He appeared on the census in 1851 in Langtoft, Yorkshire, England as a 3-year-old, and He appeared on the census in 1871 in Rosedale West Side, Lastingham, Yorkshire, England as a 22-year-old Ironstone Miner ... each sentence followed by a superscript number referring to the source information, where a transcript of the household can be seen. When he was three, William had no occupation ascribed to him in the census, so I don't mention any. With the [Desc] field at the end of the sentence, I can add in any other peculiarities of the census entry that I want to mention, or I can use the Notes field, as I feel the need. This suits me. I have developed it over the years, mainly from reading of other people's examples on this list. It might sound like a lot of work, but I use the Event Clipboard, once I've set up the first person, and edit the individual details for each subsequent person after copying the clipboard to a new event for them. The source information is carried along in this clipboard, so you only have to do the bulk of the work once. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our
Re: [LegacyUG] Mary Hill file system products - Australia
Jennifer, I think you may find that America has different size paper to us, so you may have to adapt your thinking to Aussie sizes - I did not see the webinar. At 09:52 AM 6/11/2011, you wrote: Is there anyone in Australia using the Mary Hill colour file system? Her shopping list is here: http://www.familyrootsorganizer.com/tips/shopping.htmhttp://www.familyrootsorganizer.com/tips/shopping.htm Having watched the recent webinar, I thought I might give it a go, but can't find locally some of the products she uses. The labels for file folders is one item apparently not available here. Also, I am not sure I will find the manila folders, 1/3 cut tabs. If anyone in Australia has adapted it to use locally available products, I would love to hear about it. Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com Susan Perrett Melbourne, Australia English webpage: http://www.st.net.au/~susanp/index.html American webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~susanp Research: ALSTON-Suffolk/Bedford/America,post 1850, BOURCHIER-UK, post 1650, CHUDLEIGH-Devon, All, HOLTTUM-Kent,pre 1720,MARTEN-Sussex,pre 1660, OXENDEN-Kent, All. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Mary Hill file system products - Australia
Susan, it is not the paper size that is a problem, it is the tabbed manila folders which don't seem to be available here, nor the labels that go on them. I have been using the MRIN filing system, and I may just stick with that. Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com -Original Message- From: Susan Perrett [mailto:sus...@st.net.au] Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:37 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mary Hill file system products - Australia Jennifer, I think you may find that America has different size paper to us, so you may have to adapt your thinking to Aussie sizes - I did not see the webinar. At 09:52 AM 6/11/2011, you wrote: Is there anyone in Australia using the Mary Hill colour file system? Her shopping list is here: http://www.familyrootsorganizer.com/tips/shopping.htmhttp://www.familyrootsorganizer.com/tips/shopping.htm Having watched the recent webinar, I thought I might give it a go, but can't find locally some of the products she uses. The labels for file folders is one item apparently not available here. Also, I am not sure I will find the manila folders, 1/3 cut tabs. If anyone in Australia has adapted it to use locally available products, I would love to hear about it. Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Mary Hill Webinar
This used to be my filing system but I have A LOT of documents that are on people that are not in my direct line. This system works better for those researchers that stick pretty close to their direct lines only. If you do cluster genealogy to try and figure out who everyone is in a specific area this won't work for you. The other problem you will have is that you are supposed to print a pedigree chart for each line as well as family group sheets for every couple/file. As you do research and make changes/additions, you are constantly reprinting these. I use a completely different system now. HOWEVER, I do like the 4 color option in Legacy which goes along with this system and I like printing out my charts in 4 color. It does help you to keep your lines straight and it makes your charts look cool :) :) Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ?
Jerry said: I know a lot of people do treat the census as an EVENT in someone's life and I guess a lot of the professional genealogists do this, but I'm still puzzled by why? To me a census is a SOURCE of information to collaborate events in a person's life - birth, marriage, etc. But I never treat a census as an event. I'm not a professional, so cannot speak for their practices. ;-) I guess that is a difference in recording style and what we use Legacy for, and something that each of us must work out for ourselves. Sure, from a census document I could record a residence event, an occupation event, and any number of other events depending on what was recorded at the time. The way I use Legacy is to record the information as I find it, not to create a file where I can print out a report and produce a life story. So I record census entries, newspaper reports, etc, as single events rather than as multiple events separating out what the contents of those sources are telling me. It works for me, which is what is important for my file on my computer. May not work for someone else, and that doesn't make it wrong. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ?
I too record the census as an event because it is something that took place at a specific time and a specific place. I also use the census as a SOURCE for the specific information on the record (name, date of birth, place of birth, relationship to others in the family group) but I do not record things like occupation or residence separately because that would be redundant. michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ?
For many years, I used the residence and occupation events to capture census information. After watching Geoff's Adding a Census Record, I began to experiment with his method and I fell in love with it. Perhaps it is the transcription that makes the most difference and the method to store images of the census records. In any case, I am in the process of deleting occupation events and converting residence events to census events. I just makes so much more sense to me now that I understand it. For what it's worth. . . dave David L. Johnson Happiness is a CHOICE -Original Message- From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 4:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ? I know a lot of people do treat the census as an EVENT in someone's life and I guess a lot of the professional genealogists do this, but I'm still puzzled by why? To me a census is a SOURCE of information to collaborate events in a person's life - birth, marriage, etc. But I never treat a census as an event. People did not attend any census meeting about themselves or conduct a census about themselves. Therefore, there is another school of thought on this and that is to use the census as a SOURCE and not as an EVENT. But, again, Legacy will let you do it either way - just making sure the other school of thought is not lost on this Jerry in Michigan / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org On 11/05/2011 05:33 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Bruce, I am puzzling on where to put Census (or Residence) Events for a couple. It is clear that a single person in a Census would have the Census as an Individual Event. But where you others put a Census Event for a couple? Individual? Marriage? Both? This is something that can be done in a variety of ways (as you've already noticed) and the one that is right is the one that you like and suits your needs. What is right for one person may not be right for another, so consider your options, and how you'd like the entries to appear in your reports. My method is to have a census event for each person. I put a transcript of the census entry for the entire household in the source (in the Text/Comments field of the Source Detail, and check the box to include it in reports), so when I create a report where more than one person in that household appears, that transcript appears only once. I've edited the sentence structure for census events so that when all fields are filled it reads: [HeShe] appeared on the census [onDate] [inPlace] as a [Desc]. [Notes][Sources] The [Desc] field is where I put their age and occupation, such as 3-year-old, or 22-year-old Ironstone Miner - without the quotes I've shown here to distinguish the field contents. These two examples, taken from my great-great-grandfather William Boynton IRELAND, come out reading: He appeared on the census in 1851 in Langtoft, Yorkshire, England as a 3-year-old, and He appeared on the census in 1871 in Rosedale West Side, Lastingham, Yorkshire, England as a 22-year-old Ironstone Miner ... each sentence followed by a superscript number referring to the source information, where a transcript of the household can be seen. When he was three, William had no occupation ascribed to him in the census, so I don't mention any. With the [Desc] field at the end of the sentence, I can add in any other peculiarities of the census entry that I want to mention, or I can use the Notes field, as I feel the need. This suits me. I have developed it over the years, mainly from reading of other people's examples on this list. It might sound like a lot of work, but I use the Event Clipboard, once I've set up the first person, and edit the individual details for each subsequent person after copying the clipboard to a new event for them. The source information is carried along in this clipboard, so you only have to do the bulk of the work once. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp
[LegacyUG] Basic Legacy Family Tree Question(s)
I am not a 'newbie' to genealogy but am new to Legacy Family Tree. Over approximately 18 years, I have traced my paternal family line to 1610 and my maternal family line to 1744. I have approximately 1500 (and it is growing) individuals identified and have images of hundreds of documents such as the census, land records, wills, marriage applications, citizenship applications, registration cards, cemetery plat plans, maps, court records, history book references, etc . All of this information is contained in an Excel file that I designed. All associated documents are either embedded or linked into this file. The Excel file is an easily used/readily visible file but is not sufficiently compatible with the myriad of relationships that I have encountered and the volume of material is such that I have now resorted to the Legacy package to be able to put the information into a searchable, consistent format and to generate various trees and reports. Not being familiar with these types of family tree packages, this brings me to two questions: 1) Is it better to load all information into one family file: from 1610 down to present day (13 generations), including many, many branches along the way and then take a similar route up the other side of the family to 1744? Or is it better to break it up into random family trees that are, in reality, all connected? 2) Page 277 of the Legacy User Guide says that documents and other types of files that are attached in this manner will not be included on report or web sites. They are simply for documentation purposes. I have no intentions of putting my files on a website but the bulk, by far, of my information is documents of various types along with some photos, most in jpg. The documents are in various formats. I want those documents in the reports and included in e-books or printed books, dvds, etc. Do I understand this guide properly? Thanks for your consideration. Al Mieswinkel Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ?
Hi Jerry You may not have noticed but the Events (in Legacy) has been named Events/Facts, to highlight that the structure can be used to record events and facts. It could be that some users are recording the census as a fact. However I would do as you - the census is a source, the residence is a fact. Cheers, Brett B McL Robinson Tel +64 7 856 6582, 0277 500 714, fax +64 7 856 6582, Skype AB1252 PO Box 1252, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand On 6/11/2011 11:40 a.m., Jerry wrote: I know a lot of people do treat the census as an EVENT in someone's life and I guess a lot of the professional genealogists do this, but I'm still puzzled by why? To me a census is a SOURCE of information to collaborate events in a person's life - birth, marriage, etc. But I never treat a census as an event. People did not attend any census meeting about themselves or conduct a census about themselves. Therefore, there is another school of thought on this and that is to use the census as a SOURCE and not as an EVENT. But, again, Legacy will let you do it either way - just making sure the other school of thought is not lost on this Jerry in Michigan / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org On 11/05/2011 05:33 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Bruce, I am puzzling on where to put Census (or Residence) Events for a couple. It is clear that a single person in a Census would have the Census as an Individual Event. But where you others put a Census Event for a couple? Individual? Marriage? Both? This is something that can be done in a variety of ways (as you've already noticed) and the one that is right is the one that you like and suits your needs. What is right for one person may not be right for another, so consider your options, and how you'd like the entries to appear in your reports. My method is to have a census event for each person. I put a transcript of the census entry for the entire household in the source (in the Text/Comments field of the Source Detail, and check the box to include it in reports), so when I create a report where more than one person in that household appears, that transcript appears only once. I've edited the sentence structure for census events so that when all fields are filled it reads: [HeShe] appeared on the census [onDate] [inPlace] as a [Desc]. [Notes][Sources] The [Desc] field is where I put their age and occupation, such as 3-year-old, or 22-year-old Ironstone Miner - without the quotes I've shown here to distinguish the field contents. These two examples, taken from my great-great-grandfather William Boynton IRELAND, come out reading: He appeared on the census in 1851 in Langtoft, Yorkshire, England as a 3-year-old, and He appeared on the census in 1871 in Rosedale West Side, Lastingham, Yorkshire, England as a 22-year-old Ironstone Miner ... each sentence followed by a superscript number referring to the source information, where a transcript of the household can be seen. When he was three, William had no occupation ascribed to him in the census, so I don't mention any. With the [Desc] field at the end of the sentence, I can add in any other peculiarities of the census entry that I want to mention, or I can use the Notes field, as I feel the need. This suits me. I have developed it over the years, mainly from reading of other people's examples on this list. It might sound like a lot of work, but I use the Event Clipboard, once I've set up the first person, and edit the individual details for each subsequent person after copying the clipboard to a new event for them. The source information is carried along in this clipboard, so you only have to do the bulk of the work once. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived
RE: [LegacyUG] Mary Hill file system products - Australia
Jennifer, I am amazed that third-tabbed folders are not available, maybe check online, but are straight-tabbed manila folders available? You could still use the left - center- right sides of the folders to do essentially the same thing. I could mail you some labels, if you'd like. Jerry /http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Susan, it is not the paper size that is a problem, it is the tabbed manila folders which don't seem to be available here, nor the labels that go on them. I have been using the MRIN filing system, and I may just stick with that. Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com -Original Message- From: Susan Perrett [mailto:sus...@st.net.au] Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:37 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mary Hill file system products - Australia Jennifer, I think you may find that America has different size paper to us, so you may have to adapt your thinking to Aussie sizes - I did not see the webinar. At 09:52 AM 6/11/2011, you wrote: Is there anyone in Australia using the Mary Hill colour file system? Her shopping list is here: http://www.familyrootsorganizer.com/tips/shopping.htmhttp://www.familyrootsorganizer.com/tips/shopping.htm Having watched the recent webinar, I thought I might give it a go, but can't find locally some of the products she uses. The labels for file folders is one item apparently not available here. Also, I am not sure I will find the manila folders, 1/3 cut tabs. If anyone in Australia has adapted it to use locally available products, I would love to hear about it. Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can anyone help me with a simple question?
Sandra Sorry coming in late on this one. I think Bernhard's comment is important, about biological wonder. I suspect that the child have a biological father and mother, and then another set of parents. Or was it the child had a mother who then had a partner. I would try and unravel the situation before recording it, as there are perhaps three important steps to record - birth (the child's birth parents, perhaps one is unknown), perhaps adoption, and same sex partnership. Cheers, Brett B McL Robinson Tel +64 7 856 6582, 0277 500 714, fax +64 7 856 6582, Skype AB1252 PO Box 1252, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand On 5/11/2011 10:28 a.m., Bernhard Scholz wrote: Sandra, wow this topic is a hard one. First of all if a man and a woman live together and have a child you can use the marriage information and say that this couple never married. Depending to to local laws just enter the name of the child the surname depends to your local laws. Uptoday Legacy doesn't support bisexual marriages which is not the state of art. More and more countries are allowing this. And at last you say your cousin and her lesbian partner had a child. WOW!!! That's a biological wonder. Upto day a woman needs a man to get pregnant. For the rest just add the father as unknown From: Sandra Ludwig [mailto:sandral18...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 7:38 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Can anyone help me with a simple question? Hi everyone: I know this program is LDS based so I'm a little shy asking this. How does one list a live-in partner, either opposite or same-sex? In my family (as in so many families these days) we have some couples who lived together for many years, but did not marry, no children. Also, recently, my cousin and her lesbian partner had a child. How do I include all this? I'm very new to Legacy so I could use some tips. Thanks! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ?
Thanks for explaining, Wendy. I started using computers long before I did genealogy, since the 1970s. I can't find fault with what works for you - I just think ultra-analytically - like a computer or dictionary, I guess. You perhaps think more like an historian.Jerry Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote: Jerry said: I know a lot of people do treat the census as an EVENT in someone's life and I guess a lot of the professional genealogists do this, but I'm still puzzled by why? To me a census is a SOURCE of information to collaborate events in a person's life - birth, marriage, etc. But I never treat a census as an event. I'm not a professional, so cannot speak for their practices. ;-) I guess that is a difference in recording style and what we use Legacy for, and something that each of us must work out for ourselves. Sure, from a census document I could record a residence event, an occupation event, and any number of other events depending on what was recorded at the time. The way I use Legacy is to record the information as I find it, not to create a file where I can print out a report and produce a life story. So I record census entries, newspaper reports, etc, as single events rather than as multiple events separating out what the contents of those sources are telling me. It works for me, which is what is important for my file on my computer. May not work for someone else, and that doesn't make it wrong. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ?
I'm sorry I missed that, but let me ask you something. How would you do reporting or have a list of all residences or occupations if you put everything under the census as an event? Jerry Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com wrote: For many years, I used the residence and occupation events to capture census information. After watching Geoff's Adding a Census Record, I began to experiment with his method and I fell in love with it. Perhaps it is the transcription that makes the most difference and the method to store images of the census records. In any case, I am in the process of deleting occupation events and converting residence events to census events. I just makes so much more sense to me now that I understand it. For what it's worth. . . dave David L. Johnson Happiness is a CHOICE -Original Message- From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 4:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ? I know a lot of people do treat the census as an EVENT in someone's life and I guess a lot of the professional genealogists do this, but I'm still puzzled by why? To me a census is a SOURCE of information to collaborate events in a person's life - birth, marriage, etc. But I never treat a census as an event. People did not attend any census meeting about themselves or conduct a census about themselves. Therefore, there is another school of thought on this and that is to use the census as a SOURCE and not as an EVENT. But, again, Legacy will let you do it either way - just making sure the other school of thought is not lost on this Jerry in Michigan / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org On 11/05/2011 05:33 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Bruce, I am puzzling on where to put Census (or Residence) Events for a couple. It is clear that a single person in a Census would have the Census as an Individual Event. But where you others put a Census Event for a couple? Individual? Marriage? Both? This is something that can be done in a variety of ways (as you've already noticed) and the one that is right is the one that you like and suits your needs. What is right for one person may not be right for another, so consider your options, and how you'd like the entries to appear in your reports. My method is to have a census event for each person. I put a transcript of the census entry for the entire household in the source (in the Text/Comments field of the Source Detail, and check the box to include it in reports), so when I create a report where more than one person in that household appears, that transcript appears only once. I've edited the sentence structure for census events so that when all fields are filled it reads: [HeShe] appeared on the census [onDate] [inPlace] as a [Desc]. [Notes][Sources] The [Desc] field is where I put their age and occupation, such as 3-year-old, or 22-year-old Ironstone Miner - without the quotes I've shown here to distinguish the field contents. These two examples, taken from my great-great-grandfather William Boynton IRELAND, come out reading: He appeared on the census in 1851 in Langtoft, Yorkshire, England as a 3-year-old, and He appeared on the census in 1871 in Rosedale West Side, Lastingham, Yorkshire, England as a 22-year-old Ironstone Miner ... each sentence followed by a superscript number referring to the source information, where a transcript of the household can be seen. When he was three, William had no occupation ascribed to him in the census, so I don't mention any. With the [Desc] field at the end of the sentence, I can add in any other peculiarities of the census entry that I want to mention, or I can use the Notes field, as I feel the need. This suits me. I have developed it over the years, mainly from reading of other people's examples on this list. It might sound like a lot of work, but I use the Event Clipboard, once I've set up the first person, and edit the individual details for each subsequent person after copying the clipboard to a new event for them. The source information is carried along in this clipboard, so you only have to do the bulk of the work once. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
Re: [LegacyUG] CENSUS: Event or Source ?
Good points, Brett. Jerry Brett McL Robinson b...@vodafone.co.nz wrote: Hi Jerry You may not have noticed but the Events (in Legacy) has been named Events/Facts, to highlight that the structure can be used to record events and facts. It could be that some users are recording the census as a fact. However I would do as you - the census is a source, the residence is a fact. Cheers, Brett B McL Robinson Tel +64 7 856 6582, 0277 500 714, fax +64 7 856 6582, Skype AB1252 PO Box 1252, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand On 6/11/2011 11:40 a.m., Jerry wrote: I know a lot of people do treat the census as an EVENT in someone's life and I guess a lot of the professional genealogists do this, but I'm still puzzled by why? To me a census is a SOURCE of information to collaborate events in a person's life - birth, marriage, etc. But I never treat a census as an event. People did not attend any census meeting about themselves or conduct a census about themselves. Therefore, there is another school of thought on this and that is to use the census as a SOURCE and not as an EVENT. But, again, Legacy will let you do it either way - just making sure the other school of thought is not lost on this Jerry in Michigan / http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org On 11/05/2011 05:33 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Bruce, I am puzzling on where to put Census (or Residence) Events for a couple. It is clear that a single person in a Census would have the Census as an Individual Event. But where you others put a Census Event for a couple? Individual? Marriage? Both? This is something that can be done in a variety of ways (as you've already noticed) and the one that is right is the one that you like and suits your needs. What is right for one person may not be right for another, so consider your options, and how you'd like the entries to appear in your reports. My method is to have a census event for each person. I put a transcript of the census entry for the entire household in the source (in the Text/Comments field of the Source Detail, and check the box to include it in reports), so when I create a report where more than one person in that household appears, that transcript appears only once. I've edited the sentence structure for census events so that when all fields are filled it reads: [HeShe] appeared on the census [onDate] [inPlace] as a [Desc]. [Notes][Sources] The [Desc] field is where I put their age and occupation, such as 3-year-old, or 22-year-old Ironstone Miner - without the quotes I've shown here to distinguish the field contents. These two examples, taken from my great-great-grandfather William Boynton IRELAND, come out reading: He appeared on the census in 1851 in Langtoft, Yorkshire, England as a 3-year-old, and He appeared on the census in 1871 in Rosedale West Side, Lastingham, Yorkshire, England as a 22-year-old Ironstone Miner ... each sentence followed by a superscript number referring to the source information, where a transcript of the household can be seen. When he was three, William had no occupation ascribed to him in the census, so I don't mention any. With the [Desc] field at the end of the sentence, I can add in any other peculiarities of the census entry that I want to mention, or I can use the Notes field, as I feel the need. This suits me. I have developed it over the years, mainly from reading of other people's examples on this list. It might sound like a lot of work, but I use the Event Clipboard, once I've set up the first person, and edit the individual details for each subsequent person after copying the clipboard to a new event for them. The source information is carried along in this clipboard, so you only have to do the bulk of the work once. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group
RE: [LegacyUG] Mary Hill file system products - Australia
Jerry, I am not amazed! With our small population, there are many things easily available in other countries that are not available here. I did look online, but they are not available, though one company seemed at one time to import them from the US, but are currently Unavailable. We do have manila folders with just straight tabs, and you are right - they would probably work. I will contact you off list re your kind offer. Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com -Original Message- From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 2:34 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Mary Hill file system products - Australia Jennifer, I am amazed that third-tabbed folders are not available, maybe check online, but are straight-tabbed manila folders available? You could still use the left - center- right sides of the folders to do essentially the same thing. I could mail you some labels, if you'd like. Jerry /http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Susan, it is not the paper size that is a problem, it is the tabbed manila folders which don't seem to be available here, nor the labels that go on them. I have been using the MRIN filing system, and I may just stick with that. Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com -Original Message- From: Susan Perrett [mailto:sus...@st.net.au] Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:37 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mary Hill file system products - Australia Jennifer, I think you may find that America has different size paper to us, so you may have to adapt your thinking to Aussie sizes - I did not see the webinar. At 09:52 AM 6/11/2011, you wrote: Is there anyone in Australia using the Mary Hill colour file system? Her shopping list is here: http://www.familyrootsorganizer.com/tips/shopping.htmhttp://www.familyrootsorganizer.com/tips/shopping.htm Having watched the recent webinar, I thought I might give it a go, but can't find locally some of the products she uses. The labels for file folders is one item apparently not available here. Also, I am not sure I will find the manila folders, 1/3 cut tabs. If anyone in Australia has adapted it to use locally available products, I would love to hear about it. Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Find My Past Search
Tony, I have looked at findmypast and see that it’s search engine uses applets. Therefore one cannot construct a customized search in Legacy to use with this site. bgj From: Tony Hibbert [mailto:tonyhibber...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 11:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Find My Past Search Would it be possible to add Find My Past to the list of sites that can be searched from Legacy? If so, How can it be done. Many Thanks Tony Hibbert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Legacy Family Tree Question(s)
Hi Al, There is no one right answer to each of your questions, only a range of choices in which you need to consider which is the right one FOR YOU. 1)Is it better to load all information into one family file: from 1610 down to present day (13 generations), including many, many branches along the way and then take a similar route up the other side of the family to 1744? Or is it better to break it up into random family trees that are, in reality, all connected? Personally, I keep one file for my family and my parther's family. I used to keep my partner's family separate from mine, but it was a hassle switching from one to the other when my focus changed. It also means you have one Master Source list, one Master Location list, etc - and this helps to be consistent with what you call things and how you enter them. And it means that you don't have duplicate people, where one branch of the family intersects unexpectedly with another, or the children of a couple where you'd previously chosen to split off to separate files. When the time comes that you want to report on one branch, or share the information on one part of the family, there are simple ways to extract what you're after. 2)Page 277 of the Legacy User Guide says that “documents and other types of files that are attached in this manner will not be included on report or web sites. They are simply for documentation purposes.†I have no intentions of putting my files on a website but the bulk, by far, of my information is documents of various types along with some photos, most in jpg. The documents are in various formats. I want those documents in the reports and included in e-books or printed books, dvds, etc. Do I understand this guide properly? Yes, you can attach all sorts of documents and files to your data in Legacy. But before you start madly attaching everything you can, do a few and run some reports to see how they're treated. You may like it, or you may decide it's not worth the effort. These days, having done a bit of file attaching, I've come to the conclusion that it's worth attaching a picture of someone, but not really worth attaching an image of a census, for example. The output is too small to read. I understand my own filing system, so can quickly locate files relating to the data in my Legacy file by referring to the source information. Geoff has been demonstrating this sort of thing in his series of Watch Geoff Live webinars recently, which you might like to take a look at. See http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/webinars.asp for details. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
