Re: [LegacyUG] To-Do Locality List

2011-11-23 Thread Cathy-0
Julia,

I keep the Locality field to just geographic locations as this can then be used 
in a sorting of the information when a To Do report is issued.  Also, the 
Location field can differ from the location of a repository which is shown in 
the repository tab.

There are several Legacy newsletters which can be viewed on the Legacy web site 
that help you to understand the To Do Lists. Use their search engine and enter 
the words:  to do list

An example of one such article which can be viewed is found at the following 
link:
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2010/01/effective-use-of-legacys-to-do-list.html

Cathy-0
  - Original Message -
  From: julia _
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:56 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] To-Do Locality List


  I guess I am in spring cleaning mode, hence all of my questions to you!

  I would like to know how people use the To-Do Locality list? Do you keep it 
to geography or do you insert facilities as well (eg Family History Library or 
National Archives building)? Do you use any of this in conjunction with the 
Repository tab?

  I plan on going on some field trips soon and want to take printouts of my 
To-Do lists, so I'm just trying to find the most efficient way to use this 
feature.

  Thanks for any suggestions you can give



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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations

2011-11-23 Thread David C Abernathy
Sherry,
Again thanks for your input.
This small tidbit if information about Locations should help those who are 
using it, and about the intended use.

Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations

That was a general response, not specific to your comments, Dave.

If anyone has a better idea for any part of Legacy, they can always send in a 
suggestion

Legacy has a lot of flexibility in the way features can be used, but things may 
not always *work* quite right if you do something different from the 
programmer's intentions.  For example, unless you follow the 4-element design 
of the locations, the Master Location List won't sort correctly if you sort by 
other than the default (city, county, state,
country) nor will the locations show correctly in the Chronolgy view if you 
select to show country first.


Sincerely,
Sherry
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Legacy Family Tree



On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:45 PM, David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com 
wrote:
 Sherry,
 I did NOT intend to suggest any changes or improvements.  I just think that 
 it may help the general user if a few instructions were provided as to what 
 the intent is of the programmers when certain area of code is done.

 It appears to me, that most users are NOT using the Locations as the 
 programmers intended them to be used.

 Having been using computers since the late 70's and having dealt with many 
 different programs on and off the job, I have found that the programmers 
 thinking is not on the same wave link as the user or vise versa. The major 
 programs which I was first exposed to computer were/are CAD/CAM programs. At 
 that time most programmers did not even know what a engineering drawing was 
 let alone how to prepare one. It took many years for them to understand what 
 the drawing standards were/are, but they did learn. Later on, the users were 
 trying to outguess the programmers and the new engineering staff was no 
 longer being taught the drawing standards as the computer would do them for 
 them.

 Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

2011-11-23 Thread cranberryfrog
Just out of curiosity, WHY would you want to use Facebook as a source?  If
you are talking with Mr. John Doe on Facebook and he gives you some
information that you need then I would source it as an interview with the
person.   (And, I would then try and find the information myself so that I
could source it properly.  Hearsay from someone isn't really a proper
source.)

michele

-Original Message-
From: Bob
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:47 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Facebook

Has any come up with a good method to cite Facebook and other social
media sites.  i am planning on using the Generic Website template but
wonder if there is a better way?
Thank you


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[LegacyUG] Clean up please

2011-11-23 Thread Sherry/Support
I notice that many of you aren't cleaning up your messages when you
reply.  Although it's not as severe of a problem as it would be if we
had a digest version, it really does add a lot of extra weight to a
message when you don't clean up.

Please, remove any messages that aren't pertinent to your reply and
remove all those information lines that the email program adds at the
end.

Remember, we have users who have limited service and either are
allowed only so many bytes per month or pay by the byte and every
little extra only costs them!

Also, please don't hijack an ongoing thread. If you want to change
the subject, start a new message thread someone who's not
interested in the old thread but could help you with your new question
will skip right by it because of the subject line.

Thanks for your consideration.

Sherry
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Legacy Family Tree


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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

2011-11-23 Thread Randy Clark
I'm gullible that way.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Sherry/Support 
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 Why would you believe *anything* to be credible on Facebook???


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



 On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
  If they state their birthdate and you believe it to be credible then why
 not
  source it as Facebook?
 
  On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:39 AM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
 
  Just out of curiosity, WHY would you want to use Facebook as a source?
  If
  you are talking with Mr. John Doe on Facebook and he gives you some
  information that you need then I would source it as an interview with
 the
  person.   (And, I would then try and find the information myself so
 that I
  could source it properly.  Hearsay from someone isn't really a proper
  source.)
 
  michele


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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

2011-11-23 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:03:18 -0800, Sherry/Support
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

Why would you believe *anything* to be credible on Facebook???

You might be friends with a relative that listed their birthdate on
Facebook.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Clean up please

2011-11-23 Thread Cheryl Rothwell
Those of us who read this on mobile devices will thank you even more.


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[LegacyUG] Legacy on different systems

2011-11-23 Thread Erin Bradshaw
Can Legacy family files be shared between two computers with different
Windows operating systems?  For instance XP and Win7 with Dropbox or
just with USB drive?

Erin


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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

2011-11-23 Thread cranberryfrog
Robert said,
“My solution:  If someone on Facebook says an ancestor of mine married so
and so, I email them and get more facts.  I will record in Legacy that Kathy
Smith said whatever.  Then I will actually get verification of those facts
through records. If I find it true, I will list Kathy as a bona fide source
(Not Facebook). If not true, I leave the information Kathy said about my
ancestor in notes. It might prove useful to refer to later, but I won't
change anything.”

I couldn’t have said it better myself, Robert!  PERFECT!

michele



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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

2011-11-23 Thread Ron Ferguson
Robert,

Agreed! I cannot possibly see how Facebook can be anything other than a 
repository. I have a friend in England who gives his address as California! QED.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Robert E. Carneal
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

I am with you!!  Consider these facts:


  1.. Some of my friends on Facebook declared their birth city to be some other 
city besides the one they were actually born in.
  2.. Some of them lied about their birth.
  3.. Some of them lied about their jobs. Reason so they cannot be contacted at 
work.
  4.. I have friends who are parents who engage in a my child is better than 
your child type game. Report card time, they wait for their friends to say 
what their child got on a report card, and make their own child better.

Facebook, while you do have bona fide honest friends, I bet all of us have 
friends who will exaggerate to look as good as the people next door. I keep 
reminding people not to take everything at face value on Facebook.

My solution:  If someone on Facebook says an ancestor of mine married so and 
so, I email them and get more facts.  I will recond in Legacy that Kathy Smith 
said whatever.  Then I will actually get verification of those facts through 
records. If I find it true, I will list Kathy as a bona fide source (Not 
Facebook). If not true, I leave the information Kathy said about my ancestor in 
notes. It might prove useful to refer to later, but I won't change anything.

Thank you.

Robert
Genealogy without documentation is mythology! Always SOURCE your work.


On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

  Why would you believe *anything* to be credible on Facebook???


  Sincerely,
  Sherry
  Technical Support
  Legacy Family Tree



  On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:
   If they state their birthdate and you believe it to be credible then why not
   source it as Facebook?
  
   On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:39 AM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
  
   Just out of curiosity, WHY would you want to use Facebook as a source?  If
   you are talking with Mr. John Doe on Facebook and he gives you some
   information that you need then I would source it as an interview with the
   person.   (And, I would then try and find the information myself so that I
   could source it properly.  Hearsay from someone isn't really a proper
   source.)




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on different systems

2011-11-23 Thread Brian/Support
Legacy files can be shared between any two computers no matter which
version of Windows are installed. Before anyone jumps on me though I
better say the Windows system has to be Windows 95 or later.

I personally would not use Dropbox for the file sharing but many users
here have used it with their main file. I would prefer to backup the
file and multimedia to Dropbox and restore a copy of the file(s) from
the Dropbox copy. When finished on one computer I would backup to
Dropbox again.

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On 23/11/2011 12:44 PM, Erin Bradshaw wrote:
 Can Legacy family files be shared between two computers with different
 Windows operating systems?  For instance XP and Win7 with Dropbox or
 just with USB drive?

 Erin


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on different systems

2011-11-23 Thread Cheryl Rothwell
I have shared between a 64 bit Win 7 and an XP netbook using Sugar Sync. I
use the Magic Briefcase in Sugar Sync. The free version is enough for this
purpose.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Erin Bradshaw eb_pa...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Can Legacy family files be shared between two computers with different
 Windows operating systems?  For instance XP and Win7 with Dropbox or
 just with USB drive?

 Erin




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RE: [LegacyUG] To-Do Locality List

2011-11-23 Thread julia _

Thank you Cathy-0 that is very helpful. I see what you mean by sorting using 
the repository for reports for research trips, that will make the trip much 
more efficient!

Julia

Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:26:38 -0500
From: chorn0...@optimum.net
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] To-Do Locality List
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com










Julia,

I keep the Locality field to just geographic locations as
this can then be used in a sorting of the information when a To Do report is
issued.  Also, the Location field can differ from the location of a
repository which is shown in the repository tab.

There are several Legacy newsletters which can be viewed
on the Legacy web site that help you to understand the To Do Lists. Use
their search engine and enter the words:  to do list

An example of one such article which can be viewed is
found at the following link:
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2010/01/effective-use-of-legacys-to-do-list.html

Cathy-0


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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

2011-11-23 Thread Sherry/Support
I was referring to personal information on individuals, not
commercial Facebook sites!

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



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 On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:03:18 -0800, Sherry/Support
 she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

Why would you believe *anything* to be credible on Facebook???

 I guess this isn't credible...

 http://www.facebook.com/#!/LegacyFamilyTree

 ;-)

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[LegacyUG] Child Status - Died in Infancy

2011-11-23 Thread s megraw

I created a Child Status Died in infancy. Legacy has the option of displaying 
this in the Family View. Is there a way to show it in Descendant reports?

Thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] Child Status - Died in Infancy

2011-11-23 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:13:06 -0500, s megraw smeg...@hotmail.com
wrote:

I created a Child Status Died in infancy. Legacy has the option of 
displaying this in the Family View. Is there a way to show it in Descendant 
reports?

Do you have an actual date of death for this individual? If not, Legacy
allows you to use the word Infant in the death date field. That is how
I would do it. You could also type died in infancy in the death date
field if you liked.

But to answer your question, the descendant book reports have a checkbox
to include Child Status. The descendant chart does not.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

2011-11-23 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 10:41:47 -0800, Sherry/Support
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

I was referring to personal information on individuals, not
commercial Facebook sites!

Without getting into the source vs. repository argument, I think it is
entirely proper to use these facts (actually assertions) if one chooses
to. You can give them the lowest surety if you want. You can explain in
a comment why they are not to be believed. And you can choose not to
publish them. It all depends on one's approach. If you are lazy (like
me) you might not wish to spend time documenting most low surety
assertions. If I were not so lazy I would document all assertions, no
matter how dubious, and explain why some were better than others.

Belief that an assertion is true is not necessarily a prerequisite to
documenting the assertion. For example, my wife is a LEE. Like nearly
everyone in the U.S. whose last name is LEE, there are stories passed
down saying that they were related to Robert E. LEE. Not really
believing this, I documented it anyway. Later I refuted it with DNA
evidence to the contrary.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Child Status - Died in Infancy

2011-11-23 Thread s megraw


Excellent... using the death date field fits my need. Thanks!


 From: kowal...@iglou.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Child Status - Died in Infancy
 Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:29:35 -0500

 On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:13:06 -0500, s megraw smeg...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 I created a Child Status Died in infancy. Legacy has the option of 
 displaying this in the Family View. Is there a way to show it in Descendant 
 reports?

 Do you have an actual date of death for this individual? If not, Legacy
 allows you to use the word Infant in the death date field. That is how
 I would do it. You could also type died in infancy in the death date
 field if you liked.

 But to answer your question, the descendant book reports have a checkbox
 to include Child Status. The descendant chart does not.




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RE: [LegacyUG] Child Status - Died in Infancy

2011-11-23 Thread David C Abernathy
The choice of words here is very misleading, I would just use an About date 
which is more helpful that the phrase that is being used.

From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infancy
in·fan·cy   [in-fuhn-see] Show IPA noun, plural -cies.
1. the state or period of being an infant;  very early childhood, usually the 
period before being able to walk; babyhood.
2. the corresponding period in the existence of anything; very early stage: 
Space science is in its infancy.
3. infants  collectively.
4. Law . the period of life to the age of majority, 21 years at common law but 
now usually 18; minority; nonage.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy on different systems

2011-11-23 Thread Paul Gray
One other thing to consider when using Legacy on two computers is the location 
of multimedia files. The links in your Legacy file must be the same on both 
computers. Generally, this means you should not use 'My Documents', 'My 
Pictures' etc. as they are part of your user profile, and that path is often 
different between computers.

Using the default Legacy folders C:\Legacy\Data.. works fine, as will 
anything up in the 'root folder', often C:\something. I actually use Dropbox, 
but have installed it as C:\Dropbox, rather than the normal default C:\My 
Documents\Dropbox precisely because of the multimedia linking issue.


Paul Gray




Legacy files can be shared between any two computers no matter which version of 
Windows are installed. Before anyone jumps on me though I better say the 
Windows system has to be Windows 95 or later.

I personally would not use Dropbox for the file sharing but many users here 
have used it with their main file. I would prefer to backup the file and 
multimedia to Dropbox and restore a copy of the file(s) from the Dropbox copy. 
When finished on one computer I would backup to Dropbox again.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on different systems

2011-11-23 Thread Erin Bradshaw
Paul,

Thank you for that extra tip. Using the default Legacy folders
C:\Legacy\Data.. works fine, as will anything up in the 'root
folder', often C:\something. I actually use Dropbox, but have installed
it as C:\Dropbox, rather than the normal default C:\My Documents\Dropbox
precisely because of the multimedia linking issue.

Erin


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[LegacyUG] Making note of (inaccurate) information on census

2011-11-23 Thread Kathy Horstman
Hello, all!

My question might chime in with a previous thread on census as event vs.
census as source.

Thanks to a recently-received copy of the original of my great-grandparents'
marriage return, I now know for sure that a certain couple were my
great-grandmother's parents and their elder children were her siblings.
Prior to obtaining the marriage document, I'd found what I thought might be
the right family in the 1880 US Census, but the youngest child was listed as
Jesse and put down as a boy, whereas my great-grandmother's name was Besse
and she was definitely a girl!  The age is right for her, and now that I
know that this was indeed her family (due to some unusual names and
confirmation from my mother, who remembers her great-aunts and great-uncle),
I'm thinking that there was some miscommunication at the 1880 census visit
regarding her age and gender.

I've used this census as an information source on Besse's parents and
siblings, but where in Legacy would I apply it to her?  In her case, should
I switch and call it a census event, explaining the errors in the notes?  Or
should I note the wrong name in the AKA field?  My object is that, should
someone refer to my work later, I've made it known that I am aware of this
census entry, explain that the child in question was indeed herself, and set
straight the error.

Thanks!




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