RE: [LegacyUG] Facebook

2011-11-26 Thread David C Abernathy
Robert, I agree with you. FaceBook, Ancestry, Family Search and etc are NOT the 
source but MAY be a repository. The REAL resource is the document, book, census 
and etc.



Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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From: Robert E. Carneal [mailto:kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 8:13 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook



I hope Millennia doesn't tell me to be quite, but that is my point.  Facebook 
is not telling you that, JANE DOE is! Jane Doe is the source, not Facebook!

I.e., I am against crediting Facebook because of this example:

Laura Smith sees Uncle Joe's wife's Jane's birthday on Facebook.  She copies 
Jane's birthday into Legacy, and sources Facebook. Ten years later, Laura's son 
discover the birthday is wrong by six years.  Ok, who gave his mother that 
information? Facebook? Ok, but WHO on Facebook?  Just Facebook is credited.  
Then the son cannot go back and check. That's awful and so easy to prevent.

Now, had Laura instead said "the information was on Joe's personal page," then 
the son can go to Joe (if he is alive) and get correct information. I said it 
before, and I will say it again. People's Facebook pages *cannot* be trusted. 
People will lie about their locations, lie about the birth dates, heck, even 
some of my friends have lied about their job on Facebook. I have a friend who 
works here in where I live and he put down he lived in New York state! You just 
can't trust Facebook data.

I have gotten Gedcoms where some of the sources simply said "Facebook 
Corporation." No name given to check verify those sources! No email, no home 
address, nothing. I immediately ditched those Gedcoms!! It could have been made 
up.

Now I will shut up about Facebook.

Thank you.

Robert
Genealogy without documentation is mythology! Always SOURCE your work.



On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Bob  wrote:

Sorry to disagree but I think Facebook and its companion site We are
Related can be excellent sources.  If Jane Doe tells me about her
immediate family, it can be considered accurate especially since there
are no records yet on these members - remember privacy laws.  I do like
the interview suggestion,though.  Thanks.

On 11/23/2011 11:39 AM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, WHY would you want to use Facebook as a source?  If
> you are talking with Mr. John Doe on Facebook and he gives you some
> information that you need then I would source it as an interview with the
> person.   (And, I would then try and find the information myself so that I
> could source it properly.  Hearsay from someone isn't really a proper
> source.)




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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

2011-11-26 Thread Robert E. Carneal
*I hope Millennia doesn't tell me to be quite, but that is my point.
Facebook is not telling you that, JANE DOE is! Jane Doe is the source, not
Facebook!

I.e., I am against crediting Facebook because of this example:

Laura Smith sees Uncle Joe's wife's Jane's birthday on Facebook.  She
copies Jane's birthday into Legacy, and sources Facebook. Ten years later,
Laura's son discover the birthday is wrong by six years.  Ok, who gave his
mother that information? Facebook? Ok, but WHO on Facebook?  Just Facebook
is credited.  Then the son cannot go back and check. That's awful and so
easy to prevent.

Now, had Laura instead said "the information was on Joe's personal page,"
then the son can go to Joe (if he is alive) and get correct information. I
said it before, and I will say it again. People's Facebook pages *cannot*
be trusted. People will lie about their locations, lie about the birth
dates, heck, even some of my friends have lied about their job on Facebook.
I have a friend who works here in where I live and he put down he lived in
New York state! You just can't trust Facebook data.

I have gotten Gedcoms where some of the sources simply said "Facebook
Corporation." No name given to check verify those sources! No email, no
home address, nothing. I immediately ditched those Gedcoms!! It could have
been made up.

Now I will shut up about Facebook.

**Thank you.

**Robert*
*Genealogy without documentation is mythology! Always SOURCE your work.*


On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Bob  wrote:

> Sorry to disagree but I think Facebook and its companion site We are
> Related can be excellent sources.  If Jane Doe tells me about her
> immediate family, it can be considered accurate especially since there
> are no records yet on these members - remember privacy laws.  I do like
> the interview suggestion,though.  Thanks.
>
> On 11/23/2011 11:39 AM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
> > Just out of curiosity, WHY would you want to use Facebook as a source?
>  If
> > you are talking with Mr. John Doe on Facebook and he gives you some
> > information that you need then I would source it as an interview with the
> > person.   (And, I would then try and find the information myself so that
> I
> > could source it properly.  Hearsay from someone isn't really a proper
> > source.)
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Errors 48 & 91

2011-11-26 Thread Gene Young
On 11/25/2011 8:26 PM, Gene Wheeler wrote:
> Getting error 48 when I try to do a Search.  Program then
> crashes.  Please advise.  Using v.7.5.0.112.  Check/Repair
> returns:  "Error rebuilding Indexes.  Error 91: Object variable or
> With block variable not set
> Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?"
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gene
> ===

 From the online Solutions by Error Number at
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp

• Error 48: File not found: wininet.dll

Many Legacy users using the extremely F-Secure or Charter High Speed
Internet Security programs have reported this error.

You'll need to set permissions for Legacy under Internet Shield >
Firewall and Internet Shield > Application Control.

In Application Control, add Legacy and allow access and server.

If this does not work, please consider uninstalling these programs and
getting a different anti-virus program.


Error 91 (not related to backup) is also listed but too long to copy here.

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Gene Young
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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

2011-11-26 Thread Bob
Sorry to disagree but I think Facebook and its companion site We are
Related can be excellent sources.  If Jane Doe tells me about her
immediate family, it can be considered accurate especially since there
are no records yet on these members - remember privacy laws.  I do like
the interview suggestion,though.  Thanks.

On 11/23/2011 11:39 AM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, WHY would you want to use Facebook as a source?  If
> you are talking with Mr. John Doe on Facebook and he gives you some
> information that you need then I would source it as an interview with the
> person.   (And, I would then try and find the information myself so that I
> could source it properly.  Hearsay from someone isn't really a proper
> source.)
>
> michele
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:47 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Facebook
>
> Has any come up with a good method to cite Facebook and other social
> media sites.  i am planning on using the Generic Website template but
> wonder if there is a better way?
> Thank you
>
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