Re: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart

2012-09-09 Thread Les Williamson 
Hi Folks,

I received an email mailshot from Prodgeny before this list appeared. I have
version 3 and was offered a 40% discount to upgrade, which I "took
advantage" of because I have been keen to be able to use the matrix style
chart (Prodgeny call it Trellis).
I have a large main database and when using it to view the Trellis chart it
is like watching paint dry as it gathers the names. I tried it using a
smaller family file (about 200 names) and it loaded very quickly.
There is a company called GeneaQuilts, who might just be the originator of
the system and offer a free download and show very good examples of large
and small files. I have not downloaded their program yet, however I am
tempted.
I had emailed Legacy a while ago about the possibility of them adding it to
their charting program, and they informed me that it was something they were
considering.

Les Williamson
Bonnie Scotland


-Original Message-
From: Denise Moss-Fritch
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 11:54 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart

Apparently someone from Prodgeny Software is reading this list. A couple of
hours after my earlier email I received the information that this new chart
was in version 4 of the Charting Companion.

Best,

Denise L. Moss-Fritch



-Original Message-
From: Denise Moss-Fritch [mailto:den...@newmoonalpacas.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 11:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart

Hi Tim,

Yes, the Trellis cart is new, however it is a part of Charting Companion
according to the information at the Prodgeny Software web site.
Unfortunately the site does not state whether this chart is an addition to
version 3, or is part of a new version 4 release. I am hoping for a bit more
information from the company.

Best,

Denise L. Moss-Fritch


-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:07 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart

Prodgeny Software, the creator of a few Legacy addons (Legacy Charting
Companion, Map My Family Tree, Genlines), has created a new 'all in one'
chart.

>From their webpage:

" The Trellis chart is a new way to tell the story of your family.
Unlike traditional box charts, the Trellis can show all the people in your
tree, even those who are not in the direct bloodline. Your ancestors and
descendants are listed by row within their generation. Members of a family
are grouped by columns."

http://progenygenealogy.com/products/family-tree-charts/trellis.aspx

Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research




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RE: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer

2012-09-09 Thread Lee Bruch 
On your printer choice, select one of your printers as the default printer.
It's not a Legacy problem. It's a problem with how your computer is set up.
Many programs render reports (even on the screen), etc. based on what works 
with your default printer.
At lease, that's how it works in the PC world ... don't know about the Linux 
world

-Original Message-
From: Karen and Jim [mailto:sindbe...@att.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 7:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer

On 09/09/2012 08:49 PM, Gene Young wrote:
> On 9/9/2012 8:21 PM, Karen and Jim wrote:
>
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>> Sometimes, rarely, but sometimes
>> when I start up Legacy I get a msg
>> that I have no printer configured.
>> I say "so what?" and go on with
>> my business.  Later when I want
>> to see a report on screen, Legacy
>> won't let me.  Says "no printer".
>> Again I say to myself, "so what"
>> I didn't request a printout, I just
>> wanted to see it on screen.
>> Legacy won't let me!!
>>
>> To correct (temporily) fix this issue I reboot Legacy and usually get
>> no "no printer" msg and if I want I can see reports on screen.
>>
>> What is going on?  Why does Legacy
>> care if I have a printer installed or not.  Doesn't seem to be any of
>> Legacy's business, unless I try to print.
>>
>> Is this Micro$oft stickin its nose in where it doesn't belong??
>>
>>
> No, the program uses the default printers settings to format the report.
>
> If you are having the message that you have no printer installed, you
> should check that there is a DEFAULT printer set.  This is not a
> Legacy problem.
>
>
Gene,

Check what?

This is a Legacy problem,
since it only happens with Legacy.
That pc is a Legacy only pc.
I don't use that pc for anything else.

This email is on my Linux box.
And when I get around to it, I'll
install XP in Virtual Box and run
Legacy inside it.

How I wish Linux had a good
genealogy program.  Gramps
isn't bad, except when it crashes.
It is the only Linux program I've
ever had crash.
JimS








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Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer

2012-09-09 Thread Karen and Jim 
On 09/09/2012 08:49 PM, Gene Young wrote:
> On 9/9/2012 8:21 PM, Karen and Jim wrote:
>
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>> Sometimes, rarely, but sometimes
>> when I start up Legacy I get a msg
>> that I have no printer configured.
>> I say "so what?" and go on with
>> my business.  Later when I want
>> to see a report on screen, Legacy
>> won't let me.  Says "no printer".
>> Again I say to myself, "so what"
>> I didn't request a printout, I just
>> wanted to see it on screen.
>> Legacy won't let me!!
>>
>> To correct (temporily) fix this issue
>> I reboot Legacy and usually get
>> no "no printer" msg and if I want
>> I can see reports on screen.
>>
>> What is going on?  Why does Legacy
>> care if I have a printer installed or
>> not.  Doesn't seem to be any of
>> Legacy's business, unless I try
>> to print.
>>
>> Is this Micro$oft stickin its nose in
>> where it doesn't belong??
>>
>>
> No, the program uses the default printers settings to format the report.
>
> If you are having the message that you have no printer installed, you
> should check that there is a DEFAULT printer set.  This is not a Legacy
> problem.
>
>
Gene,

Check what?

This is a Legacy problem,
since it only happens with Legacy.
That pc is a Legacy only pc.
I don't use that pc for anything else.

This email is on my Linux box.
And when I get around to it, I'll
install XP in Virtual Box and run
Legacy inside it.

How I wish Linux had a good
genealogy program.  Gramps
isn't bad, except when it crashes.
It is the only Linux program I've
ever had crash.
JimS



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Re: [LegacyUG] Name List Contains 8311 Individuals - last # is 8310

2012-09-09 Thread SHIRLEY ANDERSON 
The same thing happened to me.  Apparently Legacy deliberately puts it there.
There is some technical reason for it.

>
I found a blank record that has no
number.  It is at the beginning,
before RIN #1.
Not a normal looking zero,
not like the other zeros.
Looks like an italicized O or 0
Very strange.<

 ~~
Shirley York Anderson   yor...@prodigy.net
~~
My web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~syafam/
http://myfamilybrickwalls.blogspot.com/





From: Karen and Jim 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, September 9, 2012 7:32:31 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Name List Contains 8311 Individuals - last # is 8310

Hi Listers,

Curious.
"Name List Contains 8311 Individuals"
but my latest entry is #8310.
That doesn't computer for me.
Does it for you?

I found a blank record that has no
number.  It is at the beginning,
before RIN #1.
Not a normal looking zero,
not like the other zeros.
Looks like an italicized O or 0
Very strange.

JimS
using version 5 delux.
...


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Re: [LegacyUG] Show me your printer

2012-09-09 Thread Gene Young 
On 9/9/2012 8:21 PM, Karen and Jim wrote:
> Hi Listers,
>
> Sometimes, rarely, but sometimes
> when I start up Legacy I get a msg
> that I have no printer configured.
> I say "so what?" and go on with
> my business.  Later when I want
> to see a report on screen, Legacy
> won't let me.  Says "no printer".
> Again I say to myself, "so what"
> I didn't request a printout, I just
> wanted to see it on screen.
> Legacy won't let me!!
>
> To correct (temporily) fix this issue
> I reboot Legacy and usually get
> no "no printer" msg and if I want
> I can see reports on screen.
>
> What is going on?  Why does Legacy
> care if I have a printer installed or
> not.  Doesn't seem to be any of
> Legacy's business, unless I try
> to print.
>
> Is this Micro$oft stickin its nose in
> where it doesn't belong??
>
No, the program uses the default printers settings to format the report.

If you are having the message that you have no printer installed, you
should check that there is a DEFAULT printer set.  This is not a Legacy
problem.



--

Gene Young
Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada
With Legacy Family Tree
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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with reload

2012-09-09 Thread Gene Young 
On 9/9/2012 8:16 PM, Gene Young wrote:
> I recently had to do a reload of my OS, (WIN 7 Home Premium)  I did a
> full re-install of Legacy, deluxe version.  I now, find that the repeat
> keys (F9, F11 and F12) no longer work.  I have already run check repair.
>
> Any ideas?


Problem solved.  The OS reload reset my bios, reversing the default
behavior of my function keys.  All works as expected now.

--

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[LegacyUG] Name List Contains 8311 Individuals - last # is 8310

2012-09-09 Thread Karen and Jim 
Hi Listers,

Curious.
"Name List Contains 8311 Individuals"
but my latest entry is #8310.
That doesn't computer for me.
Does it for you?

I found a blank record that has no
number.  It is at the beginning,
before RIN #1.
Not a normal looking zero,
not like the other zeros.
Looks like an italicized O or 0
Very strange.

JimS
using version 5 delux.
...



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[LegacyUG] Show me your printer

2012-09-09 Thread Karen and Jim 
Hi Listers,

Sometimes, rarely, but sometimes
when I start up Legacy I get a msg
that I have no printer configured.
I say "so what?" and go on with
my business.  Later when I want
to see a report on screen, Legacy
won't let me.  Says "no printer".
Again I say to myself, "so what"
I didn't request a printout, I just
wanted to see it on screen.
Legacy won't let me!!

To correct (temporily) fix this issue
I reboot Legacy and usually get
no "no printer" msg and if I want
I can see reports on screen.

What is going on?  Why does Legacy
care if I have a printer installed or
not.  Doesn't seem to be any of
Legacy's business, unless I try
to print.

Is this Micro$oft stickin its nose in
where it doesn't belong??

Using deluxe version 5.0.0.261

JimS



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[LegacyUG] Problem with reload

2012-09-09 Thread Gene Young 
I recently had to do a reload of my OS, (WIN 7 Home Premium)  I did a
full re-install of Legacy, deluxe version.  I now, find that the repeat
keys (F9, F11 and F12) no longer work.  I have already run check repair.

Any ideas?
--

Gene Young
Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada
With Legacy Family Tree
http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm



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RE: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart

2012-09-09 Thread Denise Moss-Fritch 
Apparently someone from Prodgeny Software is reading this list. A couple of 
hours after my earlier email I received the information that this new chart was 
in version 4 of the Charting Companion.

Best,

Denise L. Moss-Fritch



-Original Message-
From: Denise Moss-Fritch [mailto:den...@newmoonalpacas.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 11:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart

Hi Tim,

Yes, the Trellis cart is new, however it is a part of Charting Companion 
according to the information at the Prodgeny Software web site. Unfortunately 
the site does not state whether this chart is an addition to version 3, or is 
part of a new version 4 release. I am hoping for a bit more information from 
the company.

Best,

Denise L. Moss-Fritch


-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:07 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart

Prodgeny Software, the creator of a few Legacy addons (Legacy Charting 
Companion, Map My Family Tree, Genlines), has created a new 'all in one'
chart.

 From their webpage:

" The Trellis chart is a new way to tell the story of your family.
Unlike traditional box charts, the Trellis can show all the people in your 
tree, even those who are not in the direct bloodline. Your ancestors and 
descendants are listed by row within their generation. Members of a family are 
grouped by columns."

http://progenygenealogy.com/products/family-tree-charts/trellis.aspx

Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research




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Re: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart

2012-09-09 Thread Laura Johnson 
It was not in my version 3 but is in Version 4.  I just downloaded the
new upgrade and tried it.  With a little over 58000+ names in my file,
the chart is projected to be 178 pages wide by 798 pages long for the
all inclusive.  I tried to just do a Trellis for one person (my
great-grandfather) in my family but it seems to include all of the
relatives of that one person.  I told it to only do 4 generations.
Definitely not a chart print for me.  More than a couple of generations
and it is hard to read.

On 9/9/2012 1:56 PM, Denise Moss-Fritch wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> Yes, the Trellis cart is new, however it is a part of Charting Companion 
> according to the information at the Prodgeny Software web site. Unfortunately 
> the site does not state whether this chart is an addition to version 3, or is 
> part of a new version 4 release. I am hoping for a bit more information from 
> the company.
>
> Best,
>
> Denise L. Moss-Fritch
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:07 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart
>
> Prodgeny Software, the creator of a few Legacy addons (Legacy Charting 
> Companion, Map My Family Tree, Genlines), has created a new 'all in one'
> chart.
>
>   From their webpage:
>
> " The Trellis chart is a new way to tell the story of your family.
> Unlike traditional box charts, the Trellis can show all the people in your 
> tree, even those who are not in the direct bloodline. Your ancestors and 
> descendants are listed by row within their generation. Members of a family 
> are grouped by columns."
>
> http://progenygenealogy.com/products/family-tree-charts/trellis.aspx
>
> Tim Rosenlof
> Utah, USA
> Swedish Research
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart

2012-09-09 Thread Denise Moss-Fritch 
Hi Tim,

Yes, the Trellis cart is new, however it is a part of Charting Companion 
according to the information at the Prodgeny Software web site. Unfortunately 
the site does not state whether this chart is an addition to version 3, or is 
part of a new version 4 release. I am hoping for a bit more information from 
the company.

Best,

Denise L. Moss-Fritch


-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:07 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Trellis Chart

Prodgeny Software, the creator of a few Legacy addons (Legacy Charting 
Companion, Map My Family Tree, Genlines), has created a new 'all in one'
chart.

 From their webpage:

" The Trellis chart is a new way to tell the story of your family.
Unlike traditional box charts, the Trellis can show all the people in your 
tree, even those who are not in the direct bloodline. Your ancestors and 
descendants are listed by row within their generation. Members of a family are 
grouped by columns."

http://progenygenealogy.com/products/family-tree-charts/trellis.aspx

Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research




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Re: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

2012-09-09 Thread Jenny M Benson 
On 09/09/2012 16:43, Michele Lewis wrote:
> It is on the master list cleanup screen, not the file maintenance.
> My mistake,  When you do a master list cleanup and you hit proceed, a
> popup box comes up that says "Would you like to resent all Event
> Sentences to their default wording?" and you have to answer yes or
> no.  One mistake her could pretty much ruin your day:)

Oh gosh, yes!  I have *all* my Even Sentences re-written to my
specification and I would hate to have to re-do them all over again.
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Re: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

2012-09-09 Thread Ron Ferguson 
-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 4:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

Jenny,
It is on the master list cleanup screen, not the file maintenance.  My
mistake,  When you do a master list cleanup and you hit proceed, a popup box
comes up that says "Would you like to resent all Event Sentences to their
default wording?" and you have to answer yes or no.  One mistake her could
pretty much ruin your day :)

Michele


Michele,

If, and only if, you do not have an up to date backup

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[LegacyUG] Trellis Chart

2012-09-09 Thread Tim Rosenlof 
Prodgeny Software, the creator of a few Legacy addons (Legacy Charting
Companion, Map My Family Tree, Genlines), has created a new 'all in one'
chart.

 From their webpage:

" The Trellis chart is a new way to tell the story of your family.
Unlike traditional box charts, the Trellis can show all the people in
your tree, even those who are not in the direct bloodline. Your
ancestors and descendants are listed by row within their generation.
Members of a family are grouped by columns."

http://progenygenealogy.com/products/family-tree-charts/trellis.aspx

Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] How to lump census records

2012-09-09 Thread JLB 
I don't know if this is what's called lumping or splitting.

I do, as examples:

Illinois, Mercer, Millerburg: 1870 U.S. Federal Census
or
England, Surrey, Clapham, St. James Parish: 1881 England Census

The transcription goes into 'actual Source text' under Source Detail, as
well as into the Event notes for each person in the census.

If I'm interested in looking at the actual file, I type the person's
name into Search on Windows7, and it appears in a nano-second. Keywords
(in this case, people's names) have been previously embedded in all
documents so the search results bring up a filtered list regardless of
where the files are on my computer.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 9/9/2012 6:56 AM, Alan Pereira wrote:
> I am a Lumper.  I use one source for a Census year and Country e.g Census 
> 1841 UK, Census 1900 USA
> Although I suspect that were I based in the USA I would use "Census Year 
> State County"
> I do not store census images within Legacy, instead I store the Full Census 
> transcript and a note identifying where I have stored the original image e.g
>
> Census 1871 UK: RG10/232/26/46: Registration District&  Civil Parish of 
> Pancras.  Sub-district of Camden Town.  Parliamentary Borough of Marylebone.  
> Ecclesiastical Parish of St.Stephens.  Schedule 348.
> 53 College Street West
> HannahPereise HeadUnm 24  Laundress   Middx., 
> St.Pancras
> Edwarddo  Son do1 
> do,do
> Schedule 349.
> Thomas PereiseHeadMar 31  Music Smith Middx., 
> St.Pancras
> Sarah do  WifeMar 24  Laundress   do,do
> Sarah do  DaurUnm 11  do,do
> William   do  Son do8 Scholar do,do
> John  do  do  do6 do,do
> Thomasdo  do  do5 do,do
> Georgedo  do  do2 do,do
> see genealogy\Census1871\PereiraThomas18600101HullSarah.jpg
>
> If the Image is for a Family, then the Transcript is in the Parent's marriage 
> notes and all sourced events (Occupation, Residence) are pointed to that 
> location [in this example Thomas would have an Occupation event as a "Music 
> Smith" located in 53 College Street West... Source Census 1871 UK detail=see 
> marriage notes
> The children would have a residence of 53 College Street West using the same 
> source but detail=see marriage notes of parents.
> Should an individual not be with their family then the census transcript 
> would be in their Genereal Notes using the same method.
> The Genealogy folder is a sub folder of my filing system and can be on 
> whatever drive I choose to use (Not the System Drive and by inference, not 
> the Legacy folders)
>
> I try and avoid images except where I want to show pictures of individuals in 
> Charts. [In case I want to change my filing system]
> I only use Basic sources so that I am not troubled by importing and exporting 
> my file via GEDCOM.
> I hide General and Marriage notes when publishing tree information on the web 
> as well as source repositories.
>
> Alan Pereira
>

>
>
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

2012-09-09 Thread Michele Lewis 
Jenny,
It is on the master list cleanup screen, not the file maintenance.  My mistake, 
 When you do a master list cleanup and you hit proceed, a popup box comes up 
that says "Would you like to resent all Event Sentences to their default 
wording?" and you have to answer yes or no.  One mistake her could pretty much 
ruin your day :)

Michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

2012-09-09 Thread Jenny M Benson 
On 09/09/2012 16:04, Michele Lewis wrote:
> I read about how y'all do this (changing the way things are worded)
> but I have never even  tried it.  It seems  too advanced to me:)

It really is quite simple.  You could try it a few times on the Sample
file or a copy of your Family file.

   I
> would be afraid that  I would accidentally change it back to the
> default wording when I do a file maintenance (There is a checkbox for
> this and it defaults to checked).

Are you sure about that?  There is a checkbox for sorting Events by date
but I don't remember seeing one for returning Event Sentences to
default.  (I don't do File Maintenance very often, though!)


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RE: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

2012-09-09 Thread Michele Lewis 
Jenny,
I read about how y'all do this (changing the way things are worded) but I have 
never even  tried it.  It seems  too advanced to me :)  I  would be afraid that 
 I would accidentally change it back to the default wording when I do a file 
maintenance (There is a checkbox for this and it defaults to checked).I have 
used the override before though and just typed in what I wanted it to say.

Michele


-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 10:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

On 09/09/2012 14:18, Michele Lewis wrote:
> Event/Fact: Residence
> Description:  123 Main Street
> Date:  06  Apr 1922
> Place:  Purvis, Lamar, Mississippi, United  States
>
> The output will be:
>
> He resided at 123 Main Street on 06 Apr 1922 in Purvis, Lamar,
> Mississippi, United States

You could edit your Event Sentence so that instead of reading something like 
[HeShe] resided at [Desc] on [Date] in [Place] it reads [HeShe] resided at 
[Desc],[Place] on [Date] which would give a neater output, I think.

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Re: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

2012-09-09 Thread Jenny M Benson 
On 09/09/2012 14:18, Michele Lewis wrote:
> Event/Fact: Residence
> Description:  123 Main Street
> Date:  06  Apr 1922
> Place:  Purvis, Lamar, Mississippi, United  States
>
> The output will be:
>
> He resided at 123 Main Street on 06 Apr 1922 in Purvis, Lamar, Mississippi, 
> United States

You could edit your Event Sentence so that instead of reading something
like [HeShe] resided at [Desc] on [Date] in [Place] it reads [HeShe]
resided at [Desc],[Place] on [Date] which would give a neater output, I
think.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] How to lump census records

2012-09-09 Thread Jenny M Benson 
On 09/09/2012 14:56, Alan Pereira wrote:
> I do not store census images within Legacy, instead I store the Full
> Census transcript and a note identifying where I have stored the
> original image

Just for the sake of avoiding confusion I will point out that no images
are ever "stored within Legacy."  Legacy only holds the links to images
that are stored on your computer or other storage device.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Installer initiated

2012-09-09 Thread Ron Ferguson 
Chuck,

Check you file associations, does .fdb point to Clooze? If so change it.
Ron Ferguson
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GOONS #5307


"Chuck Schober"  wrote:

>Whenever I launch Legacy, I get several  messages trying to launch another
>program (Clooz 2.1).  Selecting the cancel button clears the installer
>window, but it is very annoying..  Any suggestions on how to eliminate this
>problem?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>--
>Chuck


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RE: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

2012-09-09 Thread Ron Ferguson 
Thank you, Michelle, same as I do except that I use the description for, say, 
"census" and put the address in the Location Field.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


"Michele Lewis"  wrote:

>In the location field I use the conventional 4 places (or 3 or 5 or whatever 
>if it happens to be a different country than the US).  I do not put the names 
>of cemeteries in here nor the street addresses.
>
>I put the street address in as a residence event:
>
>Event/Fact: Residence
>Description:  123 Main Street
>Date:  06  Apr 1922
>Place:  Purvis, Lamar, Mississippi, United  States
>
>The output will be:
>
>He resided at 123 Main Street on 06 Apr 1922 in Purvis, Lamar, Mississippi, 
>United States
>
>
>
>Michele
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:09 AM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC
>
>Sorry, Michelle, but can you please explain what you mean? At  the moment I 
>don't get it.
>Ron Ferguson
>http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>GOONS #5307
>
>
>"Michele Lewis"  wrote:
>
>>I put street addresses  as residence events.  I do not put them in the 
>>location field.
>>
>>Michele
>>

>

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RE: [LegacyUG] How to lump census records

2012-09-09 Thread Alan Pereira 
I am a Lumper.  I use one source for a Census year and Country e.g Census 1841 
UK, Census 1900 USA
Although I suspect that were I based in the USA I would use "Census Year State 
County"
I do not store census images within Legacy, instead I store the Full Census 
transcript and a note identifying where I have stored the original image e.g

Census 1871 UK: RG10/232/26/46: Registration District & Civil Parish of 
Pancras.  Sub-district of Camden Town.  Parliamentary Borough of Marylebone.  
Ecclesiastical Parish of St.Stephens.  Schedule 348.
53 College Street West
Hannah  Pereise HeadUnm 24  Laundress   Middx., 
St.Pancras
Edward  do  Son do1 do,do
Schedule 349.
Thomas Pereise  HeadMar 31  Music Smith Middx., 
St.Pancras
Sarah   do  WifeMar 24  Laundress   do,do
Sarah   do  DaurUnm 11  do,do
William do  Son do8 Scholar do,do
Johndo  do  do6 do,do
Thomas  do  do  do5 do,do
George  do  do  do2 do,do
see genealogy\Census1871\PereiraThomas18600101HullSarah.jpg

If the Image is for a Family, then the Transcript is in the Parent's marriage 
notes and all sourced events (Occupation, Residence) are pointed to that 
location [in this example Thomas would have an Occupation event as a "Music 
Smith" located in 53 College Street West... Source Census 1871 UK detail=see 
marriage notes
The children would have a residence of 53 College Street West using the same 
source but detail=see marriage notes of parents.
Should an individual not be with their family then the census transcript would 
be in their Genereal Notes using the same method.
The Genealogy folder is a sub folder of my filing system and can be on whatever 
drive I choose to use (Not the System Drive and by inference, not the Legacy 
folders)

I try and avoid images except where I want to show pictures of individuals in 
Charts. [In case I want to change my filing system]
I only use Basic sources so that I am not troubled by importing and exporting 
my file via GEDCOM.
I hide General and Marriage notes when publishing tree information on the web 
as well as source repositories.

Alan Pereira

-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
Sent: 08 September 2012 18:39
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to lump census records

On 9/8/2012 10:27 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> Just to take the 1851 England Census alone I have 428 images, so
> that's probably about 400 households.  Multiply that up through all
> the Censuses from 1841 to 1911, adding in Wales, Scotland, Channel
> Islands and Isle of Man, not to mention USA, and I dread to think how
> many individual Sources that would make!

Welp...

I am a huge splitter. I have over 200 census records just for the 1880 US 
Census. How would a person go to the original document without all the 
information to do so ?

[Items, not necessarily in order]

1880 U.S. Census
Spring, Sanpete County, Utah
[ED] 123, page 456
Dwelling 789, Family 987
National Archives microfilm L6, roll 123

[My Citation here]

That way someone will be able to go right to the source. You can give credit to 
the companies that provide the information. Example:
Ancestry.com, FindMyPast.com, TimsGarage.com 

Each family (dwelling) has their own. Am I nuts, others say yes.

Tim Rosenlof





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[LegacyUG] Installer initiated

2012-09-09 Thread Chuck Schober 
Whenever I launch Legacy, I get several  messages trying to launch another
program (Clooz 2.1).  Selecting the cancel button clears the installer
window, but it is very annoying..  Any suggestions on how to eliminate this
problem?

Thanks in advance

--
Chuck



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RE: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

2012-09-09 Thread Michele Lewis 
In the location field I use the conventional 4 places (or 3 or 5 or whatever if 
it happens to be a different country than the US).  I do not put the names of 
cemeteries in here nor the street addresses.

I put the street address in as a residence event:

Event/Fact: Residence
Description:  123 Main Street
Date:  06  Apr 1922
Place:  Purvis, Lamar, Mississippi, United  States

The output will be:

He resided at 123 Main Street on 06 Apr 1922 in Purvis, Lamar, Mississippi, 
United States



Michele




-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:09 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

Sorry, Michelle, but can you please explain what you mean? At  the moment I 
don't get it.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


"Michele Lewis"  wrote:

>I put street addresses  as residence events.  I do not put them in the 
>location field.
>
>Michele
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Elizabeth Cunningham [mailto:drybo...@netreach.net]
>Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:13 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC
>
>Not to mention street addresses. Almost all my relatives lived in 
>Philadelphia, and street addresses are essential.
>I have one grandfather who moved his family at least 15 times in less than 20 
>years.  Without street addresses I am lost.
>
> Elizabeth C
>
>John S. Adams wrote:
>> Many locations in the U.S. don't fit into the 4 field convention,
>> including:
>>
>> New York City, Kings County (Borough of Brooklyn), New York, USA New
>> York City, New York County (Borough of Manhattan), New York, USA New
>> York City, Queens County (Borough of Queens), New York, USA New York
>> City, Bronx County (Borough of The Bronx), New York, USA New York
>> City, Richmond County (Borough of Staten Island), New York, USA
>>
>> The City and County of San Francisco, California, USA
>>
>> Saint Louis, Missouri, USA (independent city, no county)
>>
>> and numerous independent cities in Virginia
>>
>> John S. Adams
>> Ventura, CA
>>
>>
>> 

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RE: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

2012-09-09 Thread Ron Ferguson 
Sorry, Michelle, but can you please explain what you mean? At  the moment I 
don't get it.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


"Michele Lewis"  wrote:

>I put street addresses  as residence events.  I do not put them in the 
>location field.
>
>Michele
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Elizabeth Cunningham [mailto:drybo...@netreach.net]
>Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:13 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC
>
>Not to mention street addresses. Almost all my relatives lived in 
>Philadelphia, and street addresses are essential.
>I have one grandfather who moved his family at least 15 times in less than 20 
>years.  Without street addresses I am lost.
>
> Elizabeth C
>
>John S. Adams wrote:
>> Many locations in the U.S. don't fit into the 4 field convention,
>> including:
>>
>> New York City, Kings County (Borough of Brooklyn), New York, USA New
>> York City, New York County (Borough of Manhattan), New York, USA New
>> York City, Queens County (Borough of Queens), New York, USA New York
>> City, Bronx County (Borough of The Bronx), New York, USA New York
>> City, Richmond County (Borough of Staten Island), New York, USA
>>
>> The City and County of San Francisco, California, USA
>>
>> Saint Louis, Missouri, USA (independent city, no county)
>>
>> and numerous independent cities in Virginia
>>
>> John S. Adams
>> Ventura, CA
>>
>>
>> 

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RE: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

2012-09-09 Thread Michele Lewis 
I put street addresses  as residence events.  I do not put them in the location 
field.

Michele


-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Cunningham [mailto:drybo...@netreach.net]
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

Not to mention street addresses. Almost all my relatives lived in Philadelphia, 
and street addresses are essential.
I have one grandfather who moved his family at least 15 times in less than 20 
years.  Without street addresses I am lost.

 Elizabeth C

John S. Adams wrote:
> Many locations in the U.S. don't fit into the 4 field convention,
> including:
>
> New York City, Kings County (Borough of Brooklyn), New York, USA New
> York City, New York County (Borough of Manhattan), New York, USA New
> York City, Queens County (Borough of Queens), New York, USA New York
> City, Bronx County (Borough of The Bronx), New York, USA New York
> City, Richmond County (Borough of Staten Island), New York, USA
>
> The City and County of San Francisco, California, USA
>
> Saint Louis, Missouri, USA (independent city, no county)
>
> and numerous independent cities in Virginia
>
> John S. Adams
> Ventura, CA
>
>
> --
> --
> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 00:12:59 -0400
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC
> From: pph...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>
> Great idea, Elizabeth, thank you!!
>
> JLB,
>
> How do you handle it when you've got something like London, which I
> think is in more than one county?
> I've got some London, Middlesex County locations.  I think part of
> Middlesex is outside of London.
> Also, as in the US, I imagine some Middlesex County locations have a
> London address even though they're outside the corporate limits of London.
>
> Pat
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Eliz Hanebury  > wrote:
>
> Richmond (Independent city) Virginia  
>
>
>
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] How to lump census records

2012-09-09 Thread Marli Yoder 
I do the same-but...
Missouri, St. Louis 1870 Federal Census
that way all of my census info shows by state, county, and year in the source
list. I use Source Writer
Marli Yoder
A & M Farms
Eureka & Sturgeon Missouri





From: Judith 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sat, September 8, 2012 9:56:47 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to lump census records


Lumpers, how do you lump your census records?

I use one census source for each year and since the U.S. Census information
resides at the National Archives in Washington D.C., it doesn’t really matter
where you found it, the repository I use is “on-line data base”.
 
Example: 
Master List name:  1860 Microfilm of U.S. Federal Census
Publication Facts:  Original data: 1860 U.S. census, population schedule. NARA
microfilm publication M653, 1,438 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and
Records Administration, n.d.
 
J


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