[LegacyUG] Viewing images

[Tony Rolfe]

I've just noticed that if you add a jpeg to a source detail via the
"file" option, you don't get the little thumbnail of the image, but it
does open with your default image viewer.

If you add a jpeg through the "Picture" option, you do get the
thumbnail, but it opens via Legacy's internal viewer.

Is there any way to get it to display the thumbnail AND open with your
default viewer?

Thanks

Tony



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RE: [LegacyUG] descendant report

[Jan Roberts]

Original Poster (of the original message).

Cheers
Jan

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2012 11:34
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] descendant report

  wrote, "With a little work, the OP could accomplish this."

What is "OP," please?

Pat







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Re: [LegacyUG] descendant report

[Gene Young]

On 9/18/2012 9:34 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
>   wrote, "With a little work, the OP could accomplish 
> this."
>
> What is "OP," please?
>
> Pat
Original Poster, the person who started the thread.


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Re: [LegacyUG] descendant report

[Pat Hickin]

  wrote, "With a little work, the OP could accomplish this."

What is "OP," please?

Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Tim Rosenlof]

On 9/18/2012 4:11 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
> NO MORE ON THIS THREAD.

OK. Done

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RE: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Bernhard Scholz]

Tim,

that's the other side of living in a country where everthing is possible.

We have a law saying the those not securing their WLAN are liable for the
misuse.

And about those driving around. For the moment they were stoped here.
They have to do some homework removing information people don't want published.
I bet. The moment they finish the data is outdated.


Bernhard


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 5:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

On 9/17/2012 8:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
> the last time we moved from a no internet neighborhood, and had to
> bypass nice houses without connections. Luckily we looked until we
> found a place.

It really angers me that someone is driving down my street looking for unlocked
doors to find a way into their home. My network is secure, however my neighbors
may not be, leaving unknowingly there computer open for others to look around
and peek/steal.

--
Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Sherry/Support]

Ok you guys - enough with this thread.

And PLEASE trim messages - I'm purposefully leaving the junk behind
that you guys haven't been trimming off so you can take a look -
please look down at the end of the message - and see what a mess it
makes. There's no reason to leave the tags that the email program
leaves on nor messages that don't directly apply to your response.

NO MORE ON THIS THREAD.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Bernhard Scholz  wrote:
> Rich,
>
> not where I'm living.
> When was that.
> It sounds like conditions we had about 10 years ago.
> If I could afford it I coud have hade about 3 years ago 16Gb DSL.
>
> Bernhard
>
> 
>
> From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:59 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
>
>
> Jackie,
> the last time we moved from a no internet neighborhood, and had to bypass nice
> houses without connections. Luckily we looked until we found a place. It is 
> not
> as universal as some would think. This is in USA. Same problem elsewhere.
> Rich in LA CA
>
> --- On Sun, 9/16/12, Jackie King  wrote:
>
>
>
> From: Jackie King 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 1:04 PM
>
>
> Let me make it very easy because I used to be on the other end -
>
> There are still some 19 million Internet users (recent survey) in the
> United States that cannot get high speed internet access. For them, 
> attachments
> can be a real pain. I remember one night on another list waiting almost a half
> hour for a message with an attachment to download - and of course, on my
> service, I had no other way to get to other messages until that downloaded. 
> For
> many its not just a matter of what we would like to see.
>
> For some it is also a matter of fees - there are some people who still
> get charged for the amount of bandwidth downloaded. For them it can be a
> pocketbooks issue. It's not a matter of trying to exclude likes - it is a 
> matter
> of trying to include folks.
>
> I now have my high-speed, but only because I moved.
>
> Jackie
>
> On 9/16/2012 2:46 PM, RHS Consulting wrote:
>
>
> Interesting opinions.  Looks like the plain-texters have it.Â
> But wait a minute.  There are many of us out there that detest plain text in
> body or attachment, and I happen to be one of them.  To force us out of the
> picture smacks of unilatetral bullyism, and we wouldn't want that, would we?Â
> Stick to what you prefer and like best.
> Â
> Richard / HTML Always
> Â
> Â
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Rosenlof"   >
> To:  
>  >
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
>
>
> On 9/16/2012 11:40 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
> > If attachments are a no-no and you are supposed to send
> messages in plain
> > text isn't there some sort of setting on the Legacy end that
> would prevent
> > attachments and convert HTML/RTF messages to plain text?
>
> Nope
>
>    Didn't it  used to
> > be that way at one time?
>
> Nope
>
> --
> Tim Rosenlof
> Utah, USA
> Swedish Research
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Don Hendershot]

Please!  Make it stop!

~Don


On Sep 18, 2012, at 3:56 PM, "Bernhard Scholz"  wrote:

> Ron,
>
> the question in the first email was about the possibility to attach an image 
> or
> to use plain text or not.
>
> Thanks for checking RootsWeb.
> The scrubbing isn't the best sollution as information could be lost.
> Would you like to rewrite your emails several times until it fit to the 
> filters.
>
> I don't.
>
> In my opinion it's not Legacy's job to check if something is insulting.
> That's the problem of the writer and the reader.
>
> Why is it "Unfortunately Millennia doesn't want to offend customers by having
> email rejected".
> If they did it we would be a situation like we have in many countries.
> As an example I'm thinking of eg. the old GDR.
> Everybody not thinking like them was rejected.
>
>
> Bernhard
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:35 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
>
> Lloyd,
> It doesn't happen with RootsWeb.  Attachments are blocked and the email is
> rejected.  If a message is not plain text, the RootsWeb server attempts to 
> strip
> out the HTML code and then "posts" the plain text.  If the message can't be
> scrubbed it is rejected.  A very simple solution.
>
> You have to remember, RootsWeb lists are a convenience for people to
> communicate.  RootsWeb isn't concerned about insulting anyone for rejecting 
> the
> person's email.  On the other hand, the Legacy list serves two purposes - 
> first,
> it allows users to exchange ideas.
> Second, it is also used for users (customers) to communicate with support via
> the list.  Unfortunately Millennia doesn't want to offend customers by having
> email rejected, so the have made a conscious decision to use email software 
> that
> cannot be configured to block attachments and HTML messages.
>
> Ron Bernier
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 16, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Lloyd Hite  wrote:
>
>> On 9/16/2012 4:30 PM, Ron Bernier wrote:
>>> "forced" to have to put our anti-virus software to the test.
>>> Unfortunately, every time this discussion arises, there are certain
>>> individuals who basically respond that they will post in whatever
>>> format that they choose to post in and they display a total lack of
>>> concern/regard for everyone else on the list.
>>>
>>> Ron Bernier
>>> Woonsocket, RI
>>
>> Legacy should make a ruling of one warning and then next time booted
>> off the list for a couple of months. I wonder if these HTML lovers
>> have tried this with the rootsweb lists.
>>
>> Lloyd
>>
>> 
>> 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33
>> The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5056513b8101b5139040est02vuc
>>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Bernhard Scholz]

Rich,

not where I'm living.
When was that.
It sounds like conditions we had about 10 years ago.
If I could afford it I coud have hade about 3 years ago 16Gb DSL.

Bernhard



From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:59 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text


Jackie,
the last time we moved from a no internet neighborhood, and had to bypass nice
houses without connections. Luckily we looked until we found a place. It is not
as universal as some would think. This is in USA. Same problem elsewhere.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Sun, 9/16/12, Jackie King  wrote:



From: Jackie King 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 1:04 PM


Let me make it very easy because I used to be on the other end -

There are still some 19 million Internet users (recent survey) in the
United States that cannot get high speed internet access. For them, attachments
can be a real pain. I remember one night on another list waiting almost a half
hour for a message with an attachment to download - and of course, on my
service, I had no other way to get to other messages until that downloaded. For
many its not just a matter of what we would like to see.

For some it is also a matter of fees - there are some people who still
get charged for the amount of bandwidth downloaded. For them it can be a
pocketbooks issue. It's not a matter of trying to exclude likes - it is a matter
of trying to include folks.

I now have my high-speed, but only because I moved.

Jackie

On 9/16/2012 2:46 PM, RHS Consulting wrote:


Interesting opinions.  Looks like the plain-texters have it.Â
But wait a minute.  There are many of us out there that detest plain text in
body or attachment, and I happen to be one of them.  To force us out of the
picture smacks of unilatetral bullyism, and we wouldn't want that, would we?Â
Stick to what you prefer and like best.
Â
Richard / HTML Always
Â
Â
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To: http://us.mc843.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com> >
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text


On 9/16/2012 11:40 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
> If attachments are a no-no and you are supposed to send
messages in plain
> text isn't there some sort of setting on the Legacy end that
would prevent
> attachments and convert HTML/RTF messages to plain text?

Nope

   Didn't it  used to
> be that way at one time?

Nope

--
Tim Rosenlof
Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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RE: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Bernhard Scholz]

Ron,

the question in the first email was about the possibility to attach an image or
to use plain text or not.

Thanks for checking RootsWeb.
The scrubbing isn't the best sollution as information could be lost.
Would you like to rewrite your emails several times until it fit to the filters.

I don't.

In my opinion it's not Legacy's job to check if something is insulting.
That's the problem of the writer and the reader.

Why is it "Unfortunately Millennia doesn't want to offend customers by having
email rejected".
If they did it we would be a situation like we have in many countries.
As an example I'm thinking of eg. the old GDR.
Everybody not thinking like them was rejected.


Bernhard



-Original Message-
From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:35 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

Lloyd,
It doesn't happen with RootsWeb.  Attachments are blocked and the email is
rejected.  If a message is not plain text, the RootsWeb server attempts to strip
out the HTML code and then "posts" the plain text.  If the message can't be
scrubbed it is rejected.  A very simple solution.

You have to remember, RootsWeb lists are a convenience for people to
communicate.  RootsWeb isn't concerned about insulting anyone for rejecting the
person's email.  On the other hand, the Legacy list serves two purposes - first,
it allows users to exchange ideas.
Second, it is also used for users (customers) to communicate with support via
the list.  Unfortunately Millennia doesn't want to offend customers by having
email rejected, so the have made a conscious decision to use email software that
cannot be configured to block attachments and HTML messages.

Ron Bernier
Sent from my iPad

On Sep 16, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Lloyd Hite  wrote:

> On 9/16/2012 4:30 PM, Ron Bernier wrote:
>> "forced" to have to put our anti-virus software to the test.
>> Unfortunately, every time this discussion arises, there are certain
>> individuals who basically respond that they will post in whatever
>> format that they choose to post in and they display a total lack of
>> concern/regard for everyone else on the list.
>>
>> Ron Bernier
>> Woonsocket, RI
>
> Legacy should make a ruling of one warning and then next time booted
> off the list for a couple of months. I wonder if these HTML lovers
> have tried this with the rootsweb lists.
>
> Lloyd
>
> 
> 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33
> The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5056513b8101b5139040est02vuc
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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Tim Rosenlof]

On 9/18/2012 3:08 PM, Bernhard Scholz wrote:
> Jackie,
>
> thinking of the about the other over 18 million in the states still having 
> your
> old download problems.


Barney,

Would you like some cheese to go along with your whine ?

--
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Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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RE: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Bernhard Scholz]

Lloyd,

the question of plain text or not is not a Legacy problem but of the software
one is using to write/answer the email.

If this job could/would be done on Legacy's email servers it could mean that an
email sent in the wrong format eg., HTML would be rejected and the the sender of
that email would get an email that it was rejected due to the wrong format.
The time it takes to get this answer could take over one day.
Thus the sent information could be outdated.

The best is to change the settings in the email tool one is using.
As there are too many options I can't give one.
I use Outlook 2k3 and have it set to send in plain text.
Answering I change the format to plain text.

Bernhard


-Original Message-
From: Lloyd Hite [mailto:lhite3...@juno.com]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:23 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

On 9/16/2012 4:30 PM, Ron Bernier wrote:
> "forced" to have to put our anti-virus software to the test.
> Unfortunately, every time this discussion arises, there are certain
> individuals who basically respond that they will post in whatever
> format that they choose to post in and they display a total lack of
> concern/regard for everyone else on the list.
>
> Ron Bernier
> Woonsocket, RI

Legacy should make a ruling of one warning and then next time booted off the
list for a couple of months. I wonder if these HTML lovers have tried this with
the rootsweb lists.

Lloyd


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The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried
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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Sherry/Support]

I can't remember which site it was but Dropbox and SkyDrive both allow
you to upload files to a Public folder where others can view the
files.

There are plenty of file sharing sites.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Bernhard Scholz  wrote:
> Michele,
>
> I'm very happy that the team is trying to get emails to be only sent in plain
> text as they are smaller and the security is higher.
>
> Sherry sent me a while ago some webpages where one can securly upload images
> free of charge, which only that person can download. If I remember right you
> have to send the email address of the recieving the data.
>
> I'd have to search for a while to find that email but perhaps Sherry can do 
> that
> quicker.
>
> Bernhard
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Bernhard Scholz]

Richard,

just as an example for not using non plain text.

Look at your email.
If you had used plain text you wouldn't have your formating problem.

Two different font sizes in one email.

Bernhard


  _

From: RHS Consulting [mailto:rhsconsult...@comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text


Interesting opinions.  Looks like the plain-texters have it.  But wait a minute.
There are many of us out there that detest plain text in body or attachment, and
I happen to be one of them.  To force us out of the picture smacks of
unilatetral bullyism, and we wouldn't want that, would we?  Stick to what you
prefer and like best.

Richard / HTML Always


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Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text


On 9/16/2012 11:40 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
> If attachments are a no-no and you are supposed to send messages in plain
> text isn't there some sort of setting on the Legacy end that would prevent
> attachments and convert HTML/RTF messages to plain text?

Nope

   Didn't it  used to
> be that way at one time?

Nope

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RE: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Bernhard Scholz]

Jackie,

thinking of the about the other over 18 million in the states still having your
old download problems.
Why are you using HTML text instead of plain text as a plain text email can be
downloaded faster.

Bernhard



From: Jackie King [mailto:jskin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text


Let me make it very easy because I used to be on the other end -

There are still some 19 million Internet users (recent survey) in the United
States that cannot get high speed internet access. For them, attachments can be
a real pain. I remember one night on another list waiting almost a half hour for
a message with an attachment to download - and of course, on my service, I had
no other way to get to other messages until that downloaded. For many its not
just a matter of what we would like to see.

For some it is also a matter of fees - there are some people who still get
charged for the amount of bandwidth downloaded. For them it can be a pocketbooks
issue. It's not a matter of trying to exclude likes - it is a matter of trying
to include folks.

I now have my high-speed, but only because I moved.

Jackie

On 9/16/2012 2:46 PM, RHS Consulting wrote:


Interesting opinions.  Looks like the plain-texters have it.  But wait
a minute.  There are many of us out there that detest plain text in body or
attachment, and I happen to be one of them.  To force us out of the picture
smacks of unilatetral bullyism, and we wouldn't want that, would we?  Stick to
what you prefer and like best.
Â
Richard / HTML Always
Â
Â
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From: "Tim Rosenlof" mailto:spa...@xmission.com> >
To: mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com> >
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text


On 9/16/2012 11:40 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
> If attachments are a no-no and you are supposed to send messages in
plain
> text isn't there some sort of setting on the Legacy end that would
prevent
> attachments and convert HTML/RTF messages to plain text?

Nope

   Didn't it  used to
> be that way at one time?

Nope

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Utah, USA
Swedish Research



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RE: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Bernhard Scholz]

Michele,

I'm very happy that the team is trying to get emails to be only sent in plain
text as they are smaller and the security is higher.

Sherry sent me a while ago some webpages where one can securly upload images
free of charge, which only that person can download. If I remember right you
have to send the email address of the recieving the data.

I'd have to search for a while to find that email but perhaps Sherry can do that
quicker.

Bernhard

-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:41 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

If attachments are a no-no and you are supposed to send messages in plain text
isn't there some sort of setting on the Legacy end that would prevent
attachments and convert HTML/RTF messages to plain text?  Didn't it  used to be
that way at one time?

Michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] Location Name Changes

[Gene Adams]

And add in the correct Lat/Long for both so there is no question of where.  I 
have multiple people that started in "the Colonies or Territories" and never 
moved and then they become part of the United States and in different counties 
when the boundaries moved.

Gene



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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location Name Changes


You always record the location as it was at the time of the event.  You can 
always clarify things in your notes.
 
Michele
 
 
From:Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Location Name Changes
 
This is a subject that comes up every now and then so I thought I’d re-ask it 
again just to see what the current opinion seems to be.  It concerns location 
names that have changed since a genealogical event has occurred.
 
For example, a certain person was born in Richland County, Ohio in 1845. The US 
Census of 1850 now shows the family living in Ashland County. Did the family 
move? No, the boundaries were redrawn. The exact spot where the person was born 
is no longer called Richland County, but rather Ashland County. In some cases, 
I’ve got families living on the same exact farms and nothing has changed other 
than time and the location name.
 
So the question becomes, how do you show his birth location: the old name or 
the new name?
 
If you choose the old name for his birth location, the collective data and any 
generated reports make it seem as if the family moved. And in a few isolated 
cases, those location names may no longer exist. If you use the new name, 
Legacy complains at the time of entry that the county did not exist at the time 
and was not formed until 1846 (or whatever year). It’s kind of a “gentle 
warning” which you can easily dismiss and then everything would seem right in 
the universe.
 
I just had a similar situation come up in which an individual was born in 
Fargo, Dakota Territory (before it was a state), but sure enough, all later 
census, military, and marriage records show his birth location as Fargo, North 
Dakota. I’m trying to be a purist and use the original location names but 
judging from what I’m seeing on other people’s genealogical reports, I get the 
feeling that I’m swimming upstream on this.
 
Inquiring Minds Want to Know
Brian


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[LegacyUG] Location Name Changes

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

This is a subject that comes up every now and then so I thought I'd re-ask
it again just to see what the current opinion seems to be.  It concerns
location names that have changed since a genealogical event has occurred.



For example, a certain person was born in Richland County, Ohio in 1845. The
US Census of 1850 now shows the family living in Ashland County. Did the
family move? No, the boundaries were redrawn. The exact spot where the
person was born is no longer called Richland County, but rather Ashland
County. In some cases, I've got families living on the same exact farms and
nothing has changed other than time and the location name.



So the question becomes, how do you show his birth location: the old name or
the new name?



If you choose the old name for his birth location, the collective data and
any generated reports make it seem as if the family moved. And in a few
isolated cases, those location names may no longer exist. If you use the new
name, Legacy complains at the time of entry that the county did not exist at
the time and was not formed until 1846 (or whatever year). It's kind of a
"gentle warning" which you can easily dismiss and then everything would seem
right in the universe.



I just had a similar situation come up in which an individual was born in
Fargo, Dakota Territory (before it was a state), but sure enough, all later
census, military, and marriage records show his birth location as Fargo,
North Dakota. I'm trying to be a purist and use the original location names
but judging from what I'm seeing on other people's genealogical reports, I
get the feeling that I'm swimming upstream on this.



Inquiring Minds Want to Know

Brian




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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Don Hendershot]

Second the motion!

~Don


On Sep 18, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Tim Rosenlof  wrote:

> On 9/18/2012 12:39 PM, Brian Johnson wrote:
>> No, it remains at whatever the last instance was. Mine has always been
>> set to plain text and has never changed.
>>
>> Brian
>
> How about this thread be DROPPED !
>
> --
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> Utah, USA
> Swedish Research
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Tim Rosenlof]

On 9/18/2012 12:39 PM, Brian Johnson wrote:
> No, it remains at whatever the last instance was. Mine has always been
> set to plain text and has never changed.
>
> Brian

How about this thread be DROPPED !

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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Brian Johnson]

No, it remains at whatever the last instance was. Mine has always been
set to plain text and has never changed.

Brian

On 18 September 2012 12:47, Mike Fry  wrote:
> On 2012/09/18 18:44, Brian Johnson wrote:
>> Gmail allows you to use plain text. At the upper left of your text box
>> is a link to send in text or 'rich formatting'.
>
> True. But that's for a single message. The user has to remember to do that 
> every
> time they post to the User Group.
>
> --
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> Johannesburg (g)
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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Mike Fry]

On 2012/09/18 18:44, Brian Johnson wrote:
> Gmail allows you to use plain text. At the upper left of your text box
> is a link to send in text or 'rich formatting'.

True. But that's for a single message. The user has to remember to do that every
time they post to the User Group.

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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Brian Johnson]

Gmail allows you to use plain text. At the upper left of your text box
is a link to send in text or 'rich formatting'.

Brian


>
> No, that's your responsibility. I use Thunderbird and I can set it so that 
> every
> message I send to the user group goes as plain text. I can also set it so that
> for another address messages go as HTML. Any web-based mail program/service
> (Gmail) wants you to use HTML almost exclusively and makes it awkward to do
> otherwise. I have a gmail address but I don't use Gmail via any browser.
>
> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[R G Strong-genes]

Might I add to those that use gmail (my genealogy email is from the gmail
server) that there are instructions on gmail how to set up your email client
to retrieve those emails. My email client is Windows Live Mail and I have no
problem setting up this group email to send only plain-text). And may I add
that my main email account is on hotmail and also have set up my email
client to download those messages also.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:05 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

On 2012/09/16 19:40, Michele Lewis wrote:

> If attachments are a no-no and you are supposed to send messages in plain
> text isn't there some sort of setting on the Legacy end that would prevent
> attachments and convert HTML/RTF messages to plain text?  Didn't it  used
> to
> be that way at one time?

No, that's your responsibility. I use Thunderbird and I can set it so that
every
message I send to the user group goes as plain text. I can also set it so
that
for another address messages go as HTML. Any web-based mail program/service
(Gmail) wants you to use HTML almost exclusively and makes it awkward to do
otherwise. I have a gmail address but I don't use Gmail via any browser.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)

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RE: [LegacyUG] New Legacy Release

[Ron Taylor]

I have over 230,000 individuals in my main Legacy database running version 
7.5.0.208 and the computer is Win7 64bit with Intel i7 processor and 12gb RAM.  
I have not seen a "not responding" problem with backup on exit.Ron Taylor


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Re: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[R G Strong-genes]

Very simple to fix! In receivers email program is to go to properties for
the addressee (ie the usergroup) and check the box to send only in plain
text, seems to work for me!
Russ

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 11:30 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

Quite simply, because there are those who refuse to follow
rules/requests.  I will repeat what others have said previously, if a
user refuses to adhere to the rules/requests, they should be given one
warning.  If the user repeats the violation they should be removed from
the list for a predetermined amount of time - I.E. - 1st violation 1
month "suspension", 2nd violation 3 month "suspension", 3rd violation
permanent removal from the list.  Unfortunately, the Millennia folks
would never implement such a system because they wouldn't want to upset
any of their customers.  There are several subscribers to this list who
have repeatedly made it clear they do not care what the rules of the
list are.  They insis that they will send their emails to the list in
any format that they want to.  Apparently the Millennia feel that it is
acceptable for the violators to cause potential undue hardship to those
who are on dialup and/or risk sending a hidden virus/malware to other
subscribers of the list.

Ron Bernier,
Woonsocket, RI


-- Original Message --
From: "RICHARD SCHULTHIES" 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: 9/17/2012 10:48:26 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
>Why should Legacy have to purchase software and increase cost when people
>should be expected to follow rules/requests.
>Rich in LA CA
>
>--- On Sun, 9/16/12, Ron Bernier <
>ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net
>> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>From: Ron Bernier <
>>ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net
>>>
>>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text
>>To:
>>LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>
>>Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 11:22 AM
>>Michelle,
>>
>>Legacy support has always maintained that there software
>>cannot block
>>attachments.  They always relied on users to refrain
>>from sending
>>attachments and/or HTML messages.  Finally thy gave up
>>on saying no
>>HTML because some users simply refused to follow the
>>guidelines.  At
>>least, they haven't caved on attachments even though some
>>users ignore
>>that also.  It would be really nice if they would look
>>into software
>>that can block/reject messages sent to the list in HTML
>>and/or
>>attachments, but it doesn't look like that will ever
>>happen.
>>
>>Ron Bernier
>>Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] New Legacy Release

[Sherry/Support]

I would recommending doing a quick uninstall and reinstall, using the
update from our website www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > Download > Download
Update


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Ian J GARDENER  wrote:
> Since upgrading to the new release of Legacy yesterday, there is a potential
> problem when exiting, at least for me.
>
>
>
> I exit legacy, click the backup then the message comes up that legacy is not
> responding, it freezes for about 4 seconds then unfreezes and does the
> backup.
>
> Anyone else experiencing this?
>
> I’m running Win7 32bit and Legacy 7.5.0.208, never had a problem before and
> my file has less than a thousand individuals.
>
>
>
> Ian GARDENER
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] New Legacy Release

[Bobby Johnson]

I checked my 7.5.0.208 with Win 7 64 and did not receive this reaction.

Bobby



From: Ian J GARDENER [mailto:ijg3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] New Legacy Release



Since upgrading to the new release of Legacy yesterday, there is a potential 
problem when exiting, at least for me.



I exit legacy, click the backup then the message comes up that legacy is not 
responding, it freezes for about 4 seconds then unfreezes and does the backup.

Anyone else experiencing this?



I’m running Win7 32bit and Legacy 7.5.0.208, never had a problem before and my 
file has less than a thousand individuals.



Ian GARDENER

Australia

www.gardener.org.au




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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Mike Fry]

On 2012/09/17 17:07, Tessa Keough wrote:

> Has anyone at Legacy considered simplemachines.org (a free forum
> software) for use with this forum. The Guild of One-Name Studies
> recently added this type of forum to its member services/resources. It
> is a clean system with a topic-based layout. Members of the forum are
> able to post by topic, attach videos, photos, screen captures, and
> files. These are on-line so they do not download unless you choose to
> download them. It may be something to consider as forums evolve over
> time. Additionally you would not need to have posts in your email -
> just sign in to the forum and look for the topics that interest you.

That is a web-based thing. This is email-based. Different animals. When you go
web-based, you almost force the less-knowledgeable users to use a web browser.
For those users where their ISP deals are capped by cost or volume, this is not
very useful. Yes, some of these "open" forum engines have an email facility,
buts that's only for receiving notifications of messages being posted to topics
that the user has previously expressed an interest in. Posting and replying
still requires logging on to the forum site, with all the attendant overheads of
data traffic.

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Re: [LegacyUG] attachements, plain text

[Mike Fry]

On 2012/09/16 19:40, Michele Lewis wrote:

> If attachments are a no-no and you are supposed to send messages in plain
> text isn't there some sort of setting on the Legacy end that would prevent
> attachments and convert HTML/RTF messages to plain text?  Didn't it  used to
> be that way at one time?

No, that's your responsibility. I use Thunderbird and I can set it so that every
message I send to the user group goes as plain text. I can also set it so that
for another address messages go as HTML. Any web-based mail program/service
(Gmail) wants you to use HTML almost exclusively and makes it awkward to do
otherwise. I have a gmail address but I don't use Gmail via any browser.

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[LegacyUG] Version 7.5.0.208

[Mike Fry]

With all the past discussion about the date and time stamp of the RG.DAT file,
might we have expected an update to the file in the recent version to bring it
into line with Sherry's file?

Or, as I suspect, did Sherry actually do a fresh install of Legacy.

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