Re: [LegacyUG] Question regarding website building
I have chosen to only list the dead on my blog, so anything I publish ends when the living generation begins, and to me it's not a matter of privacy but of respect for the living. I am very open about the details of my life, the places I've lived, career etc., some of my cousins aren't. I have just found it easier to not offend them by only dealing with the dead in public. That said, when I share a gedcom with others or receive one I really, really, hate getting them with 200 "living" people in the index. I find them of little value. I don't need to know that living has 5 living children. I don't share my personal gedcom's with just anyone because I list everyone in them with all the facts and documents I can find. Have a great day! Mary Jane http://allwrappedup4u.blogspot.com/ http://foundingfamilylines.blogspot.com From: Brian L. Lightfoot To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:57 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Question regarding website building I think this bottle has been passed around many times before. As many of the other replies may so indicate, the choice of “Living” over the actual name seems to be the politically correct answer. But as what little hair I have left grows more grey and my eyes get dimmer, I find myself pondering this over and over myself. I can certainly understand omitting just about all details about a living person but why is it not prudent to just show their names? Before you answer, consider that their birth is a matter of public record, there was probably a newspaper publication naming their parents when they were born, probably a wedding announcement giving names of parents, siblings, and other relatives published in their local city and elsewhere. Their names are easily found by looking in the white pages of a phone book which not only gives the phone number but their residential address. Even if you’re not sure of the exact names of children then a quick click and visit to Spokeo.com reveals quite a bit about the parents including the names of their children. My point is that all this information is readily available and open to the public but for some reason the direction that genealogy has taken in the past 20 years is to hide even their names. Someone tell me why and please do it without using the word “privacy” because their lives have all been public so far. Just wondering. Brian in CA From:Richard Falzini [mailto:rfalz...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:56 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Question regarding website building Hello, I have been up dating my web site I have made with Legacy, and at the current moment I do not list names, birth dates, marriage dates, etc. of any living individuals. when the name of a living person should be displayed it says LIVING. I wanted to ask should I keep my site like that, or would it be ok to show the name such as Richard Falzini but suppress all personal data from the viewers of my site? I look forward to all input regarding my question Thanks Rich Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Event sentence redesign
OK, then Given the underwhelming support for this idea I'll drop it. Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What type of source do I use
Did you ever find this church name? It occurs to me you may have entered it as a Location or as an Address, instead of as a Master Source...? --Paula From: MJ SA To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tue, October 23, 2012 7:57:24 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] What type of source do I use I know a few years back, I put the name and address of a Church in Sicily in my program, when I went to find it to add as a source for another person, i couldn't find it. So I am going to try and start over on Sources, but I have no idea what the difference is between SourceWriter , Basic Source and Master Source and other words I have seen on this email list. I have a few different sources: Records office in town in Sicily Church in same town in Sicily Microfilms from FHC Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] FGS event pictures problem
I wish the programmers "good luck!" because the very next day it all worked just fine! (did not uncheck itself) hmm... --Paula From: Brian/Support To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Fri, October 26, 2012 4:32:35 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FGS event pictures problem That is an outstanding problem and a number of reports are affected, not just the FGS. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 26/10/2012 16:47, Paula Ryburn wrote: > Anyone remember how to fix the problem where the "event pictures" box > unchecks itself on the Include tab every time you run an FGS? > > Thanks, > > --Paula -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcom of Direct Line Ancestors
I so heartily agree! And not just for the purposes of generating a GEDCOM file. I have submitted a request for a Lineage report that would show the lineage between two people, rather than the way it works now: completely and always the paternal line. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Lynda SoRelle To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sun, October 28, 2012 1:59:37 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Gedcom of Direct Line Ancestors Ron, One would think, with all the new DNA genealogy, that Legacy developers would make it easier to select lines of people (whatever their criteria) for a gedcom. Thanks again! Lynda Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question regarding website building
Finally, at least one reason stands out amongst the others: " Does not an individual deserve the right of privacy, especially regarding their identity?" This has been an issue that the courts have been struggling with. Is just the name alone all that there is to an "identity" because just knowing a name is not identity theft. Identity theft is obtaining and fraudulently using a person's personal information for financial gain. There are many acts that a person does throughout their lives to negate that expectation of privacy. If you register to vote, you gave up that right. If you own property, you gave up that right. If you have a telephone, you gave up that right. If you got married, you gave up that right. If you got divorced, you gave up that right. If you ever posted a message on the Internet, you gave up that right. If you own a firearm, you gave up that right. If you own a motor vehicle, you gave up that right (in some states). If you’re on Facebook, you gave up that right. This is not me stating an opinion but rather the way in which courts have ruled. So when a genealogist posts names of living people, he or she must have gleaned that information from some public document...birth record, marriage announcement, etc. If a genealogist must withhold names of living people, shouldn't newspapers and TV news also follow the same rules. Imagine how silly such news reports would sound: "A Living person today was arrested in Boston for assaulting a Living person and his wife, another Living person. According to Police Chief Living person, the accused Living person was arrested earlier this year for the burglary of the home of 3 other Living persons." Sounds quite silly doesn't it, yet that is exactly how many genealogy sites appear. I've even gotten a request to remove the name of a previous wife, since deceased. I guess he didn't want his family members or his current wife to know that he was married before. And the craziest one of all was a request to remove the names of a person's dead parents. Why? I haven't a clue. Both requests were denied. Not my mistake that he married the wrong person and not my mistake that he isn't proud of his parents. Change the public records and then I'll change my web sites. (Oh, I should add once again, that for these living persons only their names appear. I withhold all other personal information.) The bottom line: I think there is no clear cut rule here. If you are making your own genealogical web pages then do whatever you are comfortable with. But think about it for a long time first before you make that decision. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Lee Bruch [mailto:lbr...@nwlink.com] Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Question regarding website building Further, a practical and safety matter: In an ideal world there would not be identity theft. But it is getting relatively common. To have names associated with the family background is one of the strong tools a identity thief could use. Genealogy sites are known as one of the potential easy sources of private information. A thief could, of course, amass the info in other ways, but ... if one were to follow that logic, everything about a person, would be public because "if might be gotten elsewhere so why bother safeguarding it". And further, an ethical matter: Does not an individual deserve the right of privacy, especially regarding their identity? It seems to me as if the minimum one could do is to at least ask their permission before exposing their name on a public family tree. And even further, a legal matter: I don't know the law in all states nor nations. But it wouldn't surprise me if some nations, such as some countries in Western Europe had restrictions on that. Though again, I don't know Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question regarding website building
Lee, It has always seemed to me that America is much more concerned with privacy rather than western Europe. I do not find it to be a big issue in the UK, and very few people have asked me not to publish their name. I am not aware of any country over here which have restrictions. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 "Lee Bruch" wrote: >Further, a practical and safety matter: >In an ideal world there would not be identity theft. But it is getting >relatively common. To have names associated with the family background is one >of the strong tools a identity thief could use. Genealogy sites are known as >one of the potential easy sources of private information. A thief could, of >course, amass the info in other ways, but ... if one were to follow that >logic, everything about a person, would be public because "if might be gotten >elsewhere so why bother safeguarding it". > >And further, an ethical matter: >Does not an individual deserve the right of privacy, especially regarding >their identity? It seems to me as if the minimum one could do is to at least >ask their permission before exposing their name on a public family tree. > >And even further, a legal matter: >I don't know the law in all states nor nations. But it wouldn't surprise me if >some nations, such as some countries in Western Europe had restrictions on >that. Though again, I don't know > >-Original Message-ittle hair I have left grows more grey and my eyes get >dimmer, I >> find myself pondering this over and over myself. I can certainly >> understand omitting just about all details about a living person but >> why is it not prudent to just show their names? >> >> Before you answer, consider that their birth is a matter of public >> record, there was probably a newspaper publication naming their >> parents when they were born, probably a wedding announcement giving >> names of parents, siblings, and other relatives published in their >> local city and elsewhere. Their names are easily found by looking in >> the white pages of a phone book which not only gives the phone number >> but their residential address. Even if you’re not sure of the exact >> names of children then a quick click and visit to Spokeo.com reveals >> quite a bit about the parents including the names of their children. >> >> My point is that all this information is readily available and open to >> the public but for some reason the direction that genealogy has taken >> in the past 20 years is to hide even their names. Someone tell me why >> and please do it without using the word “privacy†because their >> lives have all been public so far. Just wondering. >> >> Brian in CA >> >> *From:*Richard Falzini [mailto:rfalz...@yahoo.com] > > > > >> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Question regarding website building >> >> Hello, >> >> I have been up dating my web site I have made with Legacy, and at the >> current moment I do not list names, birth dates, marriage dates, etc. >> >> of any living individuals. >> >> when the name of a living person should be displayed it says LIVING. >> >> I wanted to ask should I keep my site like that, or would it be ok to >> show the name such as Richard Falzini but suppress all personal data >> from the viewers of my site? >> >> I look forward to all input regarding my question >> >> Thanks >> >> Rich > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Families App
What exactly does "Picture not available" on the Families App mean? I've updated/uploaded my families app with no apparent errors but when I access on my phone I get the "picture not available" message. What does this mean? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
