Re: [LegacyUG] Focus List format, please

[Jenny M Benson]

On 11/02/2013 17:17, Ron Taylor wrote:
> In Legacy, click Help>Show Help Index>Search and then enter "focus
> group" then click List Topics and then double click on the first
> topic listed which should be Focus Groups.  You could also find it in
> the manual but the help files are so much faster and up-to-date.

Discussing Focus Groups off-list with Paula we agreed that the "problem"
is not in actually creating the Focus Group (which is very obvious, I
think, when you look at the FG screen and the Help file is helpful).
However, what had confused me at first and which confused Paula was
explained as follows:

"What I found confusing when I first looked at FGs was the relationship
between the lines showing in the first window [something like "Ancestors
(Direct Line, 999 gen.) for Joe Blow (123)"] and the resultant file if
you saved a Focus Group...

You can only have one Focus Group "active" at a time and if you create
one ... you get that one line in the window and it stays there
regardless of whether you Save the FG and even if you close and re-open
Legacy.  Once you have created a FG and have that one line, you can add
to that FG by, for example, going through the create procedure again...
to, for example, add the Direct Ancestors of Joe Blow's wife.  Then you
will have 2 lines in that window, the first reading "Ancestors (Direct
Line, 999 gen.) for Joe Blow (123)" and the second reading "Ancestors
(Direct Line, 999 gen.) for Jane Doe (789)".

So in other words, those lines are the contents of the Focus Group, NOT
individual Focus Groups as I had thought at first!"

I hope that helps someone ... and also hope I'm correct about only
having one "active" FG at a time.

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicate spouses

[JLB]

Thanks. I think I worked it out. New MRINs got assigned to some of the
people when opening one file into another. I could swear I un-ticked
that box. Nothing to do with LTools. Or merging either.
-
JL Beeken
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http://jlog.jgen.ws/

On 2/11/2013 9:11 AM, Ron Taylor wrote:
> This is probably a question that Dennis Kowalek should answer but I think the 
> Ltool you are using has the option to put a / and then the MRIN of the 
> parents in the UserID field.  So 2019/3726 may mean that the individual's 
> MRIN is 2019 and the parent's MRIN is 3726.
>
> You are likely getting duplicate problems because a given MRIN should apply 
> to 2 people.  If you are doing that in two separate databases and then 
> combining those databases...the MRINs in the UserID will definitely be 
> confusing if utilized for merging.
> Ron Taylor
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Focus List format, please

[Ron Taylor]

In Legacy, click Help>Show Help Index>Search and then enter "focus group" then 
click List Topics and then double click on the first topic listed which should 
be Focus Groups.  You could also find it in the manual but the help files are 
so much faster and up-to-date.Ron Taylor

--- On Mon, 2/11/13, Cynthia N. Russell  wrote:

From: Cynthia N. Russell 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Focus List format, please
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 10:06 AM

I am hoping that you can post this information to the list as I am also 
interested in this information!  And, I thank you!
 
Cynthia


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Ron Taylor  wrote:





The real advantage of a focus group is that it does not contain records but 
instead is the criteria used to identify records in the database.  Therefore it 
is dynamic.  If the focus group criteria is for direct line ancestors and you 
subsequently add more of them to your database, then executing a focus group 
search will pick up all of them including the new ones you have added.  The 
focus group can contain lots of different criteria depending on how you build 
it.  And the best part is that you can save and re-load focus groups.  You 
might have one focus group for work with Aunt Margaret and another one for the 
family newsletter, etc.


Jenny's instructions will work great for your request.
Ron Taylor

--- On Sun, 2/10/13, Paula Ryburn  wrote:


From: Paula Ryburn 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search list question
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Sunday, February 10, 2013, 5:10 PM








Aha!  Jenny, I have been wanting to use Focus Groups for a while, but can't get 
the hang of it.
Would you mind too terribly much sending me the instructions to generate a 
focus group that contains just the direct line ancestors of an individual?
(I will most likely say "duh!" after reading it, but appreciate your knowledge 
so much!)
Thanks,
 --Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams






From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Sent: Mon, January 21, 2013 3:49:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search list question

On 21/01/2013 21:03, John Roose wrote:

> An example: I have a search list of people born, died, buried in Ohio.
>>From that list of several hundred names, what is the easiest way to
> identify those that are direct ancestors? They are, of course, bold in

> the resulting "Search List" but there has to be an easier way than
> scrolling down and tagging them individually. Suggestions?

Tag your Search list with an unused tag, say 8 for example.  Create a

Focus Group comprising Direct Line Ancestors and tag that group with,
say tag 9 for example.  Then Search for Individuals with Tag 9 AND Tag 9
set to tagged.

(There might be a simpler way, but I seem to be suffering from brain fog

to-day.)
--
Jenny M Benson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Focus List format, please

[Sherry/Support]

It cannot be posted as an attachment. If anyone is interested in this
information, please contact the person directly.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Cynthia N. Russell <
fergusresearc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am hoping that you can post this information to the list as I am also
> interested in this information!  And, I thank you!
>
> Cynthia
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Ron Taylor  wrote:
>
>>   The real advantage of a focus group is that it does not contain
>> records but instead is the criteria used to identify records in the
>> database.  Therefore it is dynamic.  If the focus group criteria is for
>> direct line ancestors and you subsequently add more of them to your
>> database, then executing a focus group search will pick up all of them
>> including the new ones you have added.  The focus group can contain lots of
>> different criteria depending on how you build it.  And the best part is
>> that you can save and re-load focus groups.  You might have one focus group
>> for work with Aunt Margaret and another one for the family newsletter, etc.
>>
>> Jenny's instructions will work great for your request.
>> Ron Taylor
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 2/10/13, Paula Ryburn * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Paula Ryburn 
>>
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search list question
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Date: Sunday, February 10, 2013, 5:10 PM
>>
>>
>>   Aha!  Jenny, I have been wanting to use Focus Groups for a while, but
>> can't get the hang of it.
>> Would you mind too terribly much sending me the instructions to generate
>> a focus group that contains just the direct line ancestors of an individual?
>> (I will most likely say "duh!" after reading it, but appreciate your
>> knowledge so much!)
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Paula in Texas
>> Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton
>> Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis
>> Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind
>> Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters
>> Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams
>>
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* Jenny M Benson 
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Sent:* Mon, January 21, 2013 3:49:56 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Search list question
>>
>> On 21/01/2013 21:03, John Roose wrote:
>> > An example: I have a search list of people born, died, buried in Ohio.
>> >>From that list of several hundred names, what is the easiest way to
>> > identify those that are direct ancestors? They are, of course, bold in
>> > the resulting "Search List" but there has to be an easier way than
>> > scrolling down and tagging them individually. Suggestions?
>>
>> Tag your Search list with an unused tag, say 8 for example.  Create a
>> Focus Group comprising Direct Line Ancestors and tag that group with,
>> say tag 9 for example.  Then Search for Individuals with Tag 9 AND Tag 9
>> set to tagged.
>>
>> (There might be a simpler way, but I seem to be suffering from brain fog
>> to-day.)
>> --
>> Jenny M Benson
>>
>> 
>>
>>



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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicate spouses

[Ron Taylor]

This is probably a question that Dennis Kowalek should answer but I think the 
Ltool you are using has the option to put a / and then the MRIN of the parents 
in the UserID field.  So 2019/3726 may mean that the individual's MRIN is 2019 
and the parent's MRIN is 3726.

You are likely getting duplicate problems because a given MRIN should apply to 
2 people.  If you are doing that in two separate databases and then combining 
those databases...the MRINs in the UserID will definitely be confusing if 
utilized for merging.
Ron Taylor

--- On Mon, 2/11/13, JLB  wrote:

> From: JLB 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] duplicate spouses
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 1:21 AM
> It's not duplicate people. There's
> nothing to merge.
>
> I restored an earlier file and started over checking the
> Name list at
> each step. My Name list is set to show the User IDs instead
> of the RINs.
>
> It's when I try to set the MRINs as the User IDs with LTools
> that it
> goes awry and assigns a new set next to the originals
> instead of simply
> putting the MRINs in the User ID fields as it's supposed to
> do and has
> always done til now.
>
> Instead of 2019 for instance, it'll say 2019/3726. For
> parents with
> children, one marriage will show the children, the other
> marriage with
> no children.
>
> Odd. There hasn't been an update to LTools lately so what's
> really
> causing it?
> 
> JL Beeken
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://jlog.jgen.ws/
>
> On 2/10/2013 11:49 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
> > If you merge low number left into high number right low
> number stays
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Search list question

[Ron Taylor]

The real advantage of a focus group is that it does not contain records but 
instead is the criteria used to identify records in the database.  Therefore it 
is dynamic.  If the focus group criteria is for direct line ancestors and you 
subsequently add more of them to your database, then executing a focus group 
search will pick up all of them including the new ones you have added.  The 
focus group can contain lots of different criteria depending on how you build 
it.  And the best part is that you can save and re-load focus groups.  You 
might have one focus group for work with Aunt Margaret and another one for the 
family newsletter, etc.
Jenny's instructions will work great for your request.Ron Taylor

--- On Sun, 2/10/13, Paula Ryburn  wrote:

From: Paula Ryburn 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search list question
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Sunday, February 10, 2013, 5:10 PM

Aha!  Jenny, I have been wanting to use Focus Groups for a while, but can't get 
the hang of it.Would you mind too terribly much sending me the instructions to 
generate a focus group that contains just the direct line ancestors of an 
individual?(I will most likely say "duh!" after reading it, but appreciate your 
knowledge so much!)Thanks, --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller
 Williams

From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, January 21, 2013 3:49:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search list question


On 21/01/2013 21:03, John Roose wrote:
> An example: I have a search list of people born, died, buried in Ohio.
>>From that list of several hundred names, what is the easiest way to
> identify those that are direct ancestors? They are, of course, bold in
> the resulting "Search List" but there has to be an easier way than
> scrolling down and tagging them individually. Suggestions?

Tag your Search list with an unused tag, say 8 for example.  Create a
Focus Group comprising Direct Line Ancestors and tag that group with,
say tag 9 for example.  Then Search for Individuals with Tag 9 AND Tag 9
set to tagged.

(There might be a simpler way, but I seem to be suffering from brain fog
to-day.)
--
Jenny M Benson







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