Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 US Census

2013-11-22 Thread Mike Fry 
On 2013/11/23 08:11, Tony Rolfe wrote:

> I'd like to have an event of some sort to record this, but I think I
> should say that "On 8th April 1940 they said that they were living in
> Orange county in 1935", rather than "on 1st April 1935 they were living
> in Orange County".
>
> How do other folk record this data?  Is there a standard way to do it?

What about an extra Residence event?

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[LegacyUG] 1940 US Census

2013-11-22 Thread Tony Rolfe 
I've just discovered my first distant cousins on the 1940 US Census.
Included in this information is the fact that they were living in Orange
County Florida on 1st April 1935.

I'd like to have an event of some sort to record this, but I think I
should say that "On 8th April 1940 they said that they were living in
Orange county in 1935", rather than "on 1st April 1935 they were living
in Orange County".

How do other folk record this data?  Is there a standard way to do it?

Any advice would be appreciated.

thanks

Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting File

2013-11-22 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree 
Diane,

I had this happen some time ago and ended up unlinking all of the children
of the grandparents, creating the new files (which then created with only
ancestry of each grandparent) and then adding the children back into the
new files.

Or, you might try unlinking the marriage of your parents first and see if
that resolves the inclusion of all.

But most importantly dont forget to uncheck the "include all" when Tagging
the records.


Hope that helps,


Jay






On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Diane Szabo wrote:

> Hello,
> Today I tried splitting my family file unsuccessfully, even though I
> printed
> out and followed the steps for "Splitting Family Files in Legacy" by David
> Berdan.   For some reason, even though I selected the name of my maternal
> grandparents, it selects everyone in my entire file.  I've tried this now
> four times and get the same result each time.  I then tried a focus group,
> and that didn't work either.
>
> I need it split between both sets of grandparents:  Paternal: Pare-Bellrose
> in one file and Maternal: Normand-Guertin in the second. Now I don't know
> what to do or how to do it.  If others have successfully done this, please
> advise what your steps were.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Diane Szabo, long time Legacy user.
>
>
>
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re: [LegacyUG] Splitting File

2013-11-22 Thread Jim Terry/Support 
Diane,

Here are two critical things to keep in mind if your entire family file is
getting copied in the Split Screen View:

1. When in an Ancestor Options screen, select only 'Direct Line Ancestors'
and optionally you can check mark the three boxes under Direct Line
Ancestors. Do not select 'Entire Ancestor Line'. This option is exactly
like adding an entire family line and will take everybody connected in any
way to the individual -- up or down or sideways in his or her family tree.

2. When in a Descendant Options screen, select only 'Descendants (includes
all descendants)'. Do not select 'Entire Descendant Line'. This option is
exactly like adding an entire family line and will take everybody connected
in any way to the individual -- up or down or sideways in his or her family
tree.

Jim
Legacy Family Tree
Technical Support

 Original Message 
> From: "Diane Szabo" 
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:25 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Splitting File
>
> Hello,
> Today I tried splitting my family file unsuccessfully, even though I
printed
> out and followed the steps for "Splitting Family Files in Legacy" by
David
> Berdan.   For some reason, even though I selected the name of my
maternal
> grandparents, it selects everyone in my entire file.  I've tried this
now
> four times and get the same result each time.  I then tried a focus
group,
> and that didn't work either.
>
> I need it split between both sets of grandparents:  Paternal:
Pare-Bellrose
> in one file and Maternal: Normand-Guertin in the second. Now I don't
know
> what to do or how to do it.  If others have successfully done this,
please
> advise what your steps were.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Diane Szabo, long time Legacy user.
>
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Splitting File

2013-11-22 Thread Diane Szabo 
Hello,
Today I tried splitting my family file unsuccessfully, even though I printed
out and followed the steps for "Splitting Family Files in Legacy" by David
Berdan.   For some reason, even though I selected the name of my maternal
grandparents, it selects everyone in my entire file.  I've tried this now
four times and get the same result each time.  I then tried a focus group,
and that didn't work either.

I need it split between both sets of grandparents:  Paternal: Pare-Bellrose
in one file and Maternal: Normand-Guertin in the second. Now I don't know
what to do or how to do it.  If others have successfully done this, please
advise what your steps were.

Thanks in advance,
Diane Szabo, long time Legacy user.




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Re: [LegacyUG] If this is find-a-fault week --

2013-11-22 Thread Gene Young 
On 11/22/2013 10:17 AM, singhals wrote:
> Yes, that's one reason.
>
> I research in areas and eras where b-m-d records are
> non-extant, regular census weren't yet being taken, and
> portions of the family were of denominations that failed to
> see a need to make useful baptismal, marriage or burial
> registers.  KNOWING that one particular line had a
> "Bathesheba" or three in every generation between 1940 and
> 1840 gives me a thread to pull in discovering the name of
> the wife of Charles (whose siblings do not include a
> Bathesheba).
>
> Additionally, it enables me to say "There was only one
> her-name-here, but apparently there was confusion about her
> middle name."  Her descendants find that fascinating.
>
> It also picks up typos of the James ended up Janes and Jane
> turned into Jame sort.
>
> It's essentially another research tool I've found useful in
> the past, but I really hate the process of getting it out of
> the toolkit these days.
>
> The list I used showed:
>
> Ruinson = 725
> Junson = 21
> Smuth = 2
> Jane = 125
> Charles = 250
> Elizabeth = 250
>
> Cheryl
>
>

Cheryl,

I believe someone else has already mentioned GEDxlate and I wholeheartedly 
recommend this program. Export your family file to a GED and import it into 
GEDxlate.  It has many options which will give you what you want and much more. 
 It is free and I have been using it productively for several years.  It is one 
of the essential tools in my genealogy toolbox.

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Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada
With Legacy Family Tree
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Re: [LegacyUG] If this is find-a-fault week --

2013-11-22 Thread singhals 
Yes, that's one reason.

I research in areas and eras where b-m-d records are
non-extant, regular census weren't yet being taken, and
portions of the family were of denominations that failed to
see a need to make useful baptismal, marriage or burial
registers.  KNOWING that one particular line had a
"Bathesheba" or three in every generation between 1940 and
1840 gives me a thread to pull in discovering the name of
the wife of Charles (whose siblings do not include a
Bathesheba).

Additionally, it enables me to say "There was only one
her-name-here, but apparently there was confusion about her
middle name."  Her descendants find that fascinating.

It also picks up typos of the James ended up Janes and Jane
turned into Jame sort.

It's essentially another research tool I've found useful in
the past, but I really hate the process of getting it out of
the toolkit these days.

The list I used showed:

Ruinson = 725
Junson = 21
Smuth = 2
Jane = 125
Charles = 250
Elizabeth = 250

Cheryl


Kathy Thompson wrote:
> If a person is doing a one name study, and therefore all the
> surnames are, for example, Johnson, they might like to know
> how many John Johnson's there are.
>
> Similarly with a one place study, how many people named
> George lived in that one place.
>
> Yes, they are statistical counts, but then, if you really
> think about about it, so is the whole realm of family
> history, it's all about statistics.
> Statistics that build up and when put together in a logical
> order, form the bones of the story of a person's life.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 November 2013 10:16, 2marion wimps <2wi...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> I am struggling to understand why anyone would want a
> count of people with Given Names - I can understand a
> count of Surnames but a count of Given Names to me seems
> purely accountancy fuelled - not Genealogy - perhaps
> someone could explain the reasoning?
> Marion
>
>
> On 21 November 2013 22:17, Brian/Support
>  > wrote:
>
> Because of the design of the Database you can get
> easily get that for
> Surnames but not for Forenames. Surnames are stored
> in a single Master
> Surname List but Given Names are not in a table so
> Legacy cannot "count"
> occurrences.
>
> To do so for Forenames we would have to parse every
> Given Name field
> looking for the break between Given Names to Create
> a list of Forenames.
> We would then have to sort the list and count the
> duplicates to
> determine how many times John or Jerry are used.
> This is not impossible
> but it was a statistic report that has never been
> suggested.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> 
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
> When replying to this message, please include all
> previous correspondence.
> Thanks.
>
> On 20/11/2013 6:46 PM, singhals wrote:
>  > Is there a GOOD kludge to get a COUNT of each
> name in the
>  > database -- as in, how many SMITH surnames, how
> many John
>  > forenames etc etc?
>  >
>  > I mean, sure, I can print-to-csv an alpha list,
> parse it in
>  > xcel, and run a count that way, but an older
> version of a
>  > different program /used/ to print me such a list
>  > automagically in about 4 keystrokes.
>  >
>  > Cheryl




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Re: [LegacyUG] If this is find-a-fault week --

2013-11-22 Thread Ellen 
I have wanted to know the number of people by given name if it were easy to 
figure out.  We have so many Abraham's and Daniel's, etc. and it would be great 
to list in our family history book the top 5 or 10 names by century or 
something.  For those of us doing books on our families, it might be helpful.  
I have found that the non-genealogists in the family really like the charts and 
graphs of info that we can provide to them whether they are easily produced by 
Legacy or not.

God bless,
Ellen

On Nov 21, 2013, at 7:55 PM, 2marion wimps wrote:

> Thanks Kathy - different strokes for different folks I guess - I have no 
> interest in the number of Given Names and cannot see any situation where I 
> would be - my interest lies with the people, their backgrounds, history and 
> family - and I can easily see how many John's there were in a certain family 
> - finding out that I had several hundred other John's that had no connection 
> to a particular family would not seem to help me. As I said - different 
> strokes.
> Marion
>
>
> On 22 November 2013 08:34, Kathy Thompson  wrote:
> If a person is doing a one name study, and therefore all the surnames are, 
> for example, Johnson, they might like to know how many John Johnson's there 
> are.
>
> Similarly with a one place study, how many people named George lived in that 
> one place.
>
> Yes, they are statistical counts, but then, if you really think about about 
> it, so is the whole realm of family history, it's all about statistics.
> Statistics that build up and when put together in a logical order, form the 
> bones of the story of a person's life.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 November 2013 10:16, 2marion wimps <2wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am struggling to understand why anyone would want a count of people with 
> Given Names - I can understand a count of Surnames but a count of Given Names 
> to me seems purely accountancy fuelled - not Genealogy - perhaps someone 
> could explain the reasoning?
>
> Marion
>
>
> On 21 November 2013 22:17, Brian/Support  wrote:
> Because of the design of the Database you can get easily get that for
> Surnames but not for Forenames. Surnames are stored in a single Master
> Surname List but Given Names are not in a table so Legacy cannot "count"
> occurrences.
>
> To do so for Forenames we would have to parse every Given Name field
> looking for the break between Given Names to Create a list of Forenames.
> We would then have to sort the list and count the duplicates to
> determine how many times John or Jerry are used. This is not impossible
> but it was a statistic report that has never been suggested.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
> Thanks.
>
> On 20/11/2013 6:46 PM, singhals wrote:
> > Is there a GOOD kludge to get a COUNT of each name in the
> > database -- as in, how many SMITH surnames, how many John
> > forenames etc etc?
> >
> > I mean, sure, I can print-to-csv an alpha list, parse it in
> > xcel, and run a count that way, but an older version of a
> > different program /used/ to print me such a list
> > automagically in about 4 keystrokes.
> >
> > Cheryl
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] windows 8 - auto search for photos

2013-11-22 Thread Mike Bridgeford 
Hi Jay – that sounds like a good idea. Where is the “Repair Multi Media Paths’” 
subroutine located. I can’t seem to find it?

Regards,

mike



From: Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
Sent: 22 November 2013 10:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] windows 8 - auto search for photos



You might want to look at using LTools to fix/ solve all your paths with their 
"Repair Multi Media Paths" subroutine.







On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Mike Bridgeford  
wrote:

Hi Ron,

I have had a closer look at the dilemma. When initiating the search for a 
picture using Legacy, the facility hangs at certain points, and the following 
message comes up:-

Individual’s information [2861 say] (not responding)

Find File (not responding)

Legacy Genealogy Software for Windows is not responding.

It never gets to search the D drive!

Reading the help file it indicates that the search facility will progress 
through all files, and not just those specified in the Default location of 
media files.

Is this then a Legacy interface problem with Windows 8?

After a few temporary hang ups the last picture search hung up at-   
C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_pmms003.int_31bf3856ad364e35_6.2. for what this is worth?

Any ideas to solve the problem?

Regards,

mike



From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 21 November 2013 08:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] windows 8 - auto search for photos



Mike,

Strange, I have Win 7 (64 bit) and although not recommended I have Legacy in 
the program files, drive C,
with data, photos etc in a Picture folder on D.

Maybe Legacy 8 will help - when it arrives.


Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

Mike Bridgeford  wrote:

Hi Ron – I have changed the paths in options>customise>locations.

This happens every time. For some reason it will only search windows/C drive.

How can I change the search for picture function to look at the D drive and not 
just the C drive?

There has to be a simple solution – but cant see it!

Regards,

mike





From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 21 November 2013 06:27 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] windows 8 - auto search for photos



Mike,



I am not entirely clear whether you mean every time or just the first time. If 
the latter then I would expect that.



Change the paths in Options>Customise>Locations.



Ron Ferguson

http://www.fergys.co.uk/







From: Mike Bridgeford 

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:50 PM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: [LegacyUG] windows 8 - auto search for photos



I have just purchased a new ISUS Zenbook SSD laptop, and have installed the 
legacy program on the computer.

The computer has a split drive; a ‘C’ drive OS for software and a ‘D’ drive for 
data and storage.

The family files etc all went well and the program was stored on the C drive. I 
put the photographs on the D drive. All my certs. etc are in jpeg format.

When I tried to let the computer search for the picture files, it will not 
automatically search the D drive, where the photos are stored. It looks only at 
the C drive on Windows, and will not search the D drive automatically. I have 
had to load the pictures by manually searching for them on the D drive.

Is there a way to sort this out?



Regards,

Mike



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Re: [LegacyUG] windows 8 - auto search for photos

2013-11-22 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree 
You might want to look at using LTools to fix/ solve all your paths with
their "Repair Multi Media Paths" subroutine.




On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Mike Bridgeford
wrote:

> Hi Ron,
>
> I have had a closer look at the dilemma. When initiating the search for a
> picture using Legacy, the facility hangs at certain points, and the
> following message comes up:-
>
> Individual’s information [2861 say] (not responding)
>
> Find File (not responding)
>
> Legacy Genealogy Software for Windows is not responding.
>
> It never gets to search the D drive!
>
> Reading the help file it indicates that the search facility will progress
> through all files, and not just those specified in the Default location of
> media files.
>
> Is this then a Legacy interface problem with Windows 8?
>
> After a few temporary hang ups the last picture search hung up at-
>  C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_pmms003.int_31bf3856ad364e35_6.2. for what this is
> worth?
>
> Any ideas to solve the problem?
>
> Regards,
>
> mike
>
>
>
> *From:* Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> *Sent:* 21 November 2013 08:33 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] windows 8 - auto search for photos
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Strange, I have Win 7 (64 bit) and although not recommended I have Legacy
> in the program files, drive C,
> with data, photos etc in a Picture folder on D.
>
> Maybe Legacy 8 will help - when it arrives.
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> Mike Bridgeford  wrote:
>
> Hi Ron – I have changed the paths in options>customise>locations.
>
> This happens every time. For some reason it will only search windows/C
> drive.
>
> How can I change the search for picture function to look at the D drive
> and not just the C drive?
>
> There has to be a simple solution – but cant see it!
>
> Regards,
>
> mike
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ron Ferguson 
> [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>
> *Sent:* 21 November 2013 06:27 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] windows 8 - auto search for photos
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
>
>
> I am not entirely clear whether you mean every time or just the first
> time. If the latter then I would expect that.
>
>
>
> Change the paths in Options>Customise>Locations.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Bridgeford 
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:50 PM
>
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] windows 8 - auto search for photos
>
>
>
> I have just purchased a new ISUS Zenbook SSD laptop, and have installed
> the legacy program on the computer.
>
> The computer has a split drive; a ‘C’ drive OS for software and a ‘D’
> drive for data and storage.
>
> The family files etc all went well and the program was stored on the C
> drive. I put the photographs on the D drive. All my certs. etc are in jpeg
> format.
>
> When I tried to let the computer search for the picture files, it will not
> automatically search the D drive, where the photos are stored. It looks
> only at the C drive on Windows, and will not search the D drive
> automatically. I have had to load the pictures by manually searching for
> them on the D drive.
>
> Is there a way to sort this out?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Mike Bridgeford
>
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