date:20131127

Did I mention that I'm getting tired?  It's almost time for me to go to
sleep.  ;-)

I've just re-read the thread below, and I appreciate that the old
single-letter-single-letter shortcuts might not be able to be restored,
that those functions would have to be reassigned to other key
combinations.  I missed you saying that before.  BTW, I just mentioned
the ones I probably use most as an example, I use a lot more - or at
least, I used to.

But they can be relearned, once they're reassigned.  It should not be a
reason to not implement them in the first place.

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Brian/Support said the following on 28/11/2013 3:17 p.m.:
> As I understand it from the programmer's explanation during the beta
> testing, we cannot trap (technical term for capturing for a special
> purpose) standard key presses and pass those on to implement the ribbon
> functions.
>
> Making a suggestion is unlikely to change anything since what you will
> be asking for (if it is the two key commands you want reinstated) is
> impossible. If you want to suggest that those old keyboard commands be
> implemented as Alt-key, Ctrl-key combinations then a suggestion would be
> appropriate.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
> On 27/11/2013 7:15 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
>> Thanks for the quick response, Brian.
>>
>> Your answer is very disappointing, though.  I much prefer keyboard
>> shortcuts to reaching for the mouse or trackpad.
>>
>> This might be a deal-breaker for me.  I'll have to think about it. Quite
>> happy with v7.5, so have no qualms about continuing to use it for now -
>> and my Deluxe customer number for v8 just arrived a few moments ago, so
>> I have a choice to make.
>>
>> I hope there is a plan to restore them (albeit with new key combinations
>> that fit the new ribbon control) in the near future.
>>
>> Would it help if I put in a suggestion through the proper channels?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Wendy
>>
>> Brian/Support said the following on 28/11/2013 12:49 p.m.:
>>> They have gone. One by-product of the change to the Ribbon control we
>>> use in Legacy 8 is that we can no longer use those old two letter
>>> shortcuts and now can only use Function Key, Alt-Key or CTRL-Key
>>> shortcuts as documented in the Help.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> Customer Support
>>> Millennia Corporation
>>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>>
>>> On 27/11/2013 1833, Wendy Howard wrote:
 Where have all the keyboard shortcuts gone?  The list in v8 is
 significantly shorter than the one for v7, and my "old favourites" are
 not working.

 Basics such as Edit Wife (E - W) and Edit Husband (E - H) appear to have
 vanished.  Along with Add Daughter and Add Son, Husband's Parents, even
 the shortcuts to switch between views.

 Am I missing something, or have they gone?

 Wendy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

Sorry Brian, whoever told you that either doesn't know enough to give an
informed answer, or thinks keyboard shortcuts should go in the too-hard
basket and be forgotten about.

Ken and Dave may remember meeting my "other half" Nigel on the 2010
cruise around New Zealand.  He's a software engineer/developer, and has
worked (for instance) on Symantec Ghost from since before Symantec owned
the product until they closed the Auckland R&D office three years ago
and shipped that work to India.  He knows what he's talking about when
it comes to this sort of thing.

He says that keyboard shortcuts are not impossible, you can implement
them when there is a ribbon.  That there are keyboard shortcuts already
in v8 shows it can be done when there is a will.

It might be a big job to write the code to reinstate the ones that have
been "lost" and have them functioning as they should (and maybe reassign
those where it's not practical to use the key combination that was used
before), but it can be done.  It's more a matter of how willing the
developer is, and how much effort can be allowed to be put into the job.

It's not a small issue.  Ask any programmer worth their salt if they
would like writing their code without keyboard shortcuts in their IDE
(integrated development environment), and had to reach for the mouse
instead, each and every time - I'd almost be willing to put money on
that answer.  It's unthinkable.

It's equally unthinkable to me, a person who uses the keyboard without
looking at it and types with all eight fingers, to use Legacy without
keyboard shortcuts.  At least in the long term.

I will be submitting a suggestion for this in a moment, and I recommend
anyone else who is missing keyboard shortcuts to do the same, so the
developers can judge for themselves how important it is to their product.

Kind Regards,

Wendy

PS  Who's bright idea was it to reassign the keyboard shortcut Alt-F4
from the Windows standard "quit program" to "switch to Descendant
view"?  Rhetorical question, I don't want to know the answer.  But it is
just wrong, wrong, wrong (and also proof of what I say above).  Please
restore it to its original purpose asap.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126449

Brian/Support said the following on 28/11/2013 3:17 p.m.:
> As I understand it from the programmer's explanation during the beta
> testing, we cannot trap (technical term for capturing for a special
> purpose) standard key presses and pass those on to implement the ribbon
> functions.
>
> Making a suggestion is unlikely to change anything since what you will
> be asking for (if it is the two key commands you want reinstated) is
> impossible. If you want to suggest that those old keyboard commands be
> implemented as Alt-key, Ctrl-key combinations then a suggestion would be
> appropriate.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
> On 27/11/2013 7:15 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
>> Thanks for the quick response, Brian.
>>
>> Your answer is very disappointing, though.  I much prefer keyboard
>> shortcuts to reaching for the mouse or trackpad.
>>
>> This might be a deal-breaker for me.  I'll have to think about it. Quite
>> happy with v7.5, so have no qualms about continuing to use it for now -
>> and my Deluxe customer number for v8 just arrived a few moments ago, so
>> I have a choice to make.
>>
>> I hope there is a plan to restore them (albeit with new key combinations
>> that fit the new ribbon control) in the near future.
>>
>> Would it help if I put in a suggestion through the proper channels?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Wendy
>>
>> Brian/Support said the following on 28/11/2013 12:49 p.m.:
>>> They have gone. One by-product of the change to the Ribbon control we
>>> use in Legacy 8 is that we can no longer use those old two letter
>>> shortcuts and now can only use Function Key, Alt-Key or CTRL-Key
>>> shortcuts as documented in the Help.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> Customer Support
>>> Millennia Corporation
>>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>>
>>> On 27/11/2013 1833, Wendy Howard wrote:
 Where have all the keyboard shortcuts gone?  The list in v8 is
 significantly shorter than the one for v7, and my "old favourites" are
 not working.

 Basics such as Edit Wife (E - W) and Edit Husband (E - H) appear to have
 vanished.  Along with Add Daughter and Add Son, Husband's Parents, even
 the shortcuts to switch between views.

 Am I missing something, or have they gone?

 Wendy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Customised Directory Structure

  Hello John,

 Thursday, November 28, 2013, 4:17:31 PM, you wrote:

 > David,

> Yes and no.

> One of the security and robustness features of L8 is that it can be
> installed in your Program Files folder. To do that, all of the
> internal files that Legacy manipulates had to be moved to a separate
> folder that windows does not require the user to be operating in
> Administrator mode to manipulate. The user files have been placed in
> a Legacy structure in your My Documents folder.

> You can install Legacy somewhere else but you will be giving up some
> program security. I do not know how Support is going to respond to
> problems when you are not installed as expected.

Ok,  understood,  so  I  might  wait  around  on  this List to see the
comments transpire for a bit before taking the plunge.

> Many of the files in the My Documents structure are "hard-coded" into
> that folder. However, windows does have a facility for moving your My
> Documents elsewhere. I have done this on one PC to put them on a D
> drive partition.

Yes  I'd  thought of it in the past, but not worth considering perhaps
just to suit Legacy and my "living in the past" thinking.

> I have a D drive folder where I collect all of my Family Files. I
> have about 50 in use at any time. I set my option 6.1 to the name of
> that folder so when I want to open a file, it looks there first.

Yep I see that too, and something I need to think about.

I've   never   bothered  that  much  about  the  Windows  7 structure,
particularly the user files in My Documents etc,  which made me stumble
across: 
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/how-move-windows-7-personal-folders-my-documents-another-drive.htm
So maybe that's an option too ?

When I think on this, in reality, perhaps it won't matter
that much as long as an adequate back-up exists, and to be safe in two
remote places.
In  my own case I backup the data files to my Google Drive every time they
change  in  real  time,  and  when the computer turns off I do another
backup  to  an  external  USB3  drive.  It may be a huge backup to the
cloud  for  the  media  files,  but  only  once, and from then on it's
incremental.

> All of this is very easy with Legacy 8.

Thanks John, I'll be on the look-out for future posts on this topic.

Cheers
Dave in Tasmania

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Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving messages

I've lost track of whether this particular post has been replied to or
not  (since the list is kinda busy today and I'm getting tired), but if
someone has, I don't think they mentioned if they were sending a copy
directly to the original poster so we knew if he was seeing it too.  I'm
sending this to both the list and to Joseph.

This is a long-standing problem with this mailing list, that some new
subscribers don't receive the mail.  Please contact
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com so they can make whatever adjustment to
your subscription is needed to fix this problem.

Kind Regards,
Wendy


JV Leavitt said the following on 28/11/2013 3:17 p.m.:
> I see by looking at the list online, that I am not yet receiving them.
> I'll try this to see if my own message gets through to the list anyway.
>
> Joseph Leavitt
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Re: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View marriage status

Try 8.9 in the Customise window - View > Picture of Main Person. Just
above the one that was mentioned in the post to which you replied.  ;-)

Kind Regards,Wendy

Kathy Thompson said the following on 28/11/2013 6:54 p.m.:
> Is there any way to have only the default silhouette displayed
> regardless of if there are other pictures assigned to that person?
>
>
> On 28 November 2013 15:26, John B. Lisle  > wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Check out Option 8.10
>
> john.
>
> At 11:52 PM 11/27/2013, Mike wrote:
> >I'm not seeing the marriage status displayed for couples in the
> Family View
> >in Version 8 (i.e. Divorced, Separated  etc.).
> >
> >Is anyone else experiencing this? Is there some new option I have
> >overlooked?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Mike
>

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RE: [LegacyUG] Search for people above a certain age

You could do a Potential Problems Report with everything deselected except the 
“Warn If Death After” and bring the threshold down to 100.

From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search for people above a certain age

Sue,

That's a good question.
I don't think you can do a search.

You can do it visually in Index View by adding Age at Death as a column.

You can see who is referred to in the Statistics Tool by clicking on the that 
category.

You might put in an enhancement request.

Cathy

At 11:27 AM 28/11/2013, you wrote:

How do I search for people above a certain age in my family file. The new 
statistics report showed that there was someone over 115, which I think may be 
a mistake on my data entry so I would like to search for everyone over 100.

Thanks,

Sue Bramley

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Re: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View marriage status

Is there any way to have only the default silhouette displayed regardless
of if there are other pictures assigned to that person?

On 28 November 2013 15:26, John B. Lisle  wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Check out Option 8.10
>
> john.
>
> At 11:52 PM 11/27/2013, Mike wrote:
> >I'm not seeing the marriage status displayed for couples in the Family
> View
> >in Version 8 (i.e. Divorced, Separated  etc.).
> >
> >Is anyone else experiencing this? Is there some new option I have
> >overlooked?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Mike
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] bookmarks defaulting to Males

Quick bookmarks? the ones down the bottom of the screen? no problems with
those
Only that list of bookmarks from the book icon next to them.
Oh - and the "Home Family" which consistently defaults to my husband yet I
am person number 1 in this file and he has about 20 relations in this tree
whereas I have 7000 relations (he's had no interest in his heritage, so
I've been slow in getting data)

As for what time my order got taken in Mountain time? August 5th 2013 -
wonder where that places me in the list given that people who purchased in
the last two days already have theirs.
At least I do know that I do qualify for the free update based on my
purchase date.

Have done about all I can with the Customisation - anything more there and
I need the Deluxe version apparently
I want my ancestor colours back, I NEED my 9 tags back, and I need the
ability to print PDF reports, and I want to keep working on standardising
all my locations - all of which need Deluxe.
Yes, I'm starting to lose patience, but this is what I do for 12 hours a
day 7 days a week, so I am bored out of my brain here not able to do
anything that I need to do.
I am actually sitting here twiddling my thumbs - and yes Sherry, they are
sore.

On 28 November 2013 14:50, John B. Lisle  wrote:

> Kathy,
>
> I am not seeing this with Quick Bookmarks, but you seem to be correct
> for Regular Bookmarks. However, it would appear that Regular
> bookmarks are book marking couples, not individuals so highlighting
> the male may just be a convention.
>
> You are free to submit a suggestion. ;-)
>
> john.
>
> PS: If the processing is going out by time received, folks have to
> take into account, what time their order would have been taken in
> Mountain Time.
>
> To assure you there is no favoritism, I am also still waiting for my
> Customer number. Thankfully, I still have the number we got to use
> for the testing. ;-)
>
> You can use this time to learn all of the intricacies of the new
> Customization and the new Media tools: Media Gallery, Gather Media,
> and Media Relinker. These are standard feature tools that are brand
> new and very powerful.
>
> At 10:52 PM 11/27/2013, Kathy Thompson wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Just wondering please, is there a way to get the bookmarks to
> >actually record and keep in mind which person of a couple was being
> bookmarked?
> >
> >I've bookmarked a number of women in my tree, yet Each and Every
> >time I click their bookmark, it goes to the marriage for the
> >bookmark but sits on the male, not the female.
> >
> >If I wanted to bookmark the male I would have bookmarked him.
> >
> >This isn't new to L8, it was there in L7.5 as well but it's annoyed
> >me enough now and I'd like to know how to fix it (if possible)
> >
> >Thanks
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View marriage status

Mike,

Check out Option 8.10

john.

At 11:52 PM 11/27/2013, Mike wrote:
>I'm not seeing the marriage status displayed for couples in the Family View
>in Version 8 (i.e. Divorced, Separated  etc.).
>
>Is anyone else experiencing this? Is there some new option I have
>overlooked?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Customised Directory Structure

David,

Yes and no.

One of the security and robustness features of L8 is that it can be
installed in your Program Files folder. To do that, all of the
internal files that Legacy manipulates had to be moved to a separate
folder that windows does not require the user to be operating in
Administrator mode to manipulate. The user files have been placed in
a Legacy structure in your My Documents folder.

You can install Legacy somewhere else but you will be giving up some
program security. I do not know how Support is going to respond to
problems when you are not installed as expected.

Many of the files in the My Documents structure are "hard-coded" into
that folder. However, windows does have a facility for moving your My
Documents elsewhere. I have done this on one PC to put them on a D
drive partition.

I have a D drive folder where I collect all of my Family Files. I
have about 50 in use at any time. I set my option 6.1 to the name of
that folder so when I want to open a file, it looks there first.

As I use TNG, I sort my media for each family file into folders under
\media\ in the Family file folder that match where I put the media
when I upload to TNG.

As a result, I need to go to the My Documents folder only when trying
to do testing stuff. The program is in Program files on my C drive
and my data (FF & Media & gedcoms etc) are in a Legacy Family Files folder.

All of this is very easy with Legacy 8.

john.

At 11:38 PM 11/27/2013, David Cripps wrote:
>Like most Legacy users I've downloaded version 8 to take a peek and
>a test drive.
>
>One thing that has occurred to me straight away, and it is a
>question I haven't seen asked as yet.
>
>Can  I  have  the  install done so that the entire directory structure
>exists under C:\Legacy8, data files and all ?
>
>I like to have everything in the one place if possible and I've been
>very comfortable with it like
>this on many previous versions, particularly version 7.5.
>
>Thanks
>Dave Cripps in Tasmania
>
>
>
>
>  --
>  David Cripps,  Tasmania 
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View marriage status

2013-11-27 Thread Mike

That took care of it.

Thanks,
Mike

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From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View marriage status

Options->Customize->8.10 Show Status on Family View
 Includes options for displaying Marriage Status and Child Status (Twin, 
etc)

-Original Message-
From: Mike [mailto:genealo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:53 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View marriage status

I'm not seeing the marriage status displayed for couples in the Family View in 
Version 8 (i.e. Divorced, Separated  etc.).

Is anyone else experiencing this? Is there some new option I have overlooked?

Thanks,
Mike

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RE: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View marriage status

Options->Customize->8.10 Show Status on Family View
 Includes options for displaying Marriage Status and Child Status (Twin, 
etc)

-Original Message-
From: Mike [mailto:genealo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:53 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View marriage status

I'm not seeing the marriage status displayed for couples in the Family View in 
Version 8 (i.e. Divorced, Separated  etc.).

Is anyone else experiencing this? Is there some new option I have overlooked?

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [LegacyUG] bookmarks defaulting to Males

Kathy,

I am not seeing this with Quick Bookmarks, but you seem to be correct
for Regular Bookmarks. However, it would appear that Regular
bookmarks are book marking couples, not individuals so highlighting
the male may just be a convention.

You are free to submit a suggestion. ;-)

john.

PS: If the processing is going out by time received, folks have to
take into account, what time their order would have been taken in
Mountain Time.

To assure you there is no favoritism, I am also still waiting for my
Customer number. Thankfully, I still have the number we got to use
for the testing. ;-)

You can use this time to learn all of the intricacies of the new
Customization and the new Media tools: Media Gallery, Gather Media,
and Media Relinker. These are standard feature tools that are brand
new and very powerful.

At 10:52 PM 11/27/2013, Kathy Thompson wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Just wondering please, is there a way to get the bookmarks to
>actually record and keep in mind which person of a couple was being bookmarked?
>
>I've bookmarked a number of women in my tree, yet Each and Every
>time I click their bookmark, it goes to the marriage for the
>bookmark but sits on the male, not the female.
>
>If I wanted to bookmark the male I would have bookmarked him.
>
>This isn't new to L8, it was there in L7.5 as well but it's annoyed
>me enough now and I'd like to know how to fix it (if possible)
>
>Thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?



Bryan,
I do not know if you are one who is adding a lot of media to your Family
Files, but the new tools for media are going to make life much easier
dealing with any media.
Start by setting 6.2 to define for each family file what folder you want
to use as your default folder for media.
Then check out the tools Gather Media and Media Relinker. Some folks used
those tools to find photos buried who knows where on their PC and move
them into organized folders to make moving your family file from one
computer to another a dream. And the Media Galleries where you add new
media to your family file have much more functionality. 
I was able to add 100s of media to my Family File in an afternoon.

This is just one of the features we gained with the new user
interface.
john.

At 11:03 PM 11/27/2013, Bryan Pratt wrote:
Tut, tut, Ron. Do you begrudge
the work (as a software/web man) spent by many on any work as
âmere additional functionsâ? You seem to be damning with faint
praise. 
Quote: âAs it is, V8.0 does give this, especially with Event Sharing,
the return of the 5 sourcing 
options, the loss of which was lamented by many of us, the improved
Family 
Search option (although I recognise the caveats with family trees) and I

really do like the new design options, and much more.â
Thatâs err, 4+ reasons I think, at last count, that you might want to
part out a few pounds.
Bryan in NZ

Sent from Windows Mail
From: Ron
Ferguson
Sent: âThursdayâ, âNovemberâ â28â, â2013
â4â:â59â âAM
To:
Legacy
Carl,
Whilst I agree with your praise for the Legacy program, and I am sure
that 
Legacy will be delighted with your undoubted loyalty, you have not given
me 
one reason why I would spend money to upgrade.
For me, I need to see technical improvements, and/or, additional
functions 
which I need - not the same as mere additional functions!! As it is, V8.0

does give this, especially with Event Sharing, the return of the 5
sourcing 
options, the loss of which was lamented by many of us, the improved
Family 
Search option (although I recognise the caveats with family trees) and I

really do like the new design options, and much more.
Are there things which I would have liked which are not there? Sure but

there is sufficient there to raise my interest.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


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[LegacyUG] V8 Family View marriage status

2013-11-27 Thread Mike

I'm not seeing the marriage status displayed for couples in the Family View
in Version 8 (i.e. Divorced, Separated  etc.).

Is anyone else experiencing this? Is there some new option I have
overlooked?

Thanks,
Mike




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[LegacyUG] Customised Directory Structure

Like most Legacy users I've downloaded version 8 to take a peek and a test 
drive.

One thing that has occurred to me straight away, and it is a question I haven't 
seen asked as yet.

Can  I  have  the  install done so that the entire directory structure
exists under C:\Legacy8, data files and all ?

I like to have everything in the one place if possible and I've been very 
comfortable with it like
this on many previous versions, particularly version 7.5.

Thanks
Dave Cripps in Tasmania




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[LegacyUG] Directory structure

Title: Directory structure


Like most Legacy users I've downloaded version 8 to take a peek and a test drive.

One thing that has occurred to me straight away, and it is a question I haven't seen asked as yet.

Can I have the install done so that the entire directory structure exists under C:\Legacy8 ?

I like to have everything in the one place if possible and I've been very comfortable with it like this on previous many versions, particularly version 7.5.

Thanks
Dave Cripps in Tasmania




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[LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Deluxe Run-time Error 91

2013-11-27 Thread Terri Brown

Figures. Everything seemed to be working fine yesterday. Today I got an "Error 
91: Object variable or With block variable not set." I had to manually remove 
Legacy 7.5 because it would not uninstall. Then I opened Legacy 8 and played 
with some of the new features but did not change any information in the open 
database. I closed Legacy and received the first "Error 91 . . ." message 
during the close. I tried to open the same database again, same error message 
opening the file. Could not open the file. Legacy will not open ANY database. 
Tried to uninstall Legacy 8 through the control panel but it would not 
uninstall. Deleted the Legacy 8 folder from Program Files (x86) and reinstalled 
through the download. Legacy still won't open and I still get the Error 91 
message each time - no matter which database I try to open. Then I tried System 
Restore and the entire fiasco started all over again.

The Legacy help on the website does not cover Error 91 for Legacy 8 so I tried 
adapting the Legacy 7 instructions. No change. Of course I can't open Legacy at 
all so I can't perform Check/Repair.

This is on a Win7 Pro 64-bit custom-built desktop with more than enough hard 
drive space and RAM. I'm using Legacy 8 Deluxe. I've tried turning off all 
anti-virus, firewall, backup and sync programs. Tried restarting, shutting down 
and turning back on, replacing the database with a backup copy - nothing 
changes. I've tried at least 5 different databases. None open and I get the 
same Error 91 message each time.

Everything works just fine on my Win8 convertible tablet so I don't think it's 
the database files. I'm thinking I messed up something big time when I manually 
removed either Legacy 7.5 or Legacy 8 or both. But it could also be the 
software gremlins at work.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. While I love my tablet, it's a pain to 
really work on my genealogy on it.

Thanks in advance,
Terri



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Subscription

I wonder if it’s not time that Support sorted this problem. There are probably 
thousands of mailing lists working perfectly well. By this hiccupping along 
Legacy is denying assistance to many people. I’ve had the same problem 
negotiating subscriptions, and frankly in this modern day and age it shouldn’t 
be a saga that it presently is.

Bryan

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From: Glenn Staff
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎November‎ ‎28‎, ‎2013 ‎2‎:‎03‎ ‎PM
To: Legacy

All sorted now.. thanks for the help everyone.

Cheers,
Glenn

On 28 Nov 2013, at 11:58 am, Kurt Kneeland  wrote:

> Glenn
>
> A lot of us have had this problem getting started with the user group.  You 
> need to email supp...@legacyfamilytree.com and request that they reset your 
> Legacy User Group account for the email you want to use.  You might also ask 
> them to delete the others that you aren't going to use.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Glenn Staff [mailto:gl...@staff.id.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:07 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Subscription
>
> Hi,
> I�m hoping you can help me.  I have successfully subscribed a number of time 
> to the Legacy User Group mailing list. Unfortunately, each time I have 
> subscribed I never receive any emails from the group even though I know that 
> there are plenty of messages (checked on the web).
> There are no messages in my junk or spam folder and I have even set my spam 
> settings down low just to make sure.
>
> I am using this current email address to subscribe to the list 
> (gl...@staff.id.au)
>
> Regards,
> Glenn Staff
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

Hello Bryan,

Thursday, November 28, 2013, 2:53:41 PM, you wrote:

> I agree. Well summed up, Carl.
> I’m afraid we’ve moved into an age in Internet history when people now expect 
> everything for nothing. I’m happy to pay such a paltry amount for this 
> upgrade (for me in New Zealand, it’s probably half the buying power). I 
> bought my de Luxe edition, in I think 2008, so this major upgrade, > > let 
> alone the usual minor upgrades, has cost me around US$4 a year.
> Long may it continue to thrive.
> Bryan in NZ

I agree too Bryan, and in the end unless a fellow moves with the times we'd be 
stuck with old technology;  Who'd like to go back to the DOS days is the best 
way I can explain it.

The one thing that keeps me plodding away on this hobby is the thought that one 
day my children will show a glimmer of interest, or maybe my grandchildren, and 
when they do, hopefully I'll have something up to date that I can show them.

Having said all that I'm still happy to sit back for a while and watch the List 
to see what transpires before the cash parts company with my wallet.

Thanks for the posts though
Dave in Tasmania

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RE: [LegacyUG] Change font color of male and female names in Index et al.

Options->Change Colors, then click down in the children area.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Change font color of male and female names in Index et al.

I find the reference to this in the Help index but cannot find the specific 
place to change those colors.  ??

Virginia

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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

Tut, tut, Ron. Do you begrudge the work (as a software/web man) spent by many 
on any work as “mere additional functions”? You seem to be damning with faint 
praise.

Quote: “As it is, V8.0 does give this, especially with Event Sharing, the 
return of the 5 sourcing
options, the loss of which was lamented by many of us, the improved Family
Search option (although I recognise the caveats with family trees) and I
really do like the new design options, and much more.”

That’s err, 4+ reasons I think, at last count, that you might want to part out 
a few pounds.


Bryan in NZ







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From: Ron Ferguson
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎November‎ ‎28‎, ‎2013 ‎4‎:‎59‎ ‎AM
To: Legacy





Carl,

Whilst I agree with your praise for the Legacy program, and I am sure that
Legacy will be delighted with your undoubted loyalty, you have not given me
one reason why I would spend money to upgrade.

For me, I need to see technical improvements, and/or, additional functions
which I need - not the same as mere additional functions!! As it is, V8.0
does give this, especially with Event Sharing, the return of the 5 sourcing
options, the loss of which was lamented by many of us, the improved Family
Search option (although I recognise the caveats with family trees) and I
really do like the new design options, and much more.

Are there things which I would have liked which are not there? Sure but
there is sufficient there to raise my interest.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

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Re: [LegacyUG] Change font color of male and female names in Index et al.

Hi Virginia,

Options Ribbon - Colour Change.

The Index names take the same colours for male and female as on
Family View - Child List.

I don't think you can set them on Index View.

Cathy

At 11:34 AM 28/11/2013, you wrote:
>I find the reference to this in the Help index but cannot find the
>specific place to change those colors.  ??
>
>Virginia

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Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

I agree. Well summed up, Carl.

I’m afraid we’ve moved into an age in Internet history when people now expect 
everything for nothing. I’m happy to pay such a paltry amount for this upgrade 
(for me in New Zealand, it’s probably half the buying power). I bought my de 
Luxe edition, in I think 2008, so this major upgrade, let alone the usual minor 
upgrades, has cost me around US$4 a year.

Long may it continue to thrive.

Bryan in NZ






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From: Carl Cox
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎November‎ ‎28‎, ‎2013 ‎3‎:‎08‎ ‎AM
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<< So far I can see very little reason to upgrade.>>

Legacy provides the best genealogy database I know of, and they ask so
little of me. They provide the free version for those who cannot afford
expensive software. They respond to our pleas for help. And I feel they
should be paid for their efforts.

Other programs update more often, and at higher prices. We get continual
free updates. The price for the upgrade is about like taking your family to
McDonalds. I think that years of excellent software is worth more than
McDonalds.

I could probably come up with more reasons.

So, although my resources are limited, and I don't go to McDonalds, I do
upgrade each time it is available.

Carl

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Re: [LegacyUG] Search for people above a certain age

Sue,
That's a good question.
I don't think you can do a search.
You can do it visually in Index View by adding Age at Death as a
column.
You can see who is referred to in the Statistics Tool by clicking on the
that category.
You might put in an enhancement request.
Cathy
At 11:27 AM 28/11/2013, you wrote:
How do I search for people above
a certain age in my family file. The new statistics report showed that
there was someone over 115, which I think may be a mistake on my data
entry so I would like to search for everyone over 100.
Thanks,

Sue Bramley

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Re: [LegacyUG] Ordering v8: manual or Geoff's book?

yes well
organising paperwork means printing pdf reports of what I need to deal with
- can't do that without Deluxe *grin*

On 28 November 2013 13:50, Sherry/Support wrote:

> Don't twiddle too much - you don't want to develop thumb arthritis!
> Now would be a good time to organize your paperwork .
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Kathy Thompson 
> wrote:
> > Thanks Sherry.
> >
> > (Can I be cheeky and ask for my v8 customer number as reward?)
> >
> > thumbs are still twiddling though, so I'm still waiting patiently
> >
> > **grin**
> >
> >
>
>
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[LegacyUG] bookmarks defaulting to Males

Hi all,

Just wondering please, is there a way to get the bookmarks to actually
record and keep in mind which person of a couple was being bookmarked?

I've bookmarked a number of women in my tree, yet Each and Every time I
click their bookmark, it goes to the marriage for the bookmark but sits on
the male, not the female.

If I wanted to bookmark the male I would have bookmarked him.

This isn't new to L8, it was there in L7.5 as well but it's annoyed me
enough now and I'd like to know how to fix it (if possible)

Thanks



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Re: [LegacyUG] Ordering v8: manual or Geoff's book?

Don't twiddle too much - you don't want to develop thumb arthritis!
Now would be a good time to organize your paperwork .

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Kathy Thompson  wrote:
> Thanks Sherry.
>
> (Can I be cheeky and ask for my v8 customer number as reward?)
>
> thumbs are still twiddling though, so I'm still waiting patiently
>
> **grin**
>
>

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[LegacyUG] Change font color of male and female names in Index et al.

2013-11-27 Thread Virginia Blakelock

I find the reference to this in the Help index but cannot find the
specific place to change those colors.  ??

Virginia



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[LegacyUG] Search for people above a certain age

2013-11-27 Thread Susan Bramley

How do I search for people above a certain age in my family file. The new
statistics report showed that there was someone over 115, which I think may
be a mistake on my data entry so I would like to search for everyone over
100.

Thanks,


Sue Bramley



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Re: [LegacyUG] Ordering v8: manual or Geoff's book?

Thanks Sherry.

(Can I be cheeky and ask for my v8 customer number as reward?)

thumbs are still twiddling though, so I'm still waiting patiently

**grin**


On 28 November 2013 13:25, Sherry/Support wrote:

> Try the one on the Legacy home page where it says "Click Here to see
> the video tour" - it's on the left side of the page, just a jaunt down
> from the picture of the Legacy box.
>
> Thanks for letting me know - I've passed it on to the webmaster.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Kathy Thompson 
> wrote:
> > Sherry, can you please check the links for both of those videos?
> > I looks at them earlier and the two videos appears identical and both
> links
> > appeared to be pointing to the same video - the Legacy for Beginners one.
> > I'd very much like to see the What's new in Legacy 8 video.
> >
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ordering v8: manual or Geoff's book?

Try the one on the Legacy home page where it says "Click Here to see
the video tour" - it's on the left side of the page, just a jaunt down
from the picture of the Legacy box.

Thanks for letting me know - I've passed it on to the webmaster.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Kathy Thompson  wrote:
> Sherry, can you please check the links for both of those videos?
> I looks at them earlier and the two videos appears identical and both links
> appeared to be pointing to the same video - the Legacy for Beginners one.
> I'd very much like to see the What's new in Legacy 8 video.
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Extra icon for "Add Person"

Yes I have two icons as well. If you remove them (Design (top right) My 
Toolbar) they disappear. Re-add one icon using the reverse process and they 
both return. Although they have different ‘hover’ descriptions. (de Luxe).

Bryan






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From: Richard Van Wasshnova
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎November‎ ‎28‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎46‎ ‎AM
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My iconic menu bar has 2 identical icons for "Add Person" except the first has 
no drop down menu so is unusable. (Win 8 standard) I don't see a way to remove 
the useless icon.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Ordering v8: manual or Geoff's book?

Sherry, can you please check the links for both of those videos?
I looks at them earlier and the two videos appears identical and both links
appeared to be pointing to the same video - the Legacy for Beginners one.
I'd very much like to see the What's new in Legacy 8 video.

On 28 November 2013 13:10, Sherry/Support wrote:

> The "Legacy Family Tree . Unlocked" book is a compilation of the
> "Watch Geoff Live" webinars, in printed form of course. It was updated
> for v8.
>
> The Legacy User's Guide is just that - a manual.
>
> You can get either one in PDF format, which is very easily searched.
>
> The Legacy Help files are excellent, detailed and continually updated.
>
> There are a couple of videos on the Legacy website
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > Training > View Training Videos which are
> excellent and will help you get started with Legacy v8 -
>
> "Legacy for Beginners" and "What's New in Legacy 8.0?"
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:59 PM, julia m  wrote:
> > I'm getting ready to order my v8. Should I order the bundled version with
> > the manual or instead order Geoff's book? I just don't want to order
> both if
> > they overlap or are the same material.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Julia
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ordering v8: manual or Geoff's book?

Sherry, can you please check the links for both of those videos?
I looks at them earlier and the two videos appears identical and both links
appeared to be pointing to the same video - the Legacy for Beginners one.
I'd very much like to see the What's new in Legacy 8 video.

On 28 November 2013 13:10, Sherry/Support wrote:

> The "Legacy Family Tree . Unlocked" book is a compilation of the
> "Watch Geoff Live" webinars, in printed form of course. It was updated
> for v8.
>
> The Legacy User's Guide is just that - a manual.
>
> You can get either one in PDF format, which is very easily searched.
>
> The Legacy Help files are excellent, detailed and continually updated.
>
> There are a couple of videos on the Legacy website
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > Training > View Training Videos which are
> excellent and will help you get started with Legacy v8 -
>
> "Legacy for Beginners" and "What's New in Legacy 8.0?"
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:59 PM, julia m  wrote:
> > I'm getting ready to order my v8. Should I order the bundled version with
> > the manual or instead order Geoff's book? I just don't want to order
> both if
> > they overlap or are the same material.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Julia
> >
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View

2013-11-27 Thread Paul Gray

Cathy/Sherry,

Thanks for the tip on minimizing the ribbon! It really does make a difference 
to the screen fonts, and I can still use right click for some actions and 
display the ribbon only when required. Problem solved!

Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: November-27-13 8:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View

Paul,

The first thing I did was to minimze the Ribbon bar - you'll find that makes a 
*big* difference in the font sizes.

Right click on the menu (where the ribbon names are) and select "Minimize the 
Ribbon"

If that helps, go to Options > Customize and in option 1.4, select "Start with 
ribbon minimized".

The option on the interface is temporary.

Another thing you can do is click on Design (upper right corner), select Font 
and then select Large or Extra Large.  That enlarges the buttons on the ribbon 
bar.

But you'll find just having the ribbon bar minimized makes a world of 
difference. When you click on a tab, the ribbon drops down over the Parents and 
you can select your options.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Paul Gray  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm struggling to configure Family View to give me the same 'large fonts'
> that I was able to get in V7. I am using the same settings in both V7
> and V8. In Screen Fonts, Data is set Verdana 10 pt, Labels to Arial 10
> pt, “stretch fonts when resizing is checked”, and min font size is 10,
> max font size 99.
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View

2013-11-27 Thread Leonard Johnson

Thanks Sherry.  Guess I forgot to give that a try earlier.
I like the way it works and will now use that function. [?]

Leonard Johnson-Källbom
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We are helping change the world of genealogy !

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Sherry/Support  wrote:

> Paul,
>
> The first thing I did was to minimze the Ribbon bar - you'll find that
> makes a *big* difference in the font sizes.
>
> Right click on the menu (where the ribbon names are) and select
> "Minimize the Ribbon"
>
> If that helps, go to Options > Customize and in option 1.4, select
> "Start with ribbon minimized".
>
> The option on the interface is temporary.
>
> Another thing you can do is click on Design (upper right corner),
> select Font and then select Large or Extra Large.  That enlarges the
> buttons on the ribbon bar.
>
> But you'll find just having the ribbon bar minimized makes a world of
> difference. When you click on a tab, the ribbon drops down over the
> Parents and you can select your options.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Paul Gray  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm struggling to configure Family View to give me the same 'large fonts'
> > that I was able to get in V7. I am using the same settings in both V7 and
> > V8. In Screen Fonts, Data is set Verdana 10 pt, Labels to Arial 10 pt,
> > “stretch fonts when resizing is checked”, and min font size is 10, max
> font
> > size 99.
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ordering v8: manual or Geoff's book?

The "Legacy Family Tree . Unlocked" book is a compilation of the
"Watch Geoff Live" webinars, in printed form of course. It was updated
for v8.

The Legacy User's Guide is just that - a manual.

You can get either one in PDF format, which is very easily searched.

The Legacy Help files are excellent, detailed and continually updated.

There are a couple of videos on the Legacy website
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > Training > View Training Videos which are
excellent and will help you get started with Legacy v8 -

"Legacy for Beginners" and "What's New in Legacy 8.0?"

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:59 PM, julia m  wrote:
> I'm getting ready to order my v8. Should I order the bundled version with
> the manual or instead order Geoff's book? I just don't want to order both if
> they overlap or are the same material.
>
> Thank you!
> Julia
>

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[LegacyUG] Ordering v8: manual or Geoff's book?

2013-11-27 Thread julia m

I'm getting ready to order my v8. Should I order the bundled version with the 
manual or instead order Geoff's book? I just don't want to order both if they 
overlap or are the same material.
Thank you!Julia


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Re: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View

Paul,

The first thing I did was to minimze the Ribbon bar - you'll find that
makes a *big* difference in the font sizes.

Right click on the menu (where the ribbon names are) and select
"Minimize the Ribbon"

If that helps, go to Options > Customize and in option 1.4, select
"Start with ribbon minimized".

The option on the interface is temporary.

Another thing you can do is click on Design (upper right corner),
select Font and then select Large or Extra Large.  That enlarges the
buttons on the ribbon bar.

But you'll find just having the ribbon bar minimized makes a world of
difference. When you click on a tab, the ribbon drops down over the
Parents and you can select your options.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Paul Gray  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm struggling to configure Family View to give me the same 'large fonts'
> that I was able to get in V7. I am using the same settings in both V7 and
> V8. In Screen Fonts, Data is set Verdana 10 pt, Labels to Arial 10 pt,
> “stretch fonts when resizing is checked”, and min font size is 10, max font
> size 99.
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] V8 Family View

Hi Paul,
You  CAN do something about the Ribbon. There's a little arrow on the
right which minimises the ribbon. Click on the a Ribbon header and
the Ribbon pops up until you've chosen the function you want and then
disappears again.

You can also customise the Quick Access Toolbar top left. You do this
by clicking on the Design on the right of the Ribbon, then Toolbar.
You may need to close and re-open Legacy to see your selections.
There's a Maximum of 10 icons that can permanently be placed on the
Quick Access Toolbar.  Other icons can be added for the session by
right clicking on them in a Ribbon and choosing to add to the Quick
Access Toolbar.

You may want to increase your minimum font.

Some of the issues where it appears to us there's more room for
things relate to Legacy being international and some languages
requiring more room.

Legacy 8 does not always resize correctly when you change window
size. If this happens for you, just resize it again slightly and
things should pop back to normal for that window size.

Cathy

At 10:27 AM 28/11/2013, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm struggling to configure Family View to give me the same 'large
>fonts' that I was able to get in V7. I am using the same settings in
>both V7 and V8. In Screen Fonts, Data is set Verdana 10 pt, Labels
>to Arial 10 pt, "stretch fonts when resizing is checked", and min
>font size is 10, max font size 99.
>
>The names, dates, and location data displayed in Family View are
>significantly smaller in V8, I estimate 2-3 pts.
>
>Some reasons:
>
>1.  The new ribbon takes up more space than the old toolbar.
>
>2.  In the Parents boxes at the top, a line has been added with the
>word Parents with a plus sign on the right to add parents. This
>takes up one third of the available space. If that wasn't there,
>there would literally be 50% more space to stretch the fonts for the
>parents names.
>
>3.  In the Husband and Wife boxes, there is a fair amount of white
>space under the names. The names themselves have a very similar size
>to V7, but the extra white space below (with FS arrows if turned
>on), leave less real estate for the vital events below.
>
>4.  In the children section, there is the title "Children" with icon
>to the right to access the functions we used to right click to
>access (e.g. child sorting). Not really sure why this results in
>smaller fonts as they did take away one child line ( now 4 vs. 5) to
>accommodate the 'title' line.
>
>I'm sure there is nothing I can do about the ribbon, that's just the
>way things are. But, are there any options to otherwise change the
>elements of family view so that I could get bigger fonts.
>
>
>I don't think this is a show-stopper, but one of the things I liked
>about Legacy V7 was how I could get large easy to read screen fonts.
>They have certainly maintained the ability to have a variable font
>size to take advantage of large monitors, but the putting additional
>'titles' and white space on the screen has effectively reduced the
>font size of names, dates and locations.
>
>Hoping there is some setting I can tweak, if not I will live with it.
>
>Paul Gray
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 8 - How to save Statistics data

Did that 6-7 months ago.

Wm Voss

On 27-Nov-13 6:08 PM, Larry Lee wrote:
>
> Wm,Ã‚  Jay, et al,
>
> Good ideas coming from several users already.Ã‚  Submit your
> enhancement ideas from the Home Page as they may not get picked up
> from the list due to volume.
>
> Larry Lee
>
> On Nov 27, 2013 6:57 PM, "Wm Voss"  > wrote:
>
> You can download pdf2html from SourceForge (free, open source).
> Drop the pdf on the .exe and it generates the pages. Theupside is
> that youhave all the data in place; the bad is that the table
> structure is lost because of the pdf coding, so you will have to
> do that yourself -- not too odious if you have a good editor and
> some talent for regular expression search and replace.
>
> Its just a shame the report doesn't start with a blank slate and
> allow you to choose what statisticsyou want instead of deselecting
> all the stuff you don't.
>
> Wm Voss
>
> On 27-Nov-13 5:44 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
>> Thanks,ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
>> Not sure why I missed that at first glance...
>>
>> But still would be nice to export/print to an .htmlÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
>>
>> JayÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Wm Voss
>> mailto:bellafort...@earthlink.net>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Statistic Report (Reports/Other), run preview and then select
>> PDF to save.
>>
>> Wm Voss
>>
>> On 27-Nov-13 4:30 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
>>> I really like the new Statistics
>>> data.ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€ 
>>> Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
>>>
>>> But I would like to save this info in some
>>> format,ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€ 
>>> Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
>>> preferably as an .html document that I can enhance my web
>>> site pages with.ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€ 
>>> Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
>>>
>>> But even saving the data to a .pdf would be
>>> ok.ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€ 
>>> Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
>>>
>>> Also if the stat is in reference to a particular person
>>> (longest lived, etc) the name of the person should be
>>> included in the saved document.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> JayÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€ 
>>> Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard Shortcuts

People were asking for a more up-to-date look. What's more
contemporary than the ribbon bar that seems to be standard these days?

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:41 PM, JV Leavitt  wrote:
> If ribbon control eliminates keyboard shortcuts, then the solution is
> simple -- Eliminate ribbon control!   Way too much is being sacrificed
> for what looks to me like nothing more than a fashion thing.  I am
> discovering to my dismay that there is a list of things that are worse
> in this version -- the top one on the list being the loss of keyboard
> shortcuts, but that is not on the list all by itself.
>
> Maybe we are victims of marketing directives.  Does "Ribbon Bar" sound
> cool, or something?
>
> Joseph Leavitt

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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 8 - How to save Statistics data

Forgot that, but it is bad screen design, nonetheless. There is a mile
of empty real estate below the list for a tag all/ untag all button
--which is not, strictly speaking, an "option." But so it goes with V8,
as we both know.

Wm Voss

On 27-Nov-13 6:05 PM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
> Wm,
>
> The options allow you to clear all tags. So you can quickly get to
> your blank slate
>
> Cathy
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard Shortcuts

2013-11-27 Thread Ron Bernier

Sorry JV Leavitt, I realize some folks lived by keyboard shortcuts, but
there are a lot of us that do not/did not.  Obviously, "Ribbon Bar" is
offensive to you, but some of us, myself being one of them prefer the new
ribbon bar.  I would not want to see the new ribbon control eliminated.
Sometimes we need to learn to live with change.

Ron Bernier

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM, JV Leavitt  wrote:

> If ribbon control eliminates keyboard shortcuts, then the solution is
> simple -- Eliminate ribbon control!   Way too much is being sacrificed
> for what looks to me like nothing more than a fashion thing.  I am
> discovering to my dismay that there is a list of things that are worse
> in this version -- the top one on the list being the loss of keyboard
> shortcuts, but that is not on the list all by itself.
>
> Maybe we are victims of marketing directives.  Does "Ribbon Bar" sound
> cool, or something?
>
> Joseph Leavitt
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard Shortcuts

2013-11-27 Thread JV Leavitt

If ribbon control eliminates keyboard shortcuts, then the solution is
simple -- Eliminate ribbon control!   Way too much is being sacrificed
for what looks to me like nothing more than a fashion thing.  I am
discovering to my dismay that there is a list of things that are worse
in this version -- the top one on the list being the loss of keyboard
shortcuts, but that is not on the list all by itself.

Maybe we are victims of marketing directives.  Does "Ribbon Bar" sound
cool, or something?

Joseph Leavitt





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[LegacyUG] V8 Family View

2013-11-27 Thread Paul Gray

Hi,



I'm struggling to configure Family View to give me the same 'large fonts'
that I was able to get in V7. I am using the same settings in both V7 and
V8. In Screen Fonts, Data is set Verdana 10 pt, Labels to Arial 10 pt,
"stretch fonts when resizing is checked", and min font size is 10, max font
size 99.



The names, dates, and location data displayed in Family View are
significantly smaller in V8, I estimate 2-3 pts.



Some reasons:



1.  The new ribbon takes up more space than the old toolbar.



2.  In the Parents boxes at the top, a line has been added with the word
Parents with a plus sign on the right to add parents. This takes up one
third of the available space. If that wasn't there, there would literally be
50% more space to stretch the fonts for the parents names.



3.  In the Husband and Wife boxes, there is a fair amount of white space
under the names. The names themselves have a very similar size to V7, but
the extra white space below (with FS arrows if turned on), leave less real
estate for the vital events below.



4.  In the children section, there is the title "Children" with icon to the
right to access the functions we used to right click to access (e.g. child
sorting). Not really sure why this results in smaller fonts as they did take
away one child line ( now 4 vs. 5) to accommodate the 'title' line.



I'm sure there is nothing I can do about the ribbon, that's just the way
things are. But, are there any options to otherwise change the elements of
family view so that I could get bigger fonts.





I don't think this is a show-stopper, but one of the things I liked about
Legacy V7 was how I could get large easy to read screen fonts. They have
certainly maintained the ability to have a variable font size to take
advantage of large monitors, but the putting additional 'titles' and white
space on the screen has effectively reduced the font size of names, dates
and locations.



Hoping there is some setting I can tweak, if not I will live with it.



Paul Gray




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Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving messages

your message got to the list.

If you are having problems contact Legacy directly as per a previous message
[LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Subscription by Glenn Staff

It is a known issue that has apparently been known about for years.

On 28 November 2013 12:17, JV Leavitt  wrote:

>
> I see by looking at the list online, that I am not yet receiving them.
> I'll try this to see if my own message gets through to the list anyway.
>
> Joseph Leavitt
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving messages

2013-11-27 Thread Leonard Johnson

Your message got through to the list.

Leonard Johnson-Källbom
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>
> I see by looking at the list online, that I am not yet receiving them.
> I'll try this to see if my own message gets through to the list anyway.
>
> Joseph Leavitt
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving messages

2013-11-27 Thread JV Leavitt


I see by looking at the list online, that I am not yet receiving them.
I'll try this to see if my own message gets through to the list anyway.

Joseph Leavitt




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Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-27 Thread Brian/Support

As I understand it from the programmer's explanation during the beta
testing, we cannot trap (technical term for capturing for a special
purpose) standard key presses and pass those on to implement the ribbon
functions.

Making a suggestion is unlikely to change anything since what you will
be asking for (if it is the two key commands you want reinstated) is
impossible. If you want to suggest that those old keyboard commands be
implemented as Alt-key, Ctrl-key combinations then a suggestion would be
appropriate.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 27/11/2013 7:15 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
> Thanks for the quick response, Brian.
>
> Your answer is very disappointing, though.  I much prefer keyboard
> shortcuts to reaching for the mouse or trackpad.
>
> This might be a deal-breaker for me.  I'll have to think about it. Quite
> happy with v7.5, so have no qualms about continuing to use it for now -
> and my Deluxe customer number for v8 just arrived a few moments ago, so
> I have a choice to make.
>
> I hope there is a plan to restore them (albeit with new key combinations
> that fit the new ribbon control) in the near future.
>
> Would it help if I put in a suggestion through the proper channels?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy
>
> Brian/Support said the following on 28/11/2013 12:49 p.m.:
>> They have gone. One by-product of the change to the Ribbon control we
>> use in Legacy 8 is that we can no longer use those old two letter
>> shortcuts and now can only use Function Key, Alt-Key or CTRL-Key
>> shortcuts as documented in the Help.
>>
>> Brian
>> Customer Support
>> Millennia Corporation
>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>
>> On 27/11/2013 1833, Wendy Howard wrote:
>>> Where have all the keyboard shortcuts gone?  The list in v8 is
>>> significantly shorter than the one for v7, and my "old favourites" are
>>> not working.
>>>
>>> Basics such as Edit Wife (E - W) and Edit Husband (E - H) appear to have
>>> vanished.  Along with Add Daughter and Add Son, Husband's Parents, even
>>> the shortcuts to switch between views.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something, or have they gone?
>>>
>>> Wendy
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 8 - How to save Statistics data

2013-11-27 Thread Larry Lee

Wm,  Jay, et al,

Good ideas coming from several users already.  Submit your enhancement
ideas from the Home Page as they may not get picked up from the list due to
volume.

Larry Lee
 On Nov 27, 2013 6:57 PM, "Wm Voss"  wrote:

>  You can download pdf2html from SourceForge (free, open source). Drop the
> pdf on the .exe and it generates the pages. The upside is that you have
> all the data in place; the bad is that the table structure is lost because
> of the pdf coding, so you will have to do that yourself -- not too odious
> if you have a good editor and some talent for regular expression search
> and replace.
>
> Its just a shame the report doesn't start with a blank slate and allow
> you to choose what statistics you want instead of deselecting all the
> stuff you don't.
>
> Wm Voss
>
> On 27-Nov-13 5:44 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
>
> Thanks,Ã‚Â
> Not sure why I missed that at first glance...
>
>  But still would be nice to export/print to an .htmlÃ‚Â
>
>  JayÃ‚Â
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Wm Voss wrote:
>
>>  Statistic Report (Reports/Other), run preview and then select PDF to
>> save.
>>
>> Wm Voss
>>
>>  On 27-Nov-13 4:30 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
>>
>> I really like the new Statistics data.ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â
>>
>>  But I would like to save this info in some format,ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â
>> preferably as an .html document that I can enhance my web site pages
>> with.ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â
>>
>>  But even saving the data to a .pdf would be ok.ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â
>>
>>  Also if the stat is in reference to a particular person (longest lived,
>> etc) the name of the person should be included in the saved document.
>>
>>  Thanks
>>
>>  JayÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 8 - How to save Statistics data



Wm,
The options allow you to clear all tags. So you can quickly get to your
blank slate
Cathy
At 09:55 AM 28/11/2013, you wrote:

You can download pdf2html from SourceForge
(free, open source). Drop the pdf on the .exe and it generates the pages.
The upside is that you have all the data in place; the bad is that the
table structure is lost because of the pdf coding, so you will have to do
that yourself -- not too odious if you have a good editor and some talent
for regular _expression_ search and replace.
Its just a shame the report doesn't start with a blank slate and allow
you to choose what statistics you want instead of deselecting all the
stuff you don't.
Wm Voss 
On 27-Nov-13 5:44 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
Thanks,ÃÃÂ  
Not sure why I missed that at first glance...
But still would be nice to export/print to an .htmlÃÃÂ 
JayÃÃÂ 


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Wm Voss
<
bellafort...@earthlink.net> wrote:


Statistic Report (Reports/Other), run
preview and then select PDF to save.

Wm Voss

On 27-Nov-13 4:30 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:

I really like the new Statistics
data.ÃÆÃâÃÂ¢Ã¢Â¬ÃÂ¡ÃÆÃ¢Ã¡ÃâÃÂ  

But I would like to save this info in some
format,ÃÆÃâÃÂ¢Ã¢Â¬ÃÂ¡ÃÆÃ¢Ã¡ÃâÃÂ 

preferably as an .html document that I can enhance my web site pages
with.ÃÆÃâÃÂ¢Ã¢Â¬ÃÂ¡ÃÆÃ¢¢ÃÃÂ 

v> 

But even saving the data to a .pdf would be
ok.ÃÆÃâÃÂ¢Ã¢Â¬ÃÂ¡ÃÆÃ¢Ã¡ÃâÃÂ 

Also if the stat is in reference to a particular person (longest
lived, etc) the name of the person should be included in the saved
document.

Thanks

JayÃÆÃâÃÂ¢Ã¢Â¬ÃÂ¡ÃÆÃ¢Ã¡ÃâÃÂ





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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 8 - How to save Statistics data

You can download pdf2html from SourceForge (free, open source). Drop the
pdf on the .exe and it generates the pages. Theupside is that youhave
all the data in place; the bad is that the table structure is lost
because of the pdf coding, so you will have to do that yourself -- not
too odious if you have a good editor and some talent for regular
expression search and replace.

Its just a shame the report doesn't start with a blank slate and allow
you to choose what statisticsyou want instead of deselecting all the
stuff you don't.

Wm Voss

On 27-Nov-13 5:44 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
> Thanks,Ã‚
> Not sure why I missed that at first glance...
>
> But still would be nice to export/print to an .htmlÃ‚
>
> JayÃ‚
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Wm Voss  > wrote:
>
> Statistic Report (Reports/Other), run preview and then select PDF
> to save.
>
> Wm Voss
>
> On 27-Nov-13 4:30 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
>> I really like the new Statistics data.ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
>>
>> But I would like to save this info in some format,ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
>> preferably as an .html document that I can enhance my web site
>> pages with.ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
>>
>> But even saving the data to a .pdf would be ok.ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
>>
>> Also if the stat is in reference to a particular person (longest
>> lived, etc) the name of the person should be included in the
>> saved document.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> JayÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Problems with origins/migration report

2013-11-27 Thread Gavin Nicholson

Sorry I didn't trim that first e-mail. I can report restarting Legacy has fixed 
the error 91 but the typo remains. I will submit a bug report.

Subject: [LegacyUG] Problems with origins/migration report
From: gavn...@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 10:54:07 +1000
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

First one is an obvious typo. In the migration report dialog out has "look BACK 
how many generations" it should say forward. When the report appears it 
correctly says forward.

Second for me anyway is when I do an origins or migration report I get "error 
saving record to index work file. Error 91 object variable our with block 
variable not set" it goes on to day do a check repair which I did twice but 
same error. It is worth saying that when I click no in response to the question 
of try again the report appears.

Gavin

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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 8 - How to save Statistics data

2013-11-27 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree

Thanks,
Not sure why I missed that at first glance...

But still would be nice to export/print to an .html

Jay




On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Wm Voss  wrote:

>  Statistic Report (Reports/Other), run preview and then select PDF to
> save.
>
> Wm Voss
>
>  On 27-Nov-13 4:30 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
>
> I really like the new Statistics data.Ã‚Â
>
>  But I would like to save this info in some format,Ã‚Â
> preferably as an .html document that I can enhance my web site pages
> with.Ã‚Â
>
>  But even saving the data to a .pdf would be ok.Ã‚Â
>
>  Also if the stat is in reference to a particular person (longest lived,
> etc) the name of the person should be included in the saved document.
>
>  Thanks
>
>  JayÃ‚Â
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

Maybe alphabetically? J



Pam



From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
Sent: November-27-13 8:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



who know what order they're going in.

I purchased 7.5 deluxe back in August, I'm still waiting for my update code.

I have the standard version of 8 but I can't keep on going with what I need to 
keep on going with because that requires Deluxe to be unlocked and I can't 
unlock without the code.
So I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs





On 28 November 2013 09:49, Jackie King  wrote:

Pam -

There is hope - Mine just came - very similar to Wendy's - and it stood out. 
Have just finished converting my database and am exploring it now.

Can I say I'm thankful? Sure can - and thanks Legacy staff!

Jackie



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:40 PM, William Boswell  wrote:

No pull.  That's odd.  I thought they were being processed in order as received.



From: Lloyd Hite [mailto:lhit...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:16 PM


To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



On 11/27/2013 6:08 PM, William Boswell wrote:

I ordered yesterday around 10:30 am EST and the email arrived after 5:00am 
today.Â  So they're either working late hours or sending emails in bulk in the 
early morning hours.Â  I figured this morning it would arrive and it did.

I placed my order yesterday before 10:00 am EST and I have not received my 
email yet. You must have some pull with them. >Grin<

Lloyd



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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 8 - How to save Statistics data

You can save to PDF from the Preview Screen.
Yes it could have lots of enhancements - but it's a great start.
and it's not just for fun. I've picked up a couple of errors in my
database with it by checking out the long lifes and the long
marriages.
One a typo (which would also have been caught with the PP alerts) and one
a confusion of father and son for one date.
Cathy
At 08:30 AM 28/11/2013, you wrote:
I really like the new Statistics
data.Â
But I would like to save this info in some format,Â
preferably as an .html document that I can enhance my web site pages
with.Â
But even saving the data to a .pdf would be ok.Â
Also if the stat is in reference to a particular person (longest lived,
etc) the name of the person should be included in the saved
document.
Thanks
JayÂ

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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 8 - How to save Statistics data

Statistic Report (Reports/Other), run preview and then select PDF to save.

Wm Voss

On 27-Nov-13 4:30 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
> I really like the new Statistics data.Ã‚
>
> But I would like to save this info in some format,Ã‚
> preferably as an .html document that I can enhance my web site pages
> with.Ã‚
>
> But even saving the data to a .pdf would be ok.Ã‚
>
> Also if the stat is in reference to a particular person (longest
> lived, etc) the name of the person should be included in the saved
> document.
>
> Thanks
>
> JayÃ‚
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Subscription

2013-11-27 Thread Glenn Staff

All sorted now.. thanks for the help everyone.

Cheers,
Glenn

On 28 Nov 2013, at 11:58 am, Kurt Kneeland  wrote:

> Glenn
>
> A lot of us have had this problem getting started with the user group.  You 
> need to email supp...@legacyfamilytree.com and request that they reset your 
> Legacy User Group account for the email you want to use.  You might also ask 
> them to delete the others that you aren't going to use.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Glenn Staff [mailto:gl...@staff.id.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:07 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Subscription
>
> Hi,
> I�m hoping you can help me.  I have successfully subscribed a number of time 
> to the Legacy User Group mailing list. Unfortunately, each time I have 
> subscribed I never receive any emails from the group even though I know that 
> there are plenty of messages (checked on the web).
> There are no messages in my junk or spam folder and I have even set my spam 
> settings down low just to make sure.
>
> I am using this current email address to subscribe to the list 
> (gl...@staff.id.au)
>
> Regards,
> Glenn Staff
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Subscription

Glenn

A lot of us have had this problem getting started with the user group.  You 
need to email supp...@legacyfamilytree.com and request that they reset your 
Legacy User Group account for the email you want to use.  You might also ask 
them to delete the others that you aren't going to use.

-Original Message-
From: Glenn Staff [mailto:gl...@staff.id.au]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Subscription

Hi,
I�m hoping you can help me.  I have successfully subscribed a number of time to 
the Legacy User Group mailing list. Unfortunately, each time I have subscribed 
I never receive any emails from the group even though I know that there are 
plenty of messages (checked on the web).
There are no messages in my junk or spam folder and I have even set my spam 
settings down low just to make sure.

I am using this current email address to subscribe to the list 
(gl...@staff.id.au)

Regards,
Glenn Staff


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[LegacyUG] Problems with origins/migration report

2013-11-27 Thread Gavin Nicholson

First one is an obvious typo. In the migration report dialog out has "look BACK 
how many generations" it should say forward. When the report appears it 
correctly says forward.

Second for me anyway is when I do an origins or migration report I get "error 
saving record to index work file. Error 91 object variable our with block 
variable not set" it goes on to day do a check repair which I did twice but 
same error. It is worth saying that when I click no in response to the question 
of try again the report appears.

Gavin

Sherry/Support  wrote:
>John,
>
>Can I add your comments about shared events and TNG to our new
>Knowledge Base?
>
>It would be anonymous.
>
>Thanks,
>Sherry
>
>
>
>On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:49 AM, John B. Lisle  wrote:
>> Brant,
>>
>> The Legacy Shared Event Gedcom export is "standard" in the sense that
>it is
>> virtually identical to what Roots Magic does. We have tested that RM
>Gedcoms
>> with shared events can import into Legacy and vice versa.
>>
>> The problem for us TNG users is TNG. TNG does not support Shared
>Events. I
>> and others have raised the issue on the TNG Users list, but he has
>not
>> committed to implementing shared events. Until he does, I feel I
>cannot use
>> this important new functionality.
>>
>> I ask you and other on this list who use TNG to raise the request
>with TNG
>> and maybe if enough people ask, it will get on his radar. Considering
>that
>> two desk top apps have the functionality and implement Gedcoms the
>same, it
>> would seem like it is something he should do.
>>
>> john.
>>
>>Lists.asp
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Integrate with Family Search

I can't see that anyone has responded with how to turn this
on, if desired, after installation.
All the choices you make during installation can be changed.
See Options - Customise
For Family Search Integration - Option 1.8
Note that now some options are Global and used by all Family Files and
some are Family File specific and only used by that Family File.
This one is Family File specific so can be used for some files and not
others.
The Family File specific settings apply to all new family files and can
be saved and applied to any family file so you don't have to set them all
again - see the options on the buttons at the bottom of the Customise
screen.
Cathy
At 09:23 PM 27/11/2013, you wrote:
When I installed Legacy 8.0,
"Integrate with Family Search" was not checked by default, so I
ignored it, assuming it was not for the average user. Now after reading
the section in the User Guide (pg 269), I'm wondering if I am missing out
on a bonus feature by not having checked it?
Thanks again all,
Leo

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[LegacyUG] Ver 8 - How to save Statistics data

2013-11-27 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree

I really like the new Statistics data.

But I would like to save this info in some format,
preferably as an .html document that I can enhance my web site pages with.

But even saving the data to a .pdf would be ok.

Also if the stat is in reference to a particular person (longest lived,
etc) the name of the person should be included in the saved document.

Thanks

Jay



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Subscription

Hi Glenn,

This is a known problem with this mailing list and some new
subscriptions - it's been going on for years now.  Contact Legacy
directly (try supp...@legacyfamilytree.com), and they should be able to
help you with the problem.

I'm sending a copy of this reply both to the list and to you, so that
others know you've had a response and you get a copy of it.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy


Glenn Staff said the following on 28/11/2013 1:07 p.m.:
> Hi,
> Iâ€™m hoping you can help me.  I have successfully subscribed a number of 
> time to the Legacy User Group mailing list. Unfortunately, each time I have 
> subscribed I never receive any emails from the group even though I know that 
> there are plenty of messages (checked on the web).
> There are no messages in my junk or spam folder and I have even set my spam 
> settings down low just to make sure.
>
> I am using this current email address to subscribe to the list 
> (gl...@staff.id.au)
>
> Regards,
> Glenn Staff
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Children with 'double 's's????

2013-11-27 Thread Larry Lee

Elizabeth,

>From the help files, search for "Symbols" shows in topic Family View: *What
do the Little Symbols Mean?*

...

.

A "*+*" at the end of a child name means that person has children.  There
is at least one more generation of descendants on that line.

A "*§*" at the end of a child means that person is married but has no
children.

...

Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Karen and Jim  wrote:

>  Elizabeth,
>
> Â§ is called the *section sign*,
> also called double S, hurricane, and the legal doughnut.
> It is a typographical character 
> used mainly to refer
> to a particular 
> sectionof a document,
> such as a legal code.
>
> This answer is from wikipedia.org via google.
> I asked google "what is Â§".
>
> Google is your friend.
>
> JimS
>
> On 11/27/2013 02:43 PM, elizabeth wrote:
>
>I can't find what this means in the help file...
>
>  Some of the children for a man who was married twice have a symbol at the
> end of their name that looks like 2 "S"s on top of each other. It's a
> 'squiggly' looking thing,
>
>  I have tried unlinking the wives and children and reconnecting everybody
> but no matter what I do that symbol is still there.
>
>  Can anybody tell me what it means and how to fix it?
>
>  Thank you,
>  Elizabeth
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

as long as my thumbs are twiddling, I'm being patient Sherry :)


On 28 November 2013 10:18, Sherry/Support wrote:

> The Order Desk is working on processing the upgrades as quickly as they
> can.
>
> Your patience is appreciated.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Kathy Thompson 
> wrote:
> > who know what order they're going in.
> > I purchased 7.5 deluxe back in August, I'm still waiting for my update
> code.
> > I have the standard version of 8 but I can't keep on going with what I
> need
> > to keep on going with because that requires Deluxe to be unlocked and I
> > can't unlock without the code.
> > So I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Clock & Alarm feature

2013-11-27 Thread Brian/Support

I have confirmed this problem with the alarm when Option 4.8 is set to
12 Hour. The Alarm will also not save a time in the PM period as well as
the time of day showing AM when it should be PM.

A report has been recorded in our problem tracking system so this can be
fixed.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 27/11/2013 2:11 PM, Mark Lang wrote:
> Kurt, Kathy, Mike,
>
> Well that is certainly weird. Just checked mine again also, and it is
> now the correct time. Other beta testers couldn't see the problem even
> though I submitted images as proof; but that has been seen before where
> there is a problem others are unable to duplicate. We do our best
> amongst the frustration. Will keep an eye on it though, but all seems
> good now for me as well.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Mark
>
> *From:*Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 28 November 2013 1:05 AM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Clock & Alarm feature
>
> I also noticed a problem with the current time displayed  on the Alarm
> Center.  It was 12 hours off - displaying PM when it should have been
> AM.  I thought it might just be mishandling the AM/PM indicator.  I
> switched to 24-hour clock (Option 4.8) and all seemed well.  This
> morning I switched back to the 12-hour clock and it seems to be OK.
> Iâ€™ll have to check again in the 12 oâ€™clock hours (eg 0030 and 1230) and
> see if the problem reoccurs.
>
> *From:*Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:17 AM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Clock & Alarm feature
>
> it certainly was!
>
> On 27 November 2013 17:14, Mike Fry  > wrote:
>
> On 2013/11/27 09:08, Kathy Thompson wrote:
>> However, first the clock was 15 hours out, then it was 12 hours out, then it 
>> was
>> about 6 hours out - now it is showing the correct time.
>> It appears that a few loads and shut downs of the program were needed for it 
>> to
>> get in sync with my time zone.
>> And no, I have not changed my own computer clock.
>
> Strange one!
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

The Order Desk is working on processing the upgrades as quickly as they can.

Your patience is appreciated.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Kathy Thompson  wrote:
> who know what order they're going in.
> I purchased 7.5 deluxe back in August, I'm still waiting for my update code.
> I have the standard version of 8 but I can't keep on going with what I need
> to keep on going with because that requires Deluxe to be unlocked and I
> can't unlock without the code.
> So I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs

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Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

Thanks for the quick response, Brian.

Your answer is very disappointing, though.  I much prefer keyboard
shortcuts to reaching for the mouse or trackpad.

This might be a deal-breaker for me.  I'll have to think about it. Quite
happy with v7.5, so have no qualms about continuing to use it for now -
and my Deluxe customer number for v8 just arrived a few moments ago, so
I have a choice to make.

I hope there is a plan to restore them (albeit with new key combinations
that fit the new ribbon control) in the near future.

Would it help if I put in a suggestion through the proper channels?

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Brian/Support said the following on 28/11/2013 12:49 p.m.:
> They have gone. One by-product of the change to the Ribbon control we
> use in Legacy 8 is that we can no longer use those old two letter
> shortcuts and now can only use Function Key, Alt-Key or CTRL-Key
> shortcuts as documented in the Help.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> On 27/11/2013 1833, Wendy Howard wrote:
>> Where have all the keyboard shortcuts gone?  The list in v8 is
>> significantly shorter than the one for v7, and my "old favourites" are
>> not working.
>>
>> Basics such as Edit Wife (E - W) and Edit Husband (E - H) appear to have
>> vanished.  Along with Add Daughter and Add Son, Husband's Parents, even
>> the shortcuts to switch between views.
>>
>> Am I missing something, or have they gone?
>>
>> Wendy

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[LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Subscription

2013-11-27 Thread Glenn Staff

Hi,
I’m hoping you can help me.  I have successfully subscribed a number of time to 
the Legacy User Group mailing list. Unfortunately, each time I have subscribed 
I never receive any emails from the group even though I know that there are 
plenty of messages (checked on the web).
There are no messages in my junk or spam folder and I have even set my spam 
settings down low just to make sure.

I am using this current email address to subscribe to the list 
(gl...@staff.id.au)

Regards,
Glenn Staff


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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 8 Pedigree View

With Legacy 8, the Panels have gone - so how do you access this very
useful information?

You turn on Pop-ups in Options > Customise 1.7 (isn't that a great
change - being able to refer to Options by number :-) )
Information Pop-ups only work on Pedigree View and not Family View as
they used to in L7.

However they're vital on Pedigree View to access the information that
was on the panels.
The popup gives you spouses and children. You have to go to the
previous generation to get Siblings.

Anyone in the pop-up can be clicked on. double click to change the
focus of Pedigree View to that person.

Note that there is also a change to who is in focus on Pedigree View.
It is only and always the starting person. By that I mean you can't
click on someone else and then change view and find them in focus as
was the case in L7.

Cathy

At 06:36 AM 28/11/2013, you wrote:
>I usually live in Pedigree view and was perfectly happy with the way V7
>Pedigree view looked.  I only have one monitor and had set up V7 to fit
>neatly in one corner with browser and image viewer elsewhere.  If I do
>this with V8 it simply doesn't look right.
>
>My V8 screen has lost the Spouse/Children and Siblings boxes and has
>double-height boxes for each person.  I have no reason to want pictures
>shown here.
>
>Is it possible to change the V8 view so that it is more like the V7 view?
>
>If not, can I make my first suggestion for V8?
>
>Cheers
>
>Tony
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Legacy User Group Subscription

2013-11-27 Thread Glenn Staff

Hi,
I’m hoping you can help me.  I have successfully subscribed a number of time to 
the Legacy User Group mailing list. Unfortunately, each time I have subscribed 
I never receive any emails from the group even though I know that there are 
plenty of messages (checked on the web).
There are no messages in my junk or spam folder and I have even set my spam 
settings down low just to make sure.

I am using this current email address to subscribe to the list 
(gl...@staff.id.au)

Regards,
Glenn Staff


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Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

who know what order they're going in.
I purchased 7.5 deluxe back in August, I'm still waiting for my update code.
I have the standard version of 8 but I can't keep on going with what I need
to keep on going with because that requires Deluxe to be unlocked and I
can't unlock without the code.
So I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs




On 28 November 2013 09:49, Jackie King  wrote:

> Pam -
>
> There is hope - Mine just came - very similar to Wendy's - and it stood
> out. Have just finished converting my database and am exploring it now.
>
> Can I say I'm thankful? Sure can - and thanks Legacy staff!
>
> Jackie
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:40 PM, William Boswell wrote:
>
>> No pull.  That's odd.  I thought they were being processed in order as
>> received.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Lloyd Hite [mailto:lhit...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:16 PM
>>
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/27/2013 6:08 PM, William Boswell wrote:
>>
>> I ordered yesterday around 10:30 am EST and the email arrived after
>> 5:00am today.Â  So they're either working late hours or sending emails in
>> bulk in the early morning hours.Â  I figured this morning it would arrive
>> and it did.
>>
>> I placed my order yesterday before 10:00 am EST and I have not received
>> my email yet. You must have some pull with them. >Grin<
>>
>> Lloyd
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

For the Electoral Rolls, in my case I already have them as Residence events
(failed to mention that sorry)
I was merely meaning to point out that because I have an event for the
parents based on a very specific source, but that from that source and
logic and family knowledge I know that the children were also at that
residence location, I can share that event more easily.

Also, in regards to Census events, they all go into my Legacy database via
Clooz and so everyone is fully and as completely as possibly accounted for
and sourced down to the line they appear on - Electoral rolls aren't so
easily used to the same degree.




On 28 November 2013 09:46, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Interesting discussion.
>
> Kathy I wouldn't dream of using a Shared Event as you appear to
> suggest here but would use the Electoral Roll as a source for the
> residence of the non-voters. They don't actually share the Electoral
> Roll event. Maybe you mean you are adding a Residence event and using
> the Electoral Roll as a source for that and assuming the children are
> there? Then you share the Residence Event?
>
> Whereas when you know they all there as in a census, that's what
> Shared Events are for - You share the Census event - but you don't
> have to use shared events. I don't know that I will though I've been
> testing them a bit during the beta test period.
>
> Note for those who like to highlight a particular person in the Notes
> for a Shared Event, every person who shares the event can have their
> own notes.
> Whether or not the Event Owner's notes are included when the event is
> reported for one of the other people sharing the event can be
> controlled by ticking the relevant check boxes.
>
> Cathy
>
> At 06:59 AM 28/11/2013, you wrote:
> >I think a better event for "Sharing" is one based on an Electoral
> >Roll or Voter List where only those eligible to be on the roll are
> >listed and those not eligible are not.
> >
> >For example:
> >
> >I have found my grandparents on the Australian Electoral Roll at a
> >location and in a year where I know that all of their children had
> >been born and were still living at home.
> >While I can not normally use the Electoral Roll to show 100% proof
> >that the children were also there, given that the children were
> >under the age one might expect them to be able to leave home, I can
> >infer from my mother memories and the Electoral Roll and thus
> >logically use the parents Electoral Roll record as logical evidence
> >of where the children were living at a certain point in time.
> >
> >Census records, which typically show each and every person at that
> >residence don't need "sharing" as they each have their own proof of
> >that person living there on that date.
> >And, they each have their own source, down to which line they appear on.
> >
> >Just my thoughts and how I'll be using the Shared Events feature.
> >
> >
> >
> >On 28 November 2013 04:53, Paul Gray
> ><graypa...@outlook.com> wrote:
> >I think one example might be residence (or census) events where one
> >records the entire family unit in one event, and then attaches it to
> >(for example) father, mother, and each of the children.
> >
> >Paul Gray
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
> >Sent: November-27-13 11:45 AM
> >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events
> >
> >Brant Gibbard wrote:
> > > Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events, and if so,
> > > what was your experience with it. I am particularly interested in
> > > seeing how gedcom export is handled. To the best of my knowledge
> > > gedcom does not intrinsically support shared events. What happens when
> > > a shared event is exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made for
> > > each participant? I ask because I publish my data through TNG, and I
> > > would like to have some idea as to whether shared events will
> > > cooperate with my scenario.
> >
> >U ... can someone explain why a Shared Event matters on export?
> >
> >MY personal interest in Shared Events is so I can slap a "Served in
> >World War I" label on 25 different people, without typing it 25 separate
> times.
> >
> >It's sounding as if others using it in some other way that my mind
> >is finding obscure?
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Cheryl
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Children with 'double 's's????

2013-11-27 Thread Karen and Jim

Elizabeth,

Â§ is called the *section sign*,
also called double S, hurricane, and the legal doughnut.
It is a typographical
character used mainly to refer
to a particular
section of a document,
such as a legal code.

This answer is from wikipedia.org via google.
I asked google "what is Â§".

Google is your friend.

JimS

On 11/27/2013 02:43 PM, elizabeth wrote:
> I can't find what this means in the help file...
>
> Some of the children for a man who was married twice have a symbol at
> the end of their name that looks like 2 "S"s on top of each other.
> It's a 'squiggly' looking thing,
>
> I have tried unlinking the wives and children and reconnecting
> everybody but no matter what I do that symbol is still there.
>
> Can anybody tell me what it means and how to fix it?
>
> Thank you,
> Elizabeth
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

2013-11-27 Thread Jackie King

Pam -

There is hope - Mine just came - very similar to Wendy's - and it stood
out. Have just finished converting my database and am exploring it now.

Can I say I'm thankful? Sure can - and thanks Legacy staff!

Jackie


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:40 PM, William Boswell wrote:

> No pull.  That's odd.  I thought they were being processed in order as
> received.
>
>
>
> *From:* Lloyd Hite [mailto:lhit...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:16 PM
>
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question
>
>
>
> On 11/27/2013 6:08 PM, William Boswell wrote:
>
> I ordered yesterday around 10:30 am EST and the email arrived after 5:00am
> today.Â  So they're either working late hours or sending emails in bulk in
> the early morning hours.Â  I figured this morning it would arrive and it
> did.
>
> I placed my order yesterday before 10:00 am EST and I have not received my
> email yet. You must have some pull with them. >Grin<
>
> Lloyd
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-27 Thread Brian/Support

They have gone. One by-product of the change to the Ribbon control we
use in Legacy 8 is that we can no longer use those old two letter
shortcuts and now can only use Function Key, Alt-Key or CTRL-Key
shortcuts as documented in the Help.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 27/11/2013 1833, Wendy Howard wrote:
> Where have all the keyboard shortcuts gone?  The list in v8 is
> significantly shorter than the one for v7, and my "old favourites" are
> not working.
>
> Basics such as Edit Wife (E - W) and Edit Husband (E - H) appear to have
> vanished.  Along with Add Daughter and Add Son, Husband's Parents, even
> the shortcuts to switch between views.
>
> Am I missing something, or have they gone?
>
> Wendy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

Interesting discussion.

Kathy I wouldn't dream of using a Shared Event as you appear to
suggest here but would use the Electoral Roll as a source for the
residence of the non-voters. They don't actually share the Electoral
Roll event. Maybe you mean you are adding a Residence event and using
the Electoral Roll as a source for that and assuming the children are
there? Then you share the Residence Event?

Whereas when you know they all there as in a census, that's what
Shared Events are for - You share the Census event - but you don't
have to use shared events. I don't know that I will though I've been
testing them a bit during the beta test period.

Note for those who like to highlight a particular person in the Notes
for a Shared Event, every person who shares the event can have their
own notes.
Whether or not the Event Owner's notes are included when the event is
reported for one of the other people sharing the event can be
controlled by ticking the relevant check boxes.

Cathy

At 06:59 AM 28/11/2013, you wrote:
>I think a better event for "Sharing" is one based on an Electoral
>Roll or Voter List where only those eligible to be on the roll are
>listed and those not eligible are not.
>
>For example:
>
>I have found my grandparents on the Australian Electoral Roll at a
>location and in a year where I know that all of their children had
>been born and were still living at home.
>While I can not normally use the Electoral Roll to show 100% proof
>that the children were also there, given that the children were
>under the age one might expect them to be able to leave home, I can
>infer from my mother memories and the Electoral Roll and thus
>logically use the parents Electoral Roll record as logical evidence
>of where the children were living at a certain point in time.
>
>Census records, which typically show each and every person at that
>residence don't need "sharing" as they each have their own proof of
>that person living there on that date.
>And, they each have their own source, down to which line they appear on.
>
>Just my thoughts and how I'll be using the Shared Events feature.
>
>
>
>On 28 November 2013 04:53, Paul Gray
><graypa...@outlook.com> wrote:
>I think one example might be residence (or census) events where one
>records the entire family unit in one event, and then attaches it to
>(for example) father, mother, and each of the children.
>
>Paul Gray
>
>-Original Message-
>From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
>Sent: November-27-13 11:45 AM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events
>
>Brant Gibbard wrote:
> > Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events, and if so,
> > what was your experience with it. I am particularly interested in
> > seeing how gedcom export is handled. To the best of my knowledge
> > gedcom does not intrinsically support shared events. What happens when
> > a shared event is exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made for
> > each participant? I ask because I publish my data through TNG, and I
> > would like to have some idea as to whether shared events will
> > cooperate with my scenario.
>
>U ... can someone explain why a Shared Event matters on export?
>
>MY personal interest in Shared Events is so I can slap a "Served in
>World War I" label on 25 different people, without typing it 25 separate times.
>
>It's sounding as if others using it in some other way that my mind
>is finding obscure?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Cheryl
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

2013-11-27 Thread William Boswell

No pull.  That's odd.  I thought they were being processed in order as received.

From: Lloyd Hite [mailto:lhit...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

On 11/27/2013 6:08 PM, William Boswell wrote:

I ordered yesterday around 10:30 am EST and the email arrived after 5:00am 
today.Â  So they're either working late hours or sending emails in bulk in the 
early morning hours.Â  I figured this morning it would arrive and it did.

I placed my order yesterday before 10:00 am EST and I have not received my 
email yet. You must have some pull with them. >Grin<

Lloyd

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RE: [LegacyUG] Children with 'double 's's????

You can modify this somewhat at Customize item 3.8.  Instead of the "§" and “+” 
to indicate spouses and additional descendants, you can have bolded child 
numbers to indicate those with spouses, and underlined child numbers to 
indicate those with further descendants.  Can also turn on/off the “*” 
indicating the preferred child and bolding of the direct line child.



From: Bert van Kootwijk [mailto:vank...@hetnet.nl]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Children with 'double 's's



>From helptopic 1036 Family View:



?A "§" at the end of a child means that person is married but has no children.



Bert

- Original Message -

From: elizabeth 

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:43 PM

Subject: [LegacyUG] Children with 'double 's's



I can't find what this means in the help file...

Some of the children for a man who was married twice have a symbol at the end 
of their name that looks like 2 "S"s on top of each other. It's a 'squiggly' 
looking thing,

I have tried unlinking the wives and children and reconnecting everybody but no 
matter what I do that symbol is still there.

Can anybody tell me what it means and how to fix it?

Thank you,

Elizabeth



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  actief is.





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[LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

Where have all the keyboard shortcuts gone?  The list in v8 is
significantly shorter than the one for v7, and my "old favourites" are
not working.

Basics such as Edit Wife (E - W) and Edit Husband (E - H) appear to have
vanished.  Along with Add Daughter and Add Son, Husband's Parents, even
the shortcuts to switch between views.

Am I missing something, or have they gone?

Wendy



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RE: [LegacyUG] Clock & Alarm feature

Well, I was out of the house most of the day, but apparently when 12 noon 
rolled around, the alarm current time did not change to PM.  At 4:30 this 
afternoon and now at 5:15, it is still showing AM even though my system clock 
is showing PM.  Just switch to 24-hour clock and the alarm current time shows 
correctly as 17:18 but changing back to the 12 hour clock still shows AM.

From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Clock & Alarm feature

Glad to know it had been seen before.

Will see if I can notice anything next time I see it happen in case that helps.

Kathy

On 28 Nov 2013, at 5:11 am, "Mark Lang"  wrote:

Kurt, Kathy, Mike,

Well that is certainly wierd. Just checked mine again also, and it is now the 
correct time. Other beta testers couldn't see the problem even though I 
submitted images as proof; but that has been seen before where there is a 
problem others are unable to duplicate. We do our best amongst the frustration. 
Will keep an eye on it though, but all seems good now for me as well.

Kind Regards,

Mark

From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2013 1:05 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Clock & Alarm feature

I also noticed a problem with the current time displayed  on the Alarm Center.  
It was 12 hours off - displaying PM when it should have been AM.  I thought it 
might just be mishandling the AM/PM indicator.  I switched to 24-hour clock 
(Option 4.8) and all seemed well.  This morning I switched back to the 12-hour 
clock and it seems to be OK.  I’ll have to check again in the 12 o’clock hours 
(eg 0030 and 1230) and see if the problem reoccurs.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:17 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Clock & Alarm feature

it certainly was!

On 27 November 2013 17:14, Mike Fry  wrote:

On 2013/11/27 09:08, Kathy Thompson wrote:
> However, first the clock was 15 hours out, then it was 12 hours out, then it 
> was
> about 6 hours out - now it is showing the correct time.
> It appears that a few loads and shut downs of the program were needed for it 
> to
> get in sync with my time zone.
> And no, I have not changed my own computer clock.

Strange one!

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Options Selections

Mike,

When you install the program, you do have a few customizations to
choose. Is that what you are talking about?

I agree, those selections do not have associated Help files.

However, in the real Customize tool, there is associated help.
Everything you can set in the beginning can be changed later in the
real Customization tool.

When you open the Customize function, you can open the associated
help at the same time. I have both sitting on my laptop screen as I type this.

john.

At 05:28 PM 11/27/2013, Mike Fry wrote:
>On 2013/11/27 21:36, John B. Lisle wrote:
>
> > In general, you want to read the help to see if
> > that give more information about the options.
>
>That's a bit of a Catch-22 situation. You can't view the Help without having
>installed the program first and by default, the program starts
>running and wants
>you to configure it, but you have to cancel that so you can read the help and
>then you can't get back to where you were in the configuration process.
>
>--
>Regards,
>Mike Fry
>Johannesburg (g)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Integrate with Family Search

2013-11-27 Thread Ron Ferguson

Thank you Mike, I did wonder if that was your concern, and it is one which I
share.

Whilst Family Search is based on user submitted data, with all the problems
that brings, we can now also amend that data, and with the best will in the
world I cannot but see how this is not going to worsen the quality of the
data.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Integrate with Family Search

On 2013/11/27 17:36, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> I would be grateful if you would explain the meaning of "sting in the
> tail".
> During testing a played around quite a bit with FS and noted quite an
> improvement as time went one, and I ended up quite happy with it.

What I was trying to say, slightly facetiously, was that the integration can
be
a bit of a double-edged sword if used inappropriately. What we had was a
novice
(in terms of FamilySearch experience) who might have blindly jumped in and
wound
up corrupting their prized database with data from FamilySearch that was
mistakenly assumed to be relevant to them.

The two-way flow of data needs to be carefully controlled. I still only work
from what I can see on FamilySearch. I never upload my carefully researched
data
to FamilySearch. I also find it tedious having to deal with each duplicate
separately because of the plethora of different extractions that the LDS
have
done. There must be a better, simpler way of handling this aspect.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

2013-11-27 Thread Lloyd Hite

On 11/27/2013 6:08 PM, William Boswell wrote:
> I ordered yesterday around 10:30 am EST and the email arrived after
> 5:00am today.  So they're either working late hours or sending emails
> in bulk in the early morning hours.  I figured this morning it would
> arrive and it did.
I placed my order yesterday before 10:00 am EST and I have not received
my email yet. You must have some pull with them. >Grin<

Lloyd

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RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

That’s fine.  I don’t mind as I can’t get to it right away J  I’m sure they are 
working as quickly as they can.  If I miss the email somehow, I can always 
contact them next week.



Pam



From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: November-27-13 7:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



I ordered yesterday around 10:30 am EST and the email arrived after 5:00am 
today.  So they're either working late hours or sending emails in bulk in the 
early morning hours.  I figured this morning it would arrive and it did.



I was more worried that this week being a holiday week the processing might be 
delayed.  Someone mentioned on this list the response time for the email could 
be extended to 48 hours because of the high demand.



From: Pamela Wile [mailto:pamelaw...@eastlink.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



Thanks for the info Bill.



Pam



From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: November-27-13 6:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



I got mine this morning.  The Subject for mine was: Here is your Legacy 8.0 
Deluxe Customer Number and PDF manual download.  It depends on what you ordered 
as to what the subject line will say.



It comes from Legacy Customer Service 
[legacycustomerserv...@legacyfamilytree.com] so there should be no mistake 
between that and this list.



Bill Boswell





From: Pamela Wile [mailto:pamelaw...@eastlink.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



Hello,



I’m patiently waiting for the email with the key for the upgrade.  I’m not in a 
rush, but just wondered what the subject line will be.  I’m receiving hundreds 
of emails from this list and don’t want it to get buried and maybe accidently 
deleted.



Pam



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RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

2013-11-27 Thread William Boswell

I ordered yesterday around 10:30 am EST and the email arrived after 5:00am 
today.  So they're either working late hours or sending emails in bulk in the 
early morning hours.  I figured this morning it would arrive and it did.



I was more worried that this week being a holiday week the processing might be 
delayed.  Someone mentioned on this list the response time for the email could 
be extended to 48 hours because of the high demand.



From: Pamela Wile [mailto:pamelaw...@eastlink.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



Thanks for the info Bill.



Pam



From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: November-27-13 6:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



I got mine this morning.  The Subject for mine was: Here is your Legacy 8.0 
Deluxe Customer Number and PDF manual download.  It depends on what you ordered 
as to what the subject line will say.



It comes from Legacy Customer Service 
[legacycustomerserv...@legacyfamilytree.com] so there should be no mistake 
between that and this list.



Bill Boswell





From: Pamela Wile [mailto:pamelaw...@eastlink.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



Hello,



I’m patiently waiting for the email with the key for the upgrade.  I’m not in a 
rush, but just wondered what the subject line will be.  I’m receiving hundreds 
of emails from this list and don’t want it to get buried and maybe accidently 
deleted.



Pam



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RE: [LegacyUG] Version 8 Pedigree View

2013-11-27 Thread C.G. Ouimet

Yes, it doesn't shrink very well.

I have also been suggesting for years that Pedigree View should allow more than 
5 generations ... 10-12 ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
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Sent: November 27, 2013 05:36 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 8 Pedigree View

I usually live in Pedigree view and was perfectly happy with the way V7 
Pedigree view looked.  I only have one monitor and had set up V7 to fit neatly 
in one corner with browser and image viewer elsewhere.  If I do this with V8 it 
simply doesn't look right.

My V8 screen has lost the Spouse/Children and Siblings boxes and has 
double-height boxes for each person.  I have no reason to want pictures shown 
here.

Is it possible to change the V8 view so that it is more like the V7 view?

If not, can I make my first suggestion for V8?

Cheers

Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events

I think a better event for "Sharing" is one based on an Electoral Roll or
Voter List where only those eligible to be on the roll are listed and those
not eligible are not.

For example:

I have found my grandparents on the Australian Electoral Roll at a location
and in a year where I know that all of their children had been born and
were still living at home.
While I can not normally use the Electoral Roll to show 100% proof that the
children were also there, given that the children were under the age one
might expect them to be able to leave home, I can infer from my mother
memories and the Electoral Roll and thus logically use the parents
Electoral Roll record as logical evidence of where the children were living
at a certain point in time.

Census records, which typically show each and every person at that
residence don't need "sharing" as they each have their own proof of that
person living there on that date.
And, they each have their own source, down to which line they appear on.

Just my thoughts and how I'll be using the Shared Events feature.

On 28 November 2013 04:53, Paul Gray  wrote:

> I think one example might be residence (or census) events where one
> records the entire family unit in one event, and then attaches it to (for
> example) father, mother, and each of the children.
>
> Paul Gray
>
> -Original Message-
> From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
> Sent: November-27-13 11:45 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Shared events
>
> Brant Gibbard wrote:
> > Has anyone had a chance to experiment with Shared Events, and if so,
> > what was your experience with it. I am particularly interested in
> > seeing how gedcom export is handled. To the best of my knowledge
> > gedcom does not intrinsically support shared events. What happens when
> > a shared event is exported to gedcom? Is a separate event made for
> > each participant? I ask because I publish my data through TNG, and I
> > would like to have some idea as to whether shared events will
> > cooperate with my scenario.
>
> U ... can someone explain why a Shared Event matters on export?
>
> MY personal interest in Shared Events is so I can slap a "Served in World
> War I" label on 25 different people, without typing it 25 separate times.
>
> It's sounding as if others using it in some other way that my mind is
> finding obscure?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cheryl
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

Thanks Wendy.

I'm not using Gmail and all Legacy email is filtered to a folder.  I received 
134 emails this afternoon when I arrived home and I’m sure there will be dozens 
more today and every day until some of the big questions are answered and I 
doubt if I'll be reading them in the next few days.  I was just hoping the 
subject line would stand out so I can quickly glance and see it.

Pam
-Original Message-
From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
Sent: November-27-13 6:29 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

Hi Pam,

The upgrade key won't come from the LUG address.  If you are using a filter to 
direct the list mail away from your Inbox and are using the
To: address to identify list mail, the key won't get tied up with the list.  It 
won't have [LegacyUG] in the subject line, either.

Personally, I don't delete any emails from my Gmail account, stored on the 
Gmail servers (except spam).  Gmail provide large mail boxes, and I'm in no 
danger of running out of space there.

I read most of my mail via the Thunderbird program, which downloads a copy to 
my computer and I do delete a lot of those, but if I accidentally delete 
something I wanted to keep from Thunderbird, I still have the copy on the Gmail 
servers.

Perhaps you could hold off on deleting the mail you've read until the key 
arrives, so that you don't delete it accidentally?  Maybe set up a folder for 
the purpose, and move mail there as you read it, so that when you're sure it's 
safe to delete they're all sitting together - away from other mail - and can be 
dealt to quickly and easily.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Pamela Wile said the following on 28/11/2013 11:14 a.m.:
>
> Hello,
>
> Iâ€™m patiently waiting for the email with the key for the upgrade.
> Iâ€™m not in a rush, but just wondered what the subject line will be.
> Iâ€™m receiving hundreds of emails from this list and donâ€™t want it
> to get buried and maybe accidently deleted.
>
> Pam
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

Thanks for the info Bill.



Pam



From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: November-27-13 6:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



I got mine this morning.  The Subject for mine was: Here is your Legacy 8.0 
Deluxe Customer Number and PDF manual download.  It depends on what you ordered 
as to what the subject line will say.



It comes from Legacy Customer Service 
[legacycustomerserv...@legacyfamilytree.com] so there should be no mistake 
between that and this list.



Bill Boswell





From: Pamela Wile [mailto:pamelaw...@eastlink.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



Hello,



I’m patiently waiting for the email with the key for the upgrade.  I’m not in a 
rush, but just wondered what the subject line will be.  I’m receiving hundreds 
of emails from this list and don’t want it to get buried and maybe accidently 
deleted.



Pam



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RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

I purchased Legacy in August so I’m waiting for the free upgrade email.



Pam



From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: November-27-13 6:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



I got mine this morning.  The Subject for mine was: Here is your Legacy 8.0 
Deluxe Customer Number and PDF manual download.  It depends on what you ordered 
as to what the subject line will say.



It comes from Legacy Customer Service 
[legacycustomerserv...@legacyfamilytree.com] so there should be no mistake 
between that and this list.



Bill Boswell





From: Pamela Wile [mailto:pamelaw...@eastlink.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



Hello,



I’m patiently waiting for the email with the key for the upgrade.  I’m not in a 
rush, but just wondered what the subject line will be.  I’m receiving hundreds 
of emails from this list and don’t want it to get buried and maybe accidently 
deleted.



Pam



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Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

2013-11-27 Thread Jackie King

I am also waiting patiently...oh heck, I am impatient as heck after reading
the what's new ...and some of the comments here. (Plus with a four day
weekend ). But this answered a question I had as well. Thanks Wendy.

Jackie


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:

> Hi Pam,
>
> The upgrade key won't come from the LUG address.  If you are using a
> filter to direct the list mail away from your Inbox and are using the
> To: address to identify list mail, the key won't get tied up with the
> list.  It won't have [LegacyUG] in the subject line, either.
>
> Personally, I don't delete any emails from my Gmail account, stored on
> the Gmail servers (except spam).  Gmail provide large mail boxes, and
> I'm in no danger of running out of space there.
>
> I read most of my mail via the Thunderbird program, which downloads a
> copy to my computer and I do delete a lot of those, but if I
> accidentally delete something I wanted to keep from Thunderbird, I still
> have the copy on the Gmail servers.
>
> Perhaps you could hold off on deleting the mail you've read until the
> key arrives, so that you don't delete it accidentally?  Maybe set up a
> folder for the purpose, and move mail there as you read it, so that when
> you're sure it's safe to delete they're all sitting together - away from
> other mail - and can be dealt to quickly and easily.
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy
>
> Pamela Wile said the following on 28/11/2013 11:14 a.m.:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Iâ€™m patiently waiting for the email with the key for the upgrade.
>  Iâ€™m
> > not in a rush, but just wondered what the subject line will be.  Iâ€™m
> > receiving hundreds of emails from this list and donâ€™t want it to get
> > buried and maybe accidently deleted.
> >
> > Pam
> >
>
>
>
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>
>
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?

2013-11-27 Thread Don Hanson

Brian,
As you might imagine software version numbering has long been a subject of 
heavy debate. One of the better specifications that I've seen was by Tom 
Preston-Werner of GitHub. http://semver.org/

His proposal requires that the public API be declared and is defined by Version 
1.0.0
In his proposal the Major version MUST be incremented if any backwards 
incompatible changes are introduced to the public API (Application Program 
Interface).

You propose that this is a Minor version, not a Major version. In Tom's 
semantic versioning, a Minor version is incremented if new, backwards 
compatible changes are introduced to the public API. The database structure 
change is a backwards incompatible change to the public API and therefore a 
Major version increment from 7 to 8 fits.

How a software developer numbers it's versions is not about the number of new 
features or even a change in the look of the program, it is about how they keep 
track of the dependencies within a software package. We, the public, view 
version numbering only in the light of how a developer charges for the 
improvements, and whether those improvements are "worth" the price. But, that 
really misses the point.

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:51 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?
>
> I'm agreeing with all your observation and am left wondering why this
> wasn't called v7.6 instead of v8.0. Maybe I'm a purist at heart but in
> the past software marketers seldom increased a full digit unless it was
> a radical redesign especially of the user interface. And I would doubt
> that the incompatible database format would warrant such an incremental
> increase because I believe that's been done in the past without a full
> digit increase.
>
> But regardless of those minor things, version 8 is here and time to
> enjoy it as written.
>
>
> Brian in CA
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:59 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Delete 7.5?
>
> Carl,
>
> Whilst I agree with your praise for the Legacy program, and I am sure
> that Legacy will be delighted with your undoubted loyalty, you have not
> given me one reason why I would spend money to upgrade.
>
> For me, I need to see technical improvements, and/or, additional
> functions which I need - not the same as mere additional functions!! As
> it is, V8.0 does give this, especially with Event Sharing, the return
> of the 5 sourcing options, the loss of which was lamented by many of
> us, the improved Family Search option (although I recognise the caveats
> with family trees) and I really do like the new design options, and
> much more.
>
> Are there things which I would have liked which are not there? Sure but
> there is sufficient there to raise my interest.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Version 8 Pedigree View

2013-11-27 Thread Tony Rolfe

I usually live in Pedigree view and was perfectly happy with the way V7
Pedigree view looked.  I only have one monitor and had set up V7 to fit
neatly in one corner with browser and image viewer elsewhere.  If I do
this with V8 it simply doesn't look right.

My V8 screen has lost the Spouse/Children and Siblings boxes and has
double-height boxes for each person.  I have no reason to want pictures
shown here.

Is it possible to change the V8 view so that it is more like the V7 view?

If not, can I make my first suggestion for V8?

Cheers

Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

Hi Pam,

The upgrade key won't come from the LUG address.  If you are using a
filter to direct the list mail away from your Inbox and are using the
To: address to identify list mail, the key won't get tied up with the
list.  It won't have [LegacyUG] in the subject line, either.

Personally, I don't delete any emails from my Gmail account, stored on
the Gmail servers (except spam).  Gmail provide large mail boxes, and
I'm in no danger of running out of space there.

I read most of my mail via the Thunderbird program, which downloads a
copy to my computer and I do delete a lot of those, but if I
accidentally delete something I wanted to keep from Thunderbird, I still
have the copy on the Gmail servers.

Perhaps you could hold off on deleting the mail you've read until the
key arrives, so that you don't delete it accidentally?  Maybe set up a
folder for the purpose, and move mail there as you read it, so that when
you're sure it's safe to delete they're all sitting together - away from
other mail - and can be dealt to quickly and easily.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

Pamela Wile said the following on 28/11/2013 11:14 a.m.:
>
> Hello,
>
> Iâ€™m patiently waiting for the email with the key for the upgrade.  Iâ€™m
> not in a rush, but just wondered what the subject line will be.  Iâ€™m
> receiving hundreds of emails from this list and donâ€™t want it to get
> buried and maybe accidently deleted.
>
> Pam
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Options Selections

2013-11-27 Thread Mike Fry

On 2013/11/27 21:36, John B. Lisle wrote:

> In general, you want to read the help to see if
> that give more information about the options.

That's a bit of a Catch-22 situation. You can't view the Help without having
installed the program first and by default, the program starts running and wants
you to configure it, but you have to cancel that so you can read the help and
then you can't get back to where you were in the configuration process.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)

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RE: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question

2013-11-27 Thread William Boswell

I got mine this morning.  The Subject for mine was: Here is your Legacy 8.0 
Deluxe Customer Number and PDF manual download.  It depends on what you ordered 
as to what the subject line will say.



It comes from Legacy Customer Service 
[legacycustomerserv...@legacyfamilytree.com] so there should be no mistake 
between that and this list.



Bill Boswell





From: Pamela Wile [mailto:pamelaw...@eastlink.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Upgrade Email Question



Hello,



I’m patiently waiting for the email with the key for the upgrade.  I’m not in a 
rush, but just wondered what the subject line will be.  I’m receiving hundreds 
of emails from this list and don’t want it to get buried and maybe accidently 
deleted.



Pam



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Re: [LegacyUG] Clock & Alarm feature