Re: [LegacyUG] Vanishing Spouses?

[Cathy Pinner]

Yes of course you can do it by unlinking and relinking but the way
you do that is important.

If one of the parties to the new relationship has children THEY
already have a "marriage". If the children really belong to the new
relationship you are adding you must make sure that the person you
are adding is added as the other partner of that relationship.

I think your problem is that you are going to the John Doe and then
adding him to the wife with children and creating a second
relationship for her, rather than going to the wife with children and
then adding John Doe as the partner for that existing relationship.

Do those wives have extra relationships?

Cathy

At 09:34 AM 24/04/2014, you wrote:
>Cathy Pinner wrote:
> > Hi Cheryl,
>
>Hi.
>
> >
> > Did you find they had extra marriages?
>
>No; they had NO marriage.
>
> > To avoid problems like this.
>
>The easy way to avoid it was to have not misread the doc
>first time around.
>
> >
> > 1.  always attach children to a couple rather than one parent if both
> > parents are in the database. If you link to just a mother or just a
> > father, you'll create an extra "marriage" for them to unknown.
> >
>
>I had/have no interest in re-keying 50 or so descendants
>just because I omitted Brother A's wife and substituted
>Brother B's wife.  Unlink/link ought to be able to deal with
>that.
>
> > 2. when adding a partner to someone with children, check whether you
> > are adding them to the current "marriage" or a new one. If a new one,
> > you'll create the 1/2 kids problem.
>
>Since Brother B had no wife until I tried to link one to
>him, this ought not to have applied.
>
> > Note the checkbox: Add this person to the currently displayed marriage.
>
>Can't say I've ever seen a checkbox for that; I DO
>occasionally, at the whim of the computer, see a question
>Add this person as a Spouse to (some name here).
>
> >
>
> > Cathy
> >
> > At 11:28 PM 23/04/2014, you wrote:
> >> Thanks, Cathy, but if I'm understanding Problem 11
> >> correctly, it doesn't apply.
> >>
> >> And, considering what happened just now, it may just be that
> >> what I'm doing is causing temporary memory/pointer/poke
> >> problems.  Which ATC isn't unreasonable.
> >>
> >> Cheryl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cathy Pinner wrote:
> >>> Hi Cheryl,
> >>>
> >>> It sounds as if you are creating extra marriages. Look at the
> >>> marriage icon in Family View. How many times does it say the wife has
> >>> been married? I suspect you are ending up having her married to an
> >>> unknown/blank with the children and then married to the right John
> >>> Deaux but not had any kids with him.
> >>>
> >>> Sounds like the John Deaux may also have two marriages - one with the
> >>> kids and no wife and one with the wife and no kids.
> >>>
> >>> When you add a partner to a person with children, you have to make
> >>> sure you are adding them to the right "family".
> >>>
> >>> There's a good right up on correcting incorrect links at
> >>> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/tipsRelationshipProblems.asp
> >>>
> >>> I think it's Problem 11 you need to read carefully for the initial
> >>> problem you were trying to correct but now some of the others apply.
> >>>
> >>> Cathy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At 12:38 AM 23/04/2014, you wrote:
>  Occasionally I go to change a spouse who has been
>  erroneously linked with the wrong John Deaux.
> 
>  EACH time I do that, the right John Deaux vanishes, leaving
>  me with the right wife and the right children, but no Daddy.
>  When I pull up Deaux-dad, the wife isn't there, but the
>  kiddles are all showing as 1/2s. If I close the program and
>  re-open, it corrects itself -- until I edit any of the
>  children, and try to go back to the parents of whom only the
>  right wife is showing.  It gets tiresome.
> 
>  What the /flip/ am I doing wrong here?!?
> 
>  Running 385 (because I haven't had time to d/l an update
>  over dial-up) on win7 32-bit home.
> 
>  Tnx
> 
>  Cheryl
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Vanishing Spouses?

[singhals]

Cathy Pinner wrote:
> Hi Cheryl,

Hi.

>
> Did you find they had extra marriages?

No; they had NO marriage.

> To avoid problems like this.

The easy way to avoid it was to have not misread the doc
first time around.

>
> 1.  always attach children to a couple rather than one parent if both
> parents are in the database. If you link to just a mother or just a
> father, you'll create an extra "marriage" for them to unknown.
>

I had/have no interest in re-keying 50 or so descendants
just because I omitted Brother A's wife and substituted
Brother B's wife.  Unlink/link ought to be able to deal with
that.

> 2. when adding a partner to someone with children, check whether you
> are adding them to the current "marriage" or a new one. If a new one,
> you'll create the 1/2 kids problem.

Since Brother B had no wife until I tried to link one to
him, this ought not to have applied.

> Note the checkbox: Add this person to the currently displayed marriage.

Can't say I've ever seen a checkbox for that; I DO
occasionally, at the whim of the computer, see a question
Add this person as a Spouse to (some name here).

>

> Cathy
>
> At 11:28 PM 23/04/2014, you wrote:
>> Thanks, Cathy, but if I'm understanding Problem 11
>> correctly, it doesn't apply.
>>
>> And, considering what happened just now, it may just be that
>> what I'm doing is causing temporary memory/pointer/poke
>> problems.  Which ATC isn't unreasonable.
>>
>> Cheryl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cathy Pinner wrote:
>>> Hi Cheryl,
>>>
>>> It sounds as if you are creating extra marriages. Look at the
>>> marriage icon in Family View. How many times does it say the wife has
>>> been married? I suspect you are ending up having her married to an
>>> unknown/blank with the children and then married to the right John
>>> Deaux but not had any kids with him.
>>>
>>> Sounds like the John Deaux may also have two marriages - one with the
>>> kids and no wife and one with the wife and no kids.
>>>
>>> When you add a partner to a person with children, you have to make
>>> sure you are adding them to the right "family".
>>>
>>> There's a good right up on correcting incorrect links at
>>> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/tipsRelationshipProblems.asp
>>>
>>> I think it's Problem 11 you need to read carefully for the initial
>>> problem you were trying to correct but now some of the others apply.
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>>
>>>
>>> At 12:38 AM 23/04/2014, you wrote:
 Occasionally I go to change a spouse who has been
 erroneously linked with the wrong John Deaux.

 EACH time I do that, the right John Deaux vanishes, leaving
 me with the right wife and the right children, but no Daddy.
 When I pull up Deaux-dad, the wife isn't there, but the
 kiddles are all showing as 1/2s. If I close the program and
 re-open, it corrects itself -- until I edit any of the
 children, and try to go back to the parents of whom only the
 right wife is showing.  It gets tiresome.

 What the /flip/ am I doing wrong here?!?

 Running 385 (because I haven't had time to d/l an update
 over dial-up) on win7 32-bit home.

 Tnx

 Cheryl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Vanishing Spouses?

[Cathy Pinner]

Hi Cheryl,

Did you find they had extra marriages?
To avoid problems like this.

1.  always attach children to a couple rather than one parent if both
parents are in the database. If you link to just a mother or just a
father, you'll create an extra "marriage" for them to unknown.

2. when adding a partner to someone with children, check whether you
are adding them to the current "marriage" or a new one. If a new one,
you'll create the 1/2 kids problem.
Note the checkbox: Add this person to the currently displayed marriage.

Cathy

At 11:28 PM 23/04/2014, you wrote:
>Thanks, Cathy, but if I'm understanding Problem 11
>correctly, it doesn't apply.
>
>And, considering what happened just now, it may just be that
>what I'm doing is causing temporary memory/pointer/poke
>problems.  Which ATC isn't unreasonable.
>
>Cheryl
>
>
>
>
>Cathy Pinner wrote:
> > Hi Cheryl,
> >
> > It sounds as if you are creating extra marriages. Look at the
> > marriage icon in Family View. How many times does it say the wife has
> > been married? I suspect you are ending up having her married to an
> > unknown/blank with the children and then married to the right John
> > Deaux but not had any kids with him.
> >
> > Sounds like the John Deaux may also have two marriages - one with the
> > kids and no wife and one with the wife and no kids.
> >
> > When you add a partner to a person with children, you have to make
> > sure you are adding them to the right "family".
> >
> > There's a good right up on correcting incorrect links at
> > http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/tipsRelationshipProblems.asp
> >
> > I think it's Problem 11 you need to read carefully for the initial
> > problem you were trying to correct but now some of the others apply.
> >
> > Cathy
> >
> >
> > At 12:38 AM 23/04/2014, you wrote:
> >> Occasionally I go to change a spouse who has been
> >> erroneously linked with the wrong John Deaux.
> >>
> >> EACH time I do that, the right John Deaux vanishes, leaving
> >> me with the right wife and the right children, but no Daddy.
> >>When I pull up Deaux-dad, the wife isn't there, but the
> >> kiddles are all showing as 1/2s. If I close the program and
> >> re-open, it corrects itself -- until I edit any of the
> >> children, and try to go back to the parents of whom only the
> >> right wife is showing.  It gets tiresome.
> >>
> >> What the /flip/ am I doing wrong here?!?
> >>
> >> Running 385 (because I haven't had time to d/l an update
> >> over dial-up) on win7 32-bit home.
> >>
> >> Tnx
> >>
> >> Cheryl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected

[Cathy Pinner]

Gather My Media changes the links so that you
don't have to relink everything yourself. Note
that it only works if all the links are good. If
some aren't it will tell you to run the Media Relinker first.

Exactly how it works depends on the options chosen within it.

It copies media that are not in YOUR default
media folder you've selected at Options 6.2 to YOUR default media folder.
If the default media folder has sub-folders,
media there is left alone unless you check:
Copy files from Sub Folders within the Media Folder up to the main Media Folder
That's the option that flattens your sub-folders.

To say that in a different way as it's vital.

Note that if you haven't designated the parent
folder of your sub-folders as your default media
folder, then all the media will be copied to
whatever folder Legacy thinks is your default
media folder and the sub-folder structure will be
lost whether this checkbox is checked or not.

You MUST tell Legacy that the parent folder of
your media sub-folders is the Default Media Folder.

Cathy

At 06:28 AM 24/04/2014, you wrote:
>So if you use Gather My Media, will it move
>where you currently have your photos from
>multiple folders?  Will you have to relink
>everything from everywhere individually on your own?
>God bless,
>Ellen
>
>
>--
>From: "Paul Gray" 
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:23:32 PM
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected
>
>Bill,
>
>I agree with you. I have my multimedia
>collection organised (well, sort of organised)
>the way I want it in a series of folders and
>subfolders. I do not use the “Legacy Multimedia” folder.
>
>· Some of the images are genealogy related, others not.
>
>· Only a very small portion of even the
>genealogical images will ever be linked in
>Legacy. I have many photos of Grandma, but not
>all of them are linked to Legacy.
>
>· I have a backup strategy which backs
>up all of my multimedia at once, regardless of
>whether it is genealogical or not or whether it
>is linked to Legacy or not. For this reason, I
>find the Legacy multimedia backup very limited
>(and I don’t use it) because as I understand
>it, it only backs up those images that are
>linked to a person, event, or source. I want to
>back up all photos of Grandma, not just those linked in Legacy.
>
>My two cents…….<¦.
>
>Paul Gray
>
>From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
>Sent: April-22-14 10:16 AM
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected
>
>I prefer for mine to be where they've always
>been in my own folders and subfolders.  Mine are
>all categorized.  I don't like them all lumped
>into one folder.  It's too hard to find images if they're all in one place.
>
>William Boswell
>
>From: Paula Ryburn
>[mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
>Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:08 PM
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected
>
>Okay, so I've finally upgraded to v8.
>I see that my database has been copied to My Documents and converted.
>However, none of my charts or pictures have been
>moved out of the old Legacy folders.
>Did you guys all move your images over to the My
>Documents area?  Pros/cons of doing so?
>
>I guess I expected the old Legacy folders to go
>away... or at least that once I had successfully
>upgraded, they were obsolete & could be
>deleted.  What's the strategy behind this sort
>of split implementation?  Some stuff in the new
>location and some stuff in the old location?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>--Paula in Texas
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected

[Brian/Support]

It does not move files, it makes copies in the destination. It will
update the links for all media to point to the new location.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 23/04/2014 6:28 PM, familyhistoryl...@comcast.net wrote:
> So if you use Gather My Media, will it move where you currently have your 
> photos from multiple folders? Will you have to relink everything from 
> everywhere individually on your own?
> God bless,
> Ellen
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Paul Gray" 
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:23:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
>
>
> I agree with you. I have my multimedia collection organised (well, sort of 
> organised) the way I want it in a series of folders and subfolders. I do not 
> use the “Legacy Multimedia” folder.
>
>
>
> · Some of the images are genealogy related, others not.
>
>
>
> · Only a very small portion of even the genealogical images will ever be 
> linked in Legacy. I have many photos of Grandma, but not all of them are 
> linked to Legacy.
>
>
>
> · I have a backup strategy which backs up all of my multimedia at once, 
> regardless of whether it is genealogical or not or whether it is linked to 
> Legacy or not. For this reason, I find the Legacy multimedia backup very 
> limited (and I don’t use it) because as I understand it, it only backs up 
> those images that are linked to a person, event, or source. I want to back up 
> all photos of Grandma, not just those linked in Legacy.
>
>
>
> My two cents…….
>
>
>
> Paul Gray
>
>
>
>
> From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: April-22-14 10:16 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected
>
>
>
>
> I prefer for mine to be where they've always been in my own folders and 
> subfolders. Mine are all categorized. I don't like them all lumped into one 
> folder. It's too hard to find images if they're all in one place.
>
>
>
> William Boswell
>
>
>
>
> From: Paula Ryburn [ mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net ]
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:08 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected
>
>
>
>
>
> Okay, so I've finally upgraded to v8.
>
>
> I see that my database has been copied to My Documents and converted.
>
>
> However, none of my charts or pictures have been moved out of the old Legacy 
> folders.
>
>
> Did you guys all move your images over to the My Documents area? Pros/cons of 
> doing so?
>
>
>
>
>
> I guess I expected the old Legacy folders to go away... or at least that once 
> I had successfully upgraded, they were obsolete & could be deleted. What's 
> the strategy behind this sort of split implementation? Some stuff in the new 
> location and some stuff in the old location?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
>
>
> --Paula in Texas
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Media Files

[Cathy Pinner]

Hi Howland,

The latest build is 414. Must be time to recheck the internet. If you
click the Updates header on the Home Tab you get a dialogue where you
can check.
Or in the Options on the Home Tab - choose Check the internet now.
It sounds as if you haven't closed down for some time as restarting
Legacy usually shows up the new build.

Re the pics problem.
Note in the Media Relinker there is a checkbox with the option to
unlink missing media files.

This will solve your problem if you are sure you have replaced the
files with different copies.

Cathy

At 01:21 AM 24/04/2014, you wrote:
>Jenny:
>
>Instead of letting Legacy look for the missing files navigate to each
>one yourself and when Legacy says something like "original file was xxx,
>do you want to use this one which is yyy?" you tell it you do.  Legacy
>will then stop looking for the original filename and recognize the new
>filename.
>
>
>
> That is what I expected to happen and did happen on the other
> twenty missing files when I started the media file check
> yesterday.  I clicked on the correct picture but it showed the
> picture as a new picture with no caption, date, description or file
> ID so I filled in the information and continued with the other five
> files of interest.  The rest of the files were fixed as you
> said.  So I now get those six as still missing but they are not.
>
>Howland Davis
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jenny M Benson 
>To: legacyusergroup 
>Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 2014 12:59 pm
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Media Files
>
>
>On 23/04/2014 15:55, Howlanddavisii wrote:
> > I recently printed a list of missing media files and corrected them.
> > However apparently for five of them I must have given different file
> > names because I still get a list showing those five.  Is there a way to
> > tell Legacy 8.0 Family Tree that those old file names are no longer good
> > and should be deleted so the Missing Media list shows no files missing?
> >   I have version 8.0.0.352 and it says that that is the latest build.
>
>Instead of letting Legacy look for the missing files navigate to each
>one yourself and when Legacy says something like "original file was xxx,
>do you want to use this one which is yyy?" you tell it you do.  Legacy
>will then stop looking for the original filename and recognize the new
>filename.
>
>--
>Jenny M Benson
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected

[familyhistorylady]

So if you use Gather My Media, will it move where you currently have your 
photos from multiple folders? Will you have to relink everything from 
everywhere individually on your own?
God bless,
Ellen

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From: "Paul Gray" 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:23:32 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected



Bill,



I agree with you. I have my multimedia collection organised (well, sort of 
organised) the way I want it in a series of folders and subfolders. I do not 
use the “Legacy Multimedia” folder.



· Some of the images are genealogy related, others not.



· Only a very small portion of even the genealogical images will ever be linked 
in Legacy. I have many photos of Grandma, but not all of them are linked to 
Legacy.



· I have a backup strategy which backs up all of my multimedia at once, 
regardless of whether it is genealogical or not or whether it is linked to 
Legacy or not. For this reason, I find the Legacy multimedia backup very 
limited (and I don’t use it) because as I understand it, it only backs up those 
images that are linked to a person, event, or source. I want to back up all 
photos of Grandma, not just those linked in Legacy.



My two cents…….



Paul Gray




From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-22-14 10:16 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected




I prefer for mine to be where they've always been in my own folders and 
subfolders. Mine are all categorized. I don't like them all lumped into one 
folder. It's too hard to find images if they're all in one place.



William Boswell




From: Paula Ryburn [ mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net ]
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:08 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected





Okay, so I've finally upgraded to v8.


I see that my database has been copied to My Documents and converted.


However, none of my charts or pictures have been moved out of the old Legacy 
folders.


Did you guys all move your images over to the My Documents area? Pros/cons of 
doing so?





I guess I expected the old Legacy folders to go away... or at least that once I 
had successfully upgraded, they were obsolete & could be deleted. What's the 
strategy behind this sort of split implementation? Some stuff in the new 
location and some stuff in the old location?





Thanks in advance!





--Paula in Texas



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RE: [LegacyUG] Event Definition Sentence

[Charles Apple]

Thanks Jenny and Brian. Your information helped me to better understand event 
sentence structure in Legacy 8.

Charles

-Original Message-
From: Charles Apple [mailto:apple1...@centurylink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:52 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Event Definition Sentence

I have noticed that Legacy 8 does not contain the [Notes] and [Sources] 
placeholders in the default event sentences, however, files that were converted 
from Legacy 7.5 to Legacy 8 display properly with Notes and Sources. Is there a 
reason why the [Notes] and [Sources] variables were left out? Are they 
redundant or not needed? I am not having a problem, but I am trying to 
understand why the Event Sentences in Legacy 8 are different from those in 
Legacy 7.5.

I have checked the LUG archives and the Legacy 8 manual, and cannot find a 
satisfactory answer to my question. I am using Legacy 8 Deluxe version 
8.0.0.414.

Thank you for your assistance,

Charles




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't "get it"!

[Brian/Support]

Because the email is from you (from address) but is being sent by the
list email server (legacyusers.com) to yourself and everyone else so it
is not being sent by your email server which is the "normal" way mail is
sent.

Is this warning from your spam software or other software you have
scanning your incoming mail? There may be a setting you need to set to
tell your software the this is an email list or that mail from
legacyusers.com is safe.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 23/04/2014 4:31 PM, elizabeth wrote:
> Wow, why is my email that I sent to the group being flagged with this
> warning...
> "This message may not have been sent by: newi...@gmail.com  Learn
> more
>Report phishing"???
>
> I receive a lot of them but never expected my own sent email to have it
> added!!!
>
>
> Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't "get it"!

[Brian/Support]

Because the email is from you (from address) but is being sent by the
list email server (legacyusers.com) to yourself and everyone else so it
is not being sent by your email server which is the "normal" way mail is
sent.

Is this warning from your spam software or other software you have
scanning your incoming mail? There may be a setting you need to set to
tell your software the this is an email list or that mail from
legacyusers.com is safe.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 23/04/2014 4:31 PM, elizabeth wrote:
> Wow, why is my email that I sent to the group being flagged with this
> warning...
> "This message may not have been sent by: newi...@gmail.com  Learn
> more
>Report phishing"???
>
> I receive a lot of them but never expected my own sent email to have it
> added!!!
>
>
> Elizabeth



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RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't "get it"!

[Michele/Support]

Elizabeth,

You email came through to the list just fine.  I am ccing your email address to 
make sure you get it.



Michele

Technical Support

  mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

  www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 4:31 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't "get it"!



Wow, why is my email that I sent to the group being flagged with this warning...
"This message may not have been sent by: newi...@gmail.com 
   Learn more 
   Report phishing"???

I receive a lot of them but never expected my own sent email to have it added!!!



Elizabeth



On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM, elizabeth mailto:newi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, I would greatly appreciate assistance with sourcing, possibly off-list. I 
have been struggling to understand where to enter the different parts of a 
source for many years and I still don't get it. And yes, I have looked at 
previous posts and help files.

I can't figure out what info goes where in the source.it's just not making 
sense to me.

I guess it depends on how I want it to look when printed out, but what if I 
want to print various parts of my tree in various different ways??

Any help appreciated,

Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't "get it"!

[elizabeth]

Wow, why is my email that I sent to the group being flagged with this
warning...
"This message may not have been sent by: newi...@gmail.com  Learn
more
  Report phishing"???

I receive a lot of them but never expected my own sent email to have it
added!!!


Elizabeth


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM, elizabeth  wrote:

> Hi, I would greatly appreciate assistance with sourcing, possibly
> off-list. I have been struggling to understand where to enter the different
> parts of a source for many years and I still don't get it. And yes, I have
> looked at previous posts and help files.
>
> I can't figure out what info goes where in the source.it's just not
> making sense to me.
>
> I guess it depends on how I want it to look when printed out, but what if
> I want to print various parts of my tree in various different ways??
>
> Any help appreciated,
> Elizabeth
>
>
> Legacy User Group guidelines:
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
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> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
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RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't "get it"!

[Michele/Support]

Elizabeth,

Take a look at this FREE webinar from Geoff…



Sources and Citations Made Simple, Standard and Powerful

http://www.familytreewebinars.com/download.php?webinar_id=201



There is also a handout you can download.  I think this webinar will answer 
most of your questions.  You will get to see Geoff actually entering sources 
and citations so it might make more sense to you.  I think that most, if not 
all, of your questions will be answered.





Michele

Technical Support

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 

www.LegacyFamilyTree.com 



From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:29 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't "get it"!



Hi, I would greatly appreciate assistance with sourcing, possibly off-list. I 
have been struggling to understand where to enter the different parts of a 
source for many years and I still don't get it. And yes, I have looked at 
previous posts and help files.

I can't figure out what info goes where in the source.it's just not making 
sense to me.

I guess it depends on how I want it to look when printed out, but what if I 
want to print various parts of my tree in various different ways??

Any help appreciated,

Elizabeth



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[LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't "get it"!

[elizabeth]

Hi, I would greatly appreciate assistance with sourcing, possibly off-list.
I have been struggling to understand where to enter the different parts of
a source for many years and I still don't get it. And yes, I have looked at
previous posts and help files.

I can't figure out what info goes where in the source.it's just not
making sense to me.

I guess it depends on how I want it to look when printed out, but what if I
want to print various parts of my tree in various different ways??

Any help appreciated,
Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Definition Sentence

[Brian/Support]

Notes and Sources in event sentences in Legacy 8 are redundant. The
Report options in Legacy 8 decide whether notes and sources are included
in the reports not the event sentences. In Legacy 7.5 and earlier those
had to be in the sentence or, even if notes and sources were asked for,
they would not be included.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Charles Apple wrote:
> I have noticed that Legacy 8 does not contain the [Notes] and [Sources]
> placeholders in the default event sentences, however, files that were
> converted from Legacy 7.5 to Legacy 8 display properly with Notes and
> Sources. Is there a reason why the [Notes] and [Sources] variables were left
> out? Are they redundant or not needed? I am not having a problem, but I am
> trying to understand why the Event Sentences in Legacy 8 are different from
> those in Legacy 7.5.
>
> I have checked the LUG archives and the Legacy 8 manual, and cannot find a
> satisfactory answer to my question. I am using Legacy 8 Deluxe version
> 8.0.0.414.
>
> Thank you for your assistance,
>
> Charles



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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Definition Sentence

[Jenny M Benson]

On 23/04/2014 18:52, Charles Apple wrote:
> I have noticed that Legacy 8 does not contain the [Notes] and [Sources]
> placeholders in the default event sentences, however, files that were
> converted from Legacy 7.5 to Legacy 8 display properly with Notes and
> Sources. Is there a reason why the [Notes] and [Sources] variables were left
> out? Are they redundant or not needed?

Apparently so, as I just used a Legacy-created Event (ie one which I had
never used before and not altered the default sentence), entered some
text in the Notes field and added a Source.  I then ran an Individual
Report for that person, making sure I selected to Include Event
Information and checked add Event Notes in Event Options, and also
selected to Print Source Citations.

The Event was listed in the Report with both the Event Notes and the
Source for it.

--
Jenny M Benson



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[LegacyUG] Event Definition Sentence

[Charles Apple]

I have noticed that Legacy 8 does not contain the [Notes] and [Sources]
placeholders in the default event sentences, however, files that were
converted from Legacy 7.5 to Legacy 8 display properly with Notes and
Sources. Is there a reason why the [Notes] and [Sources] variables were left
out? Are they redundant or not needed? I am not having a problem, but I am
trying to understand why the Event Sentences in Legacy 8 are different from
those in Legacy 7.5.

I have checked the LUG archives and the Legacy 8 manual, and cannot find a
satisfactory answer to my question. I am using Legacy 8 Deluxe version
8.0.0.414.

Thank you for your assistance,

Charles




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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Media Files

[Howlanddavisii]

Jenny:

Instead of letting Legacy look for the missing files navigate to each
one yourself and when Legacy says something like "original file was xxx,
do you want to use this one which is yyy?" you tell it you do.  Legacy
will then stop looking for the original filename and recognize the new
filename.




That is what I expected to happen and did happen on the other twenty 
missing files when I started the media file check yesterday.  I clicked on the 
correct picture but it showed the picture as a new picture with no caption, 
date, description or file ID so I filled in the information and continued with 
the other five files of interest.  The rest of the files were fixed as you 
said.  So I now get those six as still missing but they are not.

Howland Davis

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson 
To: legacyusergroup 
Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 2014 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Media Files


On 23/04/2014 15:55, Howlanddavisii wrote:
> I recently printed a list of missing media files and corrected them.
> However apparently for five of them I must have given different file
> names because I still get a list showing those five.  Is there a way to
> tell Legacy 8.0 Family Tree that those old file names are no longer good
> and should be deleted so the Missing Media list shows no files missing?
>   I have version 8.0.0.352 and it says that that is the latest build.

Instead of letting Legacy look for the missing files navigate to each
one yourself and when Legacy says something like "original file was xxx,
do you want to use this one which is yyy?" you tell it you do.  Legacy
will then stop looking for the original filename and recognize the new
filename.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Media Files

[Jenny M Benson]

On 23/04/2014 15:55, Howlanddavisii wrote:
> I recently printed a list of missing media files and corrected them.
> However apparently for five of them I must have given different file
> names because I still get a list showing those five.  Is there a way to
> tell Legacy 8.0 Family Tree that those old file names are no longer good
> and should be deleted so the Missing Media list shows no files missing?
>   I have version 8.0.0.352 and it says that that is the latest build.

Instead of letting Legacy look for the missing files navigate to each
one yourself and when Legacy says something like "original file was xxx,
do you want to use this one which is yyy?" you tell it you do.  Legacy
will then stop looking for the original filename and recognize the new
filename.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Right-clicking

[Jenny M Benson]

On 22/04/2014 19:32, Sherry/Support wrote:
> However if you right click on the info for the husband or wife, then
> the edit screen comes up.

I get the little menu if I click *anywhere* in the Family View screen.

I don't know why anyone would want to right-click the name to get the
Edit screen when left-clicking does the job!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Media Files

[MikeFry]

On 23 Apr 2014 16:55, Howlanddavisii wrote:

> I recently printed a list of missing media files and corrected them. However
> apparently for five of them I must have given different file names because I
> still get a list showing those five.  Is there a way to tell Legacy 8.0 Family
> Tree that those old file names are no longer good and should be deleted so the
> Missing Media list shows no files missing?

It could be that the media files were referenced in multiple places. I came
across a situation today in 7.5, where I'd renamed an image file. Checking
revealed one reference, so I changed that one and ran the error report again and
still had one reference to a missing image.

So, worth running the report until there are no errors!

Is it possible that there is a bug here? The checking process constructing a
list of files and all their references and not bothering to check all the
references of a file once it has been identified as missing.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Vanishing Spouses?

[singhals]

Thanks, Cathy, but if I'm understanding Problem 11
correctly, it doesn't apply.

And, considering what happened just now, it may just be that
what I'm doing is causing temporary memory/pointer/poke
problems.  Which ATC isn't unreasonable.

Cheryl




Cathy Pinner wrote:
> Hi Cheryl,
>
> It sounds as if you are creating extra marriages. Look at the
> marriage icon in Family View. How many times does it say the wife has
> been married? I suspect you are ending up having her married to an
> unknown/blank with the children and then married to the right John
> Deaux but not had any kids with him.
>
> Sounds like the John Deaux may also have two marriages - one with the
> kids and no wife and one with the wife and no kids.
>
> When you add a partner to a person with children, you have to make
> sure you are adding them to the right "family".
>
> There's a good right up on correcting incorrect links at
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/tipsRelationshipProblems.asp
>
> I think it's Problem 11 you need to read carefully for the initial
> problem you were trying to correct but now some of the others apply.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> At 12:38 AM 23/04/2014, you wrote:
>> Occasionally I go to change a spouse who has been
>> erroneously linked with the wrong John Deaux.
>>
>> EACH time I do that, the right John Deaux vanishes, leaving
>> me with the right wife and the right children, but no Daddy.
>>When I pull up Deaux-dad, the wife isn't there, but the
>> kiddles are all showing as 1/2s. If I close the program and
>> re-open, it corrects itself -- until I edit any of the
>> children, and try to go back to the parents of whom only the
>> right wife is showing.  It gets tiresome.
>>
>> What the /flip/ am I doing wrong here?!?
>>
>> Running 385 (because I haven't had time to d/l an update
>> over dial-up) on win7 32-bit home.
>>
>> Tnx
>>
>> Cheryl




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[LegacyUG] Missing Media Files

[Howlanddavisii]

 I recently printed a list of missing media files and corrected them.  
However apparently for five of them I must have given different file names 
because I still get a list showing those five.  Is there a way to tell Legacy 
8.0 Family Tree that those old file names are no longer good and should be 
deleted so the Missing Media list shows no files missing?
 I have version 8.0.0.352 and it says that that is the latest build.

Howland Davis



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Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem.

[magnoliasouth]

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:
> You can access the Potential Problems Options in several different ways.
>
> 1) Shift plus right click on a PP alert.

I knew this one, but I thought that was for each individual,

> 2) Tools Ribbon -  in the Family  Files Tool section on the left -
> Potential Problems

This is the one I was looking for. Oh my goodness! I knew it was right
there but these eyes just were not seeing them.

> ...I wonder where the help file is wrong? You seem to have got into a
> section talking about the way PPs can be identified when you're
> working with FamilySearch.

Yeah, I thought I was in the Twilight Zone. LOL! That was really
weird. Yet I couldn't find another reference to it anywhere.

Thank you so for that! I appreciate all things,

Cindy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Right-clicking

[Randy Clark]

To Cindy and Cathy: Clarifying--By info I mean those items below the
solid line indicating the active person. When clicking above that line the
context menu would sometimes appear and sometimes not. As for
right-clicking, it's in my blood.


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Right click brings up a context sensitive menu.
>
> Left click on a person in the "parent" position opens the edit screen
> whether you click on the name or on the details.
>
> Why right click and then have to click on edit?
>
> Legacy 8 has less dependence on right click menus than the past.
>
> Perhaps everyone needs to relearn how to left click (VBG)
>
> Cathy
>
> At 04:16 AM 23/04/2014, you wrote:
> >On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Sherry/Support
> > wrote:
> > > However if you right click on the info for the husband or wife, then
> > > the edit screen comes up.
> >
> >Hi Sherry,
> >
> >May I stick my nose in here for a minute and clarify what "info"
> >you're talking about? If you're talking about born, died, buried, etc
> >in family view, then I cannot right click and have the edit screen
> >either. I only get the menu.
>
>
>
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