Re: [LegacyUG] Special Large Merge

2014-06-19 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree
Ron,

Thanks for the explanation.

I agreed completely with what you say, but comparing and clicking thru 600
pictures is more like an hour and half rather than a few minutes.

The problem is that the data used was a gedcom of approx 8500 persons
tagged and created from my database of 220,000.
I tagged everyone who had that particular cemetery as their burial place,
then also included the parents, spouses and children in the gedcom, since
they would also likely be buried at the same place.
I did not want the 'volunteer' to have to add any persons.
The gedcom was sent and they also used Legacy 7.5 to enter the links and
pic captions
Then they send the file back to me as a gedcom.

But because Legacy doesnt export a COMPLETE (parental) Family group , I
have all these 'not matching' families

Now, if the question to include spouses, parents and children of tagged
individuals ALSO asked about siblings of tagged persons, then there would
be complete FAMC groups and exact matches when importing the data back into
the original file,


Thanks for taking the time to help out and think thru on this.

Jay















On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Jay,
 First, it is necessary to understand how the GEDCOM was used to insert the
 new picture attachments.  If it was done with a text editor, that could be
 interesting.  If the GEDCOM was loaded into some other genealogy program or
 even another Legacy database and then the pictures were attached, the
 updated file could again be exported to another GEDCOM and that GEDCOM
 imported into a new Legacy database.

 If the only difference between the GEDCOM file and the Legacy file that
 created it are the new picture attachments, you should be able to then
 combine the data from the GEDCOM imported back into Legacy with the
 original Legacy file and execute an Intellishare Merge.  Every record that
 has a new picture attached will bring up the original and the imported file
 for review before merging but the only difference should be the picture
 attached to the imported GEDCOM record.  If that is the case you could
 quickly click through the 600 records allowing them to merge.  If there are
 other fields that someone changed, those would obviously require more
 evaluation before merging.

 It may be possible to merge that in a few minutes if it meets the
 description I've given above.
 Ron Taylor


On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:40 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 
 1familytree@gmail.com wrote:




 I have someone who graciously helped me out in linking over 600 image
 tombstones to the correct persons and added a Pic Caption and Pic Desc to
 over 800 persons

 They entered this info into a gedcom I created from my Legacy7.5 database.
 (I am still using ver 7.5 also)

 All I want to do is take the 800 or so persons that are linked to the 600
 or so images and merge them back into my original file. Updating only the
 link, pic caption and pic descr.

 Anyone have any creative ideas to make that happen??



 The standard merge process is so time consuming.
 (because of diff family sizes, some with , some without spouses, etc. )

 I even have a txt file listing of the new filenames that are now linked up
 (there were already several hundred pic links to this same cemetery, so
 they have the identical IDBPPic in the BR table.)

 Otherwise, I guess my next weekend will be spent
 merging


 Thanks in advance for any help
 Jay


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Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving all LUG posts

2014-06-19 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree
Wendy,

I agree,

I am always surprised how much GOOD mail is getting thrown into my SPAM
folder.  (DMARC relatedarrggg)
I just now found mail from 4 days ago that I thought the person had ignored
me

But I wouldn't recommend using a gmail email address for Lists...

I use Gmail and its great, but the gmail based addresses do not display
your replys or your own emails in SOME lists.
I prefer to see my own email show up in the list along with others
messages.

But that is my own preference.

Jay








On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Since the whole DMARC thing started a while back (a new method of
 detecting spam, with various degrees of success), I've seen list mail
 end up in my spam folder at Gmail every day. It's usually the same names
 over and over again, where they're regular contributors - Ron Taylor on
 this list is one that comes to mind; someone else commented a little
 while ago they had found one of his posts there, so it's not just my
 mail box affecting delivery of his list mail.

 I always mark these emails as 'not spam', and live in hope that one day
 the system will catch up and start recognising list mail for what it is.
 I'm not holding my breath, though, I don't expect a quick fix.

 If this missing mail is not turning up in your mail box anywhere
 (including junk/spam), you could try having a conversation with your
 email provider about the missing mail. (Or you could try pulling a
 fingernail out, it might be less painful and more productive ;-)

 Or you could try subscribing with a different email address, and see if
 that improves things for you. There are plenty of free services out
 there - I recommend Gmail, of course.

 Hope this helps. :-)

 Wendy

 Ward Walker said the following on 16/06/2014 02:39:
  Again I see responses to a post (from yesterday) that I did not
  receive. In looking at the archive, it appears that I am receiving
  almost all posts, but there is no pattern to the ones that I have
  missed. One missed post was even in response to my own thread. (Yes, I
  check my junk mail folder regularly. No, I am not aware of missed
  e-mails from other sources.)
  Probably not much can be done about this, given that Millennia does
  not control the mail server. It happens from time to time. Just wanted
  to alert people that they could also be missing posts.
 Ward



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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census sheets

2014-06-19 Thread singhals
Bryan P wrote:
 Not quite fixed. Intermittent problems as they acknowledge.
 Rootsweb and its freepages seem unavailable at 1620 NZ
 Standard Time, Thursday.

 Bryan


and at 11am EDT in Washington DC.

Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Special Large Merge

2014-06-19 Thread Ron Taylor
My only suggestion at this point is never export to GEDCOM.  Just extract those 
tagged records to a new Legacy file and send it.  Then everything that has not 
changed will automerge with the Intellishare values.  I frequently slice a 
piece of my main database (over 250,000) and send it to collaborators for their 
piece of the pie to update.  When their copy is combined back into the main 
file, I get a few records to review but the majority automerge.  I always 
export with the 3 boxes checked under the All records with an individual tag 
of so that essentially complete family groups are exported.  That does help 
when the data comes back.  You might try combining the new updated file with 
the slice of your main file that was used to create the GEDCOM and then 
evaluate whether it is going to be a problem.  If that works, then combine the 
updated slice back into the main file...otherwise back to more planning.
Ron Taylor


On Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:14 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 
1familytree@gmail.com wrote:



Ron, 

Thanks for the explanation. 

I agreed completely with what you say, but comparing and clicking thru 600 
pictures is more like an hour and half rather than a few minutes.

The problem is that the data used was a gedcom of approx 8500 persons tagged 
and created from my database of 220,000. 
I tagged everyone who had that particular cemetery as their burial place, 
then also included the parents, spouses and children in the gedcom, since they 
would also likely be buried at the same place.
I did not want the 'volunteer' to have to add any persons.
The gedcom was sent and they also used Legacy 7.5 to enter the links and pic 
captions
Then they send the file back to me as a gedcom. 

But because Legacy doesnt export a COMPLETE (parental) Family group , I have 
all these 'not matching' families

Now, if the question to include spouses, parents and children of tagged 
individuals ALSO asked about siblings of tagged persons, then there would be 
complete FAMC groups and exact matches when importing the data back into the 
original file,


Thanks for taking the time to help out and think thru on this. 

Jay 












 



On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

Jay,
First, it is necessary to understand how the GEDCOM was used to insert the new 
picture attachments.  If it was done with a text editor, that could be 
interesting.  If the GEDCOM was loaded into some other genealogy program or 
even another Legacy database and then the pictures were attached, the updated 
file could again be exported to another GEDCOM and that GEDCOM imported into a 
new Legacy database.


If the only difference between the GEDCOM file and the Legacy file that 
created it are the new picture attachments, you should be able to then combine 
the data from the GEDCOM imported back into Legacy with the original Legacy 
file and execute an Intellishare Merge.  Every record that has a new picture 
attached will bring up the original and the imported file for review before 
merging but the only difference should be the picture attached to the imported 
GEDCOM record.  If that is the case you could quickly click through the 600 
records allowing them to merge.  If there are other fields that someone 
changed, those would obviously require more evaluation before merging.


It may be possible to merge that in a few minutes if it meets the description 
I've given above.
Ron Taylor



On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:40 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 
1familytree@gmail.com wrote:







I have someone who graciously helped me out in linking over 600 image 
tombstones to the correct persons and added a Pic Caption and Pic Desc to over 
800 persons

They entered this info into a gedcom I created from my Legacy7.5 database. 
(I am still using ver 7.5 also)

All I want to do is take the 800 or so persons that are linked to the 600 or 
so images and merge them back into my original file. Updating only the link, 
pic caption and pic descr.

Anyone have any creative ideas to make that happen??



The standard merge process is so time consuming. 
(because of diff family sizes, some with , some without spouses, etc. )

I even have a txt file listing of the new filenames that are now linked up
(there were already several hundred pic links to this same cemetery, so they 
have the identical IDBPPic in the BR table.)

Otherwise, I guess my next weekend will be spent 
merging


Thanks in advance for any help
Jay


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Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving all LUG posts

2014-06-19 Thread Ward Walker
Just for the record, as the OP, my missed LUG posts were not in my junk mail 
folder, and they were not simply delayed due to routing variations. They never 
arrived. Looking just now, I see that I have not received Ron Taylor’s posts 
from yesterday or today (or on the 15th). How e-mails from one particular 
individual could routinely fail to be delivered to me by the LUG mail server, I 
do not know.

   Ward

From: Jay 1FamilyTree
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:18 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving all LUG posts

Wendy,

I agree,

I am always surprised how much GOOD mail is getting thrown into my SPAM folder. 
 (DMARC relatedarrggg)
I just now found mail from 4 days ago that I thought the person had ignored 
me

But I wouldn't recommend using a gmail email address for Lists...

I use Gmail and its great, but the gmail based addresses do not display your 
replys or your own emails in SOME lists.
I prefer to see my own email show up in the list along with others messages.

But that is my own preference.

Jay



On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote:

  Since the whole DMARC thing started a while back (a new method of
  detecting spam, with various degrees of success), I've seen list mail
  end up in my spam folder at Gmail every day. It's usually the same names
  over and over again, where they're regular contributors - Ron Taylor on
  this list is one that comes to mind; someone else commented a little
  while ago they had found one of his posts there, so it's not just my
  mail box affecting delivery of his list mail.

  I always mark these emails as 'not spam', and live in hope that one day
  the system will catch up and start recognising list mail for what it is.
  I'm not holding my breath, though, I don't expect a quick fix.

  If this missing mail is not turning up in your mail box anywhere
  (including junk/spam), you could try having a conversation with your
  email provider about the missing mail. (Or you could try pulling a
  fingernail out, it might be less painful and more productive ;-)

  Or you could try subscribing with a different email address, and see if
  that improves things for you. There are plenty of free services out
  there - I recommend Gmail, of course.

  Hope this helps. :-)

  Wendy

  Ward Walker said the following on 16/06/2014 02:39:
   Again I see responses to a post (from yesterday) that I did not
   receive. In looking at the archive, it appears that I am receiving
   almost all posts, but there is no pattern to the ones that I have
   missed. One missed post was even in response to my own thread. (Yes, I
   check my junk mail folder regularly. No, I am not aware of missed
   e-mails from other sources.)
   Probably not much can be done about this, given that Millennia does
   not control the mail server. It happens from time to time. Just wanted
   to alert people that they could also be missing posts.
  Ward




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RE: [LegacyUG] Not receiving all LUG posts

2014-06-19 Thread David Abernathy
Check your “Junk” mail and “Rules” settings.

There may be one that is blocking and deleting emails with this person name, 
email address and etc.



Thanks,

David C Abernathy

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From: Ward Walker [mailto:wnkwal...@rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving all LUG posts



Just for the record, as the OP, my missed LUG posts were not in my junk mail 
folder, and they were not simply delayed due to routing variations. They never 
arrived. Looking just now, I see that I have not received Ron Taylor’s posts 
from yesterday or today (or on the 15th). How e-mails from one particular 
individual could routinely fail to be delivered to me by the LUG mail server, I 
do not know.



   Ward



From: Jay 1FamilyTree mailto:1familytree@gmail.com

Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:18 PM

To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving all LUG posts



Wendy,



I agree,



I am always surprised how much GOOD mail is getting thrown into my SPAM folder. 
 (DMARC relatedarrggg)

I just now found mail from 4 days ago that I thought the person had ignored 
me



But I wouldn't recommend using a gmail email address for Lists...



I use Gmail and its great, but the gmail based addresses do not display your 
replys or your own emails in SOME lists.

I prefer to see my own email show up in the list along with others messages.



But that is my own preference.



Jay






On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote:

Since the whole DMARC thing started a while back (a new method of
detecting spam, with various degrees of success), I've seen list mail
end up in my spam folder at Gmail every day. It's usually the same names
over and over again, where they're regular contributors - Ron Taylor on
this list is one that comes to mind; someone else commented a little
while ago they had found one of his posts there, so it's not just my
mail box affecting delivery of his list mail.

I always mark these emails as 'not spam', and live in hope that one day
the system will catch up and start recognising list mail for what it is.
I'm not holding my breath, though, I don't expect a quick fix.

If this missing mail is not turning up in your mail box anywhere
(including junk/spam), you could try having a conversation with your
email provider about the missing mail. (Or you could try pulling a
fingernail out, it might be less painful and more productive ;-)

Or you could try subscribing with a different email address, and see if
that improves things for you. There are plenty of free services out
there - I recommend Gmail, of course.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Ward Walker said the following on 16/06/2014 02:39:
 Again I see responses to a post (from yesterday) that I did not
 receive. In looking at the archive, it appears that I am receiving
 almost all posts, but there is no pattern to the ones that I have
 missed. One missed post was even in response to my own thread. (Yes, I
 check my junk mail folder regularly. No, I am not aware of missed
 e-mails from other sources.)
 Probably not much can be done about this, given that Millennia does
 not control the mail server. It happens from time to time. Just wanted
 to alert people that they could also be missing posts.
Ward



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RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census sheets

2014-06-19 Thread Ron Bernier
Why has this become the Ancestry update list?  It's one thing to discuss how to 
source information from Ancestry and/or find a grave, but why do so many people 
feel the need to provide Ancestry.com status updates?  The status of Ancestry 
and/or any of its affiliates really has nothing to do with Legacy.  If I need a 
status update, I will check Ancestry myself - I'm perfectly capable.

Ron Bernier

-Original Message-
From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:23 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census 
sheets

Bryan P wrote:
 Not quite fixed. Intermittent problems as they acknowledge.
 Rootsweb and its freepages seem unavailable at 1620 NZ Standard Time,
 Thursday.

 Bryan


and at 11am EDT in Washington DC.

Cheryl



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RE: [LegacyUG] Not receiving all LUG posts

2014-06-19 Thread Ron Bernier
You may have an issue that you need to discuss with your ISP service provider.  
There may be something about the missing emails that is causing Rogers to dump 
them before they ever reach your address.



Ron Bernier



From: Ward Walker [mailto:wnkwal...@rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving all LUG posts



Just for the record, as the OP, my missed LUG posts were not in my junk mail 
folder, and they were not simply delayed due to routing variations. They never 
arrived. Looking just now, I see that I have not received Ron Taylor’s posts 
from yesterday or today (or on the 15th). How e-mails from one particular 
individual could routinely fail to be delivered to me by the LUG mail server, I 
do not know.



   Ward



From: Jay 1FamilyTree mailto:1familytree@gmail.com

Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:18 PM

To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving all LUG posts



Wendy,



I agree,



I am always surprised how much GOOD mail is getting thrown into my SPAM folder. 
 (DMARC relatedarrggg)

I just now found mail from 4 days ago that I thought the person had ignored 
me



But I wouldn't recommend using a gmail email address for Lists...



I use Gmail and its great, but the gmail based addresses do not display your 
replys or your own emails in SOME lists.

I prefer to see my own email show up in the list along with others messages.



But that is my own preference.



Jay






On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com 
mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com  wrote:

Since the whole DMARC thing started a while back (a new method of
detecting spam, with various degrees of success), I've seen list mail
end up in my spam folder at Gmail every day. It's usually the same names
over and over again, where they're regular contributors - Ron Taylor on
this list is one that comes to mind; someone else commented a little
while ago they had found one of his posts there, so it's not just my
mail box affecting delivery of his list mail.

I always mark these emails as 'not spam', and live in hope that one day
the system will catch up and start recognising list mail for what it is.
I'm not holding my breath, though, I don't expect a quick fix.

If this missing mail is not turning up in your mail box anywhere
(including junk/spam), you could try having a conversation with your
email provider about the missing mail. (Or you could try pulling a
fingernail out, it might be less painful and more productive ;-)

Or you could try subscribing with a different email address, and see if
that improves things for you. There are plenty of free services out
there - I recommend Gmail, of course.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Ward Walker said the following on 16/06/2014 02:39:
 Again I see responses to a post (from yesterday) that I did not
 receive. In looking at the archive, it appears that I am receiving
 almost all posts, but there is no pattern to the ones that I have
 missed. One missed post was even in response to my own thread. (Yes, I
 check my junk mail folder regularly. No, I am not aware of missed
 e-mails from other sources.)
 Probably not much can be done about this, given that Millennia does
 not control the mail server. It happens from time to time. Just wanted
 to alert people that they could also be missing posts.
Ward



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RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census sheets

2014-06-19 Thread David Abernathy
Because people are trying to SEARCH Ancestry and they can NOT.

Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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-Original Message-
From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@outlook.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:58 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census 
sheets

Why has this become the Ancestry update list?  It's one thing to discuss how to 
source information from Ancestry and/or find a grave, but why do so many people 
feel the need to provide Ancestry.com status updates?  The status of Ancestry 
and/or any of its affiliates really has nothing to do with Legacy.  If I need a 
status update, I will check Ancestry myself - I'm perfectly capable.

Ron Bernier

-Original Message-
From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:23 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census 
sheets

Bryan P wrote:
 Not quite fixed. Intermittent problems as they acknowledge.
 Rootsweb and its freepages seem unavailable at 1620 NZ Standard Time,
 Thursday.

 Bryan


and at 11am EDT in Washington DC.

Cheryl



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[LegacyUG] Does mark as not spam do any good?

2014-06-19 Thread Dee Ziegler
Some, not all, LUG posts are in my gmail spam filter every day. I routinely
click the BOX on them, MARK as not spam, then later read them in my inbox
-- instead of deleting directly from spam. Does that do any good?

I get very few actual spam messages, perhaps one or two a day. Browser is
Chrome, if that matters. Dee




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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census sheets

2014-06-19 Thread Ron Bernier
And that is a Legacy problem why?  Legacy doesn't own Ancestry.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 19, 2014, at 4:13 PM, David Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com 
 wrote:

 Because people are trying to SEARCH Ancestry and they can NOT.

 Thanks,
 David C Abernathy
 Email disclaimers
 
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 == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  ==

 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@outlook.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census 
 sheets

 Why has this become the Ancestry update list?  It's one thing to discuss how 
 to source information from Ancestry and/or find a grave, but why do so many 
 people feel the need to provide Ancestry.com status updates?  The status of 
 Ancestry and/or any of its affiliates really has nothing to do with Legacy.  
 If I need a status update, I will check Ancestry myself - I'm perfectly 
 capable.

 Ron Bernier

 -Original Message-
 From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:23 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census 
 sheets

 Bryan P wrote:
 Not quite fixed. Intermittent problems as they acknowledge.
 Rootsweb and its freepages seem unavailable at 1620 NZ Standard Time,
 Thursday.

 Bryan

 and at 11am EDT in Washington DC.

 Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census sheets

2014-06-19 Thread Sherry/Support
Ok, enough you two! Ron, you're correct, this is not a Legacy issue
and the discussion shouldn't not continue on this list.

I'm sure Ancestry has a blog for discussing issues with that website.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@outlook.com wrote:
 And that is a Legacy problem why?  Legacy doesn't own Ancestry.

 Ron Bernier
 Woonsocket, RI
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 19, 2014, at 4:13 PM, David Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com 
 wrote:

 Because people are trying to SEARCH Ancestry and they can NOT.

 Thanks,
 David C Abernathy
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 == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  ==

 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@outlook.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census 
 sheets

 Why has this become the Ancestry update list?  It's one thing to discuss how 
 to source information from Ancestry and/or find a grave, but why do so many 
 people feel the need to provide Ancestry.com status updates?  The status of 
 Ancestry and/or any of its affiliates really has nothing to do with Legacy.  
 If I need a status update, I will check Ancestry myself - I'm perfectly 
 capable.

 Ron Bernier




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Re: [LegacyUG] Does mark as not spam do any good?

2014-06-19 Thread Eliz Hanebury
Eventually it works to mark them not spam but the senders addy is
also a factor. Just keep marking them not Spam G right now half my
email to the list is marked May not be from sender  but at least
it isn't in spam.
Eliz
Not Today and Not without a Fight
(Anon)

For all that has been, thanks.
For all that will be, yes.
(Dag Hammarskjold)


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Dee Ziegler dee.zieg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some, not all, LUG posts are in my gmail spam filter every day. I routinely
 click the BOX on them, MARK as not spam, then later read them in my inbox
 -- instead of deleting directly from spam. Does that do any good?

 I get very few actual spam messages, perhaps one or two a day. Browser is
 Chrome, if that matters. Dee
 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census sheets

2014-06-19 Thread David Abernathy
If one can not find data, then one can not enter any found data in thier Legacy 
database.

Besides a DDoS is a major problem and ANY website can be hit with one.

Sent from my Kindle Fire
In God We Trust



_
From: Ron Bernier ronaldbern...@outlook.com
Sent: Thu Jun 19 13:28:25 PDT 2014
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census 
sheets


And that is a Legacy problem why? Legacy doesn't own Ancestry.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 19, 2014, at 4:13 PM, David Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com 
 wrote:

 Because people are trying to SEARCH Ancestry and they can NOT.

 Thanks,
 David C Abernathy
 Email disclaimers
_

 This message represents the official view of the voices in my head.
_

 http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com
 == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus ==

 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@outlook.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census 
 sheets

 Why has this become the Ancestry update list? It's one thing to discuss how 
 to source information from Ancestry and/or find a grave, but why do so many 
 people feel the need to provide Ancestry.com status updates? The status of 
 Ancestry and/or any of its affiliates really has nothing to do with Legacy. 
 If I need a status update, I will check Ancestry myself - I'm perfectly 
 capable.

 Ron Bernier

 -Original Message-
 From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:23 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry, not able to connect to the image of census 
 sheets

 Bryan P wrote:
 Not quite fixed. Intermittent problems as they acknowledge.
 Rootsweb and its freepages seem unavailable at 1620 NZ Standard Time,
 Thursday.

 Bryan

 and at 11am EDT in Washington DC.

 Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Does mark as not spam do any good?

2014-06-19 Thread Kelly Booth
Put the legacyusergroup email in your contacts.  That will stop it from going 
to spam. 


On Thursday, June 19, 2014 5:33 PM, Eliz Hanebury elizhg...@gmail.com wrote:



Eventually it works to mark them not spam but the senders addy is
also a factor. Just keep marking them not Spam G right now half my
email to the list is marked May not be from sender  but at least
it isn't in spam.
Eliz
Not Today and Not without a Fight
(Anon)

For all that has been, thanks.
For all that will be, yes.
    (Dag Hammarskjold)


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 Some, not all, LUG posts are in my gmail spam filter every day. I routinely
 click the BOX on them, MARK as not spam, then later read them in my inbox
 -- instead of deleting directly from spam. Does that do any good?

 I get very few actual spam messages, perhaps one or two a day. Browser is
 Chrome, if that matters. Dee
 


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[LegacyUG] Legacy and FamilySearch

2014-06-19 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
If you are using the FamilySearch tools in Legacy, then this brief
announcement applies to you. If not, don't worry about it.

Minutes ago it appears that FamilySearch made some changes that affected
our FamilySearch tools in Legacy. The effect is that you will not be able
to see the FamilySearch data that you may have linked to. We are working to
provide an update to Legacy that will restore this functionality. Watch
this blog for the announcement of the free update. In the meantime,
probably don't use the FamilySearch tools in Legacy for now.

Ah...the wonderful world of changing technology

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/



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[LegacyUG] Duplicate search shows dup

2014-06-19 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree
I have discovered that when there are tab in an event field vs, the
(hidden) character Legacy considers this as not a duplicate?
I am using Legacy Ver 7.5


Sourced from the same original gedcom and  exported to a gedcom that was
used in another Legacy ver 7.5 file, then that file was exported out as a
gedcom and being imported back into the original gedcom

This persons record was not changed and still shows the last modified date
of 1/3/2012
But is not merged as a duplicate because the one event has tab

Name:tabFrederick Dressen
Arrival Date:tab6 Jul 1858
Birth Year:tababt 1804
Age:tab54
Gender:tabMale
Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality:tabDutch
Place of Origin:tabHolland, Netherlands
Port of Departure:tabLe Havre, France
Destination:tabUnited States of America
Port of Arrival:tabNew York
Port Arrival State:tabNew York
Port Arrival Country:tabUnited States
Ship Name:tabWm Nelson

vs the event from the other record

Name: Frederick Dressen
Arrival Date: 6 Jul 1858
Birth Year: abt 1804
Age: 54
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality: Dutch
Place of Origin: Holland, Netherlands
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Wm Nelson



Strangely, both files show the last modified date and time stamp exactly
the same, but they have different intellishare numbers.

Just thought this 'might' be considered a bug.

Personally I would like to see them automatically merged, but mabe others
might have a ?reason? why they would not want them merged.

If there is any workaround to have Legacy automatically ,erge these, let me
know.

Thanks

Jay



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Re: [LegacyUG] Not receiving all LUG posts

2014-06-19 Thread Charlene C
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since the whole DMARC thing started a while back (a new method of
 detecting spam, with various degrees of success), I've seen list mail
 end up in my spam folder at Gmail every day. It's usually the same names
 over and over again, where they're regular contributors - Ron Taylor on
 this list is one that comes to mind; someone else commented a little
 while ago they had found one of his posts there, so it's not just my
 mail box affecting delivery of his list mail.

 I always mark these emails as 'not spam', and live in hope that one day
 the system will catch up and start recognising list mail for what it is.
 I'm not holding my breath, though, I don't expect a quick fix.


Basically Yahoo broke the way internet lists work with their DMARC
solution. The emails going to the Spam folder are from Yahoo or
Yahoo-owned domains (yahoo.com, att.net, sbcglobal.net, etc.). The
problem needs to be fixed at the list software level. All the other
lists I'm on have now fixed the problem or come up with a temporary
workaround until the a permanent fix is found. I'm not holding my
breath that this list will be fixed any time soon.

--Charlene



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