Re: [LegacyUG] citing website w/obit abstracts

[Cathy Pinner]

Hi Barton,

It doesn't really matter how you use the fields, what matters is the
output. Try it and see. I'd probably use the Article box.
When you're making a template work for something it wasn't really
designed for, that's the price you pay.
Note you've made the Collection you're Master Source so the Collection
field is irrelevant.

You may do better to use an internet database generic template as you're
not really looking at newspapers but a database created from newspapers.

Cathy

BARTON LEWIS wrote:
>
> Thanks, Cathy, I should have said that. I used:
>
> Newspapers - online images (issued by unrelated content provider)
>
> The problem is that the Source Detail for this template does not
> provide a place that I can see where I can indicate who the obit is
> for - other than the "article" field, and that's not really right. The
> fields for the "Detail Information" tab are:
>
> Author Last name
> Author given name
> Author suffix
> Article
> Issue Date
> Page
> Column
> Website title
> URL
> Date accessed
> Collection
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>
> Hi Barton,
> Which template did you use in the SourceWriter?
>
> However, to answer your question - the collection, whatever you
> decide to call it, is the Master Source.
> The name of the person goes in the Source Detail along with any
> other information on the Card. eg the Abstract itself I'd put in
> Source Detail Text. You don't want to make a Master Source for
> every person.
>
> I know the frustration of having newspaper extracts or cuttings
> with no indication of paper or date. One of my aunts was a great
> newspaper clipper but never indicated where it came from or when -
> really helpful when they say things like - the business has been
> established 50 years.
>
> Cathy
>
> Barton Lewis wrote:
>>
>>
>> I’d like advice on how to handle the following. A funeral
>> director in
>> Evansville, IN typed abstracts of thousands of obits over a 50 ye ar
>> period on index cards from local newspapers. Unfortunately, he
>> did not
>> specify the name of the paper or obit’s date on the card. Using
>> the
>> Source Writer, I created a master source “Browning Genealogy�
>> for all
>> these obits. In example 1 below, I entered the italicized text in
>> the
>> field “Title� on the source page, and the quoted text in the
>> field
>> “Article� on the Source Detail page, but I don’t think 
>> this
>> is right.
>> I prefer the second example, where I entered “Obituary
>> abstracts from
>> unspecified Evansville, IN newspapers� in the field
>> “Collection� on
>> the detail page. But I don’t know how to identify who this obit
>> abstract is for. Does anyone have a suggestion as to where/how I
>> could
>> indicate that or another way of handling this problem? Thanks!
>>
>> "Obituary abstract of Orilla (FORD) RAMBO," /unspecified Evansville,
>> IN newspaper/; digital images, /Browning Genealogy/
>> (http://browni ng.evcpl.lib.in.us/ : accessed 14 Oct 2014).
>>
>> digital images, /Browning Genealogy/
>> (http://browning.evcpl.lib.in.us/
>> : accessed 15 Oct 2014), Obituary abstracts from unspecified
>> Evansville, IN newspapers.
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] citing website w/obit abstracts

[BARTON LEWIS]

Thanks, Cathy, I should have said that.  I used:
Newspapers - online images (issued by unrelated content provider)

The problem is that the Source Detail for this template does not provide
a place that I can see where I can indicate who the obit is for - other
than the "article" field, and that's not really right.  The fields for
the "Detail Information" tab are:
Author Last name
Author given name
Author suffix
Article
Issue Date
Page
Column
Website title
URL
Date accessed
Collection

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
Hi Barton,

Which template did you use in the SourceWriter?



However, to answer your question - the collection, whatever you decide
to call it, is the Master Source.

The name of the person goes in the Source Detail along with any other
information on the Card. eg the Abstract itself I'd put in Source Detail
Text. You don't want to make a Master Source for every person.



I know the frustration of having newspaper extracts or cuttings with no
indication of paper or date. One of my aunts was a great newspaper
clipper but never indicated where it came from or when - really helpful
when they say things like - the business has been established 50 years.



Cathy



Barton Lewis wrote:



I’d like advice on how to handle the following. A funeral director in

Evansville, IN typed abstracts of thousands of obits over a 50 ye
ar

period on index cards from local newspapers. Unfortunately, he did not

specify the name of the paper or obit’s date on the card. Using the

Source Writer, I created a master source “Browning Genealogy� for
all

these obits. In example 1 below, I entered the italicized text in the

field “Title� on the source page, and the quoted text in the field

“Article� on the Source Detail page, but I don’t think this is
right.

I prefer the second example, where I entered “Obituary abstracts from

unspecified Evansville, IN newspapers� in the field “Collection�
on

the detail page. But I don’t know how to identify who this obit

abstract is for. Does anyone have a suggestion as to where/how I could

indicate that or another way of handling this problem? Thanks!



"Obituary abstract of Orilla (FORD) RAMBO," /unspecified Evansville,

IN newspaper/; digital images, /Browning Genealogy/

(http://browni
ng.evcpl.lib.in.us/ : accessed 14 Oct 2014).



digital images, /Browning Genealogy/ (http://browning.evcpl.lib.in.us/

: accessed 15 Oct 2014), Obituary abstracts from unspecified

Evansville, IN newspapers.
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Re: [LegacyUG] citing website w/obit abstracts

[Cathy Pinner]

Hi Barton,
Which template did you use in the SourceWriter?

However, to answer your question - the collection, whatever you decide
to call it, is the Master Source.
The name of the person goes in the Source Detail along with any other
information on the Card. eg the Abstract itself I'd put in Source Detail
Text. You don't want to make a Master Source for every person.

I know the frustration of having newspaper extracts or cuttings with no
indication of paper or date. One of my aunts was a great newspaper
clipper but never indicated where it came from or when - really helpful
when they say things like - the business has been established 50 years.

Cathy

Barton Lewis wrote:
>
> I’d like advice on how to handle the following. A funeral director in
> Evansville, IN typed abstracts of thousands of obits over a 50 year
> period on index cards from local newspapers. Unfortunately, he did not
> specify the name of the paper or obit’s date on the card. Using the
> Source Writer, I created a master source “Browning Genealogy” for all
> these obits. In example 1 below, I entered the italicized text in the
> field “Title” on the source page, and the quoted text in the field
> “Article” on the Source Detail page, but I don’t think this is right.
> I prefer the second example, where I entered “Obituary abstracts from
> unspecified Evansville, IN newspapers” in the field “Collection” on
> the detail page. But I don’t know how to identify who this obit
> abstract is for. Does anyone have a suggestion as to where/how I could
> indicate that or another way of handling this problem? Thanks!
>
> "Obituary abstract of Orilla (FORD) RAMBO," /unspecified Evansville,
> IN newspaper/; digital images, /Browning Genealogy/
> (http://browning.evcpl.lib.in.us/ : accessed 14 Oct 2014).
>
> digital images, /Browning Genealogy/ (http://browning.evcpl.lib.in.us/
> : accessed 15 Oct 2014), Obituary abstracts from unspecified
> Evansville, IN newspapers.



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[LegacyUG] citing website w/obit abstracts

[Barton Lewis]

I'd like advice on how to handle the following.  A funeral director in
Evansville, IN typed abstracts of thousands of obits over a 50 year period
on index cards from local newspapers.  Unfortunately, he did not specify the
name of the paper or obit's date on the card.  Using the Source Writer, I
created a master source "Browning Genealogy" for all these obits.  In
example 1 below, I entered the italicized text in the field "Title" on the
source page, and the quoted text in the field "Article" on the Source Detail
page, but I don't think this is right.  I prefer the second example, where I
entered "Obituary abstracts from unspecified Evansville, IN newspapers" in
the field "Collection" on the detail page.  But I don't know how to identify
who this obit abstract is for.  Does anyone have a suggestion as to
where/how I could indicate that or another way of handling this problem?
Thanks!



"Obituary abstract of Orilla (FORD) RAMBO," unspecified Evansville, IN
newspaper; digital images, Browning Genealogy
(http://browning.evcpl.lib.in.us/ : accessed 14 Oct 2014).



digital images, Browning Genealogy (http://browning.evcpl.lib.in.us/ :
accessed 15 Oct 2014), Obituary abstracts from unspecified Evansville, IN
newspapers.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox

[Cathy Pinner]

Hi Lavern,
Your problem may be that you are not giving it enough time to sync. I
hope you have your XP computer well protected since you are using it online.
However, I'm not clear about your process.
Bob thinks you have your working file only in the Dropbox and that may
be so.
But you said: "I make entries on my laptop (win 8.1) by selecting
the icon on my desktop, entering Legacy, then making
updates. Then I save the file to Dropbox."
Since Legacy saves changes automatically, saving the file is not usually
a step unless you are saving it in some new place.

Where is your family file on your Win 8.1 computer? Is it in a Dropbox
folder or not?I read you as saying you saved a copy to the Dropbox - or
maybe the backup file.

If it's the backup file in Dropbox, on the other computer you have to
restore the backup.
If it's the actual file you either have to make sure you are opening the
copy that is in the Dropbox OR copy it to your Legacy Data folder on the
other computer.

Either way you have to make sure you are opening the copy of your file
that you want on the XP computer and not just one of the same name saved
in a different folder.

Cathy
> Bob Austen 
> Thursday, 16 October 2014 1:36 AM
>
> Hi Lavern,
>
> It sounds like your problem could be with Dropbox - that is, there is
> no issue with Legacy, Win XP, or Win8.1.
>
> I use Dropbox.  It can take some time for the files to "sync" from
> Dropbox to the laptop - depending on the size of your file,
> connections speed, it could be a few minutes to many minutes.  My
> computer setup is the reverse, my laptop is on XP and is very slow.
> My file can take well over 30 minutes to "sync".  So make sure the
> icon says that the folders are up to date.
>
> It the file has been updated and they still don't match, then check to
> see that you have only the one file on Dropbox and that the laptop is
> working with the same file.
>
> It sounds like you have your working file on Dropbox.  Remember that
> Dropbox is not a multiuser system.  If you have Legacy open on both
> computers they will each save their own copy of the file and they will
> not be in sync.  So, again, check your Dropbox folder, if there is
> only one file, make sure that it has been updated on the laptop before
> opening Legacy.  Have Legacy open on only one computer at a time.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Bob
>
> *From:*Lavern Hall [mailto:lavernh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:02 AM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox
>
> Hello all,
>
> I hope you will be able to help me with this problem.
>
> I have a new laptop with window 8.1 and I have my
>
> old computer operating on windows XP. I have
>
> the latest version  if Legacy 7.5 installed on both, but
>
> I cannot get them to sync. Here's what happens:
>
> I make entries on my laptop (win 8.1) by selecting
>
> the icon on my desktop, entering Legacy, then making
>
> updates. Then I save the file to Dropbox.
>
> When I go to check if the updates have been made
>
> on my computer (win XP), the Dropbox icon shows
>
> that everything is in sync; however when I enter the
>
> Legacy file itself, there are no updates recorded!
>
> It doesn't matter if I enter Legacy by clicking
>
> on the Dropbox icon and going to the file in the
>
> directory, or if I click on the Legacy icon and the
>
> program opens; I still receive an error message,
>
> "Error opening database. Would you like to
>
> Try It Again? I select "Yes"and then (fortunately)
>
> the program opens.
>
> What am I doing wrong? Is it possible that 8.1 and
>
> XP are not compatible?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Lavern Hall
>



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re: [LegacyUG] How do I Convert Reports To Word For Editing

[Jim Terry/Support]

Al,

See "Tips for editing RTF reports created by Legacy" at
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00550


 Original Message 
> From: "Alan Wakenhut" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:36 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] How do I Convert Reports To Word For Editing
>
> Is there a way to convert reports produced in Legacy 8 that can be
converted into Word for editing?
>
> Al



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RE: [LegacyUG] How do I Convert Reports To Word For Editing

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

Mike is correct. Your best bet is to allow Legacy to produce a RTF which Word 
can directly open. If you need to bring a PDF file into Word, it takes a little 
trick. Word will not directly open a PDF file (assuming that you haven't 
installed some sort of 3rd party add-in). To accomplish getting the PDF into 
Word, open a Word document and place the cursor wherever you want the PDF to 
begin; if it’s a blank, new document then just leave the cursor at the 
beginning. Now the trick: select INSERT and then choose OBJECT (in the TEXT 
Group menu in Word 2010), then select Adobe Acrobat Document.

But once you've finished editing the complete document in Word, there is no 
SAVE AS a PDF file (unless you've installed some sort of 3d part add-in). If 
you want to convert back to PDF, then you need either Adobe Acrobat or some 
other 3rd party PDF creator application.


Brian in CA


-Original Message-
From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:55 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How do I Convert Reports To Word For Editing

On 15 Oct 2014 18:19, Alan Wakenhut wrote:

> Is there a way to convert reports produced in Legacy 8 that can be
> converted  into Word for editing?

Word uses RTF format files. Legacy can produce RTF files. Legacy can also 
produce PDF files which, I believe can be read by Word and saved as something 
else.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry (Jhb)






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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox

[Bob Austen]

Hi Lavern,



It sounds like your problem could be with Dropbox - that is, there is no issue 
with Legacy, Win XP, or Win8.1.



I use Dropbox.  It can take some time for the files to "sync" from Dropbox to 
the laptop - depending on the size of your file, connections speed, it could be 
a few minutes to many minutes.  My computer setup is the reverse, my laptop is 
on XP and is very slow.  My file can take well over 30 minutes to "sync".  So 
make sure the icon says that the folders are up to date.



It the file has been updated and they still don't match, then check to see that 
you have only the one file on Dropbox and that the laptop is working with the 
same file.



It sounds like you have your working file on Dropbox.  Remember that Dropbox is 
not a multiuser system.  If you have Legacy open on both computers they will 
each save their own copy of the file and they will not be in sync.  So, again, 
check your Dropbox folder, if there is only one file, make sure that it has 
been updated on the laptop before opening Legacy.  Have Legacy open on only one 
computer at a time.



Hope this helps.



Bob











From: Lavern Hall [mailto:lavernh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:02 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox



Hello all,



I hope you will be able to help me with this problem.

I have a new laptop with window 8.1 and I have my

old computer operating on windows XP. I have

the latest version  if Legacy 7.5 installed on both, but

I cannot get them to sync. Here's what happens:



I make entries on my laptop (win 8.1) by selecting

the icon on my desktop, entering Legacy, then making

updates. Then I save the file to Dropbox.



When I go to check if the updates have been made

on my computer (win XP), the Dropbox icon shows

that everything is in sync; however when I enter the

Legacy file itself, there are no updates recorded!



It doesn't matter if I enter Legacy by clicking

on the Dropbox icon and going to the file in the

directory, or if I click on the Legacy icon and the

program opens; I still receive an error message,

"Error opening database. Would you like to

Try It Again? I select "Yes"and then (fortunately)

the program opens.



What am I doing wrong? Is it possible that 8.1 and

XP are not compatible?



Any help would be appreciated.

Lavern Hall








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Re: [LegacyUG] How do I Convert Reports To Word For Editing

[MikeFry]

On 15 Oct 2014 18:19, Alan Wakenhut wrote:

> Is there a way to convert reports produced in Legacy 8 that can be converted
>  into Word for editing?

Word uses RTF format files. Legacy can produce RTF files. Legacy can also
produce PDF files which, I believe can be read by Word and saved as something 
else.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry (Jhb)



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[LegacyUG] How do I Convert Reports To Word For Editing

[Alan Wakenhut]

Is there a way to convert reports produced in Legacy 8 that can be converted 
into Word for editing?

Al



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[LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox

[Lavern Hall]

Hello all,

I hope you will be able to help me with this problem.
I have a new laptop with window 8.1 and I have my
old computer operating on windows XP. I have
the latest version  if Legacy 7.5 installed on both, but
I cannot get them to sync. Here's what happens:

I make entries on my laptop (win 8.1) by selecting
the icon on my desktop, entering Legacy, then making
updates. Then I save the file to Dropbox.

When I go to check if the updates have been made
on my computer (win XP), the Dropbox icon shows
that everything is in sync; however when I enter the
Legacy file itself, there are no updates recorded!

It doesn't matter if I enter Legacy by clicking
on the Dropbox icon and going to the file in the
directory, or if I click on the Legacy icon and the
program opens; I still receive an error message,
"Error opening database. Would you like to
Try It Again? I select "Yes"and then (fortunately)
the program opens.

What am I doing wrong? Is it possible that 8.1 and
XP are not compatible?

Any help would be appreciated.
Lavern Hall



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Re: [LegacyUG] Ethnicity

[Tessa Keough]

Yes it is a nice start but very general - Newfoundland did not join
the confederation of Canada until 1949 however my ancestors get thrown
into Canada (Newfoundlanders through and through). And of course we
have the issue of the Austria-Hungary Empire - if your ancestors were
born in Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Yugoslavia - and that all depends
on the date, so that is problematic as well. As another poster stated,
the same issue arises with Germany and Italy through time. Of course
depending on what we include in our databases makes a difference but I
am clear about Newfoundland and it makes no difference. Will just have
to superimpose the Newfoundland flag!

That said, it is a great quick and dirty view and it does give people
an approximation and get the conversation started. My sister knew to
ask the questions and we played with the basic report. All good as
long as you think critically (always important).

Tessa

Tessa Keough
Guild of One-Name Studies, Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered ONS
Legacy Virtual Users' Group Community on Google+
Society for One-Place Studies - Plate Cove East, Newfoundland


On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:01 PM,   wrote:
>
>
> Knowing the country of origin or nationality is a step toward finding an
> ancestor’s culture or ethnicity, but even recording an accurate name of the
> nation may immediately say a little more about an ancestor.
>
SNIP



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Re: [LegacyUG] Book Report Title Page Overlaying

[Brian/Support]

Individual Reports do not have a title page in the Publication Centre.

The title page is defined on the Additional Tab of the Pub Centre. I
pasted your "Descendants of George Washington Lockey" into the title as
two lines as implied by your original message and there was no overprint
problem.

Brian
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On 15/10/2014 0744, Jess wrote:
> I left everything at default. It was Descendants of George Washington Lockey.
>
> Jessica Morgan
>
> On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Brian/Support  wrote:
>
> How did you define those multiple line titles on the Title Page Screen?
> Copy and paste your entry on the title page to show us how you entered
> the data.
>
> What did you use for the "So and so goes here" part of the title page.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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>
>> On 14/10/2014 2003, Jessica Morgan wrote:
>> Is there a known issue with the title page of any book reports in
>> publishing center overlaying the title?
>>
>> My title should read
>> Descendants of
>> So and so goes here
>>
>> instead, both lines are on same line, thus making it illegible.
>>
>> This happened with all the reports I tried to run with a title page, so I
>> had to edit it outside of Legacy before my reunion.
>>
>>
>> *Jessica Morgan*
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Book Report Title Page Overlaying

[Jess]

I left everything at default. It was Descendants of George Washington Lockey.

Jessica Morgan

On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Brian/Support  wrote:

How did you define those multiple line titles on the Title Page Screen?
Copy and paste your entry on the title page to show us how you entered
the data.

What did you use for the "So and so goes here" part of the title page.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

> On 14/10/2014 2003, Jessica Morgan wrote:
> Is there a known issue with the title page of any book reports in
> publishing center overlaying the title?
>
> My title should read
> Descendants of
> So and so goes here
>
> instead, both lines are on same line, thus making it illegible.
>
> This happened with all the reports I tried to run with a title page, so I
> had to edit it outside of Legacy before my reunion.
>
>
> *Jessica Morgan*



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Re: [LegacyUG] Book Report Title Page Overlaying

[Brian/Support]

How did you define those multiple line titles on the Title Page Screen?
Copy and paste your entry on the title page to show us how you entered
the data.

What did you use for the "So and so goes here" part of the title page.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 14/10/2014 2003, Jessica Morgan wrote:
> Is there a known issue with the title page of any book reports in
> publishing center overlaying the title?
>
> My title should read
> Descendants of
> So and so goes here
>
> instead, both lines are on same line, thus making it illegible.
>
> This happened with all the reports I tried to run with a title page, so I
> had to edit it outside of Legacy before my reunion.
>
>
> *Jessica Morgan*



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