[LegacyUG] Uncertain date entry

2015-08-08 Thread Helen McCall
I'm checking my Potential Problems report and so many are due to approx
dates.  Is there anyway to tell the programme to accept a decade, like
1960s?
Helen




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Re: [LegacyUG] Uncertain date entry

2015-08-08 Thread MikeFry
On 08/08/2015 11:14, Helen McCall wrote:
> I'm checking my Potential Problems report and so many are due to approx
> dates.  Is there anyway to tell the programme to accept a decade, like
> 1960s?

Try 'Abt 1960'

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[LegacyUG] Unknown partner names

2015-08-08 Thread Helen McCall
My tree has South American as well as European people in it.  So the
South American's have two surnames.  Sometimes the second or even first
surname of someone is not remembered, so only one surname can be entered
for children and possibly parents.  But the correct name should have
two.  Because it's a mixed tree this absence is not readily apparent if
no marker is used.  How can you show that one is missing, when Legacy
doesn't like you to enter a ? or something like that.   I assume this is
a problem others have already solved.
Thanks
Helen




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Re: [LegacyUG] Uncertain date entry

2015-08-08 Thread Helen McCall
Yeah, I find that too precise, when you're trying to indicate a whole
decade or two.

On 8/08/2015 7:20 PM, MikeFry wrote:
> On 08/08/2015 11:14, Helen McCall wrote:
>> I'm checking my Potential Problems report and so many are due to approx
>> dates.  Is there anyway to tell the programme to accept a decade, like
>> 1960s?
> Try 'Abt 1960'
>





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Re: [LegacyUG] Uncertain date entry

2015-08-08 Thread MikeFry
On 08/08/2015 11:41, Helen McCall wrote:

> Yeah, I find that too precise, when you're trying to indicate a whole
> decade or two.

How about 'Bet 1960-1970'?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Uncertain date entry

2015-08-08 Thread Helen McCall
Excellent, thanks, didn't know that would work.

On 8/08/2015 7:54 PM, MikeFry wrote:
> On 08/08/2015 11:41, Helen McCall wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I find that too precise, when you're trying to indicate a whole
>> decade or two.
> How about 'Bet 1960-1970'?
>





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Re: [LegacyUG] QUESTION

2015-08-08 Thread Ron Ferguson
Brian,

With certain exceptions I accept your point that USA Supreme Court decisions
are not applicable outside the USA, but to enable me to understand better
can you please say in what way the USA court and others (say, UK) are
different, or a website URL where this is explained?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 6:27 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] QUESTION

Apples vs oranges. The user I replied to was saying that the recent US
Supreme Court decision on same sex couples made the question of legal
marriages by jurisdiction moot. I was only pointing out that US Supreme
Court decisions are not applicable outside the USA so there are still
jurisdictions where same sex marriages may not yet be "legal".

I am sure many countries have a "supreme" court if not given that name
but they are not the same as the supreme court referred to in the thread.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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On 07/08/2015 11:38 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Just for you information, we have had a Supreme Court for England & Wales
> for some years now.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 1:02 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] QUESTION
>
> No, The Supreme court only applies in the United States not to other
> countries.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> On 06/08/2015 11:53 AM, Barry Huntsinger wrote:
>> Thanks. I guess the Supreme Court removed the jurisdiction question
>> right?  Tks- Barry
>>
>
>
>
>
>





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[LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page

2015-08-08 Thread Alan Pereira
Deluxe Edition 8.0.0.509
Default set to Starting View = Family View (1.1)

Since installing this update, the Tags that have been used against the
individuals that are first displayed do not show.

They subsequently appear correctly when I choose to edit either individual.

This did not happen on previous versions

Alan Pereira







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Re: [LegacyUG] QUESTION

2015-08-08 Thread Brian/Support
This is no longer a suitable topic since we have lost any possible link
to using Legacy so this is the last email I want to see on this List. If
you want to argue further do not use the list to do so.

To me it seems rather obvious that the powers of the "top" court in
different countries will not be the same. In Canada and the USA they are
defined by our written constitutions. I have no idea what powers the
British top court has, nor even how many there are (England, Scotland,
Wales may each have their own as far as I know) nor what they may be named.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 08/08/2015 6:07 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Brian,
>
> With certain exceptions I accept your point that USA Supreme Court decisions
> are not applicable outside the USA, but to enable me to understand better
> can you please say in what way the USA court and others (say, UK) are
> different, or a website URL where this is explained?
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian/Support
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 6:27 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] QUESTION
>
> Apples vs oranges. The user I replied to was saying that the recent US
> Supreme Court decision on same sex couples made the question of legal
> marriages by jurisdiction moot. I was only pointing out that US Supreme
> Court decisions are not applicable outside the USA so there are still
> jurisdictions where same sex marriages may not yet be "legal".
>
> I am sure many countries have a "supreme" court if not given that name
> but they are not the same as the supreme court referred to in the thread.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> On 07/08/2015 11:38 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> Just for you information, we have had a Supreme Court for England & Wales
>> for some years now.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 1:02 PM
>> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] QUESTION
>>
>> No, The Supreme court only applies in the United States not to other
>> countries.
>>
>> Brian
>> Customer Support
>> Millennia Corporation
>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>
>> On 06/08/2015 11:53 AM, Barry Huntsinger wrote:
>>> Thanks. I guess the Supreme Court removed the jurisdiction question
>>> right?  Tks- Barry
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page

2015-08-08 Thread Brian/Support
What are your settings in option 1.5 Tagging options? I suspect the
tagging may be turned off so tags do not show. They always appear on the
individual edit screen but will only appear in other screens with option
1.5 set to enable tagging.

Brian
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On 08/08/2015 5:53 AM, Alan Pereira wrote:
> Deluxe Edition 8.0.0.509
> Default set to Starting View = Family View (1.1)
>
> Since installing this update, the Tags that have been used against the
> individuals that are first displayed do not show.
>
> They subsequently appear correctly when I choose to edit either individual.
>
> This did not happen on previous versions
>
> Alan Pereira




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RE: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page

2015-08-08 Thread Alan Pereira
1.5 is set to enable tagging

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 08 August 2015 13:21
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page

What are your settings in option 1.5 Tagging options? I suspect the tagging may 
be turned off so tags do not show. They always appear on the individual edit 
screen but will only appear in other screens with option
1.5 set to enable tagging.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 08/08/2015 5:53 AM, Alan Pereira wrote:
> Deluxe Edition 8.0.0.509
> Default set to Starting View = Family View (1.1)
>
> Since installing this update, the Tags that have been used against the
> individuals that are first displayed do not show.
>
> They subsequently appear correctly when I choose to edit either individual.
>
> This did not happen on previous versions
>
> Alan Pereira











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RE: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page

2015-08-08 Thread Adrian Purkiss
With version 209 the tags work and display as expected at least here. With 
tagging options checked tags show in family view.

Your installation may be corrupted.

Adrian

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Re: [LegacyUG] Uncertain date entry

2015-08-08 Thread Jenny M Benson

  
  
On 8/8/2015 10:14 AM, Helen McCall
  wrote:


  I'm checking my Potential Problems report and so many are due to approx
dates.  Is there anyway to tell the programme to accept a decade, like
1960s?

What you might want to
enter rather depends on exactly what you mean.  You could put "1960-1969", but
  to me that implies an ongoing process
taking place during all that time.   You could put "abt 1965"
but you might feel that implies
  1964-1966 rather than a wider time period.  You could
  put "after 1959" or "before
1970" but that might suggest a wider time period
option.

The simple way is just to tell
  Legacy to ignore that particular problem by right-clicking the
problem icon and selecting "Check for valid
dates" on the Problems tab.
  
--
Jenny M Benson
  



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RE: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page

2015-08-08 Thread Alan Pereira
Did you mean Version 509.  If so, do you open Legacy with Family View and does 
any tagging show up on the first screen before you edit anything?



Alan



From: Adrian Purkiss [mailto:a...@wavp.co.uk]
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page



With version 209 the tags work and display as expected at least here. With 
tagging options checked tags show in family view.

Your installation may be corrupted.

Adrian

Sent from my android device.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page

2015-08-08 Thread Adrian Purkiss
Yes typo. 509.

However I now see what you mean. The containers appear on family view but no 
contents. Thus I can confirm the problem. Whether it exidted previously I 
cannot confirm.

It appears it is nothing to do with settings as the boxes appear, but rather to 
some internal data display refresh procedure on opening. Should be flagged to 
Legacy using bug reporting procedures. As a programmer think it just needs one 
additional lone in the code which dhould be easy to make in next version.

Regards

Adrian

Sent from my android device.

-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 2:49 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page

Did you mean Version 509.  If so, do you open Legacy with Family View and does 
any tagging show up on the first screen before you edit anything?



Alan



From: Adrian Purkiss [mailto:a...@wavp.co.uk]
Sent: 08 August 2015 14:19
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: remotes...@wavp.co.uk
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page



With version 209 the tags work and display as expected at least here. With 
tagging options checked tags show in family view.

Your installation may be corrupted.

Adrian

Sent from my android device.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page

2015-08-08 Thread Adrian Purkiss
I would add not a legacy programmer just a good old visual basic programmer.

Adrian

Sent from my android device.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Purkiss 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: remotes...@wavp.co.uk
Sent: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page

Yes typo. 509.

However I now see what you mean. The containers appear on family view but no 
contents. Thus I can confirm the problem. Whether it exidted previously I 
cannot confirm.

It appears it is nothing to do with settings as the boxes appear, but rather to 
some internal data display refresh procedure on opening. Should be flagged to 
Legacy using bug reporting procedures. As a programmer think it just needs one 
additional lone in the code which dhould be easy to make in next version.

Regards

Adrian

Sent from my android device.

-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 2:49 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page

Did you mean Version 509.  If so, do you open Legacy with Family View and does 
any tagging show up on the first screen before you edit anything?



Alan



From: Adrian Purkiss [mailto:a...@wavp.co.uk]
Sent: 08 August 2015 14:19
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: remotes...@wavp.co.uk
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page



With version 209 the tags work and display as expected at least here. With 
tagging options checked tags show in family view.

Your installation may be corrupted.

Adrian

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tag Numbers not shown on Opening Family Page

2015-08-08 Thread Brian/Support
With the clarification provided by other messages in this thread the
problem is confirmed. It is the tag contents which are not shown in
Family View when the program first starts. Any change to redraw the view
fills in the tag contents.

Problem report raised to have this fixed.

Brian
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On 08/08/2015 5:53 AM, Alan Pereira wrote:
> Deluxe Edition 8.0.0.509
> Default set to Starting View = Family View (1.1)
>
> Since installing this update, the Tags that have been used against the
> individuals that are first displayed do not show.
>
> They subsequently appear correctly when I choose to edit either individual.
>
> This did not happen on previous versions
>
> Alan Pereira




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Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown partner names

2015-08-08 Thread Eliz Hanebury
legacy doesn't mind if you use brackets, so you could put in () or []
with not known or something similar.
Eliz
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On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 5:27 AM, Helen McCall  wrote:
> My tree has South American as well as European people in it.  So the
> South American's have two surnames.  Sometimes the second or even first
> surname of someone is not remembered, so only one surname can be entered
> for children and possibly parents.  But the correct name should have
> two.  Because it's a mixed tree this absence is not readily apparent if
> no marker is used.  How can you show that one is missing, when Legacy
> doesn't like you to enter a ? or something like that.   I assume this is
> a problem others have already solved.
> Thanks
> Helen
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Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown partner names

2015-08-08 Thread Wendy Howard
Would privacy brackets help you here?  That is, put square brackets
[[around anything 'private']] like this. You can see them on the screen
when you're in Legacy, but you can choose to not include that data in
reports.  You could use them to mark the missing portion of the surname,
so you can see at a glance that it's missing, but you do not have to
include it in reports if you want to withhold it.

I often use privacy brackets when I know a person exists, but don't know
their name, and once I find out their name enter it as an AKA, and then
switch the AKA with the main name, to preserve the path of research (I
like to use citation dates, so you can see which data was entered when).

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Helen McCall wrote on 8/08/2015 21:27:
> My tree has South American as well as European people in it.  So the
> South American's have two surnames.  Sometimes the second or even first
> surname of someone is not remembered, so only one surname can be entered
> for children and possibly parents.  But the correct name should have
> two.  Because it's a mixed tree this absence is not readily apparent if
> no marker is used.  How can you show that one is missing, when Legacy
> doesn't like you to enter a ? or something like that.   I assume this is
> a problem others have already solved.
> Thanks
> Helen





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Re: [LegacyUG] Uncertain date entry

2015-08-08 Thread Helen McCall

  
  
Thanks.  There were too many to go through checking that box on
everything.  I've decided to use between .. and ..   and know that
it means the decade, approx.  
I think it's something that needs to be considered, as often we can
only remember about what decade something happened.  
I also would like to be able to put early or late 60s, for
instance.  Better than something even more vague.  But with that
I'll have to tell it to ignore the warning.  Seems you have to
repeat "verify date validity" or some such for each child, as
well.   Which means other dates will not be checked, presumably.
Similarly Qtr ended - government searches give you that - doesn't
seem any way to handle that, other than tell nit to ignore.

On 8/08/2015 11:36 PM, Jenny M Benson
  wrote:


  
  On 8/8/2015 10:14 AM, Helen McCall
wrote:
  
  
I'm checking my Potential Problems report and so many are due to approx
dates.  Is there anyway to tell the programme to accept a decade, like
1960s?
  
  What you might want to
  enter rather depends on exactly what you mean.  You could put "1960-1969",
but to me that implies an ongoing process taking place during all that time.   You
  could put "abt
  1965" but you might feel that
implies 1964-1966 rather than a wider time period. 
You could put "after 1959" or
  "before 1970" but that might suggest a wider time
  period option.
  
  The simple way is just to
tell Legacy to ignore
  that particular problem by right-clicking the
  problem icon and selecting "Check for
  valid dates" on the Problems tab.

  --
Jenny M Benson
  
  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown partner names

2015-08-08 Thread Helen McCall
Now that sounds nice and sneaky.  I'll give it a go.  Thanks
Helen

On 9/08/2015 8:23 AM, Wendy Howard wrote:
> Would privacy brackets help you here?  That is, put square brackets
> [[around anything 'private']] like this. You can see them on the screen
> when you're in Legacy, but you can choose to not include that data in
> reports.  You could use them to mark the missing portion of the surname,
> so you can see at a glance that it's missing, but you do not have to
> include it in reports if you want to withhold it.
>
> I often use privacy brackets when I know a person exists, but don't know
> their name, and once I find out their name enter it as an AKA, and then
> switch the AKA with the main name, to preserve the path of research (I
> like to use citation dates, so you can see which data was entered when).
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Wendy
>
> Helen McCall wrote on 8/08/2015 21:27:
>> My tree has South American as well as European people in it.  So the
>> South American's have two surnames.  Sometimes the second or even first
>> surname of someone is not remembered, so only one surname can be entered
>> for children and possibly parents.  But the correct name should have
>> two.  Because it's a mixed tree this absence is not readily apparent if
>> no marker is used.  How can you show that one is missing, when Legacy
>> doesn't like you to enter a ? or something like that.   I assume this is
>> a problem others have already solved.
>> Thanks
>> Helen
>
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