[LegacyUG] Proof Arguments - How to Write Them and Why They Matter - free webinar by Warren Bittner now online for limited time

2016-03-30 Thread Geoff Rasmussen 
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Re: [LegacyUG] unsubscribe

2016-03-30 Thread Patrick Carty 
Please unsubscribe me also.  Your published procedure does not work.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 6:51 AM, dherburg  wrote:

>  same here. I started receiving lots of emails and  I've tried
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Re: [LegacyUG] unsubscribe

2016-03-30 Thread John-Erik Sandaker 
Same here. I started receiving lots of emails and  I've tried unsubscribing but 
it hasn't worked. Please unsubscribe me too

 

 

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 same here. I started receiving lots of emails and  I've tried unsubscribing 
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>From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.



 Original message 
From: Heather van Vonderen 
Date:03/29/2016 4:38 AM (GMT-07:00) 
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] unsubscribe 

Help. I would like to unsubscribe from this list (too many emails) but can't 
seem to do so.  Following instructions I do click the unsubscribe button but do 
not received the email (that I'm supposed to receive) containing instructions 
how to do so.




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[LegacyUG] Preparing a book

2016-03-30 Thread Hannigan Family Research 
If this is not the appropriate venue for this discussion, please let me 
know.


There has been some discussion here and on the FB page about preparing a 
book of your family history.  Ultimately, my father's desire is to 
publish our family history for our personal family usage, as well as 
putting a volume in the Allen County (IN) Public Library Genealogy 
section.  We don't imagine that anyone would be willing to purchase the 
story of our ancestors.


There have been several different ideas put forth on how to publish the 
material. There is not right way or wrong way here, I just want to get 
some opinions on why people would choose a particular method.


First, someone suggested that you would break the book to family groups 
and have a section covering each family group.  In other words, my 
great-great grandfather who came to New York and his family would be one 
section and then work through the generations.


Next, another person has suggested breaking it into parts to cover the 
families of the male children, again arranging by family group.  Here 
again, my great-great grandfather who came to New York and his family 
would be a section and then his two sons who married would be additional 
sections.  This would leave out any female children who married.


Still another person suggested the same basic idea of covering the male 
children, except the females who married would be covered in separate 
chapters with their husband's surname.


And there may be other methods of arranging the family listings/sections.

To what level do you write about? only non-living individuals or do you 
include individuals who are living? If you include living individuals, 
how much information do you include? especially if you are looking to 
'hard copy' bind the book.


Do you include images with the text to include census forms and other 
documents or do you include them in a special section at the end of the 
book?


Thank you for help in my research.

John Hannigan
Jacksonville Florida


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Re: [LegacyUG] unsubscribe

2016-03-30 Thread dherburg 
 same here. I started receiving lots of emails and  I've tried unsubscribing 
but it hasn't worked. Please unsubscribe me also


From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

 Original message 
From: Heather van Vonderen  
Date:03/29/2016  4:38 AM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: Legacy User Group  
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] unsubscribe 

Help. I would like to unsubscribe from this list (too many emails) but can't 
seem to do so.  Following instructions I do click the unsubscribe button but do 
not received the email (that I'm supposed to receive) containing instructions 
how to do so.




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Subject: [LegacyUG] unsubscribe

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Re: [LegacyUG] attachments

2016-03-30 Thread MikeFry 

On 29 Mar 2016 11:22 PM, Brian/Support wrote:


The mailing list does not belong to the same domain as the sender and DMARC
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list's domain "legacyusers.com" since the two do not match. That is why the list
has to create a message from the list using the list's domain and include the
sender's message as an attachment.


This sounds wrong to me. It has to be the subscriber's mail server that is doing 
the repackaging. In this case it's Yahoo.com that is playing by its own rules.


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Re: [LegacyUG] attachments

2016-03-30 Thread Charlene C 
Seems as though it must be a setting in Mailman. I'm on about six other
mailing lists that use Mailman and this is the only one that's showing
posts as attachments.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Brian/Support 
wrote:

> The format of the email will not "fix" the DMARC rules requirement to
> include emails as attachments.
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> The mailing list does not belong to the same domain as the sender and
> DMARC validation rules prevent the list from sending a message from the
> sender via the list's domain "legacyusers.com" since the two do not
> match. That is why the list has to create a message from the list using the
> list's domain and include the sender's message as an attachment.
>
> Brian
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>
> On 28/03/2016 13:01, Hannigan Family Research wrote:
>
>> Jan - this is because of the 'Spoofing' of email addresses that present
>> SPAM to the list. Brian indicated it is cause by free email address
>> providers who are known for SPAM.
>>
>> DMARC, which stands for “Domain-based Message Authentication,
>> Reporting & Conformance”, is anemail authentication
>> protocol.
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>>
>> This message was added to your email (and others) to explain why the
>> sent email was made an attachment instead of providing straight text.
>>
>> The original message to the list is in the attachment.
>>
>> This action is required because of the DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy
>> imposed by some email providers. Users who want to send messages
>> without conversion to attachments should use a different email address
>> for their subscription.
>>
>> Known providers for free email accounts whose emails do not require
>> this conversion include gmail.com and hotmail.com.  Many other email
>> providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.
>>
>> I think this could be resolved by converting all emails received to the
>> list to 'plain text' and not permitting attachments to be included.
>> This would be in the settings of the ListServe and not something that
>> could be managed by subscribers.
>>
>> This is the only list (and I am subscribed to many) that I have this
>> problem with.  And since I am often cautious (like many other people on
>> this list) about opening attachments, I often miss comments from
>> subscribers.
>>
>> BTW - I just checked why I was not receiving many email (maybe 1 or 2 a
>> day or every couple of days) and found a bunch of email with this DMARC
>> attachment quarantined by my host service.  If I had not checked the
>> webmail, I never would have known the number of discussions I missed.
>>
>> John Hannigan
>> Jacksonville Florida
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday 3 28 2016 12:22 PM, Jan Rogge wrote:
>>
>>> Why do all my emails from this group show the icon for an attachment?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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