Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

2017-07-26 Thread Cathy Pinner

Dennis,

If you cite it for every piece of information (as you should and you'll 
be glad you did later when you find other sources for it), if you don't 
change it every time (by making the source detail specific to the actual 
fact) then in a Descendant Book it will be referenced many times and 
only listed once UNLESS you are using footnotes and/or combining 
citations in one paragraph.
For this reason I usually find my citations list shorter (by pages) when 
I don't combine into one paragraph.


For it to be listed once the whole source has to be identical down to 
the last space or period.


Cathy


Dennis Birke 
Thursday, 27 July 2017 5:27 AM

Thanks to everyone who responded.  I’ll try some of the suggested 
options tonight.


*From:* LegacyUserGroup 
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Chapman

*Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:03 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.

You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.

1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master 
source & clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - 
create the master source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each 
person’s data and 1 click on triple bar on left side of data entry 
screen assigns the clipboard source to all the fields for that person. 
 So, basically, it is 1 more click on data entry to assign the source 
to that persons data.


2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and 
then create 1 master source


  A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.

  B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will 
need one common person in both databases to aid with the 
import/merging of people.


3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing

   A.  Create 1 master source for these people

   B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave 
you the information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)


   C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to 
everyone with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.


Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more 
knowledge of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have 
less that about 15-20 people, I would use option 1.  When you more 
than 20 people, then option 2 or 3 will be much easier to accomplish 
the sourcing of everyone’s information.


Good luck.


Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com 

Leon Chapman 
Thursday, 27 July 2017 12:02 AM
You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.

You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.
1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master 
source & clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - 
create the master source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each 
person’s data and 1 click on triple bar on left side of data entry 
screen assigns the clipboard source to all the fields for that person. 
 So, basically, it is 1 more click on data entry to assign the source 
to that persons data.


2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and 
then create 1 master source

  A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.
  B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will 
need one common person in both databases to aid with the 
import/merging of people.


3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing
   A.  Create 1 master source for these people
   B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave 
you the information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)
   C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to 
everyone with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.



Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more 
knowledge of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have 
less that about 15-20 people, I would use option 1.  When you more 
than 20 people, then option 2 or 3 will be much easier to accomplish 
the sourcing of everyone’s information.


Good luck.

Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com 




Dennis Birke 
Wednesday, 26 July 2017 10:36 PM

I’ve been using Legacy for several years, but I’m only beginning to 
cite sources.  So, I’m still trying to figure out the best way to 
handle citations.  Here is the situation I’m currently grappling with:


Until recently, my family database did not include information about 
the descendants of one of my great-grandfather’s sisters.  I recently 
connected with the daughter of the sister and she has provided me with 
fairly complete information about all of the sister’s descendants – 
about 40 people when you include spouses.  (You can imagine my delight 
in getting this treasure trove of information in one fell swoop!)


Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

2017-07-26 Thread Ian Macaulay
Thank you for the guidance on Web pages,  I was hoping that the situation
had changed and it might be a one shot show.

Ian

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Ward Walker  wrote:

> Since creating or updating a web site can be something done infrequently,
> I suggest creating a cheat sheet of all the detailed steps from start to
> finish. It can be a simple text file. When you go back a few months or
> years later, you have it all spelled out for you.
>
> I prefer the presentation of TNG over the Legacy-created web pages, but
> there certainly were a few tricky bits to get everything set up well. My
> cheat sheet is 2 1/2 pages long, with sections for the TNG file structure,
> the Legacy export, media, the TNG import, the TNG template, and TNG
> backups. Also, the instructions provided in the TNG readme.html file are
> crucial for initial setup.
>
>  Ward
>  (in Ottawa)
>
> -Original Message- From: Joyce Herzog
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:50 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation
>
> Ian, if you have a website to upload to, you can create your web pages
> in Legacy. I have a TNG site thru the Guild of One-name Studies, but i
> plan to create web pages in Legacy and upload it to my website, (If I
> can remember where it is!) The TNG site is for my one-name study. I
> have a rather large collection of dead relatives for my own use.
> Try the Legacy help section. It has a very good explanation .
>
> Joyce
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Landry 
> wrote:
>
>> I use gedcom from legacy then I use the import feature in TNG
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2017 8:17 PM, "Ian Macaulay"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with
>>> Legacy?
>>>
>>> I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too
>>> slow
>>> to remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a
>>> restricted web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next
>>> update is
>>> created.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

2017-07-26 Thread Henry T. Peterson Jr.
Jane

TNG… The Next Generation of Site Building (for genealogy)

 

  http://www.tngsitebuilding.com

 

Regards

Henry

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Jane Sarles
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:51 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

 

So..can someone enlighten me as to what TNG is?  I googled it and got 
mostly Star Trek stuff - nothing relating to genealogy web pages.

 

Jane

 

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Ward Walker mailto:wnkwal...@rogers.com> > wrote:

Since creating or updating a web site can be something done infrequently, I 
suggest creating a cheat sheet of all the detailed steps from start to finish. 
It can be a simple text file. When you go back a few months or years later, you 
have it all spelled out for you.

I prefer the presentation of TNG over the Legacy-created web pages, but there 
certainly were a few tricky bits to get everything set up well. My cheat sheet 
is 2 1/2 pages long, with sections for the TNG file structure, the Legacy 
export, media, the TNG import, the TNG template, and TNG backups. Also, the 
instructions provided in the TNG readme.html file are crucial for initial setup.

 Ward
 (in Ottawa)

-Original Message- From: Joyce Herzog
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:50 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

Ian, if you have a website to upload to, you can create your web pages
in Legacy. I have a TNG site thru the Guild of One-name Studies, but i
plan to create web pages in Legacy and upload it to my website, (If I
can remember where it is!) The TNG site is for my one-name study. I
have a rather large collection of dead relatives for my own use.
Try the Legacy help section. It has a very good explanation .

Joyce

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Landry mailto:dlandry...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I use gedcom from legacy then I use the import feature in TNG

On Jul 25, 2017 8:17 PM, "Ian Macaulay" mailto:macau...@icmac.ca> > wrote:


Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with
Legacy?

I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too slow
to remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a
restricted web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next update is
created.

Ian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

2017-07-26 Thread Margaret Turner
http://lythgoes.net/genealogy/software.php

http://turnermob.com
Front page of another
http://www.groganmob.com/index.php

I have Legacy as my desktop program to generate gedcom to upload to my web
site
Can have little to lots of customisation on the website


On 27 July 2017 at 07:51, Jane Sarles  wrote:

> So..can someone enlighten me as to what TNG is?  I googled it and got
> mostly Star Trek stuff - nothing relating to genealogy web pages.
>
> Jane
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Ward Walker  wrote:
>
>> Since creating or updating a web site can be something done infrequently,
>> I suggest creating a cheat sheet of all the detailed steps from start to
>> finish. It can be a simple text file. When you go back a few months or
>> years later, you have it all spelled out for you.
>>
>> I prefer the presentation of TNG over the Legacy-created web pages, but
>> there certainly were a few tricky bits to get everything set up well. My
>> cheat sheet is 2 1/2 pages long, with sections for the TNG file structure,
>> the Legacy export, media, the TNG import, the TNG template, and TNG
>> backups. Also, the instructions provided in the TNG readme.html file are
>> crucial for initial setup.
>>
>>  Ward
>>  (in Ottawa)
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Joyce Herzog
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:50 PM
>> To: Legacy User Group
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation
>>
>> Ian, if you have a website to upload to, you can create your web pages
>> in Legacy. I have a TNG site thru the Guild of One-name Studies, but i
>> plan to create web pages in Legacy and upload it to my website, (If I
>> can remember where it is!) The TNG site is for my one-name study. I
>> have a rather large collection of dead relatives for my own use.
>> Try the Legacy help section. It has a very good explanation .
>>
>> Joyce
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Landry 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I use gedcom from legacy then I use the import feature in TNG
>>>
>>> On Jul 25, 2017 8:17 PM, "Ian Macaulay"  wrote:
>>>

 Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with
 Legacy?

 I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too
 slow
 to remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a
 restricted web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next
 update is
 created.

 Ian

>>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

2017-07-26 Thread Gordon Findlay
Just google "TNG Software genealogy"

Slàinte
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On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Jane Sarles  wrote:

> So..can someone enlighten me as to what TNG is?  I googled it and got
> mostly Star Trek stuff - nothing relating to genealogy web pages.
>
> Jane
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Ward Walker  wrote:
>
>> Since creating or updating a web site can be something done infrequently,
>> I suggest creating a cheat sheet of all the detailed steps from start to
>> finish. It can be a simple text file. When you go back a few months or
>> years later, you have it all spelled out for you.
>>
>> I prefer the presentation of TNG over the Legacy-created web pages, but
>> there certainly were a few tricky bits to get everything set up well. My
>> cheat sheet is 2 1/2 pages long, with sections for the TNG file structure,
>> the Legacy export, media, the TNG import, the TNG template, and TNG
>> backups. Also, the instructions provided in the TNG readme.html file are
>> crucial for initial setup.
>>
>>  Ward
>>  (in Ottawa)
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Joyce Herzog
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:50 PM
>> To: Legacy User Group
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation
>>
>> Ian, if you have a website to upload to, you can create your web pages
>> in Legacy. I have a TNG site thru the Guild of One-name Studies, but i
>> plan to create web pages in Legacy and upload it to my website, (If I
>> can remember where it is!) The TNG site is for my one-name study. I
>> have a rather large collection of dead relatives for my own use.
>> Try the Legacy help section. It has a very good explanation .
>>
>> Joyce
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Landry 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I use gedcom from legacy then I use the import feature in TNG
>>>
>>> On Jul 25, 2017 8:17 PM, "Ian Macaulay"  wrote:
>>>

 Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with
 Legacy?

 I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too
 slow
 to remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a
 restricted web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next
 update is
 created.

 Ian

>>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

2017-07-26 Thread Jane Sarles
So..can someone enlighten me as to what TNG is?  I googled it and got
mostly Star Trek stuff - nothing relating to genealogy web pages.

Jane

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Ward Walker  wrote:

> Since creating or updating a web site can be something done infrequently,
> I suggest creating a cheat sheet of all the detailed steps from start to
> finish. It can be a simple text file. When you go back a few months or
> years later, you have it all spelled out for you.
>
> I prefer the presentation of TNG over the Legacy-created web pages, but
> there certainly were a few tricky bits to get everything set up well. My
> cheat sheet is 2 1/2 pages long, with sections for the TNG file structure,
> the Legacy export, media, the TNG import, the TNG template, and TNG
> backups. Also, the instructions provided in the TNG readme.html file are
> crucial for initial setup.
>
>  Ward
>  (in Ottawa)
>
> -Original Message- From: Joyce Herzog
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:50 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation
>
> Ian, if you have a website to upload to, you can create your web pages
> in Legacy. I have a TNG site thru the Guild of One-name Studies, but i
> plan to create web pages in Legacy and upload it to my website, (If I
> can remember where it is!) The TNG site is for my one-name study. I
> have a rather large collection of dead relatives for my own use.
> Try the Legacy help section. It has a very good explanation .
>
> Joyce
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Landry 
> wrote:
>
>> I use gedcom from legacy then I use the import feature in TNG
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2017 8:17 PM, "Ian Macaulay"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with
>>> Legacy?
>>>
>>> I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too
>>> slow
>>> to remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a
>>> restricted web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next
>>> update is
>>> created.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

2017-07-26 Thread Dennis Birke
Thanks to everyone who responded.  I’ll try some of the suggested options 
tonight.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leon Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:03 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

 

You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.

 

You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.

1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master source & 
clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - create the master 
source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each person’s data and 1 click on 
triple bar on left side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to 
all the fields for that person.  So, basically, it is 1 more click on data 
entry to assign the source to that persons data.

 

2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and then create 
1 master source

  A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.   

  B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will need one 
common person in both databases to aid with the import/merging of people.

 

3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing

   A.  Create 1 master source for these people

   B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave you the 
information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)

   C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to everyone 
with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.

 

 

Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more knowledge 
of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have less that about 15-20 
people, I would use option 1.  When you more than 20 people, then option 2 or 3 
will be much easier to accomplish the sourcing of everyone’s information.

 

Good luck.


Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com  



 

On Jul 26, 2017, at 7:36 AM, Dennis Birke mailto:dpbi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I’ve been using Legacy for several years, but I’m only beginning to cite 
sources.  So, I’m still trying to figure out the best way to handle citations.  
Here is the situation I’m currently grappling with:

 

Until recently, my family database did not include information about the 
descendants of one of my great-grandfather’s sisters.  I recently connected 
with the daughter of the sister and she has provided me with fairly complete 
information about all of the sister’s descendants – about 40 people when you 
include spouses.  (You can imagine my delight in getting this treasure trove of 
information in one fell swoop!)

 

Since this information was fairly hard to come by, I’d like to cite the source 
(i.e., personal correspondence from the daughter).  But, it feels like 
“overkill” to generate a citation to this source for each of four or five 
fields of data for each of about 40 people.  That’s a lot of repetitive work 
(even when using the clipboard) and that will generate a lot of duplicate 
footnotes in a descendants report (which is the type of report I most 
frequently generate).  So, I have been considering preparing one citation 
(probably connected with the sister) saying something like:  “Unless otherwise 
noted, all cited information regarding [Sister X} and her descendants was 
obtained from [Name of daughter] by letter dated .”  

 

The problem I see with this approach is that for certain kinds of reports, the 
single citation tied to the sister may not be included in the report and there 
will be nothing cited for a the many descendants.  

 

How would those of you familiar with citation practices handle this situation?

 

Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

2017-07-26 Thread Ward Walker
Since creating or updating a web site can be something done infrequently, I 
suggest creating a cheat sheet of all the detailed steps from start to 
finish. It can be a simple text file. When you go back a few months or years 
later, you have it all spelled out for you.


I prefer the presentation of TNG over the Legacy-created web pages, but 
there certainly were a few tricky bits to get everything set up well. My 
cheat sheet is 2 1/2 pages long, with sections for the TNG file structure, 
the Legacy export, media, the TNG import, the TNG template, and TNG backups. 
Also, the instructions provided in the TNG readme.html file are crucial for 
initial setup.


 Ward
 (in Ottawa)

-Original Message- 
From: Joyce Herzog

Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:50 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

Ian, if you have a website to upload to, you can create your web pages
in Legacy. I have a TNG site thru the Guild of One-name Studies, but i
plan to create web pages in Legacy and upload it to my website, (If I
can remember where it is!) The TNG site is for my one-name study. I
have a rather large collection of dead relatives for my own use.
Try the Legacy help section. It has a very good explanation .

Joyce

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Landry  
wrote:

I use gedcom from legacy then I use the import feature in TNG

On Jul 25, 2017 8:17 PM, "Ian Macaulay"  wrote:


Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with
Legacy?

I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too 
slow

to remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a
restricted web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next update 
is

created.

Ian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

2017-07-26 Thread Joyce Herzog
Ian, if you have a website to upload to, you can create your web pages
in Legacy. I have a TNG site thru the Guild of One-name Studies, but i
plan to create web pages in Legacy and upload it to my website, (If I
can remember where it is!) The TNG site is for my one-name study. I
have a rather large collection of dead relatives for my own use.
Try the Legacy help section. It has a very good explanation .

Joyce

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Landry  wrote:
> I use gedcom from legacy then I use the import feature in TNG
>
> On Jul 25, 2017 8:17 PM, "Ian Macaulay"  wrote:
>>
>> Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with
>> Legacy?
>>
>> I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too slow
>> to remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a
>> restricted web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next update is
>> created.
>>
>> Ian
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

2017-07-26 Thread Daniel Landry
I use gedcom from legacy then I use the import feature in TNG

On Jul 25, 2017 8:17 PM, "Ian Macaulay"  wrote:

> Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with
> Legacy?
>
> I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too slow
> to remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a
> restricted web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next update
> is created.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

2017-07-26 Thread Leon Chapman
You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.

You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.
1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master source & 
clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - create the master 
source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each person’s data and 1 click on 
triple bar on left side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to 
all the fields for that person.  So, basically, it is 1 more click on data 
entry to assign the source to that persons data.

2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and then create 
1 master source
  A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.   
  B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will need one 
common person in both databases to aid with the import/merging of people.

3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing
   A.  Create 1 master source for these people
   B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave you the 
information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)
   C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to everyone 
with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.


Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more knowledge 
of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have less that about 15-20 
people, I would use option 1.  When you more than 20 people, then option 2 or 3 
will be much easier to accomplish the sourcing of everyone’s information.

Good luck.

Leon Chapman
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> On Jul 26, 2017, at 7:36 AM, Dennis Birke  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been using Legacy for several years, but I’m only beginning to cite 
> sources.  So, I’m still trying to figure out the best way to handle 
> citations.  Here is the situation I’m currently grappling with:
>  
> Until recently, my family database did not include information about the 
> descendants of one of my great-grandfather’s sisters.  I recently connected 
> with the daughter of the sister and she has provided me with fairly complete 
> information about all of the sister’s descendants – about 40 people when you 
> include spouses.  (You can imagine my delight in getting this treasure trove 
> of information in one fell swoop!)
>  
> Since this information was fairly hard to come by, I’d like to cite the 
> source (i.e., personal correspondence from the daughter).  But, it feels like 
> “overkill” to generate a citation to this source for each of four or five 
> fields of data for each of about 40 people.  That’s a lot of repetitive work 
> (even when using the clipboard) and that will generate a lot of duplicate 
> footnotes in a descendants report (which is the type of report I most 
> frequently generate).  So, I have been considering preparing one citation 
> (probably connected with the sister) saying something like:  “Unless 
> otherwise noted, all cited information regarding [Sister X} and her 
> descendants was obtained from [Name of daughter] by letter dated .”  
>  
> The problem I see with this approach is that for certain kinds of reports, 
> the single citation tied to the sister may not be included in the report and 
> there will be nothing cited for a the many descendants.  
>  
> How would those of you familiar with citation practices handle this situation?
>  
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

2017-07-26 Thread E. J. Childress via LegacyUserGroup
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For what it's worth:  I always cite every entry.  I've learned over the years 
that I prefer it that way.  However, when printing off information for family 
or those interested only in the tree and information, I do NOT include the 
sources unless they specifically as for it (I ask them individually before I 
print).  Most casual people aren't interested in the sources.  If I'm sharing 
with another researcher, etc.  I then include my sources and they are willing 
to check the info.  

BTW there is a button on the print button were you can include all info 
connected to a single entry in one paragraph.  This is on the page were info 
(footnotes) is printed NOT on the end notes.


  From: Dennis Birke 
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:37 AM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source
   
I’ve been 
using Legacy for several years, but I’m only beginning to cite sources.  So, 
I’m still trying to figure out the best way to handle citations.  Here is the 
situation I’m currently grappling with:  Until recently, my family database did 
not include information about the descendants of one of my great-grandfather’s 
sisters.  I recently connected with the daughter of the sister and she has 
provided me with fairly complete information about all of the sister’s 
descendants – about 40 people when you include spouses.  (You can imagine my 
delight in getting this treasure trove of information in one fell swoop!)  
Since this information was fairly hard to come by, I’d like to cite the source 
(i.e., personal correspondence from the daughter).  But, it feels like 
“overkill” to generate a citation to this source for each of four or five 
fields of data for each of about 40 people.  That’s a lot of repetitive work 
(even when using the clipboard) and that will generate a lot of duplicate 
footnotes in a descendants report (which is the type of report I most 
frequently generate).  So, I have been considering preparing one citation 
(probably connected with the sister) saying something like:  “Unless otherwise 
noted, all cited information regarding [Sister X} and her descendants was 
obtained from [Name of daughter] by letter dated .”    The problem I see 
with this approach is that for certain kinds of reports, the single citation 
tied to the sister may not be included in the report and there will be nothing 
cited for a the many descendants.    How would those of you familiar with 
citation practices handle this situation?  Thanks for any assistance you can 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

2017-07-26 Thread Kevin Ferguson
Ian


Try FileZilla for uploading webpages. It is drag and drop and easy to 
setup...and free.


https://filezilla-project.org/


FileZilla - The free FTP solution
filezilla-project.org
FileZilla - The free FTP solution for both client and server. Filezilla is open 
source software distributed free of charge.






From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Ian Macaulay 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 8:20 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

Sorry, I may have misled,  I want to use legacy and not TNG,  I already have a 
TNG site and I  can never remember how to use it.
I was hoping that Legacy had a method to upload directly to a web site.

Ian

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Gene Wheeler 
mailto:bridge...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Joanne and Ian,

That's what TNG is all about! Basically, you simply upload your gedcom and 
you're in business. Yes, you need to make a couple decisions then, but TNG has 
some great tutorials that will take you through it. And you can choose from 
about 15 templates to get the look you want. Should you ever wish to customize 
the template, there are many ways to do so, or you can easily find someone on 
the TNG Users group or TNG Forum who will do it for you for a modest cost.

Gene
Legacy and TNG User

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Ian Macaulay 
mailto:macau...@icmac.ca>> wrote:
Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with Legacy?

I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too slow to 
remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a restricted 
web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next update is created.

Ian

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Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

2017-07-26 Thread Kevin Ferguson
Hi Ian


Restricting the webpages will have to be done either through a piece of code on 
your website (not very safe or efficient) or by using .htaccess, which will 
depend on what web hosting site you are using. I usually create a CD with the 
webpages on it and use autorun code so that my non-computer literate relatives 
can just stick the CD in and it will run.


Kevin



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Ian Macaulay 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:17 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with Legacy?

I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too slow to 
remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a restricted 
web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next update is created.

Ian

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[LegacyUG] Citing a Source

2017-07-26 Thread Dennis Birke
I've been using Legacy for several years, but I'm only beginning to cite
sources.  So, I'm still trying to figure out the best way to handle
citations.  Here is the situation I'm currently grappling with:

 

Until recently, my family database did not include information about the
descendants of one of my great-grandfather's sisters.  I recently connected
with the daughter of the sister and she has provided me with fairly complete
information about all of the sister's descendants - about 40 people when you
include spouses.  (You can imagine my delight in getting this treasure trove
of information in one fell swoop!)

 

Since this information was fairly hard to come by, I'd like to cite the
source (i.e., personal correspondence from the daughter).  But, it feels
like "overkill" to generate a citation to this source for each of four or
five fields of data for each of about 40 people.  That's a lot of repetitive
work (even when using the clipboard) and that will generate a lot of
duplicate footnotes in a descendants report (which is the type of report I
most frequently generate).  So, I have been considering preparing one
citation (probably connected with the sister) saying something like:
"Unless otherwise noted, all cited information regarding [Sister X} and her
descendants was obtained from [Name of daughter] by letter dated ."  

 

The problem I see with this approach is that for certain kinds of reports,
the single citation tied to the sister may not be included in the report and
there will be nothing cited for a the many descendants.  

 

How would those of you familiar with citation practices handle this
situation?

 

Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

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