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2018-03-07 Thread Bunny Nelson 
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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage - not free

2018-02-16 Thread Bunny Nelson 
Excellent advice joyce. I am with you! To many scam artists out there.
Bunny

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On Feb 16, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Rune Mattsson 
mailto:rune.matts...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I should never give my card number for such a “free” trial.
More and more companies including Microsoft and Norton promises free trial but 
they demand my credit card number.
 I have a special card for all internet shopping, this card I can load with 
money as required.
And, if I sometimes miss to load it I will have a very polite mail that they 
did not find money in my account.
And, if I then like them and want to continue I can transfer money to my “dummy 
card"

2018-02-16 18:59 GMT+01:00 Joyce Herzog 
mailto:joyce.her...@gmail.com>>:
After trial and error, I no longer accept Free Trials that require my credit 
card.

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:52 AM, John Cardinal 
mailto:jfcardi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Pauline,

Your post indicates that MyHeritage uses subtle techniques to try and part you 
from your money when you aren't really interested in the product they are 
pushing. Those techniques are often called "dark patterns".

Free services that convert into paid subscriptions are a common example. A free 
trial that simply ends without a subscription is fine. A free trial that 
automatically becomes a paid subscription is converting trials into sales under 
the guise of making it "easier for the customer". That's a dark pattern, albeit 
a common one. Of course, it's worse when terminating the trial before it 
converts is difficult or time-consuming: sign-up is easy, one-click, but 
cancelling is tedious, perhaps via telephone where you wait 30 minutes to get 
an agent, and then the agent tries to convince you not to cancel.

Consumers should be very careful of _every_ interaction with companies that 
employ dark practices.

John

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Re: [LegacyUG] [Legacy] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-23 Thread Bunny Nelson 
Mo not at all, nut partial blame because people don't have the full story.

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On Jan 23, 2018, at 7:09 PM, 
"johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au<mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>" 
mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>> wrote:

There is a webinar that explains why different DNA businesses provide different 
ethnic results for the same person but I do not remember which one. Basically 
they all use different pools of people/databases of DNA which they compare your 
results with. Each database varies in size and which part of the world or 
country that most of the people in it are from.
The next major problem is that each company has their own way of defining what 
constitutes each ethnicity/reference group and their geographical origins and 
borders etc.
Also, some like Ancestry only use autosomal DNA, while others may also use 
mtDNA and Y-DNA to determine ethnicity.
Finally, I think there is the possibility of contamination of DNA. I suspect 
most businesses do not employ scientists, and their procedures may be sloppy. 
Ancestry is pretty sloppy with their indexing of traditional genealogy sources 
so maybe this business culture extends to DNA processing.
These companies omit in their marketing all the reasons why the results they 
give you can be extremely misleading or misunderstood. Websites like Ancestry 
do not explain things until you purchase the test, enter a password to get the 
results with more information about how to interpret them. Even then, the 
information is buried and not spelled out. I know about Ancestry because a 
cousin used them and gave me the password to access to his DNA results.
Basically, the genealogy DNA industry preys on people’s ignorance. Caveat 
emptor.

John


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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] [Legacy] MyHeritage DNA test


Thanks, Lynn



but this makes no sense to me.

Are you saying it’s all because of Heritage DNA??





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Re: [LegacyUG] [Legacy] MyHeritage DNA test

2018-01-23 Thread Bunny Nelson 
Thanks, Lynn



but this makes no sense to me.

Are you saying it's all because of Heritage DNA??





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