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Re: [LegacyUG] Name Question

2022-06-14 Thread James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup

For last name I put the married name in parentheses ,  for first name I put Mrs.
Hoosierly yours,
James G. Hermsen8108 Laura Lynne LaneIndianapolis, IN 46217
317-679-1466 cell317-881-4600 land line 

On Tuesday, June 14, 2022, 12:09:06 PM EDT, Bill Hoff  
wrote:  
 
 I leave blank. If you enter unknown or ? a warning displays in that report. 
Now maybe that can be altered, I’ve not looked for that possibility yet. 

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On Jun 14, 2022, at 10:02 AM, Evelyn ..  wrote:



I use "Male" or "Female" 
On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 7:59 AM Fran Markle  wrote:

What do people use when they don't know the first name or the last name? I want 
to be consistent, not sure if I should use Uknown, Ukn, UkFn, etc. Curious to 
hear what others use, thanks, Fran-- 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 10?

2022-01-22 Thread James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup

Did you try contacting the company directly with your concerns?

Hoosierly yours,
James G. Hermsen8108 Laura Lynne LaneIndianapolis, IN 46217
317-679-1466 cell317-881-4600 land line 

On Saturday, January 22, 2022, 12:10:29 PM EST, Brian Kelly 
 wrote:  
 
 Sorry, confidentiality rules prevent us from revealing any new features 
in Version 10.

Brian Kelly

On 22-Jan.-22 7:35 a.m., Mary Ann Latko Groetsema wrote:
> Legacy 10?  Can any of you in the beta group answer one question about 
> the upgrade?  I am in the process of switching to RootsMagic 8 _solely 
> _for the reason that Legacy 9 does not support all the international 
> diacritics that I need.  My ancestors were from Poland and not having 
> the correct spelling of their names and locations is bothersome.  I 
> would really like to stay with Legacy, but if the next version does not 
> support the international diacritics, I'll proceed with my migration.
> 
> Thanks in advance if you can provide this information.
> 
> Mary Ann Latko Groetsema

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Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

2019-08-04 Thread James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup

No one would confuse Boston, MA, or Boston, MA, USA for being in South Africa.
Hoosierly yours,
James G. Hermsen8108 Laura Lynne LaneIndianapolis, IN 46217
317-679-1466 cell317-881-4600 land line

On ‎Saturday‎, ‎August‎ ‎03‎, ‎2019‎ ‎11‎:‎46‎:‎18‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT, Donna Newell
wrote:

This is very wise. Avoid confusion. Avoid abbreviations, USA could be United
States or Union of South Africa. Use appropriate names, enter place as it is
in the time period that the event takes place. Study up on genealogy standards
and practices.

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On Aug 3, 2019, at 9:02 PM, Christopher Seward Sr. wrote:

James,

It makes perfect sense. "New York" - is that New York City, New York County,
or New York State?

New York ,,,USA would be city

,New York ,,USA would be county

,,New York ,USA would be state

If you can tell which one someone meant by just entering "New York", you need
to play the lottery immediately. LOL

For those of us who are NOT psychic, please use that proper standard, and put
what ever you please in the notes.

My humble opinion - tempered with 35+ years of experience as a professional
genealogist.

Christopher

On 8/3/2019 2:07 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:

What does not make sense is seeing something like: , , , Indiana, United
States of America. when a simple IN would do. Or: , , , Berlin, Democratic
Republic of Germany. You can find whatever available record in Berlin today
regardless if it was Prussia, Imperial Germany, Natzi Germany, East Germany or
West Germany or Occupied American Sector, French Sector, or British Sector, or
Federal Rpublic of Germany. This junk belongs in the notes not in the primary
entry.

Hoosierly yours,
James G. Hermsen 8108 Laura Lynne Lane Indianapolis, IN 46217
317-679-1466 cell 317-881-4600 land line

On ‎Saturday‎, ‎August‎ ‎03‎, ‎2019‎ ‎09‎:‎22‎:‎00‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT,
Christopher Seward Sr wrote:

James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling
data in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data integrity
issues. As I said, the choice is yours. Just be aware of the lasting issues it
will cause for those who come after.
Christopher
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup
wrote:

Exactly my point. Putting historical location in the notes maintains all
the information one needs and still be sensible and useful to family members.
If people import information without looking at the notes, then they are not
being a good genealogist. It tells me that they just copy things for numbers,
not for reliable and useful information to share.
Hoosierly yours,
James G. Hermsen 8108 Laura Lynne Lane Indianapolis, IN 46217
317-679-1466 cell 317-881-4600 land line

On ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎02‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎51‎:‎50‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, Bill Hoff
wrote:

Then one cannot find on a map if historic locations used. With many
relatives in West Virginia I have this problem. WV did not become a state
until June 20, 1863. On top of that many counties within the state were
divided over many years, far too many for me to recall them all. Then there is
the problem of knowing locations but not dates so one cannot be certain of
entries Bill

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On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Seward Sr. wrote:

You are free to record as you choose, but keep in mind that if you publish &
share this information, your method goes against the standard, and can cause
issues.

An example for me was importing a person's info into my file. I kept getting
import errors stating the the location (birth place) did not exist on that
date (birth date). Now I have an issue, since this place not only didn't exist
when this person was born, but when it did exist, it was in a different
country than when he was born, thus making him appear to be of one heritage,
but was actually another.

I recommend ALWAYS putting the correct location in, and putting the current
name of the location in the notes.

On 8/1/2019 4:41 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:

Yes, but in the notes. Most people I share my information with want to
know where the place is now. They, like Trump, have no regard for history, and
those who know their history, already know what the original name is. Looking
for documents, the current place will know what jurisdiction they once were
governed by. It is all about being usable for current people. Otherwise, we
would all be recording everying in Latin like they once did.
Hoosierly yours,
James G. Hermsen 8108 Laura Lynne Lane Indianapolis, IN 46217
317-679-1466 cell 317-881-4600 land line

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎August‎ ‎01‎, ‎2019‎ ‎01‎:‎22‎:‎29‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT,
sarrazingeor...@gmail.com wrote:

I think one should always the name of a location

Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

2019-08-04 Thread James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup

Well the most obvious is to use CA if your database is originated in the USA 
for California.  and to use CANADA if you for outside the USA.  That is  if you 
did not know that Toronto, Ontario,  CA was in  Canada. or Toronto,  ON the 
same.
Hoosierly yours,
James G. Hermsen8108 Laura Lynne LaneIndianapolis, IN 46217
317-679-1466 cell317-881-4600 land line 

   On ‎Saturday‎, ‎August‎ ‎03‎, ‎2019‎ ‎10‎:‎27‎:‎05‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT, Roberta 
Schwalm  wrote:  
 
 Yes, it is.  CA is the abbreviation for both California and Canada, which is 
why I always enter California or Canada instead of simply CA.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 9:23 PM Anne Hildrum  wrote:


Well isn't CA an Acronym. 

 

Ane

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Ian Macaulay
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 10:51 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

 

I Live in CA, Not California    IMHO Acronyms are not proper English, and it 
confuses your Neighbors.

 

 

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 3:14 PM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup 
 wrote:


I never had a Gedcom file not accept any location file whether it had 
Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN, or even Indianapolis, IN. not to mention 
Indianapolis, xxx Township, Marion County, Indiana, United States of America.  
You soon get the point that the latter is the creation of someone who thinks 
that they need to police something totally not needed by anyone with common 
sense, or a tad bit of education.

 

Hoosierly yours,

 

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

 

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

 

 

On ‎Saturday‎, ‎August‎ ‎03‎, ‎2019‎ ‎09‎:‎43‎:‎25‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, 
 wrote: 

 

 

Christopher

I agree with you. 

My suggestion of putting the present name between curly brackets after the 
referenced location name is simply an easy way to translate old location name 
into present day name and it is accepted by the different Gedcom programs.

 

Georges

 

 

De : LegacyUserGroup  De la part de 
Christopher Seward Sr
Envoyé : 3 août 2019 09:21
À : Legacy User Group 
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

 

James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling data 
in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data integrity issues. 
As I said,  the choice is yours. Just be aware of the lasting issues it will 
cause for those who come after.

 

Christopher 

 

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup 
 wrote:


Exactly my point.  Putting historical location in the notes maintains all the 
information one needs and still be sensible and useful to family members.  If 
people import information without looking at the notes, then they are not being 
a good genealogist.   It tells me that they just copy things for numbers, not 
for reliable and useful information to share.

 

Hoosierly yours,

 

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

 

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

 

 

On ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎02‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎51‎:‎50‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, Bill Hoff 
 wrote: 

 

 

Then one cannot find on a map if historic locations used. With many relatives 
in West Virginia I have this problem. WV did not become a state until June 20, 
1863.  On top of that many counties within the state were divided over many 
years, far too many for me to recall them all. Then there is the problem of 
knowing locations but not dates so one cannot be certain of entries 

Bill

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Seward Sr.  wrote:

You are free to record as you choose, but keep in mind that if you publish & 
share this information, your method goes against the standard, and can cause 
issues.  

An example for me was importing a person's info into my file.  I kept getting 
import errors stating the the location (birth place) did not exist on that date 
(birth date).  Now I have an issue, since this place not only didn't exist when 
this person was born, but when it did exist, it was in a different country than 
when he was born, thus making him appear to be of one heritage, but was 
actually another.

I recommend ALWAYS putting the correct location in, and putting the current 
name of the location in the notes.

On 8/1/2019 4:41 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:

Yes, but in the notes.  Most people I share my information with want to know 
where the place is now.  They, like Trump, have no regard for history, and 
those who know their history, already know what the original name is.  Looking 
for documents, the current place will know what jurisdiction they once were  
governed by.  It is all about being usable for current people.  Otherwise, we 
would all be recording everying in Latin like they once did.

 

Hoosierly yours,

 

James G. Hermsen

8108 Laura Lynne Lane

Indianapolis, IN 46217

 

317-679-1466 cell

317-881-4600 land line

 

 

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎August‎ ‎01‎, ‎2019‎ ‎01‎:‎22‎:‎29‎ ‎PM‎

Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

2019-08-04 Thread James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup

Your example does not make much sense. A true genealogist would use the
borough name if in the city, the town if on long Island, and NY.
Hoosierly yours,
James G. Hermsen8108 Laura Lynne LaneIndianapolis, IN 46217
317-679-1466 cell317-881-4600 land line

On ‎Saturday‎, ‎August‎ ‎03‎, ‎2019‎ ‎10‎:‎02‎:‎53‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT, Christopher
Seward Sr. wrote: