Re: [LegacyUG] Collections of private papers
Welcome Ben! On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 1:45 PM wrote: > I have access to collections of materials relative to my research. These fall > into two broad categories: ... > To make it clear what is going on, I have in my ABC collection a prayer card > for John Smith that bears the date 17 Jan 1954. If I make ABC a “Letter,” > generated by Arnold B. Chester, call it “Document Collection” and put the > prayer card info in the “Notes” part of the reference and say include that in > the report, I get a first footnote that looks like: > Arnold B. Chester Document Collection prayer card 17 Jan 1954, > John Smith, held by Woznick. > The second reference is then. > Arnold B. Chester. > The prayer card, its date, and anything else it might say has vanished. > I don’t want to create a separate source for each of these items. Even if I > did, I am not sure what kind of source they might be. > Any suggestions? Maybe. I'm not sure which report you are using but it is common to not repeat the same text over and over. Normally in genealogy we use ibid for this, which is better than just a name because it signals a repeat. Try going into Options > then Customize > It will pop up a dialog box and Select Sources (on the left side) > Once that loads, scroll down to 7.8 Citation Formatting and ensure that is checked. That does not repeat the source, but will indicate it's a repeat. If it is already checked, try unchecking it and see if that fixes the problem. There's more settings though to play around with. Report menus have their own settings. When you select a report, you there is a tab for Sources which are additional options. You can play around with those and preview the differences. It just takes a little time to get used to it. I'm sorry this isn't more helpful but just wanted to let you know that there are many options to look for. I wish I could be more specific. Cindy Lloyd -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Collections of private papers
Jenny, I have been using Legacy since v 1 or 2. I eagerly adopted the Sourcewriter because before that I had been doing a rather sketchy job of sourcing my material. Obviously, I have been using the Sourcewriter without learning about it!! I did not even know there was an Artefact source!! I think of all the pictures I've attached where I could have sourced them. Shame on me. While I'm at it, thanks for all you do to help us. I never miss reading these posts and learning from them. Jane in Phoenix -Original Message- From: LegacyUserGroup On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:46 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Collections of private papers On 14/09/2019 21:44, b...@woznick.com wrote: > I am currently trying to convert my genealogy files from another > software base, and find that it can be rather difficult. This note > addresses one of the problems. > > I have access to collections of materials relative to my research. > These fall into two broad categories: > > 1. An individual that I am researching has accumulated a number of > items (prayer cards for other individuals, wedding invitations, > etc.) that I would like to reference in my reports. > 2. Some third party (like a historical society, genealogical society or > a professional genealogist) has accumulated materials of this sort, > and I have access to those materials. For example, there may be a > clipping file that does not identify the original newspaper from > which the clippings come. > > If I had access to the template mechanism in Legacy, I could image > that I could create an appropriate "Private Papers" source type, and > get the right thing. I have tried to figure out some way to bend one > of the standard forms to deal with type 1 collections, which are more > pressing at this point. I thought briefly that I could say that the > collection was actually a "Letter," but that doesn't work because the > mechanism doesn't seem to handle detail references correctly. > I'm not sure what you mean by "if I had acces to the template mechanism in Legacy ...". I use the SourceWriter and for the sort of things you mention I use the Artefact template. I have used it for Godparent cards, Funeral Order of Service, Eulogies, Invitations, Scrapbooks and for some newspaper clippings where the name of the paper, date etc is unknown. -- Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ Wrexham, UK -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Collections of private papers
On 14/09/2019 21:44, b...@woznick.com wrote: I am currently trying to convert my genealogy files from another software base, and find that it can be rather difficult. This note addresses one of the problems. I have access to collections of materials relative to my research. These fall into two broad categories: 1. An individual that I am researching has accumulated a number of items (prayer cards for other individuals, wedding invitations, etc.) that I would like to reference in my reports. 2. Some third party (like a historical society, genealogical society or a professional genealogist) has accumulated materials of this sort, and I have access to those materials. For example, there may be a clipping file that does not identify the original newspaper from which the clippings come. If I had access to the template mechanism in Legacy, I could image that I could create an appropriate “Private Papers” source type, and get the right thing. I have tried to figure out some way to bend one of the standard forms to deal with type 1 collections, which are more pressing at this point. I thought briefly that I could say that the collection was actually a “Letter,” but that doesn’t work because the mechanism doesn’t seem to handle detail references correctly. I'm not sure what you mean by "if I had acces to the template mechanism in Legacy ...". I use the SourceWriter and for the sort of things you mention I use the Artefact template. I have used it for Godparent cards, Funeral Order of Service, Eulogies, Invitations, Scrapbooks and for some newspaper clippings where the name of the paper, date etc is unknown. -- Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ Wrexham, UK -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Collections of private papers
Try using the Basic Source. You can have the following: Source List Name: Source title that you see in index of sources Type: Book, Deed, Poem, etc Author: whoever Title: Source title that prints in reports (normally, the same as Source List Name) Publication Facts: Enter any text you want here – your poems. Record Date: your record date or the date of source/event Using the TABs, you can also add Text of Source, Comments, Repository and Media. All of these Source fields are free form text fields, so you can enter anything you like to tailor your source. Another thing you could possible use is Stories for an individual. If a person wrote a poem, then you can document that using a Story for each poem with a Title, a date, a place and the story, and a picture if you have one. ++ Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: b...@woznick.com Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 1:45 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Collections of private papers I am currently trying to convert my genealogy files from another software base, and find that it can be rather difficult. This note addresses one of the problems. I have access to collections of materials relative to my research. These fall into two broad categories: 1. An individual that I am researching has accumulated a number of items (prayer cards for other individuals, wedding invitations, etc.) that I would like to reference in my reports. 2. Some third party (like a historical society, genealogical society or a professional genealogist) has accumulated materials of this sort, and I have access to those materials. For example, there may be a clipping file that does not identify the original newspaper from which the clippings come. If I had access to the template mechanism in Legacy, I could image that I could create an appropriate “Private Papers” source type, and get the right thing. I have tried to figure out some way to bend one of the standard forms to deal with type 1 collections, which are more pressing at this point. I thought briefly that I could say that the collection was actually a “Letter,” but that doesn’t work because the mechanism doesn’t seem to handle detail references correctly. To make it clear what is going on, I have in my ABC collection a prayer card for John Smith that bears the date 17 Jan 1954. If I make ABC a “Letter,” generated by Arnold B. Chester, call it “Document Collection” and put the prayer card info in the “Notes” part of the reference and say include that in the report, I get a first footnote that looks like: Arnold B. Chester Document Collection prayer card 17 Jan 1954, John Smith, held by Woznick. The second reference is then. Arnold B. Chester. The prayer card, its date, and anything else it might say has vanished. I don’t want to create a separate source for each of these items. Even if I did, I am not sure what kind of source they might be. Any suggestions? Ben Woznick -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
[LegacyUG] Collections of private papers
I am currently trying to convert my genealogy files from another software base, and find that it can be rather difficult. This note addresses one of the problems. I have access to collections of materials relative to my research. These fall into two broad categories: 1. An individual that I am researching has accumulated a number of items (prayer cards for other individuals, wedding invitations, etc.) that I would like to reference in my reports. 2. Some third party (like a historical society, genealogical society or a professional genealogist) has accumulated materials of this sort, and I have access to those materials. For example, there may be a clipping file that does not identify the original newspaper from which the clippings come. If I had access to the template mechanism in Legacy, I could image that I could create an appropriate "Private Papers" source type, and get the right thing. I have tried to figure out some way to bend one of the standard forms to deal with type 1 collections, which are more pressing at this point. I thought briefly that I could say that the collection was actually a "Letter," but that doesn't work because the mechanism doesn't seem to handle detail references correctly. To make it clear what is going on, I have in my ABC collection a prayer card for John Smith that bears the date 17 Jan 1954. If I make ABC a "Letter," generated by Arnold B. Chester, call it "Document Collection" and put the prayer card info in the "Notes" part of the reference and say include that in the report, I get a first footnote that looks like: Arnold B. Chester Document Collection prayer card 17 Jan 1954, John Smith, held by Woznick. The second reference is then. Arnold B. Chester. The prayer card, its date, and anything else it might say has vanished. I don't want to create a separate source for each of these items. Even if I did, I am not sure what kind of source they might be. Any suggestions? Ben Woznick -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
