Re: [LegacyUG] File Name Issue - Conflicted Copy

[Cathy Pinner]

Bill,
In addition to what Leon has said, if you've been adding data to this 
conflicted copy, you could search in it for people modified after the 
date you probably started using it and tag and export that tag group to 
a new Legacy file then import that into the file you've accepted as the 
base.

In the Detailed Search
Individual - modified date - after - date you specify
Then do an Intellishare merge.
You could merge all the conflicted databases but it's a lengthy job 
which can be shortened considerably by only merging those whose data 
has/may have changed.


Unless you have really fast internet and you are patient and make sure 
Dropbox has finished syncing before opening Legacy, keeping your working 
data in the cloud isn't a good idea.
Look at the Dropbox icon in the System tray to see if Dropbox has 
finished syncing. It should have a green tick and when you hover over 
it, it pops up "Up to date"


I save my backups to Dropbox. I only have one computer but recently set 
up a friend to use two by putting the working data files onto a thumb 
drive so that has to be moved from one computer to the other. So far 
that's working much better than his attempts to use Dropbox which 
invariably ended up with conflicted copies.


Cathy

Bill Hoff wrote:


Thanks Leon

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Chapman
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:29 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] File Name Issue - Conflicted Copy

Bill:

I would not delete any files yet.

Do you have a backup of your database before this took place? If so, I
would restore that or start using that database.

If not, you will probably just have to open the last non-conflicted
database and then do a File, Save As, and give it a new name - I like
to use a name and date as part of the file name, e.g.,
Bill_Hoff_Family_25July17.fdb.

You may have lost some work when this all took place, so you will want
to check areas that your were working on to see if the data is what
you expect. I would make sure the renamed database seems to be ok
before I deleted the conflicting file.

The Media files can be stored in a separate location. So they might be
on Drive C:\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Media\. Normally, your
database is stored at: C:\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Data\

If you have moved your data to DropBox, I would recommend a similar
folder structure:

\DropBox\Legacy Family Tree\Data\ &

\DropBox\Legacy Family Tree\Media\

You will need to created those DropBox subfolders.

Here is the techie stuff as to why you had conflicting files:

1. Legacy runs on a single computer and their database is not network
concurrent record change compatible.

2. To have multiple computers (users) accessing a file (database) at
the same time, there has to be several rules implemented that lock out
other users while one user is changing a record in the database — you
cannot have multiple people changing the same database record
concurrently. Legacy does not implement such network / database rules
and I am sure never will.

Bottom line, “YOU" have to control access to your database one person
at a time. So, if you have a Laptop & Desktop, only use one of those
while having your Legacy database open. Make sure you close Legacy on
one computer before going to the other computer to open the database
and wait a few minutes until the file are synced in DropBox and all
computers. Some people say they hardly ever close Legacy — that is a
mistake in my opinion, it should be closed every time you leave your
computer for more than say 10-15 minutes.

Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com <mailto:chap...@gmail.com>

On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Bill Hoff mailto:bh...@mchsi.com>> wrote:

I do use DropBox, but have not done so very long, so I may have
had the two computers on at the same time. Now how do I fix this
issue? Somewhere in my searching for what might be the problem I
saw two sets of files with different paths but both on the C
drive. One was for media and one for I’m assuming the data. Would
it be safe to delete on set or the other to repair the conflicting
file issue; then rename the files? Or am I way out in left field;
I’m a novice when it comes to all this.

Bill

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]*On Behalf Of*Leon
Chapman
*Sent:*Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:20 PM
*To:*Legacy User Group
*Subject:*Re: [LegacyUG] File Name Issue - Conflicted Copy

Looks like you may have had the file open using two computers at
the same time using DropBox or some cloud storage.

If so, the cardinal RULE is: Use only one computer at a time to
work on your cloud stored database.

So, if you have your file open on one computer, be sure to
completely exit Legacy before opening the file on another
computer. You also need to allow some time for the database file
to sync with the cloud and all computers. Normal a few minut

Re: [LegacyUG] File Name Issue - Conflicted Copy

[Bill Hoff]

Thanks Leon

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leon Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:29 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] File Name Issue - Conflicted Copy

 

Bill:

 

I would not delete any files yet.

 

Do you have a backup of your database before this took place?  If so, I would 
restore that or start using that database.

If not, you will probably just have to open the last non-conflicted database 
and then do a File, Save As, and give it a new name - I like to use a name and 
date as part of the file name, e.g., Bill_Hoff_Family_25July17.fdb.

 

You may have lost some work when this all took place, so you will want to check 
areas that your were working on to see if the data is what you expect.  I would 
make sure the renamed database seems to be ok before I deleted the conflicting 
file.

 

The Media files can be stored in a separate location.  So they might be on 
Drive C:\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Media\.  Normally, your database is 
stored at:  C:\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Data\

 

If you have moved your data to DropBox, I would recommend a similar folder 
structure:

\DropBox\Legacy Family Tree\Data\&

\DropBox\Legacy Family Tree\Media\ 

 

You will need to created those DropBox subfolders.

 

Here is the techie stuff as to why you had conflicting files:

1. Legacy runs on a single computer and their database is not network 
concurrent record change compatible.

2. To have multiple computers (users) accessing a file (database) at the same 
time, there has to be several rules implemented that lock out other users while 
one user is changing a record in the database — you cannot have multiple people 
changing the same database record concurrently.  Legacy does not implement such 
network / database rules and I am sure never will.

 

Bottom line, “YOU" have to control access to your database one person at a 
time.  So, if you have a Laptop & Desktop, only use one of those while having 
your Legacy database open.  Make sure you close Legacy on one computer before 
going to the other computer to open the database and wait a few minutes until 
the file are synced in DropBox and all computers.   Some people say they hardly 
ever close Legacy — that is a mistake in my opinion, it should be closed every 
time you leave your computer for more than say 10-15 minutes.

 

Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com



 

On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Bill Hoff  wrote:

 

I do use DropBox, but have not done so very long, so I may have had the two 
computers on at the same time.  Now how do I fix this issue?  Somewhere in my 
searching for what might be the problem I saw two sets of files with different 
paths but both on the C drive.  One was for media and one for I’m assuming the 
data.  Would it be safe to delete on set or the other to repair the conflicting 
file issue; then rename the files?  Or am I way out in left field; I’m a novice 
when it comes to all this.

Bill

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [ <mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Leon Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:20 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] File Name Issue - Conflicted Copy

 

Looks like you may have had the file open using two computers at the same time 
using DropBox or some cloud storage.

If so, the cardinal RULE is:  Use only one computer at a time to work on your 
cloud stored database.  

 

So, if you have your file open on one computer, be sure to completely exit 
Legacy before opening the file on another computer.  You also need to allow 
some time for the database file to sync with the cloud and all computers.  
Normal a few minutes, but depends on the cloud service and your internet speed. 
 With Dropbox, you normal see a file sync notification in upper right of 
screen.  Other cloud services may not be as user friendly or sync as fast a 
DropBox.

 

 


Leon Chapman
 <mailto:chap...@gmail.com> chap...@gmail.com




 

On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Bill Hoff < <mailto:bh...@mchsi.com> 
bh...@mchsi.com> wrote:

 

Greetings,

  I see that my legacy file for some unknown reason to me, the following now 
appears as an insert to the fdb and media file name .

   (DESKTOP-H9R2TCG’s Conflicted copy 2017-06-15)

  What have I done, and how do I correct this?  All seems to be working fine 
using this file, but I’ve done something wrong as I certainly did not add the 
questioned inserted statement to the file name.

Bill

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] File Name Issue - Conflicted Copy

[Leon Chapman]

Bill:

I would not delete any files yet.

Do you have a backup of your database before this took place?  If so, I would 
restore that or start using that database.
If not, you will probably just have to open the last non-conflicted database 
and then do a File, Save As, and give it a new name - I like to use a name and 
date as part of the file name, e.g., Bill_Hoff_Family_25July17.fdb.

You may have lost some work when this all took place, so you will want to check 
areas that your were working on to see if the data is what you expect.  I would 
make sure the renamed database seems to be ok before I deleted the conflicting 
file.

The Media files can be stored in a separate location.  So they might be on 
Drive C:\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Media\.  Normally, your database is 
stored at:  C:\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Data\

If you have moved your data to DropBox, I would recommend a similar folder 
structure:
\DropBox\Legacy Family Tree\Data\&
\DropBox\Legacy Family Tree\Media\ 

You will need to created those DropBox subfolders.

Here is the techie stuff as to why you had conflicting files:
1. Legacy runs on a single computer and their database is not network 
concurrent record change compatible.
2. To have multiple computers (users) accessing a file (database) at the same 
time, there has to be several rules implemented that lock out other users while 
one user is changing a record in the database — you cannot have multiple people 
changing the same database record concurrently.  Legacy does not implement such 
network / database rules and I am sure never will.

Bottom line, “YOU" have to control access to your database one person at a 
time.  So, if you have a Laptop & Desktop, only use one of those while having 
your Legacy database open.  Make sure you close Legacy on one computer before 
going to the other computer to open the database and wait a few minutes until 
the file are synced in DropBox and all computers.   Some people say they hardly 
ever close Legacy — that is a mistake in my opinion, it should be closed every 
time you leave your computer for more than say 10-15 minutes.

Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com



> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Bill Hoff  wrote:
> 
> I do use DropBox, but have not done so very long, so I may have had the two 
> computers on at the same time.  Now how do I fix this issue?  Somewhere in my 
> searching for what might be the problem I saw two sets of files with 
> different paths but both on the C drive.  One was for media and one for I’m 
> assuming the data.  Would it be safe to delete on set or the other to repair 
> the conflicting file issue; then rename the files?  Or am I way out in left 
> field; I’m a novice when it comes to all this.
> Bill
>  
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
> <mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>] On Behalf Of Leon Chapman
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:20 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] File Name Issue - Conflicted Copy
>  
> Looks like you may have had the file open using two computers at the same 
> time using DropBox or some cloud storage.
> If so, the cardinal RULE is:  Use only one computer at a time to work on your 
> cloud stored database.  
>  
> So, if you have your file open on one computer, be sure to completely exit 
> Legacy before opening the file on another computer.  You also need to allow 
> some time for the database file to sync with the cloud and all computers.  
> Normal a few minutes, but depends on the cloud service and your internet 
> speed.  With Dropbox, you normal see a file sync notification in upper right 
> of screen.  Other cloud services may not be as user friendly or sync as fast 
> a DropBox.
>  
>  
> 
> Leon Chapman
> chap...@gmail.com <mailto:chap...@gmail.com>
> 
>  
>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Bill Hoff > <mailto:bh...@mchsi.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Greetings,
>>   I see that my legacy file for some unknown reason to me, the following now 
>> appears as an insert to the fdb and media file name .
>>(DESKTOP-H9R2TCG’s Conflicted copy 2017-06-15)
>>   What have I done, and how do I correct this?  All seems to be working fine 
>> using this file, but I’ve done something wrong as I certainly did not add 
>> the questioned inserted statement to the file name.
>> Bill
>>  
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Re: [LegacyUG] File Name Issue - Conflicted Copy

[Bill Hoff]

I do use DropBox, but have not done so very long, so I may have had the two 
computers on at the same time.  Now how do I fix this issue?  Somewhere in my 
searching for what might be the problem I saw two sets of files with different 
paths but both on the C drive.  One was for media and one for I’m assuming the 
data.  Would it be safe to delete on set or the other to repair the conflicting 
file issue; then rename the files?  Or am I way out in left field; I’m a novice 
when it comes to all this.

Bill

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leon Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:20 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] File Name Issue - Conflicted Copy

 

Looks like you may have had the file open using two computers at the same time 
using DropBox or some cloud storage.

If so, the cardinal RULE is:  Use only one computer at a time to work on your 
cloud stored database.  

 

So, if you have your file open on one computer, be sure to completely exit 
Legacy before opening the file on another computer.  You also need to allow 
some time for the database file to sync with the cloud and all computers.  
Normal a few minutes, but depends on the cloud service and your internet speed. 
 With Dropbox, you normal see a file sync notification in upper right of 
screen.  Other cloud services may not be as user friendly or sync as fast a 
DropBox.

 

 


Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com



 

On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Bill Hoff  wrote:

 

Greetings,

  I see that my legacy file for some unknown reason to me, the following now 
appears as an insert to the fdb and media file name .

   (DESKTOP-H9R2TCG’s Conflicted copy 2017-06-15)

  What have I done, and how do I correct this?  All seems to be working fine 
using this file, but I’ve done something wrong as I certainly did not add the 
questioned inserted statement to the file name.

Bill

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] File Name Issue - Conflicted Copy

[Leon Chapman]

Looks like you may have had the file open using two computers at the same time 
using DropBox or some cloud storage.
If so, the cardinal RULE is:  Use only one computer at a time to work on your 
cloud stored database.  

So, if you have your file open on one computer, be sure to completely exit 
Legacy before opening the file on another computer.  You also need to allow 
some time for the database file to sync with the cloud and all computers.  
Normal a few minutes, but depends on the cloud service and your internet speed. 
 With Dropbox, you normal see a file sync notification in upper right of 
screen.  Other cloud services may not be as user friendly or sync as fast a 
DropBox.



Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com



> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Bill Hoff  wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
>   I see that my legacy file for some unknown reason to me, the following now 
> appears as an insert to the fdb and media file name .
>(DESKTOP-H9R2TCG’s Conflicted copy 2017-06-15)
>   What have I done, and how do I correct this?  All seems to be working fine 
> using this file, but I’ve done something wrong as I certainly did not add the 
> questioned inserted statement to the file name.
> Bill
>  
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[LegacyUG] File Name Issue - Conflicted Copy

[Bill Hoff]

Greetings,

  I see that my legacy file for some unknown reason to me, the following now
appears as an insert to the fdb and media file name .

   (DESKTOP-H9R2TCG's Conflicted copy 2017-06-15)

  What have I done, and how do I correct this?  All seems to be working fine
using this file, but I've done something wrong as I certainly did not add
the questioned inserted statement to the file name.

Bill

 

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