Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage

2015-02-12 Thread gerald
 
 

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 7:08 AM
From: Howlanddavisii 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage


To all who wrote:

 

    Thanks for your comments.  But I understand why there is a potential problem and I understand, and have, excluded problems where I have checked.  My concern, and comment. is why my grand aunt has the symbol but her parents do not when, if you would look for an additional child, my grand aunt's name would not be involved.  Her parents' names would be; to me, that is what one would be looking for.  You are looking for the birth of a child by the parents, not by a subsequent son/daughter.

 

Howland Davis

 

P.S. Nan, my given name is Howland, not Howard , no problem.  For three years, when I worked for Goodyear Tire, the company computer system changed Howland to Holland because I, obviously, did not know what I was typing.  I finally found the right IT individual who changed the system so it would just underline Howland in red but not change it.  And motels frequently take my reservation and then put it under Howland so that I am told that they have no reservation for Davis.

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Nan Bailey 
To: legacyusergroup 
Sent: Thu, Feb 12, 2015 4:34 am
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
 




Howard, the red exclamation mark shows what Legacy sees as a "possible" error and one that says "birth date too late after marriage" just indicates that in usual circumstances, there would be births between the marriage date and that childs birth date. Mostly the first birth occurs within the first 2 - 3 years, so with the large gap, there is a strong possibility that there are births you haven't found or still births that may not even be recorded.

It isn't saying  your Great Aunt is the problem, just that before her birth there could be births you have missed. I found this out as I also had this message and I also know there are definitely no births beforehand in mine like you.

There is a way to turn off this exclamation mark for just this one incident I think. Someone with a better knowledge of how Legacy 8 works will tell you. 

Nan Bailey
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Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage

2015-02-12 Thread Charani
On 12/02/2015 14:08, Howlanddavisii wrote:
> My concern, and comment. is why my grand aunt has the symbol but her parents 
> do not when, if you would look for an additional child, my grand aunt's name 
> would not be involved.  Her parents' names would be; to me, that is what one 
> would be looking for.  You are looking for the birth of a child by the 
> parents, not by a subsequent son/daughter.

I understand you.

I believe what the system is highlighting is that it thinks you may
have entered the year incorrectly (birth given as 1923 when the
marriage was in 1913). That's why it highlights the child rather than
the parents although I can see a case for highlighting the parents too
as you might have entered their marriage date incorrectly (given as
1813 when it should have been 1913).

Maybe a suggestion that parents and child both be highlighted where
there's an apparent mismatch of dates?

Best mismatch I had was a death /before/ the birth registration and
the dates were correct.

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Greinton and Clutton, SOM
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Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage

2015-02-12 Thread Charani
On 12/02/2015 11:32, Cathy Pinner wrote:
> The right click brings up the section on the Individual Form where you
> can exclude the problem manually. (Not sure why you would since the
> button will find the right criteria and do it for you.)

Some people prefer to do things manually :) Can't say I wholly blame
them :)

I'm pretty sure I did as you said in your first para.

I think it's good there is such an obvious highlight of a potential
problem.

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Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage

2015-02-12 Thread Howlanddavisii

To all who wrote:

Thanks for your comments.  But I understand why there is a potential 
problem and I understand, and have, excluded problems where I have checked.  My 
concern, and comment. is why my grand aunt has the symbol but her parents do 
not when, if you would look for an additional child, my grand aunt's name would 
not be involved.  Her parents' names would be; to me, that is what one would be 
looking for.  You are looking for the birth of a child by the parents, not by a 
subsequent son/daughter.

Howland Davis

P.S. Nan, my given name is Howland, not Howard , no problem.  For three 
years, when I worked for Goodyear Tire, the company computer system changed 
Howland to Holland because I, obviously, did not know what I was typing.  I 
finally found the right IT individual who changed the system so it would just 
underline Howland in red but not change it.  And motels frequently take my 
reservation and then put it under Howland so that I am told that they have no 
reservation for Davis.


-Original Message-
From: Nan Bailey 
To: legacyusergroup 
Sent: Thu, Feb 12, 2015 4:34 am
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage




Howard, the red exclamation mark shows what Legacy sees as a "possible" error 
and one that says "birth date too late after marriage" just indicates that in 
usual circumstances, there would be births between the marriage date and that 
childs birth date. Mostly the first birth occurs within the first 2 - 3 years, 
so with the large gap, there is a strong possibility that there are births you 
haven't found or still births that may not even be recorded.

It isn't saying  your Great Aunt is the problem, just that before her birth 
there could be births you have missed. I found this out as I also had this 
message and I also know there are definitely no births beforehand in mine like 
you.

There is a way to turn off this exclamation mark for just this one incident I 
think. Someone with a better knowledge of how Legacy 8 works will tell you.

Nan Bailey

Aus





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Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage

2015-02-12 Thread Cathy Pinner
If you check out a potential problem and decide it isn't a problem,
click on the red exclamation mark and choose the Mark as not a Problem
button. It's really very quick and easy. If you hover over it, it will
show what your options are.

The click to view details has a button to Mark as not a Problem after
you've reviewed the data. If there isn't enough data there it has
buttons to get to other data.
The right click brings up the section on the Individual Form where you
can exclude the problem manually. (Not sure why you would since the
button will find the right criteria and do it for you.)
The shift plus right click brings up the dialogue where you can change
the criteria of what is considered a problem.

Easy
Cathy

Charani wrote:
>
> On 12/02/2015 09:32, Nan Bailey wrote:
>>
>> There is a way to turn off this exclamation mark for just this one
>> incident
>> I think. Someone with a better knowledge of how Legacy 8 works will tell
>> you.
>
>
> I had someone flagged as a "possible problem". I think all I did was
> mark it as "exclude from problems".
>
> My mother was flagged as a "possible problem" because of the length of
> time she was born after my grandmother married. Unless there were
> some miscarriages/still births I don't know about, my problem mother
> was the only child.




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Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage

2015-02-12 Thread Charani
On 12/02/2015 09:32, Nan Bailey wrote:
> There is a way to turn off this exclamation mark for just this one incident
> I think. Someone with a better knowledge of how Legacy 8 works will tell
> you.

I had someone flagged as a "possible problem".  I think all I did was
mark it as "exclude from problems".

My mother was flagged as a "possible problem" because of the length of
time she was born after my grandmother married.  Unless there were
some miscarriages/still births I don't know about, my problem mother
was the only child.

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Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage

2015-02-12 Thread Nan Bailey
Howard, the red exclamation mark shows what Legacy sees as a "possible"
error and one that says "birth date too late after marriage" just indicates
that in usual circumstances, there would be births between the marriage
date and that childs birth date. Mostly the first birth occurs within the
first 2 - 3 years, so with the large gap, there is a strong possibility
that there are births you haven't found or still births that may not even
be recorded.

It isn't saying  your Great Aunt is the problem, just that before her birth
there could be births you have missed. I found this out as I also had this
message and I also know there are definitely no births beforehand in mine
like you.

There is a way to turn off this exclamation mark for just this one incident
I think. Someone with a better knowledge of how Legacy 8 works will tell
you.
Nan Bailey
Aus

On 12 February 2015 at 12:13, Brian/Support 
wrote:

> Well it is her birth date that indicates there may be a problem. That is
> why the symbol is on her.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> On 11/02/2015 7:22 PM, Howlanddavisii wrote:
> >
> > Brian:
> >
> >   OK, that may be Legacy's definition but why is it a potential
> problem for her and not for her parents?  Her parents were the couple who
> could have a missing child.  My grand aunt had nothing to do with the
> process.  Is this an error in who has the red exclamation symbol attached
> to them?
> >
> > Howland Davis
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brian/Support 
> > To: legacyusergroup 
> > Sent: Wed, Feb 11, 2015 7:09 pm
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
> >
> >
> > It is referring to her and the fact that, I assume she was the first
> > born child, she was born too many years after the marriage of her
> parents.
> >
> > Brian
> > Customer Support
> > Millennia Corporation
> > br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
> >
> > On 11/02/2015 5:28 PM, Howlanddavisii wrote:
> >>
> >>   I am using Legacy 8, download 8.0.0.454 (I know, I should update).
> >>   I have a grand aunt who has a red exclamation symbol.  When I
> click for
> > the details, it says 'Birth of first child tool ate after after marriage
> date.'
> > She had no children and it is marked as such.  Her parents married seven
> years
> > before her birth.  So to whom is the potential problem referring?  If
> you are
> > looking for a preceding sibling, shouldn't the parents have the red
> exclamation
> > symbol not their child; the child was not involved with the birth of any
> prior
> > child?
> >>
> >> Howland Davis
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage

2015-02-11 Thread Brian/Support
Well it is her birth date that indicates there may be a problem. That is
why the symbol is on her.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 11/02/2015 7:22 PM, Howlanddavisii wrote:
>
> Brian:
>
>   OK, that may be Legacy's definition but why is it a potential problem 
> for her and not for her parents?  Her parents were the couple who could have 
> a missing child.  My grand aunt had nothing to do with the process.  Is this 
> an error in who has the red exclamation symbol attached to them?
>
> Howland Davis
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian/Support 
> To: legacyusergroup 
> Sent: Wed, Feb 11, 2015 7:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
>
>
> It is referring to her and the fact that, I assume she was the first
> born child, she was born too many years after the marriage of her parents.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> On 11/02/2015 5:28 PM, Howlanddavisii wrote:
>>
>>   I am using Legacy 8, download 8.0.0.454 (I know, I should update).
>>   I have a grand aunt who has a red exclamation symbol.  When I click for
> the details, it says 'Birth of first child tool ate after after marriage 
> date.'
> She had no children and it is marked as such.  Her parents married seven years
> before her birth.  So to whom is the potential problem referring?  If you are
> looking for a preceding sibling, shouldn't the parents have the red 
> exclamation
> symbol not their child; the child was not involved with the birth of any prior
> child?
>>
>> Howland Davis
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage

2015-02-11 Thread Howlanddavisii

Brian:

 OK, that may be Legacy's definition but why is it a potential problem for 
her and not for her parents?  Her parents were the couple who could have a 
missing child.  My grand aunt had nothing to do with the process.  Is this an 
error in who has the red exclamation symbol attached to them?

Howland Davis

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support 
To: legacyusergroup 
Sent: Wed, Feb 11, 2015 7:09 pm
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage


It is referring to her and the fact that, I assume she was the first
born child, she was born too many years after the marriage of her parents.

Brian
Customer Support
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br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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On 11/02/2015 5:28 PM, Howlanddavisii wrote:
>
>  I am using Legacy 8, download 8.0.0.454 (I know, I should update).
>  I have a grand aunt who has a red exclamation symbol.  When I click for
the details, it says 'Birth of first child tool ate after after marriage date.'
She had no children and it is marked as such.  Her parents married seven years
before her birth.  So to whom is the potential problem referring?  If you are
looking for a preceding sibling, shouldn't the parents have the red exclamation
symbol not their child; the child was not involved with the birth of any prior
child?
>
> Howland Davis




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Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage

2015-02-11 Thread Brian/Support
It is referring to her and the fact that, I assume she was the first
born child, she was born too many years after the marriage of her parents.

Brian
Customer Support
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On 11/02/2015 5:28 PM, Howlanddavisii wrote:
>
>  I am using Legacy 8, download 8.0.0.454 (I know, I should update).
>  I have a grand aunt who has a red exclamation symbol.  When I click for 
> the details, it says 'Birth of first child tool ate after after marriage 
> date.'  She had no children and it is marked as such.  Her parents married 
> seven years before her birth.  So to whom is the potential problem referring? 
>  If you are looking for a preceding sibling, shouldn't the parents have the 
> red exclamation symbol not their child; the child was not involved with the 
> birth of any prior child?
>
> Howland Davis




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[LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage

2015-02-11 Thread Howlanddavisii

I am using Legacy 8, download 8.0.0.454 (I know, I should update).
I have a grand aunt who has a red exclamation symbol.  When I click for the 
details, it says 'Birth of first child tool ate after after marriage date.'  
She had no children and it is marked as such.  Her parents married seven years 
before her birth.  So to whom is the potential problem referring?  If you are 
looking for a preceding sibling, shouldn't the parents have the red exclamation 
symbol not their child; the child was not involved with the birth of any prior 
child?

Howland Davis






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