Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 7:08 AM From: Howlanddavisii To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage To all who wrote: Thanks for your comments. But I understand why there is a potential problem and I understand, and have, excluded problems where I have checked. My concern, and comment. is why my grand aunt has the symbol but her parents do not when, if you would look for an additional child, my grand aunt's name would not be involved. Her parents' names would be; to me, that is what one would be looking for. You are looking for the birth of a child by the parents, not by a subsequent son/daughter. Howland Davis P.S. Nan, my given name is Howland, not Howard , no problem. For three years, when I worked for Goodyear Tire, the company computer system changed Howland to Holland because I, obviously, did not know what I was typing. I finally found the right IT individual who changed the system so it would just underline Howland in red but not change it. And motels frequently take my reservation and then put it under Howland so that I am told that they have no reservation for Davis. -Original Message- From: Nan Bailey To: legacyusergroup Sent: Thu, Feb 12, 2015 4:34 am Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage Howard, the red exclamation mark shows what Legacy sees as a "possible" error and one that says "birth date too late after marriage" just indicates that in usual circumstances, there would be births between the marriage date and that childs birth date. Mostly the first birth occurs within the first 2 - 3 years, so with the large gap, there is a strong possibility that there are births you haven't found or still births that may not even be recorded. It isn't saying your Great Aunt is the problem, just that before her birth there could be births you have missed. I found this out as I also had this message and I also know there are definitely no births beforehand in mine like you. There is a way to turn off this exclamation mark for just this one incident I think. Someone with a better knowledge of how Legacy 8 works will tell you. Nan Bailey Aus Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
On 12/02/2015 14:08, Howlanddavisii wrote: > My concern, and comment. is why my grand aunt has the symbol but her parents > do not when, if you would look for an additional child, my grand aunt's name > would not be involved. Her parents' names would be; to me, that is what one > would be looking for. You are looking for the birth of a child by the > parents, not by a subsequent son/daughter. I understand you. I believe what the system is highlighting is that it thinks you may have entered the year incorrectly (birth given as 1923 when the marriage was in 1913). That's why it highlights the child rather than the parents although I can see a case for highlighting the parents too as you might have entered their marriage date incorrectly (given as 1813 when it should have been 1913). Maybe a suggestion that parents and child both be highlighted where there's an apparent mismatch of dates? Best mismatch I had was a death /before/ the birth registration and the dates were correct. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
On 12/02/2015 11:32, Cathy Pinner wrote: > The right click brings up the section on the Individual Form where you > can exclude the problem manually. (Not sure why you would since the > button will find the right criteria and do it for you.) Some people prefer to do things manually :) Can't say I wholly blame them :) I'm pretty sure I did as you said in your first para. I think it's good there is such an obvious highlight of a potential problem. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
To all who wrote: Thanks for your comments. But I understand why there is a potential problem and I understand, and have, excluded problems where I have checked. My concern, and comment. is why my grand aunt has the symbol but her parents do not when, if you would look for an additional child, my grand aunt's name would not be involved. Her parents' names would be; to me, that is what one would be looking for. You are looking for the birth of a child by the parents, not by a subsequent son/daughter. Howland Davis P.S. Nan, my given name is Howland, not Howard , no problem. For three years, when I worked for Goodyear Tire, the company computer system changed Howland to Holland because I, obviously, did not know what I was typing. I finally found the right IT individual who changed the system so it would just underline Howland in red but not change it. And motels frequently take my reservation and then put it under Howland so that I am told that they have no reservation for Davis. -Original Message- From: Nan Bailey To: legacyusergroup Sent: Thu, Feb 12, 2015 4:34 am Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage Howard, the red exclamation mark shows what Legacy sees as a "possible" error and one that says "birth date too late after marriage" just indicates that in usual circumstances, there would be births between the marriage date and that childs birth date. Mostly the first birth occurs within the first 2 - 3 years, so with the large gap, there is a strong possibility that there are births you haven't found or still births that may not even be recorded. It isn't saying your Great Aunt is the problem, just that before her birth there could be births you have missed. I found this out as I also had this message and I also know there are definitely no births beforehand in mine like you. There is a way to turn off this exclamation mark for just this one incident I think. Someone with a better knowledge of how Legacy 8 works will tell you. Nan Bailey Aus Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
If you check out a potential problem and decide it isn't a problem, click on the red exclamation mark and choose the Mark as not a Problem button. It's really very quick and easy. If you hover over it, it will show what your options are. The click to view details has a button to Mark as not a Problem after you've reviewed the data. If there isn't enough data there it has buttons to get to other data. The right click brings up the section on the Individual Form where you can exclude the problem manually. (Not sure why you would since the button will find the right criteria and do it for you.) The shift plus right click brings up the dialogue where you can change the criteria of what is considered a problem. Easy Cathy Charani wrote: > > On 12/02/2015 09:32, Nan Bailey wrote: >> >> There is a way to turn off this exclamation mark for just this one >> incident >> I think. Someone with a better knowledge of how Legacy 8 works will tell >> you. > > > I had someone flagged as a "possible problem". I think all I did was > mark it as "exclude from problems". > > My mother was flagged as a "possible problem" because of the length of > time she was born after my grandmother married. Unless there were > some miscarriages/still births I don't know about, my problem mother > was the only child. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
On 12/02/2015 09:32, Nan Bailey wrote: > There is a way to turn off this exclamation mark for just this one incident > I think. Someone with a better knowledge of how Legacy 8 works will tell > you. I had someone flagged as a "possible problem". I think all I did was mark it as "exclude from problems". My mother was flagged as a "possible problem" because of the length of time she was born after my grandmother married. Unless there were some miscarriages/still births I don't know about, my problem mother was the only child. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
Howard, the red exclamation mark shows what Legacy sees as a "possible" error and one that says "birth date too late after marriage" just indicates that in usual circumstances, there would be births between the marriage date and that childs birth date. Mostly the first birth occurs within the first 2 - 3 years, so with the large gap, there is a strong possibility that there are births you haven't found or still births that may not even be recorded. It isn't saying your Great Aunt is the problem, just that before her birth there could be births you have missed. I found this out as I also had this message and I also know there are definitely no births beforehand in mine like you. There is a way to turn off this exclamation mark for just this one incident I think. Someone with a better knowledge of how Legacy 8 works will tell you. Nan Bailey Aus On 12 February 2015 at 12:13, Brian/Support wrote: > Well it is her birth date that indicates there may be a problem. That is > why the symbol is on her. > > Brian > Customer Support > Millennia Corporation > br...@legacyfamilytree.com > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > On 11/02/2015 7:22 PM, Howlanddavisii wrote: > > > > Brian: > > > > OK, that may be Legacy's definition but why is it a potential > problem for her and not for her parents? Her parents were the couple who > could have a missing child. My grand aunt had nothing to do with the > process. Is this an error in who has the red exclamation symbol attached > to them? > > > > Howland Davis > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Brian/Support > > To: legacyusergroup > > Sent: Wed, Feb 11, 2015 7:09 pm > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage > > > > > > It is referring to her and the fact that, I assume she was the first > > born child, she was born too many years after the marriage of her > parents. > > > > Brian > > Customer Support > > Millennia Corporation > > br...@legacyfamilytree.com > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > > > On 11/02/2015 5:28 PM, Howlanddavisii wrote: > >> > >> I am using Legacy 8, download 8.0.0.454 (I know, I should update). > >> I have a grand aunt who has a red exclamation symbol. When I > click for > > the details, it says 'Birth of first child tool ate after after marriage > date.' > > She had no children and it is marked as such. Her parents married seven > years > > before her birth. So to whom is the potential problem referring? If > you are > > looking for a preceding sibling, shouldn't the parents have the red > exclamation > > symbol not their child; the child was not involved with the birth of any > prior > > child? > >> > >> Howland Davis > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > > > Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com > > > > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) > and on our > > blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > > > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > > > Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com > > > > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) > and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > > > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online tec
Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
Well it is her birth date that indicates there may be a problem. That is why the symbol is on her. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 11/02/2015 7:22 PM, Howlanddavisii wrote: > > Brian: > > OK, that may be Legacy's definition but why is it a potential problem > for her and not for her parents? Her parents were the couple who could have > a missing child. My grand aunt had nothing to do with the process. Is this > an error in who has the red exclamation symbol attached to them? > > Howland Davis > > -Original Message- > From: Brian/Support > To: legacyusergroup > Sent: Wed, Feb 11, 2015 7:09 pm > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage > > > It is referring to her and the fact that, I assume she was the first > born child, she was born too many years after the marriage of her parents. > > Brian > Customer Support > Millennia Corporation > br...@legacyfamilytree.com > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > On 11/02/2015 5:28 PM, Howlanddavisii wrote: >> >> I am using Legacy 8, download 8.0.0.454 (I know, I should update). >> I have a grand aunt who has a red exclamation symbol. When I click for > the details, it says 'Birth of first child tool ate after after marriage > date.' > She had no children and it is marked as such. Her parents married seven years > before her birth. So to whom is the potential problem referring? If you are > looking for a preceding sibling, shouldn't the parents have the red > exclamation > symbol not their child; the child was not involved with the birth of any prior > child? >> >> Howland Davis > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com > > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our > blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com > > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
Brian: OK, that may be Legacy's definition but why is it a potential problem for her and not for her parents? Her parents were the couple who could have a missing child. My grand aunt had nothing to do with the process. Is this an error in who has the red exclamation symbol attached to them? Howland Davis -Original Message- From: Brian/Support To: legacyusergroup Sent: Wed, Feb 11, 2015 7:09 pm Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage It is referring to her and the fact that, I assume she was the first born child, she was born too many years after the marriage of her parents. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 11/02/2015 5:28 PM, Howlanddavisii wrote: > > I am using Legacy 8, download 8.0.0.454 (I know, I should update). > I have a grand aunt who has a red exclamation symbol. When I click for the details, it says 'Birth of first child tool ate after after marriage date.' She had no children and it is marked as such. Her parents married seven years before her birth. So to whom is the potential problem referring? If you are looking for a preceding sibling, shouldn't the parents have the red exclamation symbol not their child; the child was not involved with the birth of any prior child? > > Howland Davis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
It is referring to her and the fact that, I assume she was the first born child, she was born too many years after the marriage of her parents. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 11/02/2015 5:28 PM, Howlanddavisii wrote: > > I am using Legacy 8, download 8.0.0.454 (I know, I should update). > I have a grand aunt who has a red exclamation symbol. When I click for > the details, it says 'Birth of first child tool ate after after marriage > date.' She had no children and it is marked as such. Her parents married > seven years before her birth. So to whom is the potential problem referring? > If you are looking for a preceding sibling, shouldn't the parents have the > red exclamation symbol not their child; the child was not involved with the > birth of any prior child? > > Howland Davis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] First Birth After Marriage
I am using Legacy 8, download 8.0.0.454 (I know, I should update). I have a grand aunt who has a red exclamation symbol. When I click for the details, it says 'Birth of first child tool ate after after marriage date.' She had no children and it is marked as such. Her parents married seven years before her birth. So to whom is the potential problem referring? If you are looking for a preceding sibling, shouldn't the parents have the red exclamation symbol not their child; the child was not involved with the birth of any prior child? Howland Davis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp