Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
Jerry, I have not really been following this thread, and to be honest I am not sure whether Search and Replace and Find work in the same way or not. But, you questions leads me to ask whether you are considering the the numbers which appear during Search and Replace as RINs or MRINs, if so, as far as I can see, they are not, only the number of records tested so far. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 5:30 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ?? Are FIND and SEARCH and REPLACE supposed to work in exactly the same way in their search routines? It's a bit confusing - wonder what the purpose was for two distinct modules unless the programmers thought people would accidentally replace something they did not intend to do, but it's not automatic without giving the command anyway. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
Hi Jerry Can you find an individual that has an invisible date, tag that person, and then export a gedcom of all the tagged persons data? If so you might see the date in the gedcom. Cheers, Brett B McL Robinson, Hamilton, New Zealand On 12/09/2011 4:30 p.m., Jerry wrote: UPDATE: The dates that are VISIBLE, but without any accompanying event information, are MARRIAGE EVENTS. When I searched for EVENT DATE by itself, I also got nothing for year 2010, but when I searched for MARRIAGE EVENT DATES, that's when I get the hits for the VISIBLE dates. But I have to use SEARCH and REPLACE and just search for EVENT DATES to get the dates which are NOT VISIBLE when I go to the records. The regular FIND does not bring up the same information. Are FIND and SEARCH and REPLACE supposed to work in exactly the same way in their search routines? It's a bit confusing - wonder what the purpose was for two distinct modules unless the programmers thought people would accidentally replace something they did not intend to do, but it's not automatic without giving the command anyway. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/11/2011 9:55 PM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote: That is very strange. I tried doing a search for any event dates after 2010 and I got no hits. There is an option in the searches to search for modified date. If you had chosen that by accident you could easily get a ton of people with 2010-2011 dates but they wouldn't be attached to an event. I wonder if when you imported the GEDCOM something strange happened. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:34 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ?? Hi there. Where would those dates show up, Michele? In my situation, the dates in question are INVISIBLE - I can't see them anywhere, but I can SEARCH for date contains 2010 (for example) and the records show up in my search criteria. But going to the records does not show these dates anywhere. Very weird. Another facet to this problem (and why I started to do these searches) is that there are some dates that do show up, such as 27 August 2010, etc., but they are attached to EVENTS that are completely blank. So, I simply delete them, but I'm not sure how I can globally delete them because there is no event name. Everything is blank except the dates. I do not have the luxury of starting anything over from my cousin's gedcom, etc., because I've already done major work on this file and it does not appear to be corrupt and the file I'm working on is well over 10,000 individuals. The information is good, other than this weird dating thing that I cannot explain. Has anyone ever experienced anything that resembles this at all? Thanks, Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
I have 7810 persons in my database. They are all linked to me in 1 tree. michele -Original Message- From: Tim Rosenlof Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:44 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ?? Michele, Just curious, how many ancestors/descendants are in your database ? Tim Rosenlof On 9/11/2011 7:55 PM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote: That is very strange. I tried doing a search for any event dates after 2010 and I got no hits. There is an option in the searches to search for modified date. If you had chosen that by accident you could easily get a ton of people with 2010-2011 dates but they wouldn't be attached to an event. I wonder if when you imported the GEDCOM something strange happened. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:34 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ?? Hi there. Where would those dates show up, Michele? In my situation, the dates in question are INVISIBLE - I can't see them anywhere, but I can SEARCH for date contains 2010 (for example) and the records show up in my search criteria. But going to the records does not show these dates anywhere. Very weird. Another facet to this problem (and why I started to do these searches) is that there are some dates that do show up, such as 27 August 2010, etc., but they are attached to EVENTS that are completely blank. So, I simply delete them, but I'm not sure how I can globally delete them because there is no event name. Everything is blank except the dates. I do not have the luxury of starting anything over from my cousin's gedcom, etc., because I've already done major work on this file and it does not appear to be corrupt and the file I'm working on is well over 10,000 individuals. The information is good, other than this weird dating thing that I cannot explain. Has anyone ever experienced anything that resembles this at all? Thanks, Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3892 - Release Date: 09/12/11 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:27:38 -0400, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone. Has anyone on the list ever seen where Legacy would embed invisible dates that show up when you do a SEARCH and REPLACE, but when you go to the record, the dates are simply not there. I'm sure it has something to do with the gedcom import I got from my cousin to combine with our master tree. I thought maybe it was the date modified or date imported, but that is not it. What I'm doing is to put in the search function to SEARCH and REPLACE (without actually doing the replace) for EVENT-DATES where the date contains 2010 anywhere in the field. I get quite a large number of hits such as 8 September 2010, but none of the records has those dates in the record anywhere I can physically see. Weird thing I would like to get to the bottom of. Thanks, if you can help. Jerry sent me his database off list. I looked at the example of a Search Replace that he sent. It found a date of 26 August 2010. There WAS a marriage event for that individual with that date. So the date is NOT invisible. I can see it in Legacy. So this is not a problem. Jerry just forgot to look at marriage events. As to Jerry's 2nd problem... Another facet to this problem (and why I started to do these searches) is that there are some dates that do show up, such as 27 August 2010, etc., but they are attached to EVENTS that are completely blank. So, I simply delete them, but I'm not sure how I can globally delete them because there is no event name. Everything is blank except the dates. He has a bunch of marriage events that are pointing at IDET=1. IDET=1 is a reserved record. There should be no rows in tblER that point to IDET=1. I looked at the GEDCOM that he imported his data from. It was FTM as I recall. I loaded this GEDCOM into Legacy 7.5 and went to one of the couples that had the bad marriage event (IDET=1). It imported fine and the marriage event was assigned IDET=59, which was the event type of Record Change. Jerry's file with the bad event did not have a event type for Record Change. The only way I could cause this to happen in Legacy is to go to View|Master Lists|Event Definition and combine the Record Change event type with the blank event type at the top of the list. The fact that Legacy lets you do this could be considered a bug and should be reported. I know what Jerry's next question will be ... but I'll wait until he asks it. :-) -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:12:11 -0400, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: The other thing, however, which might be related - I believe you are mistaken on, Dennis. There are indeed dates that come up when a FIND Event-Dates is entered for after 2009, for example, and when I go to the record, these dates are not there. If you look at that screen shot that this list will not allow me to send, I documented that fact. The screen shot you sent me was searching for a marriage event date aft 2009. It looks like it returned a list of 149 individuals. From this screen select Abner WHEELER. Click on the Marriage Information bar. This brings up the Marriage Information screen WITH one marriage event with a blank event type and a date of 26 Aug 2010. Why am I wrong? *** Now do you want to know how to delete all the event records without event types in 10 seconds? -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:34:23 -0400, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: This brings up the Marriage Information screen WITH one marriage event with a blank event type and a date of 26 Aug 2010. See 20110912214228.jpg placed in your dropbox folder. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
Oh, of course, I'd love to be able to delete all these extraneous event records. That's why I posted about this several weeks ago, but at that time I got no helpers. Thanks! Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/12/2011 9:34 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:12:11 -0400, Jerryjerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: The other thing, however, which might be related - I believe you are mistaken on, Dennis. There are indeed dates that come up when a FIND Event-Dates is entered for after 2009, for example, and when I go to the record, these dates are not there. If you look at that screen shot that this list will not allow me to send, I documented that fact. The screen shot you sent me was searching for a marriage event date aft 2009. It looks like it returned a list of 149 individuals. From this screen select Abner WHEELER. Click on the Marriage Information bar. This brings up the Marriage Information screen WITH one marriage event with a blank event type and a date of 26 Aug 2010. Why am I wrong? *** Now do you want to know how to delete all the event records without event types in 10 seconds? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
Sorry, I was going by memory, but you are looking at the wrong screen shot. I sent two different scenarios - the one is simply a FIND for marriage event which shows the dates - the other is a SEARCH and REPLACE for EVENT DATES of any kind which does not show the dates. The first one in that SEARCH and REPLACE for EVENT DATES brings up an Althea Smith, # 3709. In that record, do you see the original date it said should have been there 26 August 2010? I can't find that date anywhere in that record, plus I've checked many others that have the same problem. But it would seem the two problems might be related. When I blanked out the RECORD CHANGE, the system did not completely blank out the dates and some are simply there, but invisible for some strange reason? Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/12/2011 9:34 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:12:11 -0400, Jerryjerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: The other thing, however, which might be related - I believe you are mistaken on, Dennis. There are indeed dates that come up when a FIND Event-Dates is entered for after 2009, for example, and when I go to the record, these dates are not there. If you look at that screen shot that this list will not allow me to send, I documented that fact. The screen shot you sent me was searching for a marriage event date aft 2009. It looks like it returned a list of 149 individuals. From this screen select Abner WHEELER. Click on the Marriage Information bar. This brings up the Marriage Information screen WITH one marriage event with a blank event type and a date of 26 Aug 2010. Why am I wrong? *** Now do you want to know how to delete all the event records without event types in 10 seconds? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:55:52 -0400, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: In that record, do you see the original date it said should have been there 26 August 2010? I can't find that date anywhere in that record, plus I've checked many others that have the same problem. The simple answer is that there is a bug on that Search Replace window (feel free to report it). It says it found an event with a date of 26 August 2010 on RIN 3709 (Althea Smith). But it actually found an event with a date of 26 August 2010 on MRIN 3709 (marriage of Abner Wheeler to Elizabeth Hunt). -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:57:53 -0400, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, of course, I'd love to be able to delete all these extraneous event records. That's why I posted about this several weeks ago, but at that time I got no helpers. I went back and looked but couldn't spot your original request. Maybe it wasn't plain text. ;-) Make a backup of your database. Then run this query... DELETE * FROM tblER WHERE tblER.IDET=1 It should delete about 607 rows. If any of these events have sources or pictures assigned to them it might leave them dangling. Don't know if Check/Repair will clean these up. There is a way to make sure these danglers won't occur but it is a little more complicated. It involves adding back the Record Changed event type (and tag it after untagging all others), getting its IDET (say it's 60), then updating all the IDET=1 to IDET=60. Finally you use LTools Delete Master Events to remove the Record Changed event and anything else that is pointing to it. Good luck! -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
Well, I do know that Legacy will put in approx dates when you are using the research guidance feature. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:27 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ?? Hello everyone. Has anyone on the list ever seen where Legacy would embed invisible dates that show up when you do a SEARCH and REPLACE, but when you go to the record, the dates are simply not there. I'm sure it has something to do with the gedcom import I got from my cousin to combine with our master tree. I thought maybe it was the date modified or date imported, but that is not it. What I'm doing is to put in the search function to SEARCH and REPLACE (without actually doing the replace) for EVENT-DATES where the date contains 2010 anywhere in the field. I get quite a large number of hits such as 8 September 2010, but none of the records has those dates in the record anywhere I can physically see. Weird thing I would like to get to the bottom of. Thanks, if you can help. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3889 - Release Date: 09/10/11 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
Hi there. Where would those dates show up, Michele? In my situation, the dates in question are INVISIBLE - I can't see them anywhere, but I can SEARCH for date contains 2010 (for example) and the records show up in my search criteria. But going to the records does not show these dates anywhere. Very weird. Another facet to this problem (and why I started to do these searches) is that there are some dates that do show up, such as 27 August 2010, etc., but they are attached to EVENTS that are completely blank. So, I simply delete them, but I'm not sure how I can globally delete them because there is no event name. Everything is blank except the dates. I do not have the luxury of starting anything over from my cousin's gedcom, etc., because I've already done major work on this file and it does not appear to be corrupt and the file I'm working on is well over 10,000 individuals. The information is good, other than this weird dating thing that I cannot explain. Has anyone ever experienced anything that resembles this at all? Thanks, Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/11/2011 8:07 AM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote: Well, I do know that Legacy will put in approx dates when you are using the research guidance feature. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:27 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ?? Hello everyone. Has anyone on the list ever seen where Legacy would embed invisible dates that show up when you do a SEARCH and REPLACE, but when you go to the record, the dates are simply not there. I'm sure it has something to do with the gedcom import I got from my cousin to combine with our master tree. I thought maybe it was the date modified or date imported, but that is not it. What I'm doing is to put in the search function to SEARCH and REPLACE (without actually doing the replace) for EVENT-DATES where the date contains 2010 anywhere in the field. I get quite a large number of hits such as 8 September 2010, but none of the records has those dates in the record anywhere I can physically see. Weird thing I would like to get to the bottom of. Thanks, if you can help. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
It's not the date modified - I already checked that out. The dates that show up without events attached are marriage events (without any event name or description), but I can't tell what the ones are that appear in the search routines because when you go to the records that come up, those dates are simply INVISIBLE. Weird, weird, weird. Maybe I should try opening up MS Access and see if I can go deeper into it ? But I didn't see anything in ITools that might help unless there is something in the raw SQL stuff that Dennis helped me with a few weeks ago. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/11/2011 9:55 PM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote: That is very strange. I tried doing a search for any event dates after 2010 and I got no hits. There is an option in the searches to search for modified date. If you had chosen that by accident you could easily get a ton of people with 2010-2011 dates but they wouldn't be attached to an event. I wonder if when you imported the GEDCOM something strange happened. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:34 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ?? Hi there. Where would those dates show up, Michele? In my situation, the dates in question are INVISIBLE - I can't see them anywhere, but I can SEARCH for date contains 2010 (for example) and the records show up in my search criteria. But going to the records does not show these dates anywhere. Very weird. Another facet to this problem (and why I started to do these searches) is that there are some dates that do show up, such as 27 August 2010, etc., but they are attached to EVENTS that are completely blank. So, I simply delete them, but I'm not sure how I can globally delete them because there is no event name. Everything is blank except the dates. I do not have the luxury of starting anything over from my cousin's gedcom, etc., because I've already done major work on this file and it does not appear to be corrupt and the file I'm working on is well over 10,000 individuals. The information is good, other than this weird dating thing that I cannot explain. Has anyone ever experienced anything that resembles this at all? Thanks, Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
UPDATE: The dates that are VISIBLE, but without any accompanying event information, are MARRIAGE EVENTS. When I searched for EVENT DATE by itself, I also got nothing for year 2010, but when I searched for MARRIAGE EVENT DATES, that's when I get the hits for the VISIBLE dates. But I have to use SEARCH and REPLACE and just search for EVENT DATES to get the dates which are NOT VISIBLE when I go to the records. The regular FIND does not bring up the same information. Are FIND and SEARCH and REPLACE supposed to work in exactly the same way in their search routines? It's a bit confusing - wonder what the purpose was for two distinct modules unless the programmers thought people would accidentally replace something they did not intend to do, but it's not automatic without giving the command anyway. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/11/2011 9:55 PM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote: That is very strange. I tried doing a search for any event dates after 2010 and I got no hits. There is an option in the searches to search for modified date. If you had chosen that by accident you could easily get a ton of people with 2010-2011 dates but they wouldn't be attached to an event. I wonder if when you imported the GEDCOM something strange happened. michele -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:34 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ?? Hi there. Where would those dates show up, Michele? In my situation, the dates in question are INVISIBLE - I can't see them anywhere, but I can SEARCH for date contains 2010 (for example) and the records show up in my search criteria. But going to the records does not show these dates anywhere. Very weird. Another facet to this problem (and why I started to do these searches) is that there are some dates that do show up, such as 27 August 2010, etc., but they are attached to EVENTS that are completely blank. So, I simply delete them, but I'm not sure how I can globally delete them because there is no event name. Everything is blank except the dates. I do not have the luxury of starting anything over from my cousin's gedcom, etc., because I've already done major work on this file and it does not appear to be corrupt and the file I'm working on is well over 10,000 individuals. The information is good, other than this weird dating thing that I cannot explain. Has anyone ever experienced anything that resembles this at all? Thanks, Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
Hello everyone. Has anyone on the list ever seen where Legacy would embed invisible dates that show up when you do a SEARCH and REPLACE, but when you go to the record, the dates are simply not there. I'm sure it has something to do with the gedcom import I got from my cousin to combine with our master tree. I thought maybe it was the date modified or date imported, but that is not it. What I'm doing is to put in the search function to SEARCH and REPLACE (without actually doing the replace) for EVENT-DATES where the date contains 2010 anywhere in the field. I get quite a large number of hits such as 8 September 2010, but none of the records has those dates in the record anywhere I can physically see. Weird thing I would like to get to the bottom of. Thanks, if you can help. -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
could these be the date that the person was last modified? Look at the very bottom of the Legacy window to the right corner and see if you date corresponds with that date. If you hover your mouse over the date, it will ask you to click to see the modification dates. On 9/10/2011 12:27 PM, Jerry wrote: Hello everyone. Has anyone on the list ever seen where Legacy would embed invisible dates that show up when you do a SEARCH and REPLACE, but when you go to the record, the dates are simply not there. I'm sure it has something to do with the gedcom import I got from my cousin to combine with our master tree. I thought maybe it was the date modified or date imported, but that is not it. What I'm doing is to put in the search function to SEARCH and REPLACE (without actually doing the replace) for EVENT-DATES where the date contains 2010 anywhere in the field. I get quite a large number of hits such as 8 September 2010, but none of the records has those dates in the record anywhere I can physically see. Weird thing I would like to get to the bottom of. Thanks, if you can help. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Invisible Embedded Dates ??
No, it does not appear to be the modification date, Laura. I already checked that out and those dates do not correspond in any way. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 9/10/2011 3:10 PM, Laura Johnson wrote: could these be the date that the person was last modified? Look at the very bottom of the Legacy window to the right corner and see if you date corresponds with that date. If you hover your mouse over the date, it will ask you to click to see the modification dates. On 9/10/2011 12:27 PM, Jerry wrote: Hello everyone. Has anyone on the list ever seen where Legacy would embed invisible dates that show up when you do a SEARCH and REPLACE, but when you go to the record, the dates are simply not there. I'm sure it has something to do with the gedcom import I got from my cousin to combine with our master tree. I thought maybe it was the date modified or date imported, but that is not it. What I'm doing is to put in the search function to SEARCH and REPLACE (without actually doing the replace) for EVENT-DATES where the date contains 2010 anywhere in the field. I get quite a large number of hits such as 8 September 2010, but none of the records has those dates in the record anywhere I can physically see. Weird thing I would like to get to the bottom of. Thanks, if you can help. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
