Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Wes]

On 06-Dec-2012 1:50 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
> So are you actually using the letters "CCI" or another name (followed
> by YYMMDD)?
>
> Pat

Only for the original scan entry.  YY is actually .  They are all in
date order.

Once I create the named TIFF file, I could remove that origianl file.
However, once bitten twice shy as they say.

Wes



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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Mike Fry]

> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Mike Fry  > wrote:
>
> On 2012/12/06 05:12, Pat Hickin wrote:
> > Well, of course -- I was reading it as an "MO" rather than an "M0." * 
> :-(*
> > Whatever happened to those slash marks they ysed to put in zeroes?
>
> Change _your_ font that you use to read emails with :-)

On 2012/12/06 18:32, Pat Hickin wrote:

> Ye gods, I haven't the faintest idea how to do that! *:-(*

It all depends on what you're using to read your mail. Judging by your email
address, do we assume that you use a browser and logon to Gmail?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Wes]

On 06-Dec-2012 11:24 AM, Pat Hickin wrote:
> What does CCI stand for, Wes?
>
> Pat
> 
My Brother scanner uses something called Control Center for scan
controls.  My guess is CCI is Control Center Input or something similar.

Wes




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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Pat Hickin]

What does CCI stand for, Wes?

Pat

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Wes  wrote:

> On 05-Dec-2012 4:23 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
> >
> > Just curious because you don’t mention it, but at what resolution are
> > your original scans? Many of the default settings for image scanning
> > software is lower than 300 dpi, so if you are trying to upscale the
> > lower resolution original, be advised that you cannot make a cow out
> > of hamburger.
> >
> > Brian in CA
> >
> > 
> I scan all photos as 600 dpi into TIFF format.  I use Geoff's
> suggestions for working with photos.  The original scan is something
> like CCIYrMonDay.TIFF  I open this in my editing software, Photoshop
> Elements, and immediately save it as Name.TIFF.  I then immediately save
> it again as Name-Edited.TIFF.  It is this copy that I manipulate.  So,
> in essence, I have 2 originals.  Probably a bit over paranoid, but I
> have lost some before so I also keep 2 backups.; one for the original
> scan, CCI---, and one for the Name.TIFF.
>
> Once I have done editing, I create a 300 DPI JPG in the same directory.
> This is then copied to Legacy. Most of the TIFF originals run around 11
> MB; most of the JPG's run around 350 kb.
>
> For documents, I always use 300 DPI.  Normally, I scan then directly to
> PDF.  I some instances, I will scan to a TIFF and re-save as a PDF.
>
> Wes
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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Wes]

On 05-Dec-2012 4:23 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
>
> Just curious because you don’t mention it, but at what resolution are
> your original scans? Many of the default settings for image scanning
> software is lower than 300 dpi, so if you are trying to upscale the
> lower resolution original, be advised that you cannot make a cow out
> of hamburger.
>
> Brian in CA
>
> 
I scan all photos as 600 dpi into TIFF format.  I use Geoff's
suggestions for working with photos.  The original scan is something
like CCIYrMonDay.TIFF  I open this in my editing software, Photoshop
Elements, and immediately save it as Name.TIFF.  I then immediately save
it again as Name-Edited.TIFF.  It is this copy that I manipulate.  So,
in essence, I have 2 originals.  Probably a bit over paranoid, but I
have lost some before so I also keep 2 backups.; one for the original
scan, CCI---, and one for the Name.TIFF.

Once I have done editing, I create a 300 DPI JPG in the same directory.
This is then copied to Legacy. Most of the TIFF originals run around 11
MB; most of the JPG's run around 350 kb.

For documents, I always use 300 DPI.  Normally, I scan then directly to
PDF.  I some instances, I will scan to a TIFF and re-save as a PDF.

Wes






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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Mike Fry]

On 2012/12/06 05:12, Pat Hickin wrote:
> Well, of course -- I was reading it as an "MO" rather than an "M0." * :-(*
> Whatever happened to those slash marks they ysed to put in zeroes?

Change _your_ font that you use to read emails with :-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Pat Hickin]

Well, of course -- I was reading it as an "MO" rather than an "M0." * :-(*
Whatever happened to those slash marks they ysed to put in zeroes?

Thanks, Brian!

Pat


On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Brian/Support wrote:

> See para 2 of his email. It is the MRIN, Marriage Record Identification
> Number, the marriage equivalent of the RIN for people.
>
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> On 05/12/2012 17:59, Pat Hickin wrote:
> > Thanks, Tony, that's helpful!  But tell me, what does the "M0123"
> > in "M0123 Joseph Smith and Mary Ann Brown" stand for?
> >
> > Pat
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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Brian/Support]

See para 2 of his email. It is the MRIN, Marriage Record Identification
Number, the marriage equivalent of the RIN for people.

Brian
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> Thanks, Tony, that's helpful!  But tell me, what does the "M0123"
> in "M0123 Joseph Smith and Mary Ann Brown" stand for?
>
> Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Pat Hickin]

Thanks, Tony, that's helpful!  But tell me, what does the "M0123"
in "M0123 Joseph Smith and Mary Ann Brown" stand for?

Pat



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[LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Tony Rolfe]

I organise scans, downloaded images, PDF documents etc. according to the
following scheme:

1.  I have a D:\Genealogy directory for all my genealogy stuff, except
that which has to go in C:\Legacy.  This contains, among others, \Data,
\Marriages and \Places sub-folders

2.  Anything which relates to a family or an individual is in a folder
below \Marriages and is named M hisname and hername where  is
the MRIN, so I might have

M0123 Joseph Smith and Mary Ann Brown

which contains all documentation relating to this family group,
including unmarried children's details.  Any file which relates to the
marriage has (M0123) in the name, e.g. 1861 Census (M0123) and anything
which relates to one individual has the RIN in the file name.  E.g.  a
child's baptism certificate might be

Baptism Certificate - William (I00562).

If the husband is away from home on census night, his image would have
both the MRIN and the RIN in the file name

1861 Census (M0123) - Joseph (I00034)

When the marriage of a child is discovered, I cut and paste their files
into their own Marriage folder.

If, for example, two sisters are servants in a household and appear on
the same census image, I give them each their own copy of the image,
which follows them to their future marriages.

There are numerous variations on this, but I've never found a situation
which is impossible to handle.

3.  Anything which relates to a place goes below the Places folder in a
layered structure.  So a photo of St. Mary's church in Chelmsford,
Essex, England would be in a folder

D:\Places\England\Essex\Chelmsford

4.  Anything which relates to the family tree as a whole or to large
chunks of the tree (someone's PDF file of a branch of the family
covering 6 generations) goes in the Data folder.



This scheme works well.  I can instantly find any file, knowing the MRIN
and there's no possibility of duplicate file names.

Cheers

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RE: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Ron Ferguson]

Pat,

I basically agree with Brian. The disadvantage with a jpg is that if it is 
repeatedly saved, for example after editing, it will loose quality, whereas a 
tiff will not.
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"Brian L. Lightfoot"  wrote:

>Then you are doing it correctly, namely scan at the highest possible 
>resolution (for genealogical photos). Geoff and I disagree about the use of 
>TIFFS but that’s not real important, more of a technical issue that we needn’t 
>get into. More of a matter of personal choice I guess.
>
>
>
>The only thing that I don’t like about your concept of using dual folders for 
>storing images is that now you have to remember to backup both folders. And I 
>hope you (and everyone else) is creating a backup that is stored outside of 
>your own computer (DVD, another computer, external hard drive, cloud storage, 
>etc.)
>
>
>
>
>
>Brian in CA
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:42 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans
>
>
>
>If I'm doing the scanning, I ordinarily do them t the highest resolution 
>possible, which  is 1200 dpi.  I've ordinarily done them as .jpgs, tho I guess 
>I should be doing them as tiffs.
>
>
>
>Pat
>
>On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot  
>wrote:
>
>Just curious because you don’t mention it, but at what resolution are your 
>original scans? Many of the default settings for image scanning software is 
>lower than 300 dpi, so if you are trying to upscale the lower resolution 
>original, be advised that you cannot make a cow out of hamburger.
>
>
>
>Brian in CA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Wes  wrote:
>
>>On 04-Dec-2012 9:08 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
>> Speaking of archival scans and lower dpi scans attached to Legacy
>> leads me to wonder how you organize your files of same.
>>
>> Pat
>>I use 2 directories; one is the normal Legacy Directory, the other is a
>"Genealogy" directory.  In the genealogy directory, I have a Documents
>sub-directory and a Photos sub-directory.   I keep all scans, PDF's,
>TIFF's etc, in that set of directories.  When I have completed my
>editing of scanned photos, I use the editing software to create a 300
>DPI JPG file.  I then copy this file to the Legacy Photo directory.  All
>true documents are scanned as PDF's and stored in that format.
>
>In short, all original files are kept in the genealogy set of
>directories.  The Legacy directories have copies suitable for display on
>web pages.
>
>Wes
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Mike Fry]

On 2012/12/05 23:41, Pat Hickin wrote:

> If I'm doing the scanning, I ordinarily do them t the highest resolution
> possible, which  is 1200 dpi.  I've ordinarily done them as .jpgs, tho I 
> guess I
> should be doing them as tiffs.

Yup! Also, to protect yourself for the future, mark the archival TIFFs as
read-only. You shouldn't need to edit them again except to create PNG or JPG
from them for other purposes.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Pat Hickin]

If I'm doing the scanning, I ordinarily do them t the highest resolution
possible, which  is 1200 dpi.  I've ordinarily done them as .jpgs, tho I
guess I should be doing them as tiffs.

Pat

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot  wrote:

> Just curious because you don’t mention it, but at what resolution are your
> original scans? Many of the default settings for image scanning software is
> lower than 300 dpi, so if you are trying to upscale the lower resolution
> original, be advised that you cannot make a cow out of hamburger.
>
> ** **
>
> Brian in CA
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> >On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Wes  wrote:
>
> >On 04-Dec-2012 9:08 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
> > Speaking of archival scans and lower dpi scans attached to Legacy
> > leads me to wonder how you organize your files of same.
> >
> > Pat
> >I use 2 directories; one is the normal Legacy Directory, the other is a
> "Genealogy" directory.  In the genealogy directory, I have a Documents
> sub-directory and a Photos sub-directory.   I keep all scans, PDF's,
> TIFF's etc, in that set of directories.  When I have completed my
> editing of scanned photos, I use the editing software to create a 300
> DPI JPG file.  I then copy this file to the Legacy Photo directory.  All
> true documents are scanned as PDF's and stored in that format.
>
> In short, all original files are kept in the genealogy set of
> directories.  The Legacy directories have copies suitable for display on
> web pages.
>
> Wes
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Pat Hickin]

Thanks, Wes, That's helpful!!

Pat

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Wes  wrote:

> On 04-Dec-2012 9:08 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
> > Speaking of archival scans and lower dpi scans attached to Legacy
> > leads me to wonder how you organize your files of same.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> I use 2 directories; one is the normal Legacy Directory, the other is a
> "Genealogy" directory.  In the genealogy directory, I have a Documents
> sub-directory and a Photos sub-directory.   I keep all scans, PDF's,
> TIFF's etc, in that set of directories.  When I have completed my
> editing of scanned photos, I use the editing software to create a 300
> DPI JPG file.  I then copy this file to the Legacy Photo directory.  All
> true documents are scanned as PDF's and stored in that format.
>
> In short, all original files are kept in the genealogy set of
> directories.  The Legacy directories have copies suitable for display on
> web pages.
>
> Wes
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Wes]

On 04-Dec-2012 9:08 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
> Speaking of archival scans and lower dpi scans attached to Legacy
> leads me to wonder how you organize your files of same.
>
> Pat
>
I use 2 directories; one is the normal Legacy Directory, the other is a
"Genealogy" directory.  In the genealogy directory, I have a Documents
sub-directory and a Photos sub-directory.   I keep all scans, PDF's,
TIFF's etc, in that set of directories.  When I have completed my
editing of scanned photos, I use the editing software to create a 300
DPI JPG file.  I then copy this file to the Legacy Photo directory.  All
true documents are scanned as PDF's and stored in that format.

In short, all original files are kept in the genealogy set of
directories.  The Legacy directories have copies suitable for display on
web pages.

Wes



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[LegacyUG] Organizing scans

[Pat Hickin]

Speaking of archival scans and lower dpi scans attached to Legacy leads me
to wonder how you organize your files of same.

Pat



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