RE: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-25 Thread Ken
Hi everyone,

Maybe this might be a good subject for a future Webinar.  'How Legacy's To-Do 
list, Research Log and Calendar will help you to keep track of your 
genealogical research'

This would be great follow on to the forthcoming Karen Clifford Webinar 
'Organising for Success'.

Just an idea!

Regards,

Ken



-Original Message-
From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv [mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv]
Sent: Monday, 25 July 2011 3:05 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

Connie,

As part of section 3, Document Work, submit a research plan (one page or
less) describing the first steps for continuing research to resolve the problem 
defined in 3_c. {Standard 5}.  You should

1) base the plan on clues found within the document and on sound research 
methods, standard genealogical sources, and material specific to the area, time 
period, and subject of this records; and

2) identify fully any publications, personnel, repositories, or records 
(original, in print, or electronic) you would normal consult in following that 
plan.


I really would like to use the Legacy research calendar because it really looks 
nice but it is too spread out.  I won't be able to get my 10 sources on one 
page.


Michele



-Original Message-
From: Connie Sheets
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:34 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

The BCG does not require submission of a Research Log as part of the 
certification portfolio.  Perhaps you are thinking of accreditation through 
ICAPGen.

Although it won't look like a traditional research log, I concur with Sherri 
that the To-Do feature is perfect for the purpose of a research log (and more). 
 There are myriad ways to format the reports to make it less big and clunky.

For those who prefer the traditional format, however, try:

http://www.family-passages.com/Tools.html

These are fillable in Excel.

Connie

--- On Sun, 7/24/11, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
 The only problem I have with the
 Legacy Research log is that it is too big and clunky.  I have to make
 a research log for the BCG (Board for the Certification of
 Genealogists) and it can only be one page.  I have to be able to get
 about 10 entries on there.  I have been looking for a research log in
 Microsoft Word format but all I can find are pdfs which I can't type
 in.

 michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-25 Thread cranberryfrog
Great suggestion, Ken!

Is their anyone already using Karen Clifford's method?  I looked at it on
her website and my only question is...  If you are using RINs and MRINs to
file your paper files,  I guess you can never compact your file but
reassigning unused RIN/MRIN numbers?  Also, I have 7800 people in my file
(and my file is small compared to many of yours!).  In Karen's info, she has
her notebooks divided up by 100s.  The  That is great if you have documents
for people in the first 500 RINS but what if I have a document for RIN 6592?
I would have to have dividers for 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, all the way up to
6500 just to file this document.

michele


-Original Message-
From: Ken
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:29 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

Hi everyone,

Maybe this might be a good subject for a future Webinar.  'How Legacy's
To-Do list, Research Log and Calendar will help you to keep track of your
genealogical research'

This would be great follow on to the forthcoming Karen Clifford Webinar
'Organising for Success'.

Just an idea!

Regards,

Ken



-Original Message-
From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv [mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv]
Sent: Monday, 25 July 2011 3:05 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

Connie,

As part of section 3, Document Work, submit a research plan (one page or
less) describing the first steps for continuing research to resolve the
problem defined in 3_c. {Standard 5}.  You should

1) base the plan on clues found within the document and on sound research
methods, standard genealogical sources, and material specific to the area,
time period, and subject of this records; and

2) identify fully any publications, personnel, repositories, or records
(original, in print, or electronic) you would normal consult in following
that plan.


I really would like to use the Legacy research calendar because it really
looks nice but it is too spread out.  I won't be able to get my 10 sources
on one page.


Michele



-Original Message-
From: Connie Sheets
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:34 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

The BCG does not require submission of a Research Log as part of the
certification portfolio.  Perhaps you are thinking of accreditation through
ICAPGen.

Although it won't look like a traditional research log, I concur with Sherri
that the To-Do feature is perfect for the purpose of a research log (and
more).  There are myriad ways to format the reports to make it less big and
clunky.

For those who prefer the traditional format, however, try:

http://www.family-passages.com/Tools.html

These are fillable in Excel.

Connie

--- On Sun, 7/24/11, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
 The only problem I have with the
 Legacy Research log is that it is too big and clunky.  I have to make
 a research log for the BCG (Board for the Certification of
 Genealogists) and it can only be one page.  I have to be able to get
 about 10 entries on there.  I have been looking for a research log in
 Microsoft Word format but all I can find are pdfs which I can't type
 in.

 michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-25 Thread Monica Palmer
Michele,

I used that method for awhile and had exactly that problem. It is a great
plan in theory and goes perfectly with Legacy, but impractical for my own
use. I found myself not wanting to add spouses in for collateral lines
because it would just add another number. There were lots of empty slots
between MRIN's that were were active and lots of binders being taken up.
Plus, that's a lot of money being spent on tabs! I just recently switched to
a surname/family group system that I like much better. I didn't realize that
was what she was teaching in her webinar. I signed up and will probably
still attend, but I'm disappointed.

Monica

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:47 AM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:

 Great suggestion, Ken!

 Is their anyone already using Karen Clifford's method?  I looked at it on
 her website and my only question is...  If you are using RINs and MRINs to
 file your paper files,  I guess you can never compact your file but
 reassigning unused RIN/MRIN numbers?  Also, I have 7800 people in my file
 (and my file is small compared to many of yours!).  In Karen's info, she
 has
 her notebooks divided up by 100s.  The  That is great if you have documents
 for people in the first 500 RINS but what if I have a document for RIN
 6592?
 I would have to have dividers for 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, all the way up
 to
 6500 just to file this document.

 michele


 -Original Message-
 From: Ken
 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:29 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

 Hi everyone,

 Maybe this might be a good subject for a future Webinar.  'How Legacy's
 To-Do list, Research Log and Calendar will help you to keep track of your
 genealogical research'

 This would be great follow on to the forthcoming Karen Clifford Webinar
 'Organising for Success'.

 Just an idea!

 Regards,

 Ken



 -Original Message-
 From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv [mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv]
 Sent: Monday, 25 July 2011 3:05 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

 Connie,

 As part of section 3, Document Work, submit a research plan (one page or
 less) describing the first steps for continuing research to resolve the
 problem defined in 3_c. {Standard 5}.  You should

 1) base the plan on clues found within the document and on sound research
 methods, standard genealogical sources, and material specific to the area,
 time period, and subject of this records; and

 2) identify fully any publications, personnel, repositories, or records
 (original, in print, or electronic) you would normal consult in following
 that plan.


 I really would like to use the Legacy research calendar because it really
 looks nice but it is too spread out.  I won't be able to get my 10 sources
 on one page.


 Michele



 -Original Message-
 From: Connie Sheets
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:34 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

 The BCG does not require submission of a Research Log as part of the
 certification portfolio.  Perhaps you are thinking of accreditation through
 ICAPGen.

 Although it won't look like a traditional research log, I concur with
 Sherri
 that the To-Do feature is perfect for the purpose of a research log (and
 more).  There are myriad ways to format the reports to make it less big
 and
 clunky.

 For those who prefer the traditional format, however, try:

 http://www.family-passages.com/Tools.html

 These are fillable in Excel.

 Connie

 --- On Sun, 7/24/11, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
  The only problem I have with the
  Legacy Research log is that it is too big and clunky.  I have to make
  a research log for the BCG (Board for the Certification of
  Genealogists) and it can only be one page.  I have to be able to get
  about 10 entries on there.  I have been looking for a research log in
  Microsoft Word format but all I can find are pdfs which I can't type
  in.
 
  michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-25 Thread Connie Sheets
Michele,

We're getting off topic here, but I'll make one more public comment on this in 
case others are pondering certification.

As I'm sure you realize, a research plan and a research log are not the same 
thing.  I concur that a printout from the Legacy To Do feature is not 
appropriate for this requirement, even if structured as a research plan. I'm 
reasonably certain the BCG expectation is for a narrative, not a form. If you 
have submitted your preliminary application, I'd strongly recommend you ask for 
clarification on the applicants' mailing list.

Connie

--- On Sun, 7/24/11, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv cranberryf...@cobridge.tv 
wrote:

 From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 5:05 PM
 Connie,

 As part of section 3, Document Work, submit a research
 plan (one page or
 less) describing the first steps for continuing research to
 resolve the
 problem defined in 3_c. {Standard 5}.  You should

 1) base the plan on clues found within the document and on
 sound research
 methods, standard genealogical sources, and material
 specific to the area,
 time period, and subject of this records; and

 2) identify fully any publications, personnel,
 repositories, or records
 (original, in print, or electronic) you would normal
 consult in following
 that plan.


 I really would like to use the Legacy research calendar
 because it really
 looks nice but it is too spread out.  I won't be able
 to get my 10 sources
 on one page.


 Michele



 -Original Message-
 From: Connie Sheets
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:34 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

 The BCG does not require submission of a Research Log as
 part of the
 certification portfolio.  Perhaps you are thinking of
 accreditation through
 ICAPGen.

 Although it won't look like a traditional research log, I
 concur with Sherri
 that the To-Do feature is perfect for the purpose of a
 research log (and
 more).  There are myriad ways to format the reports to
 make it less big and
 clunky.

 For those who prefer the traditional format, however, try:

 http://www.family-passages.com/Tools.html

 These are fillable in Excel.

 Connie

 --- On Sun, 7/24/11, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
  The only problem I have with the
  Legacy Research log is that it is too big
  and clunky.  I have to make a research log for
 the BCG
  (Board for the
  Certification of Genealogists) and it can only be one
  page.  I have to be
  able to get about 10 entries on there.  I have
 been
  looking for a research
  log in Microsoft Word format but all I can find are
 pdfs
  which I can't type
  in.
 
  michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-25 Thread cranberryfrog
Thanks for the info, Connie, I will check into it :)

michele

-Original Message-
From: Connie Sheets
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:33 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

Michele,

We're getting off topic here, but I'll make one more public comment on this
in case others are pondering certification.

As I'm sure you realize, a research plan and a research log are not the same
thing.  I concur that a printout from the Legacy To Do feature is not
appropriate for this requirement, even if structured as a research plan. I'm
reasonably certain the BCG expectation is for a narrative, not a form. If
you have submitted your preliminary application, I'd strongly recommend you
ask for clarification on the applicants' mailing list.

Connie



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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-25 Thread Tim Rosenlof
I would like to give equal time to another filing system. The color code
that Legacy uses was built on Mary E. V. Hill organization system. I
have been to one of her demonstration seminar's. They are great !

Why not give her equal time ?

http://www.maryevhill.com/about.htm

Select training. From the new page, select lessons

Also look at the wiki.familysearch.org and:

https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Organizing_Your_Files

At the bottom, you will see Links to Other Sites about Organizing

FamilySearch

The last two will take you directly to the system.

Tim

==


On 7/25/2011 7:05 AM, Monica Palmer wrote:
 Michele,


 On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:47 AM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
 mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:

 Great suggestion, Ken!

 Is their anyone already using Karen Clifford's method?  I looked
 at it on
 her website and my only question is...  If you are using RINs and
 MRINs to
 file your paper files,  I guess you can never compact your file but
 reassigning unused RIN/MRIN numbers?  Also, I have 7800 people in
 my file
 (and my file is small compared to many of yours!).  In Karen's
 info, she has
 her notebooks divided up by 100s.  The  That is great if you have
 documents
 for people in the first 500 RINS but what if I have a document for
 RIN 6592?
 I would have to have dividers for 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, all the
 way up to
 6500 just to file this document.

 michele


 -Original Message-
 From: Ken
 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:29 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

 Hi everyone,

 Maybe this might be a good subject for a future Webinar.  'How
 Legacy's
 To-Do list, Research Log and Calendar will help you to keep track
 of your
 genealogical research'

 This would be great follow on to the forthcoming Karen Clifford
 Webinar
 'Organising for Success'.

 Just an idea!

 Regards,

 Ken



 -Original Message-
 From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
 [mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv]
 Sent: Monday, 25 July 2011 3:05 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

 Connie,

 As part of section 3, Document Work, submit a research plan (one
 page or
 less) describing the first steps for continuing research to
 resolve the
 problem defined in 3_c. {Standard 5}.  You should

 1) base the plan on clues found within the document and on sound
 research
 methods, standard genealogical sources, and material specific to
 the area,
 time period, and subject of this records; and

 2) identify fully any publications, personnel, repositories, or
 records
 (original, in print, or electronic) you would normal consult in
 following
 that plan.


 I really would like to use the Legacy research calendar because it
 really
 looks nice but it is too spread out.  I won't be able to get my 10
 sources
 on one page.


 Michele



 -Original Message-
 From: Connie Sheets
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:34 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

 The BCG does not require submission of a Research Log as part of the
 certification portfolio.  Perhaps you are thinking of
 accreditation through
 ICAPGen.

 Although it won't look like a traditional research log, I concur
 with Sherri
 that the To-Do feature is perfect for the purpose of a research
 log (and
 more).  There are myriad ways to format the reports to make it
 less big and
 clunky.

 For those who prefer the traditional format, however, try:

 http://www.family-passages.com/Tools.html

 These are fillable in Excel.

 Connie

 --- On Sun, 7/24/11, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
 mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
  The only problem I have with the
  Legacy Research log is that it is too big and clunky.  I have to
 make
  a research log for the BCG (Board for the Certification of
  Genealogists) and it can only be one page.  I have to be able to get
  about 10 entries on there.  I have been looking for a research
 log in
  Microsoft Word format but all I can find are pdfs which I can't type
  in.
 
  michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-25 Thread cranberryfrog
That is the system that I used to use, and I agree, it does work well with
Legacy since you can color code your ancestors :)  In theory I liked it but
honestly, the files became cumbersome.  For your direct ancestors you would
have some files with nothing in there but a family group sheet.  The one
thing that I DID like about it, and I still use, are the location files.  I
have a whole file drawer with location files where I keep maps, cemetery
surveys, research guidance booklets from the FHL, and any other general
info.  There are labeled like this

USA - GEORGIA - LINCOLN CO
USA - GEORGIA - MCDUFFIE CO
USA - GEORGIA - RICHMOND CO
USA - MISSISSIPPI - FORREST CO
USA - MISSISSIPPI - LAMAR CO

Also, with Mary Hill's system and with Karen Clifford's system, they want
you to print out family group sheets and pedigree charts.  I don't like that
because I work in Legacy every day and I am constantly adding and
updatingThose family groups sheets and pedigree charts would need constant
updating taking away valuable time and money for printing!  I can easily
look up pedigrees and family group sheets in Legacy in an instant.  I much
rather just let Legacy handle that part :)

Many documents I no longer print (the biggest example are census records).
I can just turn them into pdfs and attach them in Legacy.  The only paper
documents I have any more are documents that I had to request or go get from
a courthouse.  I think both of the above systems were designed (and worked
well) for when people had many more documents than they do now.  Besides
online census records,  there are so many documents available online as
digital images that you can jpg or pdf that you no longer have to order hard
copies from archives and courthouse.Now with FamilySearch cranking out
digital images daily, I foresee even less of a need for such
complex/comprehensive filing systems.

Michele


-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:07 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

I would like to give equal time to another filing system. The color code
that Legacy uses was built on Mary E. V. Hill organization system. I
have been to one of her demonstration seminar's. They are great !

Why not give her equal time ?

http://www.maryevhill.com/about.htm

Select training. From the new page, select lessons

Also look at the wiki.familysearch.org and:

https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Organizing_Your_Files

At the bottom, you will see Links to Other Sites about Organizing

FamilySearch

The last two will take you directly to the system.

Tim

==


On 7/25/2011 7:05 AM, Monica Palmer wrote:
 Michele,


 On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:47 AM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
 mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:

 Great suggestion, Ken!

 Is their anyone already using Karen Clifford's method?  I looked
 at it on
 her website and my only question is...  If you are using RINs and
 MRINs to
 file your paper files,  I guess you can never compact your file but
 reassigning unused RIN/MRIN numbers?  Also, I have 7800 people in
 my file
 (and my file is small compared to many of yours!).  In Karen's
 info, she has
 her notebooks divided up by 100s.  The  That is great if you have
 documents
 for people in the first 500 RINS but what if I have a document for
 RIN 6592?
 I would have to have dividers for 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, all the
 way up to
 6500 just to file this document.

 michele


 -Original Message-
 From: Ken
 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:29 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

 Hi everyone,

 Maybe this might be a good subject for a future Webinar.  'How
 Legacy's
 To-Do list, Research Log and Calendar will help you to keep track
 of your
 genealogical research'

 This would be great follow on to the forthcoming Karen Clifford
 Webinar
 'Organising for Success'.

 Just an idea!

 Regards,

 Ken



 -Original Message-
 From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
 [mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv mailto:cranberryf...@cobridge.tv]
 Sent: Monday, 25 July 2011 3:05 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

 Connie,

 As part of section 3, Document Work, submit a research plan (one
 page or
 less) describing the first steps for continuing research to
 resolve the
 problem defined in 3_c. {Standard 5}.  You should

 1) base the plan on clues found within the document and on sound
 research
 methods, standard genealogical sources, and material specific to
 the area,
 time period, and subject of this records; and

 2) identify fully any publications, personnel, repositories, or
 records
 (original, in print, or electronic) you would normal consult

RE: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-24 Thread Ken
Hi Sherry, David  Tim,

Tim's question is one that's dear to my heart.

What software is around nowadays that has the ability to note down your 
genealogical research in a format similar to the standard paper note keeping 
form such as the often referred to 'Research Record Sheet' or 'Correspondence 
Record Sheet'?

At this time I have stumbled upon an old program titled 'Bygones' by Steve 
Adair which was developed during the 1990s.  Unfortunately, the last time it 
was updated was in
1999.  The software is available at http://www.bygonessoftware.com/  It seems 
quite reasonable but we are talking about software programming and technology 
that is now over twelve years old.

I'm sure that there must be more recent genealogical research software around 
that enables us to enter research data and print out our research results in 
the accepted Research  Correspondence Record Sheets.

As often is the case these days, I can type faster that I can write/print - and 
I will admit that it is much neater as well.  What's more, when you are using 
the internet for research it’s a bonus just to be able to copy the information 
and place it in a Genealogical Research program.

Appreciate any recommendations from yourselves or other members on the LUG.

Regards,

Ken


-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2011 9:07 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

The To-Do List in Legacy makes an *excellent* research log!

You can create some *great* reports from the To-Dos you've entered.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com wrote:
 How do you keep a Research Log. Electronic these days, or my good ol
 pencil and paper ? I am also finding a document that may have 50
 character urls .. ? These good ol hands are also wearing out do to
 a disease. I am aware of getting permission when using freeform (Ward
 could give comment here please) documents

 Thoughts welcome

 Tim


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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-24 Thread cranberryfrog
The only problem I have with the Legacy Research log is that it is too big
and clunky.  I have to make a research log for the BCG (Board for the
Certification of Genealogists) and it can only be one page.  I have to be
able to get about 10 entries on there.  I have been looking for a research
log in Microsoft Word format but all I can find are pdfs which I can't type
in.

michele



-Original Message-
From: Ken
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 3:47 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

Hi Sherry, David  Tim,

Tim's question is one that's dear to my heart.

What software is around nowadays that has the ability to note down your
genealogical research in a format similar to the standard paper note keeping
form such as the often referred to 'Research Record Sheet' or
'Correspondence Record Sheet'?

At this time I have stumbled upon an old program titled 'Bygones' by Steve
Adair which was developed during the 1990s.  Unfortunately, the last time it
was updated was in
1999.  The software is available at http://www.bygonessoftware.com/  It
seems quite reasonable but we are talking about software programming and
technology that is now over twelve years old.

I'm sure that there must be more recent genealogical research software
around that enables us to enter research data and print out our research
results in the accepted Research  Correspondence Record Sheets.

As often is the case these days, I can type faster that I can write/print -
and I will admit that it is much neater as well.  What's more, when you are
using the internet for research it’s a bonus just to be able to copy the
information and place it in a Genealogical Research program.

Appreciate any recommendations from yourselves or other members on the LUG.

Regards,

Ken


-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2011 9:07 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

The To-Do List in Legacy makes an *excellent* research log!

You can create some *great* reports from the To-Dos you've entered.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com wrote:
 How do you keep a Research Log. Electronic these days, or my good ol
 pencil and paper ? I am also finding a document that may have 50
 character urls .. ? These good ol hands are also wearing out do to
 a disease. I am aware of getting permission when using freeform (Ward
 could give comment here please) documents

 Thoughts welcome

 Tim


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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-24 Thread cranberryfrog
Thanks, Marc!

Michele

From: Marc Scott
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 8:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

Family tree magazine has free forms in both PDF and text
http://familytreemagazine.com/freeforms

including research logs
http://familytreemagazine.com/info/researchforms

--- On Sun, 7/24/11, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
wrote:

From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 6:55 AM


The only problem I have with the Legacy Research log is that it is too big
and clunky.  I have to make a research log for the BCG (Board for the
Certification of Genealogists) and it can only be one page.  I have to be
able to get about 10 entries on there.  I have been looking for a research
log in Microsoft Word format but all I can find are pdfs which I can't type
in.

michele



-Original Message-
From: Ken
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 3:47 AM
To: wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

Hi Sherry, David  Tim,

Tim's question is one that's dear to my heart.

What software is around nowadays that has the ability to note down your
genealogical research in a format similar to the standard paper note keeping
form such as the often referred to 'Research Record Sheet' or
'Correspondence Record Sheet'?

At this time I have stumbled upon an old program titled 'Bygones' by Steve
Adair which was developed during the 1990s.  Unfortunately, the last time it
was updated was in
1999.  The software is available at http://www.bygonessoftware.com/  It
seems quite reasonable but we are talking about software programming and
technology that is now over twelve years old.

I'm sure that there must be more recent genealogical research software
around that enables us to enter research data and print out our research
results in the accepted Research  Correspondence Record Sheets.

As often is the case these days, I can type faster that I can write/print -
and I will admit that it is much neater as well.  What's more, when you are
using the internet for research it’s a bonus just to be able to copy the
information and place it in a Genealogical Research program.

Appreciate any recommendations from yourselves or other members on the LUG.

Regards,

Ken


-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support
[mailto:wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2011 9:07 AM
To: wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

The To-Do List in Legacy makes an *excellent* research log!

You can create some *great* reports from the To-Dos you've entered.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Tim Rosenlof
wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spa...@xmission.com wrote:
 How do you keep a Research Log. Electronic these days, or my good ol
 pencil and paper ? I am also finding a document that may have 50
 character urls .. ? These good ol hands are also wearing out do to
 a disease. I am aware of getting permission when using freeform (Ward
 could give comment here please) documents

 Thoughts welcome

 Tim


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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-24 Thread Connie Sheets
The BCG does not require submission of a Research Log as part of the 
certification portfolio.  Perhaps you are thinking of accreditation through 
ICAPGen.

Although it won't look like a traditional research log, I concur with Sherri 
that the To-Do feature is perfect for the purpose of a research log (and 
more).  There are myriad ways to format the reports to make it less big and 
clunky.

For those who prefer the traditional format, however, try:

http://www.family-passages.com/Tools.html

These are fillable in Excel.

Connie

--- On Sun, 7/24/11, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
 The only problem I have with the
 Legacy Research log is that it is too big
 and clunky.  I have to make a research log for the BCG
 (Board for the
 Certification of Genealogists) and it can only be one
 page.  I have to be
 able to get about 10 entries on there.  I have been
 looking for a research
 log in Microsoft Word format but all I can find are pdfs
 which I can't type
 in.

 michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-24 Thread Sherry/Support
Actually, since this is a Legacy User Group, we need to keep this
topic focused on Legacy and add-ons, not other programs.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Ken mistyblu...@bigpond.com wrote:
 Hi Sherry, David  Tim,

 Tim's question is one that's dear to my heart.

 What software is around nowadays that has the ability to note down your 
 genealogical research in a format similar to the standard paper note keeping 
 form such as the often referred to 'Research Record Sheet' or 'Correspondence 
 Record Sheet'?


snip


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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-24 Thread Wes
On 7/22/2011 6:38 PM, Tim Rosenlof wrote:
 How do you keep a Research Log. Electronic these days, or my good ol
 pencil and paper ? I am also finding a document that may have 50
 character urls .. ? These good ol hands are also wearing out do to a
 disease. I am aware of getting permission when using freeform (Ward
 could give comment here please) documents

 Thoughts welcome

 Tim



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For all the comments referring to PDF files, there is a way to convert
them for free

http://www.freewaregenius.com/2010/03/06/how-to-convert-pdf-to-word-doc-for-free-a-comparative-test/

I usually save my results as a multi-media link to the persons record in
Legacy.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-24 Thread Tim Rosenlof
Thanks. However I was looking free form. So far Marc's is what I am after.

Tim
Off topic :P

On 7/24/2011 8:22 AM, Wes wrote:
 On 7/22/2011 6:38 PM, Tim Rosenlof wrote:
 How do you keep a Research Log. Electronic these days, or my good ol
 pencil and paper ? I am also finding a document that may have 50
 character urls .. ? These good ol hands are also wearing out do to a
 disease. I am aware of getting permission when using freeform (Ward
 could give comment here please) documents

 Thoughts welcome

 Tim


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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-24 Thread Gene Young
On 7/24/2011 7:55 AM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
 The only problem I have with the Legacy Research log is that it is too big
 and clunky.  I have to make a research log for the BCG (Board for the
 Certification of Genealogists) and it can only be one page.  I have to be

 able to get about 10 entries on there.  I have been looking for a research
 log in Microsoft Word format but all I can find are pdfs which I can't type
 in.

 michele

Go to
http://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-viewer
and download the free pdfxchange viewer.  It has a typewriter tool that
will let you type in any PDF that ISN'T locked.
It has been a valuable addition to my toolbox.

--
Gene Young


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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-24 Thread cranberryfrog
Connie,

As part of section 3, Document Work, submit a research plan (one page or
less) describing the first steps for continuing research to resolve the
problem defined in 3_c. {Standard 5}.  You should

1) base the plan on clues found within the document and on sound research
methods, standard genealogical sources, and material specific to the area,
time period, and subject of this records; and

2) identify fully any publications, personnel, repositories, or records
(original, in print, or electronic) you would normal consult in following
that plan.


I really would like to use the Legacy research calendar because it really
looks nice but it is too spread out.  I won't be able to get my 10 sources
on one page.


Michele



-Original Message-
From: Connie Sheets
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:34 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

The BCG does not require submission of a Research Log as part of the
certification portfolio.  Perhaps you are thinking of accreditation through
ICAPGen.

Although it won't look like a traditional research log, I concur with Sherri
that the To-Do feature is perfect for the purpose of a research log (and
more).  There are myriad ways to format the reports to make it less big and
clunky.

For those who prefer the traditional format, however, try:

http://www.family-passages.com/Tools.html

These are fillable in Excel.

Connie

--- On Sun, 7/24/11, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
 The only problem I have with the
 Legacy Research log is that it is too big
 and clunky.  I have to make a research log for the BCG
 (Board for the
 Certification of Genealogists) and it can only be one
 page.  I have to be
 able to get about 10 entries on there.  I have been
 looking for a research
 log in Microsoft Word format but all I can find are pdfs
 which I can't type
 in.

 michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-24 Thread Tim Rosenlof
Gene,

Tim Rosenlof(me), Gene Young(you), Ward Walker(lister), Dennis M .
Kowallek(lister). We were still together back on Wed. 20, 2009. A lot
has happened over those two years here. We were having this very
discussion. See it in the archives. Follow the whole thread. Pay
attention to what Ward Walker says. This one starts with me (Village
Idiot back then also):

http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg38866.html


Happy Hunting
Tim Rosenlof

On 7/24/2011 10:37 AM, Gene Young wrote:
 On 7/24/2011 7:55 AM, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
 The only problem I have with the Legacy Research log is that it is too big
 and clunky.  I have to make a research log for the BCG (Board for the
 Certification of Genealogists) and it can only be one page.  I have to be

 able to get about 10 entries on there.  I have been looking for a research
 log in Microsoft Word format but all I can find are pdfs which I can't type
 in.

 michele

 Go to
 http://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-viewer
 and download the free pdfxchange viewer.  It has a typewriter tool that
 will let you type in any PDF that ISN'T locked.
 It has been a valuable addition to my toolbox.



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[LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-22 Thread Tim Rosenlof
How do you keep a Research Log. Electronic these days, or my good ol
pencil and paper ? I am also finding a document that may have 50
character urls .. ? These good ol hands are also wearing out do to a
disease. I am aware of getting permission when using freeform (Ward
could give comment here please) documents

Thoughts welcome

Tim



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RE: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-22 Thread David C Abernathy
I use OneNote which is part of the MS Office package that is in Student and 
Home version.
I can copy and paste entries and then print them out if needed.

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David C Abernathy
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-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 3:39 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

How do you keep a Research Log. Electronic these days, or my good ol
pencil and paper ? I am also finding a document that may have 50
character urls .. ? These good ol hands are also wearing out do to a
disease. I am aware of getting permission when using freeform (Ward
could give comment here please) documents

Thoughts welcome

Tim



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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Logs

2011-07-22 Thread Sherry/Support
The To-Do List in Legacy makes an *excellent* research log!

You can create some *great* reports from the To-Dos you've entered.


Sincerely,
Sherry
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com wrote:
 How do you keep a Research Log. Electronic these days, or my good ol
 pencil and paper ? I am also finding a document that may have 50
 character urls .. ? These good ol hands are also wearing out do to a
 disease. I am aware of getting permission when using freeform (Ward
 could give comment here please) documents

 Thoughts welcome

 Tim


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