[LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's
Thanks to all who replied. I use the RIN and MRIN for multimedia file names, so there could be a possibility of clashes. I think I'll turn the option off again and start to worry when my naming convention runs out of digits. Thanks again Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's
My mistake then. Someone on this list said that was the case and it seemed logical to me :) Michele :) -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's Michele, I very much doubt it. The RIN is not the key field for a record, it is just a number which has no use in the DB. Each table in the DB, including the one containing the RINs has the first column as the key field, the RINs are in the second column, and play no part in the linking of the tables. Reusing a RIN does not recreate a key field. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's
Michele, I very much doubt it. The RIN is not the key field for a record, it is just a number which has no use in the DB. Each table in the DB, including the one containing the RINs has the first column as the key field, the RINs are in the second column, and play no part in the linking of the tables. Reusing a RIN does not recreate a key field. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ "Michele Lewis" wrote: >It compacts the database making it run more efficiently. > >Michele > > >-Original Message- >From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com] >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 11:05 PM >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Subject: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's > >Could someone please explain the advantages and disadvantages of setting the >"Reuse abandoned RINs" option? > >Thanks > >Tony > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's
It compacts the database making it run more efficiently. Michele -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 11:05 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's Could someone please explain the advantages and disadvantages of setting the "Reuse abandoned RINs" option? Thanks Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's
On 2012/04/26 11:22, Paul Kean wrote: > Ron has a very valid point about using previously deleted RINS. I'm just in > the situation that that has not happened to me. In general, I don't care what > the RIN for a particular person is, just as long as it never changes. Ron's argument (and one that I heartily subscribe to) is that a RIN (Record Identification Number), should never have been so closely associated with an individual. It's purely a number to give the main table a unique key. If people want to associate their own, unique identifier with a person, use the User ID field (See Customise\Other). -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's
There is at least one occassion where it is helpful. I imported a gedcom and most of the RINS were way above my own and so there were some big gaps. When I added an extra person, Legacy chose the highest RIN and added one to that. So I set the option to reuse the RINS and slowly the gaps are being filled up. When I get to the point that the gaps are gone (or almost), I will turn off that option. Ron has a very valid point about using previously deleted RINS. I'm just in the situation that that has not happened to me. In general, I don't care what the RIN for a particular person is, just as long as it never changes. ..Paul Melbourne, Australia --- On Thu, 26/4/12, Ron Ferguson wrote: > From: Ron Ferguson > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Received: Thursday, 26 April, 2012, 4:35 PM > Tony, > > I see no advantage in reusing abandoned RINs. For me, the > main disadvantage of reusing is that they are used as the > file name for Pedigree Web pages. Hence if Joe Bloggs has > RIN 100, and you delete him, then reuse the RIN for Jean > Jones the search engines' cached pages still have that RIN > linked to Joe Bloggs, as well as Jean Jones. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > "Tony Rolfe" > wrote: > > >Could someone please explain the advantages and > disadvantages of setting > >the "Reuse abandoned RINs" option? > > > >Thanks > > > >Tony > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 > 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) > and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's
Tony, I see no advantage in reusing abandoned RINs. For me, the main disadvantage of reusing is that they are used as the file name for Pedigree Web pages. Hence if Joe Bloggs has RIN 100, and you delete him, then reuse the RIN for Jean Jones the search engines' cached pages still have that RIN linked to Joe Bloggs, as well as Jean Jones. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ "Tony Rolfe" wrote: >Could someone please explain the advantages and disadvantages of setting >the "Reuse abandoned RINs" option? > >Thanks > >Tony > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's
Reuse and reassign are two different functions. "Reuse RIN/MRIIN's" is for those who use RIN/MRIN to index/identify people. If you have a person you decide for whatever reason to delete, or merge into another, then that RIN becomes unused and available. leaving a hole in youre RIN index. If you have allow for reuse, the next person you enter will then use that RIN, instead of just continuing with last highest RIN used. Can be useful if you use RIN/MRIN to index to keep from having unused gaps. "Reassign RIN/MRIN's" will renumber everyone on you're database that has a higher RIN/MRIN then the vacated one in order to fill the hole. Not a good thing to do if you relay on RIN/MRIN for indexing as you'll have to re-organize everyone. --- On Wed, 4/25/12, Tessa wrote: From: Tessa Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 10:18 PM Off the top of my head Tony - if you do not use RINs and MRINs for any type of filing or assigning identification, then it doesn't matter if you reuse them. On the other hand, if you use RINS and MRINs (I do - I iidentify all my individuals by RIN and MRIN and I keep a list and reference their numbers in my digital filing) then don't reuse because it could mess up your filing/identification. How do you keep track of your people? Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Tony Rolfe wrote: Could someone please explain the advantages and disadvantages of setting the "Reuse abandoned RINs" option? Thanks Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Tessa Keough Guild No. 5089 Legacy Virtual Users Group Surnames - Keough, Murphy, Aylward, Kocevar, Lidman, Zagradisnik Places - Ireland, Newfoundland, Norway, Slovenia, Sweden, USA (New York, Illinois, Missouri, Nebraska, Washington)Blogs - The Keough Corner and Scandia Musings & More Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's
I use RIN numbers for my WEB program to identify individuals. But when I abandon a RIN I can reassign it as I will never use it again for that person. So I tick "Reuse abandoned RINs" to keep my RINs in sequence with no holes. Just think about what you are going to be using the numbers for, or what assignments you may give your Legacy program to use the numbers. The program does not care, so it is up to you. Carl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RIN's
Could someone please explain the advantages and disadvantages of setting the "Reuse abandoned RINs" option? Thanks Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
