RE: [LegacyUG] Spaces in file names Was - What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread Ron Ferguson
Bob,

You are correct, that using the ampersand on its own is a risk, and your post 
also shows why, it has other uses or meanings in html - normally no problem, 
but potentially a problem.

To deal with other points made. Lee, you may have no problems with your server, 
and the problems are more to do with servers than PCs, but that does not mean 
it is true fir all. For some ron ferguson.jpg will be fine, but others can 
change it to ron%20ferguson.jpg which is not the same and the image will not 
be visible. As always, safety first.

JLB I really am not paranoid about this, but I have seen too many instances 
where problems have been caused. I am aware that there is software available 
which will rewrite file names substituting hyphens or underscores, but I feel 
that it is better to get it right in the first place. In a way it is like 
Windows reading upper and lower case the same whereas servers do not, so it is 
best not to mix the cases unless one adopts a system eg. RonFerguson.jpg. 
This is why I do mention it whenever I spot potential future problems.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307


Robert Austen rgaus...@telus.net wrote:

Hi Ron,

Thanks for this.  John also showed everything connected with underscores. I 
appreciate the comment regarding creating a website.  Time to go back and fill 
in the spaces.  John also recommended only the hyphen, underscore and 
'ampersand'.  I am very inexperienced in HTML coding but I thought I had heard 
of problems with the ampersand, particularly in a url unless it's written as 
'amp'.  I suppose the phot file name could show up in a url.

Your thoughts?

Bob



-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of 
compi ler

Bob,

Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider creating 
a website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an underscore or hyphen 
instead, otherwise they may well not work.

In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters in addition to the 
above two.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307






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Re: [LegacyUG] Spaces in file names Was - What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread JLB
Ron, I wasn't saying that you're wrong about what you said, just that
it's not necessary to go changing all the file names on your computer
unless you plan on uploading your files to the web. The few that I do
upload I change prior. It's a different batch of work.

Of course, if you're linking your files to Legacy (which I don't) and
creating web pages from Legacy (which I don't) then, yes, you might as
well get it right the first time. Hyphenate and ampersand away there.
---
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

On 10/15/2012 1:36 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Bob,

 You are correct, that using the ampersand on its own is a risk, and your post 
 also shows why, it has other uses or meanings in html - normally no problem, 
 but potentially a problem.

 To deal with other points made. Lee, you may have no problems with your 
 server, and the problems are more to do with servers than PCs, but that does 
 not mean it is true fir all. For some ron ferguson.jpg will be fine, but 
 others can change it to ron%20ferguson.jpg which is not the same and the 
 image will not be visible. As always, safety first.

 JLB I really am not paranoid about this, but I have seen too many instances 
 where problems have been caused. I am aware that there is software available 
 which will rewrite file names substituting hyphens or underscores, but I feel 
 that it is better to get it right in the first place. In a way it is like 
 Windows reading upper and lower case the same whereas servers do not, so it 
 is best not to mix the cases unless one adopts a system eg. 
 RonFerguson.jpg. This is why I do mention it whenever I spot potential 
 future problems.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307


 Robert Austenrgaus...@telus.net  wrote:

 Hi Ron,

 Thanks for this.  John also showed everything connected with underscores. I 
 appreciate the comment regarding creating a website.  Time to go back and 
 fill in the spaces.  John also recommended only the hyphen, underscore and 
 'ampersand'.  I am very inexperienced in HTML coding but I thought I had 
 heard of problems with the ampersand, particularly in a url unless it's 
 written as 'amp'.  I suppose the phot file name could show up in a url.

 Your thoughts?

 Bob



 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:16 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of 
 compi ler

 Bob,

 Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some time consider 
 creating a website - do not have spaces in your file names, use an 
 underscore or hyphen instead, otherwise they may well not work.

 In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters in addition to the 
 above two.
 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307






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RE: [LegacyUG] Spaces in file names Was - What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-15 Thread Robert Austen
Thanks to Ron Ferguson, John Zimmerman, JLB, and others, for their comments on 
characters, spaces, underscores, etc.   Your were of great help.

Bob


-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:37 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Spaces in file names Was - What to do with genealogical 
files after death of compi ler

Bob,

You are correct, that using the ampersand on its own is a risk, and your post 
also shows why, it has other uses or meanings in html - normally no problem, 
but potentially a problem.

To deal with other points made. Lee, you may have no problems with your server, 
and the problems are more to do with servers than PCs, but that does not mean 
it is true fir all. For some ron ferguson.jpg will be fine, but others can 
change it to ron%20ferguson.jpg which is not the same and the image will not 
be visible. As always, safety first.

JLB I really am not paranoid about this, but I have seen too many instances 
where problems have been caused. I am aware that there is software available 
which will rewrite file names substituting hyphens or underscores, but I feel 
that it is better to get it right in the first place. In a way it is like 
Windows reading upper and lower case the same whereas servers do not, so it is 
best not to mix the cases unless one adopts a system eg. RonFerguson.jpg. 
This is why I do mention it whenever I spot potential future problems.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307






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