Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help
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Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help
Thank you. Boy, do I feel dumb! Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2010, at 1:56 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Maureen Lake wrote (I couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any). For future reference, look to the foot of every mail from this list. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help
Ron, Thanks so much. What a great idea. I'll check it out as soon as I get home from my mini-vacation. Maureen Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Maureen, Dennis Kowallek of LTools has created a new tool for his LTools program which will create the necessary TXT file for the Timeline from a list of Events It can be downloaded from: http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/download.html ($10) And found by double clicking the List Events Button Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Maureen Lake wrote: Okay, so if I'm following the logic here, by rights I should be able to export a new GEDCom with all the updated data. I should then be able to turn thatinto a .txt file which I can inport into an Excel spreadsheet, eliminate the data that refers to me, save it as a timeline into the timelines folder, and then access through that system? Does this sound about right? Or would it be easier if i just saved the timeline out as an .rtf and added my information in manually? And just off the cuff, I've added pictures to several of these events, homes I've lived in and such. Can I get those to print on the timeline or chronology reports? Thanks again. Maureen - Original Message From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 4:02:35 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help Maureen Lake wrote: I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this covers old ground (I couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any). I'm teaching a class on personal timelines, so I started creating one for myself. I figured it was a good place to start. I pulled my family group and four generations back of my and my husband's lines as background into a GEDCom and started a new file. Then I started adding information from my baby book and anywhere else I could find it to the Events/Facts box in my entry. I added my father's military service into his entry for kicks and grins. When I pulled it all together, it showed all my data, it showed my parent's deaths. It didn't show either of my parents' remarriages, any of my grandparents' deaths, my nephew's death, my daughter or son's marraiges, my granchildren's births, my graddaughter's death, etc. Is there any way to get Legacy to consolidate all the information that happened within my tree in the given timeline period to display, in this case, anything within those six generations from 1962 to present, all of which played a part in my life? Or are those all points I would have to add seperately into the Events/Facts area of the entry? Thanks so much. Maureen Lake Maureen, As you have found the standard timeline construction which you have used, and I am assuming that you are referring to the output from the Chronology Tab, will only include specific events which you can select using the options button on the right. On clicking that button you may have noticed, at the bottom of the Chronology Options screen a button named Select Background Timelines and if you click it it takes you to a list of timelines relating to all sorts of events, such as the British Monarchy, British Prime Ministers etc. etc. Now I know this is not what you want, but the great thing about it is that you can write your own background timeline using it. Clicking the Help Button tells you how. So, in Maureen's Timeline you can include all the information which isn't showing at present. If you want to look at the construction of these timelines, they are contained in C:\Legacy\Timelines\ (assuming you installed Legacy in C:\) and they are only text files, so you can open them in any text editor (even Notepad!). If you have Open Office Calc or Windows Excel then you can treat them as a CSV file use | (no quotes) as the delimited, you will also see that Legacy uses {/n} as line feed/carriage return. If you hit any problems please do come back and I will happily take you through the process, probably not today - as it is now my tomorrow! Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help
Ron, Thanks so much. What a great idea. I'll check it out as soon as I get home from my mini-vacation. Maureen Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Maureen, Dennis Kowallek of LTools has created a new tool for his LTools program which will create the necessary TXT file for the Timeline from a list of Events It can be downloaded from: http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/download.html ($10) And found by double clicking the List Events Button Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Maureen Lake wrote: Okay, so if I'm following the logic here, by rights I should be able to export a new GEDCom with all the updated data. I should then be able to turn thatinto a .txt file which I can inport into an Excel spreadsheet, eliminate the data that refers to me, save it as a timeline into the timelines folder, and then access through that system? Does this sound about right? Or would it be easier if i just saved the timeline out as an .rtf and added my information in manually? And just off the cuff, I've added pictures to several of these events, homes I've lived in and such. Can I get those to print on the timeline or chronology reports? Thanks again. Maureen - Original Message From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 4:02:35 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help Maureen Lake wrote: I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this covers old ground (I couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any). I'm teaching a class on personal timelines, so I started creating one for myself. I figured it was a good place to start. I pulled my family group and four generations back of my and my husband's lines as background into a GEDCom and started a new file. Then I started adding information from my baby book and anywhere else I could find it to the Events/Facts box in my entry. I added my father's military service into his entry for kicks and grins. When I pulled it all together, it showed all my data, it showed my parent's deaths. It didn't show either of my parents' remarriages, any of my grandparents' deaths, my nephew's death, my daughter or son's marraiges, my granchildren's births, my graddaughter's death, etc. Is there any way to get Legacy to consolidate all the information that happened within my tree in the given timeline period to display, in this case, anything within those six generations from 1962 to present, all of which played a part in my life? Or are those all points I would have to add seperately into the Events/Facts area of the entry? Thanks so much. Maureen Lake Maureen, As you have found the standard timeline construction which you have used, and I am assuming that you are referring to the output from the Chronology Tab, will only include specific events which you can select using the options button on the right. On clicking that button you may have noticed, at the bottom of the Chronology Options screen a button named Select Background Timelines and if you click it it takes you to a list of timelines relating to all sorts of events, such as the British Monarchy, British Prime Ministers etc. etc. Now I know this is not what you want, but the great thing about it is that you can write your own background timeline using it. Clicking the Help Button tells you how. So, in Maureen's Timeline you can include all the information which isn't showing at present. If you want to look at the construction of these timelines, they are contained in C:\Legacy\Timelines\ (assuming you installed Legacy in C:\) and they are only text files, so you can open them in any text editor (even Notepad!). If you have Open Office Calc or Windows Excel then you can treat them as a CSV file use | (no quotes) as the delimited, you will also see that Legacy uses {/n} as line feed/carriage return. If you hit any problems please do come back and I will happily take you through the process, probably not today - as it is now my tomorrow! Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
[LegacyUG] Timeline help
I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this covers old ground (I couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any). I'm teaching a class on personal timelines, so I started creating one for myself. I figured it was a good place to start. I pulled my family group and four generations back of my and my husband's lines as background into a GEDCom and started a new file. Then I started adding information from my baby book and anywhere else I could find it to the Events/Facts box in my entry. I added my father's military service into his entry for kicks and grins. When I pulled it all together, it showed all my data, it showed my parent's deaths. It didn't show either of my parents' remarriages, any of my grandparents' deaths, my nephew's death, my daughter or son's marraiges, my granchildren's births, my graddaughter's death, etc. Is there any way to get Legacy to consolidate all the information that happened within my tree in the given timeline period to display, in this case, anything within those six generations from 1962 to present, all of which played a part in my life? Or are those all points I would have to add seperately into the Events/Facts area of the entry? Thanks so much. Maureen Lake Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help
Maureen Lake wrote: I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this covers old ground (I couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any). I'm teaching a class on personal timelines, so I started creating one for myself. I figured it was a good place to start. I pulled my family group and four generations back of my and my husband's lines as background into a GEDCom and started a new file. Then I started adding information from my baby book and anywhere else I could find it to the Events/Facts box in my entry. I added my father's military service into his entry for kicks and grins. When I pulled it all together, it showed all my data, it showed my parent's deaths. It didn't show either of my parents' remarriages, any of my grandparents' deaths, my nephew's death, my daughter or son's marraiges, my granchildren's births, my graddaughter's death, etc. Is there any way to get Legacy to consolidate all the information that happened within my tree in the given timeline period to display, in this case, anything within those six generations from 1962 to present, all of which played a part in my life? Or are those all points I would have to add seperately into the Events/Facts area of the entry? Thanks so much. Maureen Lake Maureen, As you have found the standard timeline construction which you have used, and I am assuming that you are referring to the output from the Chronology Tab, will only include specific events which you can select using the options button on the right. On clicking that button you may have noticed, at the bottom of the Chronology Options screen a button named Select Background Timelines and if you click it it takes you to a list of timelines relating to all sorts of events, such as the British Monarchy, British Prime Ministers etc. etc. Now I know this is not what you want, but the great thing about it is that you can write your own background timeline using it. Clicking the Help Button tells you how. So, in Maureen's Timeline you can include all the information which isn't showing at present. If you want to look at the construction of these timelines, they are contained in C:\Legacy\Timelines\ (assuming you installed Legacy in C:\) and they are only text files, so you can open them in any text editor (even Notepad!). If you have Open Office Calc or Windows Excel then you can treat them as a CSV file use | (no quotes) as the delimited, you will also see that Legacy uses {/n} as line feed/carriage return. If you hit any problems please do come back and I will happily take you through the process, probably not today - as it is now my tomorrow! Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help
Okay, so if I'm following the logic here, by rights I should be able to export a new GEDCom with all the updated data. I should then be able to turn thatinto a .txt file which I can inport into an Excel spreadsheet, eliminate the data that refers to me, save it as a timeline into the timelines folder, and then access through that system? Does this sound about right? Or would it be easier if i just saved the timeline out as an .rtf and added my information in manually? And just off the cuff, I've added pictures to several of these events, homes I've lived in and such. Can I get those to print on the timeline or chronology reports? Thanks again. Maureen - Original Message From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 4:02:35 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help Maureen Lake wrote: I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this covers old ground (I couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any). I'm teaching a class on personal timelines, so I started creating one for myself. I figured it was a good place to start. I pulled my family group and four generations back of my and my husband's lines as background into a GEDCom and started a new file. Then I started adding information from my baby book and anywhere else I could find it to the Events/Facts box in my entry. I added my father's military service into his entry for kicks and grins. When I pulled it all together, it showed all my data, it showed my parent's deaths. It didn't show either of my parents' remarriages, any of my grandparents' deaths, my nephew's death, my daughter or son's marraiges, my granchildren's births, my graddaughter's death, etc. Is there any way to get Legacy to consolidate all the information that happened within my tree in the given timeline period to display, in this case, anything within those six generations from 1962 to present, all of which played a part in my life? Or are those all points I would have to add seperately into the Events/Facts area of the entry? Thanks so much. Maureen Lake Maureen, As you have found the standard timeline construction which you have used, and I am assuming that you are referring to the output from the Chronology Tab, will only include specific events which you can select using the options button on the right. On clicking that button you may have noticed, at the bottom of the Chronology Options screen a button named Select Background Timelines and if you click it it takes you to a list of timelines relating to all sorts of events, such as the British Monarchy, British Prime Ministers etc. etc. Now I know this is not what you want, but the great thing about it is that you can write your own background timeline using it. Clicking the Help Button tells you how. So, in Maureen's Timeline you can include all the information which isn't showing at present. If you want to look at the construction of these timelines, they are contained in C:\Legacy\Timelines\ (assuming you installed Legacy in C:\) and they are only text files, so you can open them in any text editor (even Notepad!). If you have Open Office Calc or Windows Excel then you can treat them as a CSV file use | (no quotes) as the delimited, you will also see that Legacy uses {/n} as line feed/carriage return. If you hit any problems please do come back and I will happily take you through the process, probably not today - as it is now my tomorrow! Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help
Maureen, I'm afraid you lost me from line 1, but like I said it's now tomorrow here! I don't understand where your GEDCOM comes into it! Ah! I think I see where you are coming from. If you are asking whether you can export your data from Legacy to a GEDCOM and then get it into Excel in a format which the Legacy Timeline would accept after processing, then off the cuff, I don't think so. Do you have Access and know SQL? Using that may be possible, but I doubt if it would be easy to code. Please take a look at the construction of the Legacy Timeline, as I suggested in my last post. I suspect that you will find that you will have to enter the data which you wish to include into your timeline manually. When I write them I actually find it easier to write them in OO.o Calc (I don't use Excel), manually insert the {/n} where needed, and export them as a CSV using | as the separator. Post saving I change the extension from CSV to TXT. The timelines/Chronology Reports will not accept pictures - they wouldn't fit anyhow. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Maureen Lake wrote: Okay, so if I'm following the logic here, by rights I should be able to export a new GEDCom with all the updated data. I should then be able to turn thatinto a .txt file which I can inport into an Excel spreadsheet, eliminate the data that refers to me, save it as a timeline into the timelines folder, and then access through that system? Does this sound about right? Or would it be easier if i just saved the timeline out as an .rtf and added my information in manually? And just off the cuff, I've added pictures to several of these events, homes I've lived in and such. Can I get those to print on the timeline or chronology reports? Thanks again. Maureen - Original Message From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 4:02:35 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help Maureen Lake wrote: I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this covers old ground (I couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any). I'm teaching a class on personal timelines, so I started creating one for myself. I figured it was a good place to start. I pulled my family group and four generations back of my and my husband's lines as background into a GEDCom and started a new file. Then I started adding information from my baby book and anywhere else I could find it to the Events/Facts box in my entry. I added my father's military service into his entry for kicks and grins. When I pulled it all together, it showed all my data, it showed my parent's deaths. It didn't show either of my parents' remarriages, any of my grandparents' deaths, my nephew's death, my daughter or son's marraiges, my granchildren's births, my graddaughter's death, etc. Is there any way to get Legacy to consolidate all the information that happened within my tree in the given timeline period to display, in this case, anything within those six generations from 1962 to present, all of which played a part in my life? Or are those all points I would have to add seperately into the Events/Facts area of the entry? Thanks so much. Maureen Lake Maureen, As you have found the standard timeline construction which you have used, and I am assuming that you are referring to the output from the Chronology Tab, will only include specific events which you can select using the options button on the right. On clicking that button you may have noticed, at the bottom of the Chronology Options screen a button named Select Background Timelines and if you click it it takes you to a list of timelines relating to all sorts of events, such as the British Monarchy, British Prime Ministers etc. etc. Now I know this is not what you want, but the great thing about it is that you can write your own background timeline using it. Clicking the Help Button tells you how. So, in Maureen's Timeline you can include all the information which isn't showing at present. If you want to look at the construction of these timelines, they are contained in C:\Legacy\Timelines\ (assuming you installed Legacy in C:\) and they are only text files, so you can open them in any text editor (even Notepad!). If you have Open Office Calc or Windows Excel then you can treat them as a CSV file use | (no quotes) as the delimited, you will also see that Legacy uses {/n} as line feed/carriage return. If you hit any problems please do come back and I will happily take you through the process, probably not today - as it is now my tomorrow! Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google