Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help

2010-05-27 Thread Jenny M Benson
Maureen Lake wrote
(I couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any). 

For future reference, look to the foot of every mail from this list.
--
Jenny M Benson



Legacy User Group guidelines:

   http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/

Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp

To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp





Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help

2010-05-27 Thread Maureen Lake
Thank you.  Boy, do I feel dumb!

Sent from my iPhone

On May 27, 2010, at 1:56 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:

Maureen Lake wrote
(I couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any).

For future reference, look to the foot of every mail from this list.
--
Jenny M Benson



Legacy User Group guidelines:

  http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

  http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

  http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/

Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp

To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp










Legacy User Group guidelines:

   http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/

Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp

To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp





Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help

2010-05-27 Thread Maureen Lake
Ron,

Thanks so much.  What a great idea.  I'll check it out as soon as I get home 
from my mini-vacation.

Maureen

Sent from my iPhone

On May 27, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Maureen,

Dennis Kowallek of LTools has created a new tool for his LTools program
which will create the necessary TXT file for the Timeline from a list of
Events It can be downloaded from:

http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/download.html ($10)

And found by double clicking the List Events Button

Ron Ferguson
_

*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England

Maureen Lake wrote:
Okay, so if I'm following the logic here, by rights I should be able
to export a new GEDCom with all the updated data. I should then be
able to turn thatinto a .txt file which I can inport into an Excel
spreadsheet, eliminate the data that refers to me, save it as a
timeline into the timelines folder, and then access through that
system?

Does this sound about right? Or would it be easier if i just saved
the timeline out as an .rtf and added my information in manually?

And just off the cuff, I've added pictures to several of these
events, homes I've lived in and such. Can I get those to print on the
timeline or chronology reports?

Thanks again.

Maureen



- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 4:02:35 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help

Maureen Lake wrote:
I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this covers old ground (I
couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any).

I'm teaching a class on personal timelines, so I started creating one
for myself. I figured it was a good place to start. I pulled my
family group and four generations back of my and my husband's lines
as background into a GEDCom and started a new file. Then I started
adding information from my baby book and anywhere else I could find
it to the Events/Facts box in my entry. I added my father's military
service into his entry for kicks and grins.

When I pulled it all together, it showed all my data, it showed my
parent's deaths. It didn't show either of my parents' remarriages,
any of my grandparents' deaths, my nephew's death, my daughter or
son's marraiges, my granchildren's births, my graddaughter's death,
etc.

Is there any way to get Legacy to consolidate all the information
that happened within my tree in the given timeline period to display,
in this case, anything within those six generations from 1962 to
present, all of which played a part in my life? Or are those all
points I would have to add seperately into the Events/Facts area of
the entry?

Thanks so much.

Maureen Lake


Maureen,

As you have found the standard timeline construction which you have
used,
and I am assuming that you are referring to the output from the
Chronology
Tab, will only include specific events which you can select using the
options button on the right.

On clicking that button you may have noticed, at the bottom of the
Chronology Options screen a button named Select Background
Timelines and
if you click it it takes you to a list of timelines relating to all
sorts of
events, such as the British Monarchy, British Prime Ministers etc.
etc.

Now I know this is not what you want, but the great thing about it is
that
you can write your own background timeline using it. Clicking the Help
Button tells you how. So, in Maureen's Timeline you can include all
the
information which isn't showing at present. If you want to look at the
construction of these timelines, they are contained in
C:\Legacy\Timelines\
(assuming you installed Legacy in C:\) and they are only text files,
so you
can open them in any text editor (even Notepad!).

If you have Open Office Calc or Windows Excel then you can treat them
as a
CSV file use | (no quotes) as the delimited, you will also see that
Legacy
uses {/n} as line feed/carriage return.

If you hit any problems please do come back and I will happily take
you
through the process, probably not today - as it is now my tomorrow!

Ron Ferguson
_

*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England





Legacy User Group guidelines:

http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/

Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp

To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help

2010-05-27 Thread Maureen Lake
Ron,

Thanks so much.  What a great idea.  I'll check it out as soon as I get home 
from my mini-vacation.

Maureen

Sent from my iPhone

On May 27, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Maureen,

Dennis Kowallek of LTools has created a new tool for his LTools program
which will create the necessary TXT file for the Timeline from a list of
Events It can be downloaded from:

http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/download.html ($10)

And found by double clicking the List Events Button

Ron Ferguson
_

*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England

Maureen Lake wrote:
Okay, so if I'm following the logic here, by rights I should be able
to export a new GEDCom with all the updated data. I should then be
able to turn thatinto a .txt file which I can inport into an Excel
spreadsheet, eliminate the data that refers to me, save it as a
timeline into the timelines folder, and then access through that
system?

Does this sound about right? Or would it be easier if i just saved
the timeline out as an .rtf and added my information in manually?

And just off the cuff, I've added pictures to several of these
events, homes I've lived in and such. Can I get those to print on the
timeline or chronology reports?

Thanks again.

Maureen



- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 4:02:35 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help

Maureen Lake wrote:
I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this covers old ground (I
couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any).

I'm teaching a class on personal timelines, so I started creating one
for myself. I figured it was a good place to start. I pulled my
family group and four generations back of my and my husband's lines
as background into a GEDCom and started a new file. Then I started
adding information from my baby book and anywhere else I could find
it to the Events/Facts box in my entry. I added my father's military
service into his entry for kicks and grins.

When I pulled it all together, it showed all my data, it showed my
parent's deaths. It didn't show either of my parents' remarriages,
any of my grandparents' deaths, my nephew's death, my daughter or
son's marraiges, my granchildren's births, my graddaughter's death,
etc.

Is there any way to get Legacy to consolidate all the information
that happened within my tree in the given timeline period to display,
in this case, anything within those six generations from 1962 to
present, all of which played a part in my life? Or are those all
points I would have to add seperately into the Events/Facts area of
the entry?

Thanks so much.

Maureen Lake


Maureen,

As you have found the standard timeline construction which you have
used,
and I am assuming that you are referring to the output from the
Chronology
Tab, will only include specific events which you can select using the
options button on the right.

On clicking that button you may have noticed, at the bottom of the
Chronology Options screen a button named Select Background
Timelines and
if you click it it takes you to a list of timelines relating to all
sorts of
events, such as the British Monarchy, British Prime Ministers etc.
etc.

Now I know this is not what you want, but the great thing about it is
that
you can write your own background timeline using it. Clicking the Help
Button tells you how. So, in Maureen's Timeline you can include all
the
information which isn't showing at present. If you want to look at the
construction of these timelines, they are contained in
C:\Legacy\Timelines\
(assuming you installed Legacy in C:\) and they are only text files,
so you
can open them in any text editor (even Notepad!).

If you have Open Office Calc or Windows Excel then you can treat them
as a
CSV file use | (no quotes) as the delimited, you will also see that
Legacy
uses {/n} as line feed/carriage return.

If you hit any problems please do come back and I will happily take
you
through the process, probably not today - as it is now my tomorrow!

Ron Ferguson
_

*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England





Legacy User Group guidelines:

http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/

Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp

To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

[LegacyUG] Timeline help

2010-05-26 Thread Maureen Lake
I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this covers old ground (I couldn't figure 
out how to get to the archives, if there are any). 

I'm teaching a class on personal timelines, so I started creating one for 
myself.  I figured it was a good place to start.  I pulled my family group and 
four generations back of my and my husband's lines as background into a GEDCom 
and started a new file.  Then I started adding information from my baby book 
and anywhere else I could find it to the Events/Facts box in my entry.  I added 
my father's military service into his entry for kicks and grins.

When I pulled it all together, it showed all my data, it showed my parent's 
deaths.  It didn't show either of my parents' remarriages, any of my 
grandparents' deaths, my nephew's death, my daughter or son's marraiges, my 
granchildren's births, my graddaughter's death, etc.

Is there any way to get Legacy to consolidate all the information that happened 
within my tree in the given timeline period to display, in this case, anything 
within those six generations from 1962 to present, all of which played a part 
in my life?  Or are those all points I would have to add seperately into the 
Events/Facts area of the entry?

Thanks so much.

Maureen Lake






Legacy User Group guidelines:

   http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/

Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp

To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp





Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help

2010-05-26 Thread Ron Ferguson
Maureen Lake wrote:
 I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this covers old ground (I
 couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any).

 I'm teaching a class on personal timelines, so I started creating one
 for myself. I figured it was a good place to start. I pulled my
 family group and four generations back of my and my husband's lines
 as background into a GEDCom and started a new file. Then I started
 adding information from my baby book and anywhere else I could find
 it to the Events/Facts box in my entry. I added my father's military
 service into his entry for kicks and grins.

 When I pulled it all together, it showed all my data, it showed my
 parent's deaths. It didn't show either of my parents' remarriages,
 any of my grandparents' deaths, my nephew's death, my daughter or
 son's marraiges, my granchildren's births, my graddaughter's death,
 etc.

 Is there any way to get Legacy to consolidate all the information
 that happened within my tree in the given timeline period to display,
 in this case, anything within those six generations from 1962 to
 present, all of which played a part in my life? Or are those all
 points I would have to add seperately into the Events/Facts area of
 the entry?

 Thanks so much.

 Maureen Lake


Maureen,

As you have found the standard timeline construction which you have used,
and I am assuming that you are referring to the output from the Chronology
Tab, will only include specific events which you can select using the
options button on the right.

On clicking that button you may have noticed, at the bottom of  the
Chronology Options screen a button named Select Background Timelines and
if you click it it takes you to a list of timelines relating to all sorts of
events, such as the British Monarchy, British Prime Ministers etc. etc.

Now I know this is not what you want, but the great thing about it is that
you can write your own background timeline using it. Clicking the Help
Button tells you how. So, in Maureen's Timeline you can include all the
information which isn't showing at present. If you want to look at the
construction of these timelines, they are contained in C:\Legacy\Timelines\
(assuming you installed Legacy in C:\) and they are only text files, so you
can open them in any text editor (even Notepad!).

If you have Open Office Calc or Windows Excel then you can treat them as a
CSV file use | (no quotes) as the delimited, you will also see that Legacy
uses {/n} as line feed/carriage return.

If you hit any problems please do come back and I will happily take you
through the process, probably not today - as it is now my tomorrow!

Ron Ferguson
_

*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England





Legacy User Group guidelines:

   http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/

Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp

To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp





Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help

2010-05-26 Thread Maureen Lake
Okay, so if I'm following the logic here, by rights I should be able to export 
a new GEDCom with all the updated data.  I should then be able to turn thatinto 
a .txt file which I can inport into an Excel spreadsheet, eliminate the data 
that refers to me, save it as a timeline into the timelines folder, and then 
access through that system?

Does this sound about right?  Or would it be easier if i just saved the 
timeline out as an .rtf and added my information in manually?

And just off the cuff, I've added pictures to several of these events, homes 
I've lived in and such.  Can I get those to print on the timeline or chronology 
reports?

Thanks again.

Maureen



- Original Message 
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 4:02:35 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help

Maureen Lake wrote:
 I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this covers old ground (I
 couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any).

 I'm teaching a class on personal timelines, so I started creating one
 for myself. I figured it was a good place to start. I pulled my
 family group and four generations back of my and my husband's lines
 as background into a GEDCom and started a new file. Then I started
 adding information from my baby book and anywhere else I could find
 it to the Events/Facts box in my entry. I added my father's military
 service into his entry for kicks and grins.

 When I pulled it all together, it showed all my data, it showed my
 parent's deaths. It didn't show either of my parents' remarriages,
 any of my grandparents' deaths, my nephew's death, my daughter or
 son's marraiges, my granchildren's births, my graddaughter's death,
 etc.

 Is there any way to get Legacy to consolidate all the information
 that happened within my tree in the given timeline period to display,
 in this case, anything within those six generations from 1962 to
 present, all of which played a part in my life? Or are those all
 points I would have to add seperately into the Events/Facts area of
 the entry?

 Thanks so much.

 Maureen Lake


Maureen,

As you have found the standard timeline construction which you have used,
and I am assuming that you are referring to the output from the Chronology
Tab, will only include specific events which you can select using the
options button on the right.

On clicking that button you may have noticed, at the bottom of  the
Chronology Options screen a button named Select Background Timelines and
if you click it it takes you to a list of timelines relating to all sorts of
events, such as the British Monarchy, British Prime Ministers etc. etc.

Now I know this is not what you want, but the great thing about it is that
you can write your own background timeline using it. Clicking the Help
Button tells you how. So, in Maureen's Timeline you can include all the
information which isn't showing at present. If you want to look at the
construction of these timelines, they are contained in C:\Legacy\Timelines\
(assuming you installed Legacy in C:\) and they are only text files, so you
can open them in any text editor (even Notepad!).

If you have Open Office Calc or Windows Excel then you can treat them as a
CSV file use | (no quotes) as the delimited, you will also see that Legacy
uses {/n} as line feed/carriage return.

If you hit any problems please do come back and I will happily take you
through the process, probably not today - as it is now my tomorrow!

Ron Ferguson
_

*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England





Legacy User Group guidelines:

  http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

  http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

  http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/

Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp

To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp






Legacy User Group guidelines:

   http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/

Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp

To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp





Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help

2010-05-26 Thread Ron Ferguson
Maureen,

I'm afraid you lost me from line 1, but like I said it's now tomorrow here!

I don't understand where your GEDCOM comes into it! Ah! I think I see where
you are coming from. If you are asking whether you can export your data from
Legacy to a GEDCOM and then get it into Excel in a format which the Legacy
Timeline would accept after processing, then off the cuff, I don't think so.
Do you have Access and know SQL? Using that may be possible, but I doubt if
it would be easy to code.

Please take a look at the construction of the Legacy Timeline, as I
suggested in my last post. I suspect that you will find that you will have
to enter the data which you wish to include into your timeline manually.
When I write them I actually find it easier to write them in OO.o Calc (I
don't use Excel), manually insert the {/n} where needed, and export them
as a CSV using | as the separator. Post saving I change the extension from
CSV to TXT.

The timelines/Chronology Reports will not accept pictures - they wouldn't
fit anyhow.

Ron Ferguson
_

*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England



Maureen Lake wrote:
 Okay, so if I'm following the logic here, by rights I should be able
 to export a new GEDCom with all the updated data. I should then be
 able to turn thatinto a .txt file which I can inport into an Excel
 spreadsheet, eliminate the data that refers to me, save it as a
 timeline into the timelines folder, and then access through that
 system?

 Does this sound about right? Or would it be easier if i just saved
 the timeline out as an .rtf and added my information in manually?

 And just off the cuff, I've added pictures to several of these
 events, homes I've lived in and such. Can I get those to print on the
 timeline or chronology reports?

 Thanks again.

 Maureen



 - Original Message 
 From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 4:02:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timeline help

 Maureen Lake wrote:
 I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this covers old ground (I
 couldn't figure out how to get to the archives, if there are any).

 I'm teaching a class on personal timelines, so I started creating one
 for myself. I figured it was a good place to start. I pulled my
 family group and four generations back of my and my husband's lines
 as background into a GEDCom and started a new file. Then I started
 adding information from my baby book and anywhere else I could find
 it to the Events/Facts box in my entry. I added my father's military
 service into his entry for kicks and grins.

 When I pulled it all together, it showed all my data, it showed my
 parent's deaths. It didn't show either of my parents' remarriages,
 any of my grandparents' deaths, my nephew's death, my daughter or
 son's marraiges, my granchildren's births, my graddaughter's death,
 etc.

 Is there any way to get Legacy to consolidate all the information
 that happened within my tree in the given timeline period to display,
 in this case, anything within those six generations from 1962 to
 present, all of which played a part in my life? Or are those all
 points I would have to add seperately into the Events/Facts area of
 the entry?

 Thanks so much.

 Maureen Lake


 Maureen,

 As you have found the standard timeline construction which you have
 used,
 and I am assuming that you are referring to the output from the
 Chronology
 Tab, will only include specific events which you can select using the
 options button on the right.

 On clicking that button you may have noticed, at the bottom of the
 Chronology Options screen a button named Select Background
 Timelines and
 if you click it it takes you to a list of timelines relating to all
 sorts of
 events, such as the British Monarchy, British Prime Ministers etc.
 etc.

 Now I know this is not what you want, but the great thing about it is
 that
 you can write your own background timeline using it. Clicking the Help
 Button tells you how. So, in Maureen's Timeline you can include all
 the
 information which isn't showing at present. If you want to look at the
 construction of these timelines, they are contained in
 C:\Legacy\Timelines\
 (assuming you installed Legacy in C:\) and they are only text files,
 so you
 can open them in any text editor (even Notepad!).

 If you have Open Office Calc or Windows Excel then you can treat them
 as a
 CSV file use | (no quotes) as the delimited, you will also see that
 Legacy
 uses {/n} as line feed/carriage return.

 If you hit any problems please do come back and I will happily take
 you
 through the process, probably not today - as it is now my tomorrow!

 Ron Ferguson
 _

 *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google