Re: [LegacyUG] Two Sets of Parents in Legacy Chart
All suggestions are reviewed but not all suggestions are implemented. Most suggestions never get a response beyond the original confirmation that it was received. Since the release of Legacy v8, I have seen well over 300 suggestions come in We've received thousands of suggestions over the years I've worked for Legacy. Many of them have become part of Legacy. I remember many of the suggestions that have crossed my desk. To be honest, I don't recall that one coming in. If you have more than one idea, please submit separate suggestion forms. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Robert57P_gmail robert...@gmail.com wrote: I have that same situation. We raised our nieces via guardianship, so they show up under us and under their birth/natural parents. I submitted an enhancement request asking that Legacy offer an OPTION of different colored connection lines (both for inside the program and for the various different charts). But it seems to be low on their priority list or not do-able. I never heard anything back from them, but I would not expect to hear anything back anyway. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Two Sets of Parents in Legacy Chart
Great idea, Cathy! Thanks! Chick On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote: Currently not automatically but you can add a textbox from the Insert Ribbon and put it in that. Cathy At 01:51 AM 11/01/2014, you wrote: Thanks Brian, but it just seems confusing to see the same person on a chart in two different families without any explanation. Is there some way to indicate adoption on the chart? On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Brian/Support mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.combr...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: If they are correctly connected to two families they and their spouses if any will always appear twice in the chart to reflect the fact that they belong to two families. You can suppress duplication of their descendants by turning off the show duplicates on the Home tab of the chart. With that option the second occurrence will have the wording (duplicated) in the box. Font options for that are on the appearance tab. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.combr...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 09-Jan-2014 10:05 PM, Chick Lewis wrote: I have a case where two children, Ann and Mark lost both parents in an accident. Both were adopted by their mother‬™s sister.  The children are shown biologically with their birth parents, and I also show them as adopted by their aunt and uncle.  This is easily explained in notes.  BUT, in Legacy Charting both children appear twice under two sets of parents.  How can I correct this? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Two Sets of Parents in Legacy Chart
Nice idea, Bob, but I can see many complications and confusion with implementation, especially with one biological parent and one guardian or adopted. However, I do like Cathy's suggestion to use the insert text feature to indicate adoption. In fact, I am going to use that feature to replace the word duplicated with adopted Chick On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Robert57P_gmail robert...@gmail.comwrote: I have that same situation. We raised our nieces via guardianship, so they show up under us and under their birth/natural parents. I submitted an enhancement request asking that Legacy offer an OPTION of different colored connection lines (both for inside the program and for the various different charts). But it seems to be low on their priority list or not do-able. I never heard anything back from them, but I would not expect to hear anything back anyway. Here's what I suggested back in late 2011: I tried to submit this via Legacy's Suggest a new feature screen on the Legacy Home tab in the program, but I'm not sure if it made it. I got a suggestion confirmed msg, but on that same screen it had a web address and a GO button that made it look like I needed to click that GO button to actually submit the suggestion. However, whenever I clicked the GO button it said I had entered an invalid name and invalid e-mail. (FYI - I submitted it under my primary e-mail address, I did not use the same e-mail address I use on forums like this.) Here's my suggestion: It would be REALLY great if you could change some of the charts/reports/displays so they indicated blood-line vs non-blood line as an option. To some people this is not important, but to some this could be a big plus and a good selling point for Legacy. You could even have it where this was only available in the Deluxe Edition to encourage sales. It is important to note that this should involve: * No change to underlying database structure * No new fields * No change to GEDCOM It would make use of existing information already defined in the database. It would use the “Relationship to Father†and “Relationship to Mother†fields, and maybe also DNA fields. It would only impact charts/reports that show connecting lines. * No impact on reports like family group record report, Individual report, book reports, etc * It would impact Descendant chart, Pedigree chart, Ancestor chart, Lineage chart, etc. * It would impact Pedigree DISPLAY * It would impact all(?) items under Legacy Charting For me, I would think 2 connector line types would suffice (blood-line or not blood-line), but I can see where some folks might like up to 4 line types: * Red or solid = bloodline * Green or long dash = legal document/court document (adopted, guardian, etc) * Blue or short dash = no legal/court document (raised by relative or friend per family agreement) * Black or dotted (optional?) = not specified or conflict or unclear (conflict between DNA and Relationship fields, user created their own custom item in Relationship field, etc) Along with this change, there should be another change to the program when adding a new child or parent (you may want to make this change user-optional). The “child status†and the two “Relationship†fields should either display right on the “Information†window, or the “Children’s Settings†window should automatically pop up once the “Information†window is closed (just like the Marriage window auto-pops up when you add a spouse). Or maybe the “children’s settings†window should display alongside the “Information†window at the same time. I would prefer the fields automatically display on the “Information†window , but I’m not sure how you would do this without confusion. Maybe since you change the “Information†window’s title based on how it is opened, you should be able to use that similar code to modify the window field names. For example, a section on the “Information†window would pull the names from the fields and say something like: “John’s (child’s) relationship to Sam (father):†and John's (child's) relationship to Suzy (mother): (obviously the names and the “father†or “mother†info would change based on how it was pulled up). And “John’s (child’s) status:†. These fields would not show up if you were adding a new unlinked individual. Thank you for considering this change. Bob Patton On 01/10/2014 12:51, Chick Lewis wrote: Thanks Brian, but it just seems confusing to see the same person on a chart in two different families without any explanation. Is there some way to indicate adoption on the chart? On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: If they are correctly connected to two families they and their spouses if any will always appear twice in the chart to reflect the fact that they belong to two families. You can suppress
Re: [LegacyUG] Two Sets of Parents in Legacy Chart
Thanks Brian, but it just seems confusing to see the same person on a chart in two different families without any explanation. Is there some way to indicate adoption on the chart? On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.comwrote: If they are correctly connected to two families they and their spouses if any will always appear twice in the chart to reflect the fact that they belong to two families. You can suppress duplication of their descendants by turning off the show duplicates on the Home tab of the chart. With that option the second occurrence will have the wording (duplicated) in the box. Font options for that are on the appearance tab. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 09-Jan-2014 10:05 PM, Chick Lewis wrote: I have a case where two children, Ann and Mark lost both parents in an accident. Both were adopted by their mother’s sister. The children are shown biologically with their birth parents, and I also show them as adopted by their aunt and uncle. This is easily explained in notes. BUT, in Legacy Charting both children appear twice under two sets of parents. How can I correct this? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Two Sets of Parents in Legacy Chart
Currently not automatically but you can add a textbox from the Insert Ribbon and put it in that. Cathy At 01:51 AM 11/01/2014, you wrote: Thanks Brian, but it just seems confusing to see the same person on a chart in two different families without any explanation. Is there some way to indicate adoption on the chart? On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Brian/Support mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.combr...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: If they are correctly connected to two families they and their spouses if any will always appear twice in the chart to reflect the fact that they belong to two families. You can suppress duplication of their descendants by turning off the show duplicates on the Home tab of the chart. With that option the second occurrence will have the wording (duplicated) in the box. Font options for that are on the appearance tab. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.combr...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 09-Jan-2014 10:05 PM, Chick Lewis wrote: I have a case where two children, Ann and Mark lost both parents in an accident. Both were adopted by their motherâ¬s sister.  The children are shown biologically with their birth parents, and I also show them as adopted by their aunt and uncle.  This is easily explained in notes.  BUT, in Legacy Charting both children appear twice under two sets of parents.  How can I correct this? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Two Sets of Parents in Legacy Chart
I have that same situation. We raised our nieces via guardianship, so they show up under us and under their birth/natural parents. I submitted an enhancement request asking that Legacy offer an OPTION of different colored connection lines (both for inside the program and for the various different charts). But it seems to be low on their priority list or not do-able. I never heard anything back from them, but I would not expect to hear anything back anyway. Here's what I suggested back in late 2011: I tried to submit this via Legacy's Suggest a new feature screen on the Legacy Home tab in the program, but I'm not sure if it made it. I got a suggestion confirmed msg, but on that same screen it had a web address and a GO button that made it look like I needed to click that GO button to actually submit the suggestion. However, whenever I clicked the GO button it said I had entered an invalid name and invalid e-mail. (FYI - I submitted it under my primary e-mail address, I did not use the same e-mail address I use on forums like this.) Here's my suggestion: It would be REALLY great if you could change some of the charts/reports/displays so they indicated blood-line vs non-blood line as an option. To some people this is not important, but to some this could be a big plus and a good selling point for Legacy. You could even have it where this was only available in the Deluxe Edition to encourage sales. It is important to note that this should involve: * No change to underlying database structure * No new fields * No change to GEDCOM It would make use of existing information already defined in the database. It would use the “Relationship to Father†and “Relationship to Mother†fields, and maybe also DNA fields. It would only impact charts/reports that show connecting lines. * No impact on reports like family group record report, Individual report, book reports, etc * It would impact Descendant chart, Pedigree chart, Ancestor chart, Lineage chart, etc. * It would impact Pedigree DISPLAY * It would impact all(?) items under Legacy Charting For me, I would think 2 connector line types would suffice (blood-line or not blood-line), but I can see where some folks might like up to 4 line types: * Red or solid = bloodline * Green or long dash = legal document/court document (adopted, guardian, etc) * Blue or short dash = no legal/court document (raised by relative or friend per family agreement) * Black or dotted (optional?) = not specified or conflict or unclear (conflict between DNA and Relationship fields, user created their own custom item in Relationship field, etc) Along with this change, there should be another change to the program when adding a new child or parent (you may want to make this change user-optional). The “child status†and the two “Relationship†fields should either display right on the “Information†window, or the “Children’s Settings†window should automatically pop up once the “Information†window is closed (just like the Marriage window auto-pops up when you add a spouse). Or maybe the “children’s settings†window should display alongside the “Information†window at the same time. I would prefer the fields automatically display on the “Informationâ€window , but I’m not sure how you would do this without confusion. Maybe since you change the “Information†window’s title based on how it is opened, you should be able to use that similar code to modify the window field names. For example, a section on the “Information†window would pull the names from the fields and say something like: “John’s (child’s) relationship to Sam (father):†and John's (child's) relationship to Suzy (mother): (obviously the names and the “father†or “mother†info would change based on how it was pulled up). And “John’s (child’s) status:â€. These fields would not show up if you were adding a new unlinked individual. Thank you for considering this change. Bob Patton On 01/10/2014 12:51, Chick Lewis wrote: Thanks Brian, but it just seems confusing to see the same person on a chart in two different families without any explanation.Is there some way to indicate adoption on the chart? On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: If they are correctly connected to two families they and their spouses if any will always appear twice in the chart to reflect the fact that they belong to two families. You can suppress duplication of their descendants by turning off the show duplicates on the Home tab of the chart. With that option the second occurrence will have the wording (duplicated) in the box. Font options for that are on the appearance tab. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 09-Jan-2014
[LegacyUG] Two Sets of Parents in Legacy Chart
I have a case where two children, Ann and Mark lost both parents in an accident. Both were adopted by their mother’s sister. The children are shown biologicaly with their birth parents, and I also show them as adopted by their aunt and uncle. This is easily explained in notes. BUT, in Legacy Charting both children appear twice under two sets of parents. How can I correct this? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
