Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

2012-04-26 Thread R G Strong-genes
Tony,
The Gedcom is only used to build the tables for the database. Then you can
delete the gedcom from your site. You can configure the site to not allow
gedcoms.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

I looked at TNG some time ago, but I have one serious problem with it.
I will not put my GedCOM file on the net again.

There have been two cases where folk have downloaded my Gedcom and
posted it on their own site (one as their tree on Ancestry and one on
another site). In both cases they didn't bother changing anything, so I
am still person #1, my wife #2 etc. Makes it pretty obvious what
happened. Neither has had the courtesy to credit me with the work.  More
importantly, they don't credit the people who helped me and I find that
most annoying.

I did have a PHP version in my site but that is now gone.

Those sites are now WAY out of date, but I'm not going to go there again.

Cheers

Tony





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[LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

2012-04-26 Thread Tony Rolfe
I looked at TNG some time ago, but I have one serious problem with it.
I will not put my GedCOM file on the net again.

There have been two cases where folk have downloaded my Gedcom and
posted it on their own site (one as their tree on Ancestry and one on
another site). In both cases they didn't bother changing anything, so I
am still person #1, my wife #2 etc. Makes it pretty obvious what
happened. Neither has had the courtesy to credit me with the work.  More
importantly, they don't credit the people who helped me and I find that
most annoying.

I did have a PHP version in my site but that is now gone.

Those sites are now WAY out of date, but I'm not going to go there again.

Cheers

Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

2012-04-26 Thread R G Strong-genes
Tony,
Have you looked at TNG: The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilding? This
is the link: http://lythgoes.net/genealogy/software.php and you can see it
in use on my website, the link is in my signature line. It will read your
GEDCOM file and it dynamically creates your pages.

Russell G. Strong
P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy
program can be downloaded FREE at
http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133&Click=1114
Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!.
Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com .

-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 11:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

I'm not looking to do it inside Legacy.  I was hoping there was a
program external to Legacy which would read the Legacy DB and produce
the web pages.  All the info is there in the DB, it just needs
extracting and turning into HTML.  There are, I believe, a number of
programs which can read the Legacy DB and do clever stuff with it.

I guess there isn't one for this, so I'll forget it.

Cheers

Tony





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[LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

2012-04-25 Thread Tony Rolfe
I'm not looking to do it inside Legacy.  I was hoping there was a
program external to Legacy which would read the Legacy DB and produce
the web pages.  All the info is there in the DB, it just needs
extracting and turning into HTML.  There are, I believe, a number of
programs which can read the Legacy DB and do clever stuff with it.

I guess there isn't one for this, so I'll forget it.

Cheers

Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

2012-04-25 Thread Wm Voss
Okay, got it. Good luck. You are describing an entirely new and quite
sophisticated program. I doubt, given the manner in which Legacy stores
and structures its data, that it could work with an existing family
file. It might be done, but would require a huge amount of additional
manual work to populate and format the basic pages. Not a chance it
could be done within Legacy -- it can't handle a simple internal
hyperlink to another individual and that's been asked for since version 2.

Wm Voss

On 25-Apr-12 7:08 PM, Tony Rolfe wrote:
> It's easier to visualise what I want than to describe it, but...
>
> There are three parts.
>
> 1.  Each location should have its own web page giving
> a) The co-ordinates, so you can link to the mapping program,
> b) A list of everyone who uses that location and how they use it,
> hyperlinked to the person's page
> c) Notes about that location taken from the Location notes
> d) Optionally, pictures for that location
> e) If this location also has sub-entries, these should listed as hyperlinks.
>
> 2.  Each reference to a location in the main report should be a
> hyperlink to that location's page.  So, if if John Smith's web page says
> he was born in Sutton, Surrey, England, then that should be a hyperlink
> to the "Sutton, Surrey, England" web page.
>
> 3.  There should be an index to locations.  Rather than a continuous
> stream of location names, the first page should be a list of countries.
>Each of these would be a hyperlink to the second-level (State) entries
> for that country.  Each of these would be a hyperlink to the third-level
> (County) entries for that "State" and so on, until you get to an actual
> Location.
>
> Let's assume there is a location entry for Marion County, Ohio, United
> States, because you don't have the town name for some event.  There are
> also entries for a number of towns or cities in Marion county.  (I don't
> know if there is a Marion County, Ohio - this is just an example)
>
> Then you would have a main page for Marion county and one main page for
> each town or city.  The county page would have the information for the
> county, plus hyperlinks to each town or city.
>
> Each Town or city page would have the info for that town, plus
> hyperlinks to any sub-entries for that town if, like me, you go beyond 4
> levels.
>
> So, each page is both an information page and an index page to the
> immediately lower level entries.
>
> The Level-zero index would have a hyperlinked entry for United States
> (and for all other Countries).  There would be a level-one index page
> for United States which would have hyper-linked entries for each state
> (including Ohio).  The Ohio entry would have the info for Ohio, plus
> hyperlinks to all counties in Ohio (including Marion).
>
> I hope that makes it clear
>
> Thanks
>
> Tony
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

2012-04-25 Thread Tony Rolfe
It's easier to visualise what I want than to describe it, but...

There are three parts.

1.  Each location should have its own web page giving
a) The co-ordinates, so you can link to the mapping program,
b) A list of everyone who uses that location and how they use it,
hyperlinked to the person's page
c) Notes about that location taken from the Location notes
d) Optionally, pictures for that location
e) If this location also has sub-entries, these should listed as hyperlinks.

2.  Each reference to a location in the main report should be a
hyperlink to that location's page.  So, if if John Smith's web page says
he was born in Sutton, Surrey, England, then that should be a hyperlink
to the "Sutton, Surrey, England" web page.

3.  There should be an index to locations.  Rather than a continuous
stream of location names, the first page should be a list of countries.
  Each of these would be a hyperlink to the second-level (State) entries
for that country.  Each of these would be a hyperlink to the third-level
(County) entries for that "State" and so on, until you get to an actual
Location.

Let's assume there is a location entry for Marion County, Ohio, United
States, because you don't have the town name for some event.  There are
also entries for a number of towns or cities in Marion county.  (I don't
know if there is a Marion County, Ohio - this is just an example)

Then you would have a main page for Marion county and one main page for
each town or city.  The county page would have the information for the
county, plus hyperlinks to each town or city.

Each Town or city page would have the info for that town, plus
hyperlinks to any sub-entries for that town if, like me, you go beyond 4
levels.

So, each page is both an information page and an index page to the
immediately lower level entries.

The Level-zero index would have a hyperlinked entry for United States
(and for all other Countries).  There would be a level-one index page
for United States which would have hyper-linked entries for each state
(including Ohio).  The Ohio entry would have the info for Ohio, plus
hyperlinks to all counties in Ohio (including Marion).

I hope that makes it clear

Thanks

Tony



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Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

2012-04-25 Thread Wm Voss
I am afraid I do not understand what you want. An index of all
locations, with a step down to all instances when it is mentioned? I
have a basic version of silversmiths sorted by location, based on their
working and partnership events:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~silversmiths/makers/SmithsByState_mod.htm

Is this what you were thinking of? If so, it can be done with LTools,
Excel, and a good text editor. You will also need a good knowledge of
html coding and several days free time. And this is for a simple segment
of the whole file based on a selective criteria. To do the whole file
for all in\stances would be a daunting task.

Ron may be right that this would be better achieved by TNG or somesuch.
I don't know, as I find such programs a frustrating and unfulfiling dance.

Wm Voss

On 25-Apr-12 5:09 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Tony,
>
> Not to my knowledge, you need to use a GEDCOM, and from the mapping point of
> view I think the TNG is probably the best.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Rolfe
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:43 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Web pages for locations
>
> My web site is built by running a pedigree report for all people in the
> database with myself as the target person.
>
> What I would really like is to produce a locations index, so that each
> location mentioned in the main report is a hyperlink to that location's
> web page.  Also, to have a nested index with each level in the index
> corresponding to a level in the location.
>
> I'm pretty sure I can't do this with Legacy on its own, but is there a
> program which can read the Legacy database and produce web pages?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

2012-04-25 Thread Ron Ferguson
Tony,

Not to my knowledge, you need to use a GEDCOM, and from the mapping point of
view I think the TNG is probably the best.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:43 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

My web site is built by running a pedigree report for all people in the
database with myself as the target person.

What I would really like is to produce a locations index, so that each
location mentioned in the main report is a hyperlink to that location's
web page.  Also, to have a nested index with each level in the index
corresponding to a level in the location.

I'm pretty sure I can't do this with Legacy on its own, but is there a
program which can read the Legacy database and produce web pages?

Thanks

Tony




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[LegacyUG] Web pages for locations

2012-04-25 Thread Tony Rolfe
My web site is built by running a pedigree report for all people in the
database with myself as the target person.

What I would really like is to produce a locations index, so that each
location mentioned in the main report is a hyperlink to that location's
web page.  Also, to have a nested index with each level in the index
corresponding to a level in the location.

I'm pretty sure I can't do this with Legacy on its own, but is there a
program which can read the Legacy database and produce web pages?

Thanks

Tony



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