Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
On 12/02/2015 23:23, Gerald E Boor wrote: > Carl, while most of us do goof, at least occasionally, I don't > think it is routine any longer to always give a warning for our > error. Most users don't want what they consider an unnecessary > warning. However, it might be ok if it can simply be turned off in > the preferences. I think that's probably the best answer. I've turned most of the reminders/prompts off except for a couple I feel I might benefit from. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
Thank you, Pierre. I agree. - Original Message - From: "Pierre Simoneau" To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:39:39 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug Let's end this discussion. I know Cancel is Cancel and Save is Save and Narrow Minded is Narrow Minded. De : MikeFry À : legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Envoyé le : jeudi 12 février 2015 16h46 Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug On 2015/02/12 10:08 PM, Paul Gray wrote: > My vote is that 'Cancel" should close the window and not save any data. To > me, clicking 'Cancel' is the opposite of 'Save' and the user has indicated > their intention. Don't forget the keyboard. The ESC key should also cancel a window. -- Regards, Mike Fry (Jhb) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook ( http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree ) and on our blog ( http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
Carl, while most of us do goof, at least occasionally, I don't think it is routine any longer to always give a warning for our error. Most users don't want what they consider an unnecessary warning. However, it might be ok if it can simply be turned off in the preferences. You will probably just have to live with how this works. Jerry On February 12, 2015, at 18:01, Carl Cox wrote: >If I could always remember what I am doing, and not do anything by reflex, I >would agree. However, I occasionally find myself hitting a key without >thinking. In those cases a reminder is very useful, and I greatly appreciate >those chances to rethink and do what I really wanted without having to >retype something. I don't live in a perfect world and am not perfect. >Carl >> My vote is that 'Cancel" should close the window and not save any data. To >> me, clicking 'Cancel' is the opposite of 'Save' and the user has indicated >> their intention. >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
Let's end this discussion. I know Cancel is Cancel and Save is Save and Narrow Minded is Narrow Minded. De : MikeFry À : legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Envoyé le : jeudi 12 février 2015 16h46 Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug On 2015/02/12 10:08 PM, Paul Gray wrote: > My vote is that 'Cancel" should close the window and not save any data. To > me, clicking 'Cancel' is the opposite of 'Save' and the user has indicated > their intention. Don't forget the keyboard. The ESC key should also cancel a window. -- Regards, Mike Fry (Jhb) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
If I could always remember what I am doing, and not do anything by reflex, I would agree. However, I occasionally find myself hitting a key without thinking. In those cases a reminder is very useful, and I greatly appreciate those chances to rethink and do what I really wanted without having to retype something. I don't live in a perfect world and am not perfect. Carl > My vote is that 'Cancel" should close the window and not save any data. To > me, clicking 'Cancel' is the opposite of 'Save' and the user has indicated > their intention. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
On 2015/02/12 10:08 PM, Paul Gray wrote: > My vote is that 'Cancel" should close the window and not save any data. To > me, clicking 'Cancel' is the opposite of 'Save' and the user has indicated > their intention. Don't forget the keyboard. The ESC key should also cancel a window. -- Regards, Mike Fry (Jhb) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
I agree with Paul, it is working as designed and is the standard. A "Cancel" in any program will throw away any data that has NOT been saved. Why should Legacy be any different than any other program that offers a cancel? Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -Original Message- From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 12:09 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug Brian, Very interesting analysis! In the end, I think the only important thing is to figure out how V8 should behave, as 7.5 will not be changed. I think as much as possible, "Cancel" should operate consistently across all Legacy screens, same for pressing the red 'X'. What might be more difficult is for users to agree on what those standards should be. My vote is that 'Cancel" should close the window and not save any data. To me, clicking 'Cancel' is the opposite of 'Save' and the user has indicated their intention. I think there should be a warning message when clicking the red "X" as there is more possibility of that being 'accidental'. Just my two cents Paul Gray -Original Message- From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com] Sent: February-12-15 9:02 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug I just compared v7.5 to v8 and there ARE some striking inconsistencies. It also makes a difference whether you are entering MARRIAGE notes or INDIVIDUAL notes. Legacy is not consistent in how it handles either one. And then, it makes a difference whether you hit the CANCEL button or X-Out of the window. Once again, Legacy is not consistent in how it handles either one. For example, in v7.5, while entering either Individual general or Marriage notes, if you hit CANCEL after entering some text, you will get a warning about Abandoning Changes which is the way you'd expect or at least prefer a program to behave. However, if you just X-out after entering some text in v7.5, the window closes as expected without warning but the text is saved anyhow, something you'd not expect to happen. Using v8, while entering Individual General Notes, if you hit CANCEL, there is no warning about Abandoning Changes. The window closes and the text is lost. I suppose most would argue that is what CANCEL means but notice the Warning message prevalent in v7.5 is no longer brought up in v8. Entering text and then X-Out of the window will close the window and the text is lost without any warning. Also note that this is different than v7.5 in that the text is no longer saved. Using v8 and entering text in a Marriage window, if you hit CANCEL, you will get a warning about Abandoning Changes. If you just X-Out of the Marriage window in v8, its similar to v7.5 in that the window closes as expected without any additional warnings but the text is saved anyhow. It's almost as if 3 different programmers handled the code here: one for the Notes windows, a second for the CANCEL button, and a third for the X-Out gadget. But the bottom line is simple: if you enter any text and want to keep it, then hit the SAVE button which common sense dictates. Hitting any other button or gadget is a crap-shoot. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:58 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug On 2015/02/12 03:46 PM, Pierre Simoneau wrote: > In version 7.5 there was a warning. > I get the warning in 8.0! -- Regards, Mike Fry (Jhb) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4284/9101 - Release Date: 02/12/15 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archi
RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
Brian, Very interesting analysis! In the end, I think the only important thing is to figure out how V8 should behave, as 7.5 will not be changed. I think as much as possible, "Cancel" should operate consistently across all Legacy screens, same for pressing the red 'X'. What might be more difficult is for users to agree on what those standards should be. My vote is that 'Cancel" should close the window and not save any data. To me, clicking 'Cancel' is the opposite of 'Save' and the user has indicated their intention. I think there should be a warning message when clicking the red "X" as there is more possibility of that being 'accidental'. Just my two cents Paul Gray -Original Message- From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com] Sent: February-12-15 9:02 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug I just compared v7.5 to v8 and there ARE some striking inconsistencies. It also makes a difference whether you are entering MARRIAGE notes or INDIVIDUAL notes. Legacy is not consistent in how it handles either one. And then, it makes a difference whether you hit the CANCEL button or X-Out of the window. Once again, Legacy is not consistent in how it handles either one. For example, in v7.5, while entering either Individual general or Marriage notes, if you hit CANCEL after entering some text, you will get a warning about Abandoning Changes which is the way you'd expect or at least prefer a program to behave. However, if you just X-out after entering some text in v7.5, the window closes as expected without warning but the text is saved anyhow, something you'd not expect to happen. Using v8, while entering Individual General Notes, if you hit CANCEL, there is no warning about Abandoning Changes. The window closes and the text is lost. I suppose most would argue that is what CANCEL means but notice the Warning message prevalent in v7.5 is no longer brought up in v8. Entering text and then X-Out of the window will close the window and the text is lost without any warning. Also note that this is different than v7.5 in that the text is no longer saved. Using v8 and entering text in a Marriage window, if you hit CANCEL, you will get a warning about Abandoning Changes. If you just X-Out of the Marriage window in v8, its similar to v7.5 in that the window closes as expected without any additional warnings but the text is saved anyhow. It's almost as if 3 different programmers handled the code here: one for the Notes windows, a second for the CANCEL button, and a third for the X-Out gadget. But the bottom line is simple: if you enter any text and want to keep it, then hit the SAVE button which common sense dictates. Hitting any other button or gadget is a crap-shoot. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:58 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug On 2015/02/12 03:46 PM, Pierre Simoneau wrote: > In version 7.5 there was a warning. > I get the warning in 8.0! -- Regards, Mike Fry (Jhb) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4284/9101 - Release Date: 02/12/15 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
Don't let the grumpy ones put you off. There are plenty of genuinely helpful people in this group. I understand often when users writes these requests we have reached a moment of frustration and the wording reflexes this (been there, done that). We all need calming down sometimes. Appreciate the helpful responses and let go of the mean ones. Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:49:09 + From: pierre6simon...@yahoo.ca To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug On peut se passer d'un tel commentaire. Merci. Je passe à un autre logiciel. Je veux qu'on m'aide non pas me suggérer d'aller voir ailleurs. De : Ron Bernier À : legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Envoyé le : jeudi 12 février 2015 8h22 Objet : RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug You are saying that when you close out (X Out) of a note without saving, you lose any information that you entered. Even though you know this is how it works, you do it anyway. So, how is this Legacy’s fault rather than your failure to properly save your work? I love it when folks issue idle “threats”. If you think that RootsMagic is a better product than Legacy, why not just switch rather than making a public statement that you are looking at another product. Ron BernierWoonsocket, RI From: Pierre Simoneau [mailto:pierre6simon...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:04 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug If I put a word in Bold or Italic, it adds two or more spaces before and after the word. Plus, for over a year, when you leave General Notes with Cancel (Without saving), there is no warning if I quit I loose notes added. I have submitted this bug for over a year. It is about time to correct this bug. I'm back at ve rsion 7.5 whick is trustable. I'm looking to RootsMagic. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
Thank you for the information. I just checked notes on several people and all are blank. Using v8 and x'd out rather than save. On Thu, 2/12/15, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote: Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Thursday, February 12, 2015, 10:02 AM I just compared v7.5 to v8 and there ARE some striking inconsistencies. It also makes a difference whether you are entering MARRIAGE notes or INDIVIDUAL notes. Legacy is not consistent in how it handles either one. And then, it makes a difference whether you hit the CANCEL button or X-Out of the window. Once again, Legacy is not consistent in how it handles either one. For example, in v7.5, while entering either Individual general or Marriage notes, if you hit CANCEL after entering some text, you will get a warning about Abandoning Changes which is the way you'd expect or at least prefer a program to behave. However, if you just X-out after entering some text in v7.5, the window closes as expected without warning but the text is saved anyhow, something you'd not expect to happen. Using v8, while entering Individual General Notes, if you hit CANCEL, there is no warning about Abandoning Changes. The window closes and the text is lost. I suppose most would argue that is what CANCEL means but notice the Warning message prevalent in v7.5 is no longer brought up in v8. Entering text and then X-Out of the window will close the window and the text is lost without any warning. Also note that this is different than v7.5 in that the text is no longer saved. Using v8 and entering text in a Marriage window, if you hit CANCEL, you will get a warning about Abandoning Changes. If you just X-Out of the Marriage window in v8, its similar to v7.5 in that the window closes as expected without any additional warnings but the text is saved anyhow. It's almost as if 3 different programmers handled the code here: one for the Notes windows, a second for the CANCEL button, and a third for the X-Out gadget. But the bottom line is simple: if you enter any text and want to keep it, then hit the SAVE button which common sense dictates. Hitting any other button or gadget is a crap-shoot. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:58 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug On 2015/02/12 03:46 PM, Pierre Simoneau wrote: > In version 7.5 there was a warning. > I get the warning in 8.0! -- Regards, Mike Fry (Jhb) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
I just compared v7.5 to v8 and there ARE some striking inconsistencies. It also makes a difference whether you are entering MARRIAGE notes or INDIVIDUAL notes. Legacy is not consistent in how it handles either one. And then, it makes a difference whether you hit the CANCEL button or X-Out of the window. Once again, Legacy is not consistent in how it handles either one. For example, in v7.5, while entering either Individual general or Marriage notes, if you hit CANCEL after entering some text, you will get a warning about Abandoning Changes which is the way you'd expect or at least prefer a program to behave. However, if you just X-out after entering some text in v7.5, the window closes as expected without warning but the text is saved anyhow, something you'd not expect to happen. Using v8, while entering Individual General Notes, if you hit CANCEL, there is no warning about Abandoning Changes. The window closes and the text is lost. I suppose most would argue that is what CANCEL means but notice the Warning message prevalent in v7.5 is no longer brought up in v8. Entering text and then X-Out of the window will close the window and the text is lost without any warning. Also note that this is different than v7.5 in that the text is no longer saved. Using v8 and entering text in a Marriage window, if you hit CANCEL, you will get a warning about Abandoning Changes. If you just X-Out of the Marriage window in v8, its similar to v7.5 in that the window closes as expected without any additional warnings but the text is saved anyhow. It's almost as if 3 different programmers handled the code here: one for the Notes windows, a second for the CANCEL button, and a third for the X-Out gadget. But the bottom line is simple: if you enter any text and want to keep it, then hit the SAVE button which common sense dictates. Hitting any other button or gadget is a crap-shoot. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:58 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug On 2015/02/12 03:46 PM, Pierre Simoneau wrote: > In version 7.5 there was a warning. > I get the warning in 8.0! -- Regards, Mike Fry (Jhb) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
On 2/12/2015 8:49 AM, Pierre Simoneau wrote: > On peut se passer d'un tel commentaire. Merci. Je passe à un autre logiciel. > Je veux qu'on m'aide non pas me suggérer d'aller voir ailleurs. au revoir -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
On peut se passer d'un tel commentaire. Merci. Je passe à un autre logiciel. Je veux qu'on m'aide non pas me suggérer d'aller voir ailleurs. De : Ron Bernier À : legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Envoyé le : jeudi 12 février 2015 8h22 Objet : RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug You are saying that when you close out (X Out) of a note without saving, you lose any information that you entered. Even though you know this is how it works, you do it anyway. So, how is this Legacy’s fault rather than your failure to properly save your work? I love it when folks issue idle “threats”. If you think that RootsMagic is a better product than Legacy, why not just switch rather than making a public statement that you are looking at another product. Ron BernierWoonsocket, RI From: Pierre Simoneau [mailto:pierre6simon...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:04 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug If I put a word in Bold or Italic, it adds two or more spaces before and after the word. Plus, for over a year, when you leave General Notes with Cancel (Without saving), there is no warning if I quit I loose notes added. I have submitted this bug for over a year. It is about time to correct this bug. I'm back at ve rsion 7.5 whick is trustable. I'm looking to RootsMagic. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
On 2/12/2015 7:04 AM, Pierre Simoneau wrote: > If I put a word in Bold or Italic, it adds two or more spaces before and > after the word. > > Plus, for over a year, when you leave General Notes with Cancel (Without > saving), there is no warning if I quit I loose notes added. I have submitted > this bug for over a year. It is about time to correct this bug. > > I'm back at version 7.5 whick is trustable. I'm looking to RootsMagic. > You can submit this as a BUG (it is not) until the cows come home. V7, as has been stated repeatedly, will have NO MORE UPDATES! Either upgrade to V8 or migrate to RootsMagic. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
On 2015/02/12 03:46 PM, Pierre Simoneau wrote: > In version 7.5 there was a warning. > I get the warning in 8.0! -- Regards, Mike Fry (Jhb) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
In version 7.5 there was a warning. De : Jess À : legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Envoyé le : jeudi 12 février 2015 8h28 Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug Canceling from a screen is an implied "without saving" by virtue of the definition of the word cancel. This isn't a bug in the program, rather a flaw in your process. If you want to save data in a notes screen, use the save button, not cancel. Jessica Morgan On Feb 12, 2015, at 6:04 AM, Pierre Simoneau wrote: If I put a word in Bold or Italic, it adds two or more spaces before and after the word. Plus, for over a year, when you leave General Notes with Cancel (Without saving), there is no warning if I quit I loose notes added. I have submitted this bug for over a year. It is about time to correct this bug. I'm back at version 7.5 whick is trustable. I'm looking to RootsMagic. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
Canceling from a screen is an implied "without saving" by virtue of the definition of the word cancel. This isn't a bug in the program, rather a flaw in your process. If you want to save data in a notes screen, use the save button, not cancel. Jessica Morgan On Feb 12, 2015, at 6:04 AM, Pierre Simoneau wrote: If I put a word in Bold or Italic, it adds two or more spaces before and after the word. Plus, for over a year, when you leave General Notes with Cancel (Without saving), there is no warning if I quit I loose notes added. I have submitted this bug for over a year. It is about time to correct this bug. I'm back at version 7.5 whick is trustable. I'm looking to RootsMagic. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug
You are saying that when you close out (X Out) of a note without saving, you lose any information that you entered. Even though you know this is how it works, you do it anyway. So, how is this Legacy’s fault rather than your failure to properly save your work? I love it when folks issue idle “threats”. If you think that RootsMagic is a better product than Legacy, why not just switch rather than making a public statement that you are looking at another product. Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI From: Pierre Simoneau [mailto:pierre6simon...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:04 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug If I put a word in Bold or Italic, it adds two or more spaces before and after the word. Plus, for over a year, when you leave General Notes with Cancel (Without saving), there is no warning if I quit I loose notes added. I have submitted this bug for over a year. It is about time to correct this bug. I'm back at ve rsion 7.5 whick is trustable. I'm looking to RootsMagic. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
