Re: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage)
What a very interesting reply - thank you for sending it to Bob and us all - even though off topic. Cheers, Brett B McL Robinson, Hamilton, New Zealand On 17/07/2011 12:51 p.m., Jan Roberts wrote: > A Deed Poll is a legal document - not a certificate. It is a form of legal > contract but it differs from legal contracts between two or more parties in > that it only concerns one person (and it is only signed by that person in the > presence of a witness). A Deed Poll legally binds the person who signs it to > a particular course of action as detailed on the Deed Poll document. > > Although Deed Poll documents are used for various purposes relating to an > individual or a company legally committing themselves to doing something, > they have one generally accepted meaning, that is, a change of name. > However, the correct legal name for a deed that has been drawn up to change > someone's name is a Deed of Change of Name (but more commonly known as a Deed > Poll). > > A Deed Poll for a change of name contains three declarations and by executing > the Deed Poll (signing, dating and having your signing witnessed) you are > legally committing yourself to: > > Abandoning the use of your former name; > Using your new name only at all times; > Requiring all persons to address you by your new name only. > > Why is it called a Deed Poll? > > A deed is a written legal agreement that has been signed and delivered (shown > to all concerned parties). Poll is an old English word used to describe a > legal document that had its edges cut (polled) so they were straight. This > was done to visually distinguish between a deed signed by one person (a > polled deed - hence the term Deed Poll) and a deed signed by more than one > person (an indenture), which had an edge indented or serrated. > Interestingly, indentures were originally written twice (side by side) on one > piece of parchment, which was then torn down the middle and each half given > to each party. The impossibility of matching the tear was a guard against > forgery. > > Deed Poll documents for a change of name can be traced back to 1851 and can > be seen at the National Archives, which is situated at Kew in Richmond, > Surrey. > > From: http://www.ukdps.co.uk/WhatIsADeedPoll.html > > This is info from a UK site, but I am in Australia where the legal system is > based on the British. My Google research has shown that in America it might > be called Master Title Deed, yet I see that Bill Clinton's father changed his > name by Deed Poll from Blythe to Clinton. > (http://www.history.malc.eu/Deed-Poll-USA.event.html) > > Cheers > Jan > -Original Message----- > From: Bob Vary [mailto:oldcro...@optonline.net] > Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2011 10:19 > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) > > I may be going slightly off topic here, but what is a deed poll? I've never > heard the term before. I take it is has something to do with name changes? > Where are you located? It sounds British. > > Bob > > > -Original Message- > From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:59 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) > > My late first husband changed his name by deed poll - I only ever knew him by > his 'new' name. That became my surname when I married him, and is my > daughter's surname. I have entered him in Legacy under his 'new' name, with > appropriate notes and a Deed Poll event. But no, as far as I can see there > is no way to differentiate between the names in relation to time frames i.e. > before and after. I look at it like entering a woman by her maiden name > (only sort of in reverse) - one name is used throughout the report. > > Cheers > Jan > > -Original Message- > From: Robert E. Carneal [mailto:kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 8:01 > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) > > Not to open a can of worms, but I have a related question. This is not > a gender changing, but a gender-name changing. I.e. I have an ancestor > born as Mark Paul Carneal. He decided "Mark" was too common a name, so > he changed to a gender neutral name. He changed his name to Kelly > Jessie Carneal. Everyone who didn't know him assumed he was a girl! > > Now my question, is there a way to indicate a name change in Legacy so > that notes referring to him *before* his name change used Mark Paul, > but notes referring to him *after* his name change uses Kelly Jes
Re: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage)
Bob, A Deed Poll is an English/Welsh (I cannot speak for Scotland & Ireland) legal document by which a person changes their name, in particular their surname. At one time, except for marriage, it was the only legal method one could use, however today it is not essential. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Bob Vary Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 1:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) I may be going slightly off topic here, but what is a deed poll? I've never heard the term before. I take it is has something to do with name changes? Where are you located? It sounds British. Bob -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) My late first husband changed his name by deed poll - I only ever knew him by his 'new' name. That became my surname when I married him, and is my daughter's surname. I have entered him in Legacy under his 'new' name, with appropriate notes and a Deed Poll event. But no, as far as I can see there is no way to differentiate between the names in relation to time frames i.e. before and after. I look at it like entering a woman by her maiden name (only sort of in reverse) - one name is used throughout the report. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Robert E. Carneal [mailto:kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 8:01 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) Not to open a can of worms, but I have a related question. This is not a gender changing, but a gender-name changing. I.e. I have an ancestor born as Mark Paul Carneal. He decided "Mark" was too common a name, so he changed to a gender neutral name. He changed his name to Kelly Jessie Carneal. Everyone who didn't know him assumed he was a girl! Now my question, is there a way to indicate a name change in Legacy so that notes referring to him *before* his name change used Mark Paul, but notes referring to him *after* his name change uses Kelly Jessie? I doubt it, at least not one I could find. Anyone else? Thank you. Robert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage)
A Deed Poll is a legal document - not a certificate. It is a form of legal contract but it differs from legal contracts between two or more parties in that it only concerns one person (and it is only signed by that person in the presence of a witness). A Deed Poll legally binds the person who signs it to a particular course of action as detailed on the Deed Poll document. Although Deed Poll documents are used for various purposes relating to an individual or a company legally committing themselves to doing something, they have one generally accepted meaning, that is, a change of name. However, the correct legal name for a deed that has been drawn up to change someone's name is a Deed of Change of Name (but more commonly known as a Deed Poll). A Deed Poll for a change of name contains three declarations and by executing the Deed Poll (signing, dating and having your signing witnessed) you are legally committing yourself to: Abandoning the use of your former name; Using your new name only at all times; Requiring all persons to address you by your new name only. Why is it called a Deed Poll? A deed is a written legal agreement that has been signed and delivered (shown to all concerned parties). Poll is an old English word used to describe a legal document that had its edges cut (polled) so they were straight. This was done to visually distinguish between a deed signed by one person (a polled deed - hence the term Deed Poll) and a deed signed by more than one person (an indenture), which had an edge indented or serrated. Interestingly, indentures were originally written twice (side by side) on one piece of parchment, which was then torn down the middle and each half given to each party. The impossibility of matching the tear was a guard against forgery. Deed Poll documents for a change of name can be traced back to 1851 and can be seen at the National Archives, which is situated at Kew in Richmond, Surrey. From: http://www.ukdps.co.uk/WhatIsADeedPoll.html This is info from a UK site, but I am in Australia where the legal system is based on the British. My Google research has shown that in America it might be called Master Title Deed, yet I see that Bill Clinton's father changed his name by Deed Poll from Blythe to Clinton. (http://www.history.malc.eu/Deed-Poll-USA.event.html) Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Bob Vary [mailto:oldcro...@optonline.net] Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2011 10:19 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) I may be going slightly off topic here, but what is a deed poll? I've never heard the term before. I take it is has something to do with name changes? Where are you located? It sounds British. Bob -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) My late first husband changed his name by deed poll - I only ever knew him by his 'new' name. That became my surname when I married him, and is my daughter's surname. I have entered him in Legacy under his 'new' name, with appropriate notes and a Deed Poll event. But no, as far as I can see there is no way to differentiate between the names in relation to time frames i.e. before and after. I look at it like entering a woman by her maiden name (only sort of in reverse) - one name is used throughout the report. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Robert E. Carneal [mailto:kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 8:01 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) Not to open a can of worms, but I have a related question. This is not a gender changing, but a gender-name changing. I.e. I have an ancestor born as Mark Paul Carneal. He decided "Mark" was too common a name, so he changed to a gender neutral name. He changed his name to Kelly Jessie Carneal. Everyone who didn't know him assumed he was a girl! Now my question, is there a way to indicate a name change in Legacy so that notes referring to him *before* his name change used Mark Paul, but notes referring to him *after* his name change uses Kelly Jessie? I doubt it, at least not one I could find. Anyone else? Thank you. Robert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy
RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage)
I may be going slightly off topic here, but what is a deed poll? I've never heard the term before. I take it is has something to do with name changes? Where are you located? It sounds British. Bob -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) My late first husband changed his name by deed poll - I only ever knew him by his 'new' name. That became my surname when I married him, and is my daughter's surname. I have entered him in Legacy under his 'new' name, with appropriate notes and a Deed Poll event. But no, as far as I can see there is no way to differentiate between the names in relation to time frames i.e. before and after. I look at it like entering a woman by her maiden name (only sort of in reverse) - one name is used throughout the report. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Robert E. Carneal [mailto:kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 8:01 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) Not to open a can of worms, but I have a related question. This is not a gender changing, but a gender-name changing. I.e. I have an ancestor born as Mark Paul Carneal. He decided "Mark" was too common a name, so he changed to a gender neutral name. He changed his name to Kelly Jessie Carneal. Everyone who didn't know him assumed he was a girl! Now my question, is there a way to indicate a name change in Legacy so that notes referring to him *before* his name change used Mark Paul, but notes referring to him *after* his name change uses Kelly Jessie? I doubt it, at least not one I could find. Anyone else? Thank you. Robert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage)
Yes, I have also added an AKA - so the name change is well documented. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Linda French Dawson [mailto:texa...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 13:07 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) I am new to Legacy and the list but other programs use aka-also known as.i would use the most recent name as surname and then aka for birth name. Linda -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 7:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) My late first husband changed his name by deed poll - I only ever knew him by his 'new' name. That became my surname when I married him, and is my daughter's surname. I have entered him in Legacy under his 'new' name, with appropriate notes and a Deed Poll event. But no, as far as I can see there is no way to differentiate between the names in relation to time frames i.e. before and after. I look at it like entering a woman by her maiden name (only sort of in reverse) - one name is used throughout the report. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Robert E. Carneal [mailto:kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 8:01 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) Not to open a can of worms, but I have a related question. This is not a gender changing, but a gender-name changing. I.e. I have an ancestor born as Mark Paul Carneal. He decided "Mark" was too common a name, so he changed to a gender neutral name. He changed his name to Kelly Jessie Carneal. Everyone who didn't know him assumed he was a girl! Now my question, is there a way to indicate a name change in Legacy so that notes referring to him *before* his name change used Mark Paul, but notes referring to him *after* his name change uses Kelly Jessie? I doubt it, at least not one I could find. Anyone else? Thank you. Robert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage)
I am new to Legacy and the list but other programs use aka-also known as.i would use the most recent name as surname and then aka for birth name. Linda -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 7:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) My late first husband changed his name by deed poll - I only ever knew him by his 'new' name. That became my surname when I married him, and is my daughter's surname. I have entered him in Legacy under his 'new' name, with appropriate notes and a Deed Poll event. But no, as far as I can see there is no way to differentiate between the names in relation to time frames i.e. before and after. I look at it like entering a woman by her maiden name (only sort of in reverse) - one name is used throughout the report. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Robert E. Carneal [mailto:kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 8:01 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) Not to open a can of worms, but I have a related question. This is not a gender changing, but a gender-name changing. I.e. I have an ancestor born as Mark Paul Carneal. He decided "Mark" was too common a name, so he changed to a gender neutral name. He changed his name to Kelly Jessie Carneal. Everyone who didn't know him assumed he was a girl! Now my question, is there a way to indicate a name change in Legacy so that notes referring to him *before* his name change used Mark Paul, but notes referring to him *after* his name change uses Kelly Jessie? I doubt it, at least not one I could find. Anyone else? Thank you. Robert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage)
My late first husband changed his name by deed poll - I only ever knew him by his 'new' name. That became my surname when I married him, and is my daughter's surname. I have entered him in Legacy under his 'new' name, with appropriate notes and a Deed Poll event. But no, as far as I can see there is no way to differentiate between the names in relation to time frames i.e. before and after. I look at it like entering a woman by her maiden name (only sort of in reverse) - one name is used throughout the report. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Robert E. Carneal [mailto:kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 8:01 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) Not to open a can of worms, but I have a related question. This is not a gender changing, but a gender-name changing. I.e. I have an ancestor born as Mark Paul Carneal. He decided "Mark" was too common a name, so he changed to a gender neutral name. He changed his name to Kelly Jessie Carneal. Everyone who didn't know him assumed he was a girl! Now my question, is there a way to indicate a name change in Legacy so that notes referring to him *before* his name change used Mark Paul, but notes referring to him *after* his name change uses Kelly Jessie? I doubt it, at least not one I could find. Anyone else? Thank you. Robert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage)
I also have a similar situation, and I did basically the same as mentioned in the previous thread. Personally, I would record his Given Birth Name as shown on source documents. In my particular case, the ancestor had their Given Names changed legally, therefore, I created an event indicating this change, and included the detail in the Notes Section as necessary. Really, it depends on the situation, if the name was casually changed (on a casual basis), or casually used, then I would most likely record that as an AKA. I am sure others may do it differently, and will offer their suggestions as well. Charles -Original Message- From: Robert E. Carneal [mailto:kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 6:01 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Name Change (not by marriage) Not to open a can of worms, but I have a related question. This is not a gender changing, but a gender-name changing. I.e. I have an ancestor born as Mark Paul Carneal. He decided "Mark" was too common a name, so he changed to a gender neutral name. He changed his name to Kelly Jessie Carneal. Everyone who didn't know him assumed he was a girl! Now my question, is there a way to indicate a name change in Legacy so that notes referring to him *before* his name change used Mark Paul, but notes referring to him *after* his name change uses Kelly Jessie? I doubt it, at least not one I could find. Anyone else? Thank you. Robert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp