Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
Clarify for me please. Joshua's comment implies the church controls Legacy. I understand the people at Legacy (and some other gen software) are at least predominately church members but I thought the software was independent and not a church product. On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.comwrote: I think the reference to it not being included in version 8 is that version 8 is already nearing release and there is no time to make that change - not that legalities etc need to be dealt with perhaps in 8.5 or 9 we can hope On 17 August 2013 14:29, Joshua Levy joshua2l...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you sure about that? The church has shifted it's position on gays (they stopped objecting to gay scouts, for example). If you ask them again, they might approve it for 8.0. Joshua -- *From:* Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2013 5:56 PM *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? This may change in a future version of Legacy, but *not* version 8.0. Original Message From: Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? Legacy won't let you do a same sex marriage or partnership. This may change in a future version of Legacy, but *not* version 8.0. There is a work-around. Before you start, backup the family file. The first steps are exactly what you do when entering a straight couple. The change in sex is made in Microsoft Access. After adding the couple in Legacy (one will be male the other female), make note of their RIN numbers and close the program. Next open the file in Microsoft Access. Here are the steps: 1. Start MS Access. 2. Click on File and select Open. 3. Type *.fdb in the File name field at the bottom of the window and press Enter on the keyboard. Access will now see all files with a .fdb extension. 4. Browse to the directory where the family file is saved and open it. Change the gender of one of the partners: 5. Open the table named tblIR. 6. The IDIR field holds the RIN numbers. Use these to find an individual. 7. The Surname and GivenName fields are self-explanatory. 8. The Gender field holds the sex of the individual: Male = 0 and Female = 1. 9. Change the gender to be the same as his or her partner. 10. Save the file and close Microsoft Access Jim Legacy Family Tree Technical Support Original Message From: Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? I tried the Unknown and once I put them as married the marriage date it shows with a M on the left a W on the right. L Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.comhttp://news.legacyfamilytree.com/ ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.comhttp://news.legacyfamilytree.com/ ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
Cheryl, You are correct. Ron Ferguson Sent from my Xperia™ smartphone Cheryl Rothwell historysle...@gmail.com wrote: Clarify for me please. Joshua's comment implies the church controls Legacy. I understand the people at Legacy (and some other gen software) are at least predominately church members but I thought the software was independent and not a church product. On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.comwrote: I think the reference to it not being included in version 8 is that version 8 is already nearing release and there is no time to make that change - not that legalities etc need to be dealt with perhaps in 8.5 or 9 we can hope On 17 August 2013 14:29, Joshua Levy joshua2l...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you sure about that? The church has shifted it's position on gays (they stopped objecting to gay scouts, for example). If you ask them again, they might approve it for 8.0. Joshua -- *From:* Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2013 5:56 PM *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? This may change in a future version of Legacy, but *not* version 8.0. Original Message From: Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? Legacy won't let you do a same sex marriage or partnership. This may change in a future version of Legacy, but *not* version 8.0. There is a work-around. Before you start, backup the family file. The first steps are exactly what you do when entering a straight couple. The change in sex is made in Microsoft Access. After adding the couple in Legacy (one will be male the other female), make note of their RIN numbers and close the program. Next open the file in Microsoft Access. Here are the steps: 1. Start MS Access. 2. Click on File and select Open. 3. Type *.fdb in the File name field at the bottom of the window and press Enter on the keyboard. Access will now see all files with a .fdb extension. 4. Browse to the directory where the family file is saved and open it. Change the gender of one of the partners: 5. Open the table named tblIR. 6. The IDIR field holds the RIN numbers. Use these to find an individual. 7. The Surname and GivenName fields are self-explanatory. 8. The Gender field holds the sex of the individual: Male = 0 and Female = 1. 9. Change the gender to be the same as his or her partner. 10. Save the file and close Microsoft Access Jim Legacy Family Tree Technical Support Original Message From: Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? I tried the Unknown and once I put them as married the marriage date it shows with a M on the left a W on the right. L Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.comhttp://news.legacyfamilytree.com/ ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.comhttp://news.legacyfamilytree.com/ ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com
Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
That's correct Cheryl. Legacy is not owned nor controlled by the church. Not only would it require extensive re-writing of Legacy's code to allow same-sex relationships, there would also be a ripple effect that would affect several of the Legacy add-on programs made by other companies. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Cheryl Rothwell historysle...@gmail.com wrote: Clarify for me please. Joshua's comment implies the church controls Legacy. I understand the people at Legacy (and some other gen software) are at least predominately church members but I thought the software was independent and not a church product. On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote: I think the reference to it not being included in version 8 is that version 8 is already nearing release and there is no time to make that change - not that legalities etc need to be dealt with perhaps in 8.5 or 9 we can hope On 17 August 2013 14:29, Joshua Levy joshua2l...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you sure about that? The church has shifted it's position on gays (they stopped objecting to gay scouts, for example). If you ask them again, they might approve it for 8.0. Joshua Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
As with any company, the personal values and religious beliefs of the owners influence how the company operates. It is Legacy’s prerogative to not have same sex marriages within the program. If this is a problem for anyone then they can use another software program that doesn’t have this limitation. Michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
Cheryl, What you understand is correct. Legacy (Millennia) is a private company. The owners' beliefs may determine the direction that the software takes, but contrary to Joshua's comment(s) the Church does not control the content of Legacy. Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Cheryl Rothwell historysle...@gmail.com wrote: Clarify for me please. Joshua's comment implies the church controls Legacy. I understand the people at Legacy (and some other gen software) are at least predominately church members but I thought the software was independent and not a church product. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
Interesting thread. I have requested this feature for some time and realize the programming implications described by Sherry. I am not LDS, however, I believe any genealogy program that does not tie in closely to LDS de facto standards and programs is self-limiting. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Ronald Bernier ronaldbern...@icloud.comwrote: Cheryl, What you understand is correct. Legacy (Millennia) is a private company. The owners' beliefs may determine the direction that the software takes, but contrary to Joshua's comment(s) the Church does not control the content of Legacy. Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Cheryl Rothwell historysle...@gmail.com wrote: Clarify for me please. Joshua's comment implies the church controls Legacy. I understand the people at Legacy (and some other gen software) are at least predominately church members but I thought the software was independent and not a church product. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
Joshua Levy wrote: Are you sure about that? The church /WHICH/ Church, please? There are several, after all. Cheryl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
LDS aka Mormon Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 8:09 AM, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote: Joshua Levy wrote: Are you sure about that? The church /WHICH/ Church, please? There are several, after all. Cheryl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
Ah. Merci. Cheryl Sherry/Support wrote: LDS aka Mormon Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 8:09 AM, singhalssingh...@erols.com wrote: Joshua Levy wrote: Are you sure about that? The church /WHICH/ Church, please? There are several, after all. Cheryl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
I got around the gender selection issue for a same gender relationship by adding the spouse as an unattached individual to start with, then after entering name and gender and saving them, I attached him to his spouse. Hope that helps On 17/08/2013, at 8:21 AM, Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com wrote: I have a same Gender marriage I am trying to enter and I changed “Husband” to Spouse but Legacy will not let me select “F” for Female. It is greyed out and the “M” is selected. Is there a way to correctly enter same gender marriages? If not is that going to be one of the improvements on the 8.0 that will be coming out? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
Here's a thought as a stop gap. Can you mark both genders as unknown and add the actual gender in notes? Not ideal, but it should solve the problem in the short run. My two cents for what they're worth... Maureen Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote: I got around the gender selection issue for a same gender relationship by adding the spouse as an unattached individual to start with, then after entering name and gender and saving them, I attached him to his spouse. Hope that helps On 17/08/2013, at 8:21 AM, Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com wrote: I have a same Gender marriage I am trying to enter and I changed “Husband” to Spouse but Legacy will not let me select “F” for Female. It is greyed out and the “M” is selected. Is there a way to correctly enter same gender marriages? If not is that going to be one of the improvements on the 8.0 that will be coming out? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
I just tried that; I get the message “You can’t link a Female as a Husband” that is even with “Spouse” in place of the word husband. From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 3:26 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? I got around the gender selection issue for a same gender relationship by adding the spouse as an unattached individual to start with, then after entering name and gender and saving them, I attached him to his spouse. Hope that helps On 17/08/2013, at 8:21 AM, Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com wrote: I have a same Gender marriage I am trying to enter and I changed “Husband” to Spouse but Legacy will not let me select “F” for Female. It is greyed out and the “M” is selected. Is there a way to correctly enter same gender marriages? If not is that going to be one of the improvements on the 8.0 that will be coming out? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
I tried the “Unknown” and once I put them as married the marriage date it shows with a “M” on the left a “W” on the right. L From: Maureen Lake [mailto:arespo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 3:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? Here's a thought as a stop gap. Can you mark both genders as unknown and add the actual gender in notes? Not ideal, but it should solve the problem in the short run. My two cents for what they're worth... Maureen Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com wrote: I got around the gender selection issue for a same gender relationship by adding the spouse as an unattached individual to start with, then after entering name and gender and saving them, I attached him to his spouse. Hope that helps On 17/08/2013, at 8:21 AM, Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com wrote: I have a same Gender marriage I am trying to enter and I changed “Husband” to Spouse but Legacy will not let me select “F” for Female. It is greyed out and the “M” is selected. Is there a way to correctly enter same gender marriages? If not is that going to be one of the improvements on the 8.0 that will be coming out? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
Legacy won't let you do a same sex marriage or partnership. This may change in a future version of Legacy, but version 8.0. There is a work-around. Before you start, backup the family file. The first steps are exactly what you do when entering a straight couple. The change in sex is made in Microsoft Access. After adding the couple in Legacy (one will be male the other female), make note of their RIN numbers and close the program. Next open the file in Microsoft Access. Here are the steps: 1. Start MS Access. 2. Click on File and select Open. 3. Type *.fdb in the File name field at the bottom of the window and press Enter on the keyboard. Access will now see all files with a .fdb extension. 4. Browse to the directory where the family file is saved and open it. Change the gender of one of the partners: 5. Open the table named tblIR. 6. The IDIR field holds the RIN numbers. Use these to find an individual. 7. The Surname and GivenName fields are self-explanatory. 8. The Gender field holds the sex of the individual: Male = 0 and Female = 1. 9. Change the gender to be the same as his or her partner. 10. Save the file and close Microsoft Access Jim Legacy Family Tree Technical Support Original Message From: Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? I tried the Unknown and once I put them as married the marriage date it shows with a M on the left a W on the right. L Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
This may change in a future version of Legacy, but *not* version 8.0. Original Message From: Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? Legacy won't let you do a same sex marriage or partnership. This may change in a future version of Legacy, but *not* version 8.0. There is a work-around. Before you start, backup the family file. The first steps are exactly what you do when entering a straight couple. The change in sex is made in Microsoft Access. After adding the couple in Legacy (one will be male the other female), make note of their RIN numbers and close the program. Next open the file in Microsoft Access. Here are the steps: 1. Start MS Access. 2. Click on File and select Open. 3. Type *.fdb in the File name field at the bottom of the window and press Enter on the keyboard. Access will now see all files with a .fdb extension. 4. Browse to the directory where the family file is saved and open it. Change the gender of one of the partners: 5. Open the table named tblIR. 6. The IDIR field holds the RIN numbers. Use these to find an individual. 7. The Surname and GivenName fields are self-explanatory. 8. The Gender field holds the sex of the individual: Male = 0 and Female = 1. 9. Change the gender to be the same as his or her partner. 10. Save the file and close Microsoft Access Jim Legacy Family Tree Technical Support Original Message From: Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? I tried the Unknown and once I put them as married the marriage date it shows with a M on the left a W on the right. L Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
Unfortunately when File Maintenance, Check/Repair is run following the Access work around as Jim suggests, the Gender reverts back to the original setting. BNH -Original Message- From: Jim Terry/Support [mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com] Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013 8:03 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? Legacy won't let you do a same sex marriage or partnership. This may change in a future version of Legacy, but version 8.0. There is a work-around. Before you start, backup the family file. The first steps are exactly what you do when entering a straight couple. The change in sex is made in Microsoft Access. After adding the couple in Legacy (one will be male the other female), make note of their RIN numbers and close the program. Next open the file in Microsoft Access. Here are the steps: 1. Start MS Access. 2. Click on File and select Open. 3. Type *.fdb in the File name field at the bottom of the window and press Enter on the keyboard. Access will now see all files with a .fdb extension. 4. Browse to the directory where the family file is saved and open it. Change the gender of one of the partners: 5. Open the table named tblIR. 6. The IDIR field holds the RIN numbers. Use these to find an individual. 7. The Surname and GivenName fields are self-explanatory. 8. The Gender field holds the sex of the individual: Male = 0 and Female = 1. 9. Change the gender to be the same as his or her partner. 10. Save the file and close Microsoft Access Jim Legacy Family Tree Technical Support Original Message From: Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? I tried the Unknown and once I put them as married the marriage date it shows with a M on the left a W on the right. L Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
I wonder how I managed to do it in the first place then - oh well, for whatever reason I can't replicate what I did before, and one of my two men is now (according to Legacy) a female On 17 August 2013 09:07, Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried that; I get the message “You can’t link a Female as a Husband” that is even with “Spouse” in place of the word husband. ** ** *From:* Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2013 3:26 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? ** ** I got around the gender selection issue for a same gender relationship by adding the spouse as an unattached individual to start with, then after entering name and gender and saving them, I attached him to his spouse.*** * ** ** Hope that helps On 17/08/2013, at 8:21 AM, Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com wrote: I have a same Gender marriage I am trying to enter and I changed “Husband” to Spouse but Legacy will not let me select “F” for Female. It is greyed out and the “M” is selected. Is there a way to correctly enter same gender marriages? If not is that going to be one of the improvements on the 8.0 that will be coming out? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
Thank you. I will try this. -Original Message- From: Jim Terry/Support [mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:56 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? This may change in a future version of Legacy, but *not* version 8.0. Original Message From: Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? Legacy won't let you do a same sex marriage or partnership. This may change in a future version of Legacy, but *not* version 8.0. There is a work-around. Before you start, backup the family file. The first steps are exactly what you do when entering a straight couple. The change in sex is made in Microsoft Access. After adding the couple in Legacy (one will be male the other female), make note of their RIN numbers and close the program. Next open the file in Microsoft Access. Here are the steps: 1. Start MS Access. 2. Click on File and select Open. 3. Type *.fdb in the File name field at the bottom of the window and press Enter on the keyboard. Access will now see all files with a .fdb extension. 4. Browse to the directory where the family file is saved and open it. Change the gender of one of the partners: 5. Open the table named tblIR. 6. The IDIR field holds the RIN numbers. Use these to find an individual. 7. The Surname and GivenName fields are self-explanatory. 8. The Gender field holds the sex of the individual: Male = 0 and Female = 1. 9. Change the gender to be the same as his or her partner. 10. Save the file and close Microsoft Access Jim Legacy Family Tree Technical Support Original Message From: Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? I tried the Unknown and once I put them as married the marriage date it shows with a M on the left a W on the right. L Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
Good to know. Thanks -Original Message- From: Barry Hardman [mailto:bndlh...@iinet.net.au] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 6:12 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? Unfortunately when File Maintenance, Check/Repair is run following the Access work around as Jim suggests, the Gender reverts back to the original setting. BNH -Original Message- From: Jim Terry/Support [mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com] Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013 8:03 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? Legacy won't let you do a same sex marriage or partnership. This may change in a future version of Legacy, but version 8.0. There is a work-around. Before you start, backup the family file. The first steps are exactly what you do when entering a straight couple. The change in sex is made in Microsoft Access. After adding the couple in Legacy (one will be male the other female), make note of their RIN numbers and close the program. Next open the file in Microsoft Access. Here are the steps: 1. Start MS Access. 2. Click on File and select Open. 3. Type *.fdb in the File name field at the bottom of the window and press Enter on the keyboard. Access will now see all files with a .fdb extension. 4. Browse to the directory where the family file is saved and open it. Change the gender of one of the partners: 5. Open the table named tblIR. 6. The IDIR field holds the RIN numbers. Use these to find an individual. 7. The Surname and GivenName fields are self-explanatory. 8. The Gender field holds the sex of the individual: Male = 0 and Female = 1. 9. Change the gender to be the same as his or her partner. 10. Save the file and close Microsoft Access Jim Legacy Family Tree Technical Support Original Message From: Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? I tried the Unknown and once I put them as married the marriage date it shows with a M on the left a W on the right. L Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
Barry sent Unfortunately when File Maintenance, Check/Repair is run following the Access work around as Jim suggests, the Gender reverts back to the original setting. BNH Another alternative to Jim's, not using Access. In this case when you run File Maintenance, Chech/Repair husband and wife are replaced by Male/Male or Female/Female and does not revert back. These are my notes from my report at a past LUG (Melbourne Australia) meeting re same sex partners in Legacy. Enter both partners in male and female positions in Family View. You now need to change one partner’s gender, for instance the one designated Female that you want to change to Male. Click the marriage information bar for the pair and remove “replace wife’s married name with husband’s surnameâ€. Go to Wording Options and replace Husband and Wife on the first line (Family View) for Male and Male (or Female and Female). Then override the middle section of the next line that reads “married “ with “has (or had) a partnerâ€. If you need to cover a second relationship insert “next had a relationship with†instead of “next marriedâ€. At the bottom substitute “Partner†and “Partnership†for “Spouse†and “Marriageâ€. Make sure you click Save. We found we needed to insert Partnership in the location field for the word to appear as Partnership instead of Marriage Information in the Family View but is better to leave it out for Ancestor report. Unfortunately partnership will appear in your Location List and has to be ignored! Certainly not a perfect solution. To prevent “she/he†creeping in instead of “he/she†for some reports and charts, edit the event sentence definitions to use [FirstName] instead of [He/She], that would get rid of some of the problems - or use Sentence Override so sentences for others are not affected. This addition was supplied by Cathy in Western Australia. She usually uses [FirstHeShe] in Event Sentence Definitions so that the First Name alternates with the pronoun in reports. Note also in a Family Chart you still get Husband and Wife – not Partners. However, the Descendant Chart seems to work and the Family View is acceptable. Judy From: Jim Terry/Support [mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com] Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013 8:03 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? Legacy won't let you do a same sex marriage or partnership. This may change in a future version of Legacy, but version 8.0. There is a work-around. Before you start, backup the family file. The first steps are exactly what you do when entering a straight couple. The change in sex is made in Microsoft Access. After adding the couple in Legacy (one will be male the other female), make note of their RIN numbers and close the program. Next open the file in Microsoft Access. Here are the steps: 1. Start MS Access. 2. Click on File and select Open. 3. Type *.fdb in the File name field at the bottom of the window and press Enter on the keyboard. Access will now see all files with a .fdb extension. 4. Browse to the directory where the family file is saved and open it. Change the gender of one of the partners: 5. Open the table named tblIR. 6. The IDIR field holds the RIN numbers. Use these to find an individual. 7. The Surname and GivenName fields are self-explanatory. 8. The Gender field holds the sex of the individual: Male = 0 and Female = 1. 9. Change the gender to be the same as his or her partner. 10. Save the file and close Microsoft Access Jim Legacy Family Tree Technical Support Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
Are you sure about that? The church has shifted it's position on gays (they stopped objecting to gay scouts, for example). If you ask them again, they might approve it for 8.0. Joshua From: Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:56 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? This may change in a future version of Legacy, but *not* version 8.0. Original Message From: Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? Legacy won't let you do a same sex marriage or partnership. This may change in a future version of Legacy, but *not* version 8.0. There is a work-around. Before you start, backup the family file. The first steps are exactly what you do when entering a straight couple. The change in sex is made in Microsoft Access. After adding the couple in Legacy (one will be male the other female), make note of their RIN numbers and close the program. Next open the file in Microsoft Access. Here are the steps: 1. Start MS Access. 2. Click on File and select Open. 3. Type *.fdb in the File name field at the bottom of the window and press Enter on the keyboard. Access will now see all files with a .fdb extension. 4. Browse to the directory where the family file is saved and open it. Change the gender of one of the partners: 5. Open the table named tblIR. 6. The IDIR field holds the RIN numbers. Use these to find an individual. 7. The Surname and GivenName fields are self-explanatory. 8. The Gender field holds the sex of the individual: Male = 0 and Female = 1. 9. Change the gender to be the same as his or her partner. 10. Save the file and close Microsoft Access Jim Legacy Family Tree Technical Support Original Message From: Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? I tried the Unknown and once I put them as married the marriage date it shows with a M on the left a W on the right. L Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???
I think the reference to it not being included in version 8 is that version 8 is already nearing release and there is no time to make that change - not that legalities etc need to be dealt with perhaps in 8.5 or 9 we can hope On 17 August 2013 14:29, Joshua Levy joshua2l...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you sure about that? The church has shifted it's position on gays (they stopped objecting to gay scouts, for example). If you ask them again, they might approve it for 8.0. Joshua -- *From:* Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2013 5:56 PM *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? This may change in a future version of Legacy, but *not* version 8.0. Original Message From: Jim Terry/Support jimte...@legacyusers.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? Legacy won't let you do a same sex marriage or partnership. This may change in a future version of Legacy, but *not* version 8.0. There is a work-around. Before you start, backup the family file. The first steps are exactly what you do when entering a straight couple. The change in sex is made in Microsoft Access. After adding the couple in Legacy (one will be male the other female), make note of their RIN numbers and close the program. Next open the file in Microsoft Access. Here are the steps: 1. Start MS Access. 2. Click on File and select Open. 3. Type *.fdb in the File name field at the bottom of the window and press Enter on the keyboard. Access will now see all files with a .fdb extension. 4. Browse to the directory where the family file is saved and open it. Change the gender of one of the partners: 5. Open the table named tblIR. 6. The IDIR field holds the RIN numbers. Use these to find an individual. 7. The Surname and GivenName fields are self-explanatory. 8. The Gender field holds the sex of the individual: Male = 0 and Female = 1. 9. Change the gender to be the same as his or her partner. 10. Save the file and close Microsoft Access Jim Legacy Family Tree Technical Support Original Message From: Sandy Inklebarger sandy...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage??? I tried the Unknown and once I put them as married the marriage date it shows with a M on the left a W on the right. L Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.comhttp://news.legacyfamilytree.com/ ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.comhttp://news.legacyfamilytree.com/ ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical