RE: [LegacyUG] dates for Events?

2014-05-15 Thread C.G. Ouimet
How about going to Options, then Customize, then Dates and pick the closest 
thing which will look like “1933 Sep 8”, “1933 Sep” or “1933”, depending on how 
much detail you have …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 15, 2014 03:33 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] dates for Events?



I use the free version of Legacy 7.5

Is there a way to have the date for an Event display differently than other 
dates for other fields?

All my dates display as Month/Day/Year, just as I want them to. But for Events 
I want them to display differently because I don''t always know the month and 
day.

I want all the events to show up in 'book' style reports with the Year first, 
then month, then day so that they can be easily scanned.

Right now I get this type of display which is difficult to look through

1920
1930

September 8, 1933
1940

August, 1941

I want it to look like this...

1920
1930

1933, September 8
1940

1941, August

Is there any way to enter dates for Events so the year displays first?



Elizabeth



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RE: [LegacyUG] dates for Events?

2014-05-15 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Dates will be displayed consistently everywhere. They won’t show one way here 
and another way there. You need to pick …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 15, 2014 04:18 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] dates for Events?



Would I have to do that each time I add an Event and then switch back to the 
other way when done adding it? Or can there be 2 different permanent settings 
for dates? I think whatever setting I choose is used everywhere..?

Elizabeth



On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:45 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

How about going to Options, then Customize, then Dates and pick the closest 
thing which will look like “1933 Sep 8”, “1933 Sep” or “1933”, depending on how 
much detail you have …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 15, 2014 03:33 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] dates for Events?



I use the free version of Legacy 7.5

Is there a way to have the date for an Event display differently than other 
dates for other fields?

All my dates display as Month/Day/Year, just as I want them to. But for Events 
I want them to display differently because I don''t always know the month and 
day.

I want all the events to show up in 'book' style reports with the Year first, 
then month, then day so that they can be easily scanned.

Right now I get this type of display which is difficult to look through

1920
1930

September 8, 1933
1940

August, 1941

I want it to look like this...

1920
1930

1933, September 8
1940

1941, August

Is there any way to enter dates for Events so the year displays first?

Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] dates for Events?

2014-05-15 Thread Cathy Pinner

Hi Elizabeth,

What you are wanting with dates is an option in the Chronology View and Report.

However these aren't part of the free version of Legacy.

However in the Standard Free version, you can change the display for all dates 
in Options  Customise - Date Tab and this choice carries through to reports 
for all dates.

Note this isn't changing the entry order which should match your computer date 
format.
In Legacy 7.5 this appears as another choice on the Dates tab but in Legacy 8 
this is set automatically from the computer settings.

Cathy

elizabeth wrote:
 I use the free version of Legacy 7.5

 Is there a way to have the date for an Event display differently than
 other dates for other fields?

 All my dates display as Month/Day/Year, just as I want them to. But
 for Events I want them to display differently because I don''t always
 know the month and day.

 I want all the events to show up in 'book' style reports with the Year
 first, then month, the
n day so that they can be easily scanned.

 Right now I get this type of display which is difficult to look
 through

 1920
 1930
 September 8, 1933
 1940
 August, 1941

 I want it to look like this...

 1920
 1930
 1933, September 8
 1940
 1941, August

 Is there any way to enter dates for Events so the year displays first?


 Elizabeth




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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

2010-04-22 Thread Jenny M Benson
Brian L. Lightfoot wrote
One notable exception might be for a US census event. While it would be
correct to use the actual date of the census enumeration, one must be
careful about the timeliness of any information derived from within
that event. For example, while the data may have been given on October
15th, it was correct only as of June 1st of that census year. I have at
least one example of where one of my ancestors appears on a census
enumeration done in October; he actually had died 3 months earlier.

I had thought about adding a note of caution!  I often use a Baptism
record as a Source for the parents' address but I recently had an
instance where both the child's parents were named and an address given,
but I happened to know that the mother had died shortly after the birth
and some time before the Baptism.

(Even the use of the word correct is questionable!)
--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

2010-04-22 Thread Rob Miller

Thanks Ron! It's something that's always wondered about.

Rob













 From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events
 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:32:20 +0100

 Rob Miller wrote:
 While I clean up my Sources, I am also going back and creating Events
 (something fairly new for me).

 If my Source is the birth record below, would the date of Thomas'
 Occupation and Residence be 28 June 1868 (the date Flora was
 born), or 17 Jul 1868 (the date he registered)?

 Which date do people enter into Events?


 No. 185
 *1. When and where born: Twenty Eighth June 1868 / Campden
 2. Name, if any: Flora
 3. Sex: Girl
 4. Name and surname of father: Thomas Wilkes
 5. Name, surname and maiden surname of mother: Fanny Wilkes /
 formerly Brotheridge
 6. Occupation of father: Farm Labourer
 7. Signature, description and residence of informant: Thomas Wilks /
 Father / Campden
 *8: When registered: Seventeenth July 1868

 Thanks again!!

 Rob


 Rob Miller
 Toronto, ON

 Rob,

 Box 1 gives the date and place of birth, as stated in the box header. It is
 not necessarily the same as the family residence, although if not a hospital
 nor a nursing home, it is probable. However, Box 7 should confirm (unless
 they have moved house between the birth and registration. I would expect the
 informant to give their place of residence as being that at the time of
 registration.

 Box 6 poses an interesting question, and one which I have never asked
 myself. Strictly speaking it should be as at birth, although I can easily
 see the informant giving the current occupation. In this case it is
 unlikely to have changed, but in any event take your pick!

 Ron Ferguson
 _

 Completely rewritten and revised:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 And the Fergusons of N.W. England
 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

2010-04-22 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
The instructions at the time were, to answer the questions as if they were 
answered on the 1st of June, not the day the census taker actually got to your 
house. They were to ignore children born after that day, which my relative was, 
and include people who died after that date, which you have an example of. In 
my own work, I have found that most 'takers' got it right.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Wed, 4/21/10, Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote:

 From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 9:58 PM
 One notable exception might be for a
 US census event. While it would be correct to use the actual
 date of the census enumeration, one must be careful about
 the timeliness of any information derived from within that
 event. For example, while the data may have been given on
 October 15th, it was correct only as of June 1st of that
 census year. I have at least one example of where one of my
 ancestors appears on a census enumeration done in October;
 he actually had died 3 months earlier.

 Brian in CA


  -Original Message-
  From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:40 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events
 
  Rob Miller wrote
  If my Source is the birth record below, would the
 date of Thomas'
  Occupation and Residence be 28 June 1868 (the
 date Flora was
  born),
  or 17 Jul 1868 (the date he registered)?
  
  Which date do people enter into Events?
 
  I always take it that the information is correct for
 the day on which
  it
  is given, so in your case I would use the date of
 Registration, not the
  date of Birth.
  --
  Jenny M Benson
 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

2010-04-22 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
This is probably to what Jenny was eluding was she mentioned the precariousness 
of the word correct. In the case of census data, a lot depended upon the 
truthfulness of those being enumerated and then a lot also depended upon the 
precision and uniformity amongst the various enumerators.

Brian in CA


 -Original Message-
 From: John S. Adams [mailto:oldbr...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:09 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

 And I have many instances of data which was correct on the enumeration
 date
 but not correct on the official census date.

 John S. Adams
 Hermosa Beach, CA

 --
 From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:58 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

  One notable exception might be for a US census event. While it would
 be
  correct to use the actual date of the census enumeration, one must be
  careful about the timeliness of any information derived from within
 that
  event. For example, while the data may have been given on October
 15th, it
  was correct only as of June 1st of that census year. I have at least
 one
  example of where one of my ancestors appears on a census enumeration
 done
  in October; he actually had died 3 months earlier.
 
  Brian in CA





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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

2010-04-21 Thread Ron Ferguson
Rob Miller wrote:
 While I clean up my Sources, I am also going back and creating Events
 (something fairly new for me).

 If my Source is the birth record below, would the date of Thomas'
 Occupation and Residence be 28 June 1868 (the date Flora was
 born), or 17 Jul 1868 (the date he registered)?

 Which date do people enter into Events?


 No.  185
 *1. When and where born:  Twenty Eighth June 1868 / Campden
 2. Name, if any:  Flora
 3. Sex:  Girl
 4. Name and surname of father:  Thomas Wilkes
 5. Name, surname and maiden surname of mother:  Fanny Wilkes /
 formerly Brotheridge
 6. Occupation of father:  Farm Labourer
 7. Signature, description and residence of informant:  Thomas Wilks /
 Father / Campden
 *8: When registered:  Seventeenth July 1868

 Thanks again!!

 Rob


 Rob Miller
 Toronto, ON

Rob,

Box 1 gives the date and place of birth, as stated in the box header. It is
not necessarily the same as the family residence, although if not a hospital
nor a nursing home, it is probable. However, Box 7 should confirm (unless
they have moved house between the birth and registration. I would expect the
informant to give their place of residence as being that at the time of
registration.

Box 6 poses an interesting question, and one which I have never asked
myself. Strictly speaking it should be as at birth, although I can easily
see the informant giving the current occupation. In  this case it is
unlikely to have changed, but in any event take your pick!

Ron Ferguson
_

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England





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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

2010-04-21 Thread Toni Sano
Ron
my event or any event  LOL
 but in any event take your pick!

Toni Sano, Dundas, Canada



- Original Message -
From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events


Rob Miller wrote:
 While I clean up my Sources, I am also going back and creating Events
 (something fairly new for me).

 If my Source is the birth record below, would the date of Thomas'
 Occupation and Residence be 28 June 1868 (the date Flora was
 born), or 17 Jul 1868 (the date he registered)?

 Which date do people enter into Events?


 No.  185
 *1. When and where born:  Twenty Eighth June 1868 / Campden
 2. Name, if any:  Flora
 3. Sex:  Girl
 4. Name and surname of father:  Thomas Wilkes
 5. Name, surname and maiden surname of mother:  Fanny Wilkes /
 formerly Brotheridge
 6. Occupation of father:  Farm Labourer
 7. Signature, description and residence of informant:  Thomas Wilks /
 Father / Campden
 *8: When registered:  Seventeenth July 1868

 Thanks again!!

 Rob


 Rob Miller
 Toronto, ON

Rob,

Box 1 gives the date and place of birth, as stated in the box header. It is
not necessarily the same as the family residence, although if not a hospital
nor a nursing home, it is probable. However, Box 7 should confirm (unless
they have moved house between the birth and registration. I would expect the
informant to give their place of residence as being that at the time of
registration.

Box 6 poses an interesting question, and one which I have never asked
myself. Strictly speaking it should be as at birth, although I can easily
see the informant giving the current occupation. In  this case it is
unlikely to have changed, but in any event take your pick!

Ron Ferguson
_

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England





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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

2010-04-21 Thread Jenny M Benson
Rob Miller wrote
If my Source is the birth record below, would the date of Thomas'
Occupation and Residence be 28 June 1868 (the date Flora was born),
or 17 Jul 1868 (the date he registered)?

Which date do people enter into Events?

I always take it that the information is correct for the day on which it
is given, so in your case I would use the date of Registration, not the
date of Birth.
--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

2010-04-21 Thread Ron Ferguson
Close, Toni, Close!

Ron Ferguson
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Toni Sano wrote:
 Ron
 my event or any event  LOL
  but in any event take your pick!

 Toni Sano, Dundas, Canada



 - Original Message -
 From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events


 Rob Miller wrote:
 While I clean up my Sources, I am also going back and creating Events
 (something fairly new for me).

 If my Source is the birth record below, would the date of Thomas'
 Occupation and Residence be 28 June 1868 (the date Flora was
 born), or 17 Jul 1868 (the date he registered)?

 Which date do people enter into Events?


 No.  185
 *1. When and where born:  Twenty Eighth June 1868 / Campden
 2. Name, if any:  Flora
 3. Sex:  Girl
 4. Name and surname of father:  Thomas Wilkes
 5. Name, surname and maiden surname of mother:  Fanny Wilkes /
 formerly Brotheridge
 6. Occupation of father:  Farm Labourer
 7. Signature, description and residence of informant:  Thomas Wilks /
 Father / Campden
 *8: When registered:  Seventeenth July 1868

 Thanks again!!

 Rob


 Rob Miller
 Toronto, ON

 Rob,

 Box 1 gives the date and place of birth, as stated in the box header.
 It is not necessarily the same as the family residence, although if
 not a hospital nor a nursing home, it is probable. However, Box 7
 should confirm (unless they have moved house between the birth and
 registration. I would expect the informant to give their place of
 residence as being that at the time of registration.

 Box 6 poses an interesting question, and one which I have never asked
 myself. Strictly speaking it should be as at birth, although I can
 easily see the informant giving the current occupation. In  this case
 it is unlikely to have changed, but in any event take your pick!

 Ron Ferguson
 _

 Completely rewritten and revised:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 And the Fergusons of N.W. England
 

 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

2010-04-21 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
One notable exception might be for a US census event. While it would be correct 
to use the actual date of the census enumeration, one must be careful about the 
timeliness of any information derived from within that event. For example, 
while the data may have been given on October 15th, it was correct only as of 
June 1st of that census year. I have at least one example of where one of my 
ancestors appears on a census enumeration done in October; he actually had died 
3 months earlier.

Brian in CA


 -Original Message-
 From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:40 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

 Rob Miller wrote
 If my Source is the birth record below, would the date of Thomas'
 Occupation and Residence be 28 June 1868 (the date Flora was
 born),
 or 17 Jul 1868 (the date he registered)?
 
 Which date do people enter into Events?

 I always take it that the information is correct for the day on which
 it
 is given, so in your case I would use the date of Registration, not the
 date of Birth.
 --
 Jenny M Benson





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Re: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

2010-04-21 Thread John S. Adams
And I have many instances of data which was correct on the enumeration date
but not correct on the official census date.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

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From: Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Dates for Events

 One notable exception might be for a US census event. While it would be
 correct to use the actual date of the census enumeration, one must be
 careful about the timeliness of any information derived from within that
 event. For example, while the data may have been given on October 15th, it
 was correct only as of June 1st of that census year. I have at least one
 example of where one of my ancestors appears on a census enumeration done
 in October; he actually had died 3 months earlier.

 Brian in CA




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