[OSM-legal-talk] OSM and Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5

2008-08-04 Thread Guillermo Sansovic
We have been offered a large POI database to include in OSM. 
The data in this database is licensed Creative Commons 
Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5.

Are the licenses compatible?


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Tracing from Aerial Imagery

2008-08-04 Thread Laurence Penney
On 1 Aug 2008, at 01:14, Frederik Ramm wrote:

> Question 1 - is that what Ed said? And question 2 - does it make  
> sense,
> legally? And question 3 - so I am allowed to trace my house, and my
> neighbour's, and my workplace, and the bakery I visit every morning,  
> and
> my birthplace, and my parent's house...?

I think you remember it accurately. And I think you could publish all  
those things without a problem.

It reminds me of similar discussions about UK postcodes and OSGB  
TOIDs: you can publish a small set of them relating to data you  
publish for your own arbitrary purposes. However attempts to integrate  
multiple individual projects into, for example, some kind of UK  
postcode lookup, or a "FreeStreepMap" project based on spidering and  
integrating thousands of KMZs, would breach terms. It's not so much  
"derived data" that's the problem (as small amounts are ok), but  
"derived utility".

So going back to your various publishable tracings, it would be the  
intent to integrate the tracings of a whole community that would be  
problematic. No, not very satisfactory in terms of mathematical logic,  
but does anybody want a legal system that's as hackable as Internet  
Explorer?

- L



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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a map on a sign

2008-08-04 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

> I am wondering if I can use this sign and others for a draft map  
> and for
> streetnames:
> http://m.roetsch.dasevil.de/up/Karte_Sehl.jpeg  [143KiB]
> In my opinion Panoramafreiheit (freedom of panorama) applies.
> The map is placed in public and it is painted directly on the metal
> plate, so it is permanent.
> The problem may be, that it is not my intention to reproduce this map
> exactly, which is allowed, but to create another map.

My completely non-lawyer opinion is thus: If the government puts up  
signs that have the name of a street on them (a.k.a. street signs)  
then we take it for granted that we can use them. So if the  
government puts up signs that have the names of 10 streets on them,  
like your example does, we can obviuosly use them as well.

Bye
Frederik

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