[OSM-legal-talk] OSM data grant
Hi, i'm consultant in GIS and cartography domain. Can i use OSM shape data for my work? I make and sell digital maps, and i sell may compositions in raster format. My end product is an elaboration datas, vector + raster. My question is if i can use OSM shape data for sale my etaboration rasters maps. Regards Marc Roussel ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] post-migration terms for maps rendered by OSM?
This may be a stupid or uninteresting question. Or the answer may be obvious and I've completely missed it. Apologies in any of those cases. Currently I understand that all data and content on OSM is available under CC BY-SA. That is suboptimal for databases, which of course is why ODbL is desired (or some instrument appropriate for databases, I'll completely ignore the PD vs copyleft debate here, hoping it isn't relevant to my question). At least one important re-user uses maps rendered by OSM under CC BY-SA -- http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:OpenStreetMap_maps Under what terms will maps rendered by OSM be available after the database is migrated to ODbL? I can imagine some possibilities such as (a) Rendered maps will be under the permissive Database Contents License http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/dbcl/ -- replacement for the Factual Information License mentioned at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License_FAQ#What_alternative_licence_is_the_OSMF_recommending.3F (b) Rendered maps will be under the ODbL itself. I guess that could be read into http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License_FAQ#How_does_this_affect_Wikipedia_and_other_projects_that_want_to_use_our_maps.3F (c) Rendered maps will be under some other terms distinct from the database or database contents (CC BY-SA, public domain ...) I'm not sure rendered maps are really "database contents" and they don't seem to be databases themselves, though I guess one could make a stretch for either. And (c), while not a stretch (maybe, modulo related question below) isn't mentioned in the FAQ. so I'm assuming it isn't on the table. Which is it, or something else I'm completely missing? Related question: Presumably the above question only applies to maps rendered by OSM. One could presumably take the database under ODbL, render their own map, and release under any terms compatible with satisfying the notice/attribution requirement of ODbL for produced work -- 4.3 in http://www.co-ment.net/text/1280/ -- which presumably includes any of the main CC licenses, as well as many other possible release terms. Is this correct? Very marginally-related and even more probably stupid question: What terms will non-map/data/database OSM contents (ie the wiki and maybe other things I don't know about) be under post-migration? Same as current, ie no migration, ie CC BY-SA, or migration to something else? Why do I ask? Mostly because I couldn't find the answer (I have read recent threads about produced works and didn't find it therein). :-) And I'm hoping that maps rendered by OSM (by far the most convenient source of maps rendered with OSM data) may be combined with CC BY-SA works so that another incompatible set of copylefted content isn't created, given that the biggest incompatibility in the copylefted content universe is about to be eliminated (Wikimedia sites adding CC BY-SA of course). I can imagine that this could be the case under any of (a), (b), or (c) above, but I'd like to know for certain. I do work for Creative Commons, but note that I'm not a lawyer, am not stating a position for CC, and only talking about rendered maps, not data or databases! Thanks, Mike ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM data grant
Hi Marc, I am not a lawyer, and I don't speak with any authority on either the legal implications of the license or on behalf of the OpenStreetMap Foundation. And no part of this e-mail constitutes legal advice, talk to a lawyer familiar with intellectual property law. The data for OSM is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 license (see: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/License ), currently. Which means that you are free to do whatever you like with the data, print out maps and fold them into hats, give them to your family. Derive works from them and use them in art (as Meg Scheminske has done with Google Map's--though her use may not be legal--see: http://www.flickr.com/photos/zachklein/3609217246/ .) But you must attribute OpenStreetMap with their part of the data and make note of the license they use. And more importantly the resulting derivative work must be re-released with a Share Alike compatible license. That is, there is nothing stopping you from Making a map and selling it. But once people have that may they are free to make copies of that map and use it however they see fit (printing it in a book, plasticizing it and selling it, using it in a derivative art piece) provided they too attribute your work (and that of OSM) and re-release their product with a Share Alike compatible license Read the full license at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/legalcode and see the OpenStreetMaps Legal FAQ at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ So my take on your situation is that you could use the OpenStreetMap data just fine, but since you're a consultant whomever you are consulting for would have to sign off on your end product being liberally licensed. I know this would not work if you were making say wind resource maps for a company planning to sell that data, but may be acceptable if you were making maps for a non-profit company or public entity. Best of luck, -Tyler On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Marc Roussel wrote: > Hi, > i'm consultant in GIS and cartography domain. Can i use OSM shape data for > my work? > I make and sell digital maps, and i sell may compositions in raster > format. > My end product is an elaboration datas, vector + raster. > My question is if i can use OSM shape data for sale my etaboration rasters > maps. > > Regards > > Marc Roussel > > > ___ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > > ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] post-migration terms for maps rendered by OSM?
Mike Linksvayer schrieb: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:OpenStreetMap_maps > > Under what terms will maps rendered by OSM be available after the > database is migrated to ODbL? That will be up to the people doing the rendering. For maps rendered on Wikimedia servers (see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap), CC-BY-SA would seem like an obvious choice, but it's up to them. > (b) Rendered maps will be under the ODbL itself. I guess that could > be read into > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License_FAQ#How_does_this_affect_Wikipedia_and_other_projects_that_want_to_use_our_maps.3F I have just updated that FAQ. It was referring to an early out-of-date draft of the ODbL. > One could presumably take the database under ODbL, render their own > map, and release under any terms compatible with satisfying the > notice/attribution requirement of ODbL for produced work -- 4.3 in > http://www.co-ment.net/text/1280/ -- which presumably includes any of > the main CC licenses, as well as many other possible release terms. Is > this correct? Yes. > What terms will non-map/data/database OSM contents (ie the wiki and > maybe other things I don't know about) be under post-migration? Same > as current, ie no migration, ie CC BY-SA, or migration to something > else? I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I don't see any reasons for changing it. > And I'm hoping > that maps rendered by OSM (by far the most convenient source of maps > rendered with OSM data) may be combined with CC BY-SA works so that > another incompatible set of copylefted content isn't created, given > that the biggest incompatibility in the copylefted content universe is > about to be eliminated Compatibility with open content licenses has been an important point for us in working with ODC. One of the changes in the latest ODbL draft was made "in order to remove any possible concerns about license compatibility on Produced Works". We believe that ODbL now is fully compatible with licenses such as CC-BY-SA or GFDL for rendered maps. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
