Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Mike Collinson m...@... writes:

 
 Here is a quick report from the License Working Group as we have been rather
quiet.Since the proposal we made to the OSMF board in August and at SOTM 2009,
we have been working on a number of small issues raised but now getting on track
to make our final formal license change proposal to OSMF members.- We now have a
simple human-readable summary of the ODbL initiated by us and hosted at
http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/summary/

My human eyes can't make out how long time ODbL will protect the contents of
database.  Is it the same as in EU database directive Directive 96/9/EC of the
European Parliament and of the Council of 11 March 1996 on the legal protection
of databases which says:
Article 10
Term of protection
1. The right provided for in Article 7 shall run from the date of completion of
the making of the database. It shall expire fifteen years from the first of
January of the year following the date of completion.

Will all contents of OSM year 2009 database be in public domain first of
January, 2025?


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Grant for usage of a google mapmaper users data to me

2009-09-28 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:44 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Will you react calmly if Google send messages to
 every OSM contributor asking them to dual-license their data? Only if
 you can honestly answer yes should you proceed.

 HI there,
 I would never just spam anyone.
 But there are some really motivated mappers in kosovo, and they dont
 even understand that they cannot print these maps or use them
 properly.
 The guy was still searching for the print buttton!

How good are the Yahoo imagery of Kosovo? The big thing about GMM is
that they have better coverage than Yahoo has. People just want maps
they don't care about free maps, sure they may care about it if they
can be bothered to understand the issues.

What I have seen on GMM  looks suspiciously  like ppl copying
information from copyrighted maps.

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/28 Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi:
 Mike Collinson m...@... writes:

 Article 10
 Term of protection
 1. The right provided for in Article 7 shall run from the date of completion 
 of
 the making of the database. It shall expire fifteen years from the first of
 January of the year following the date of completion.

 Will all contents of OSM year 2009 database be in public domain first of
 January, 2025?

I doubt that OSM db will ever be completed ;-)

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Jukka Rahkonen
jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fiwrote:

 Will all contents of OSM year 2009 database be in public domain first of
 January, 2025?


The database directive gives 15 years of protection for a dump of a
database. As long as the database is updated, the protection period will be
continously renewed.

 - Gustav
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 28 de Septiembre de 2009, Gustav Foseid escribió:
 On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Jukka Rahkonen

 jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fiwrote:
  Will all contents of OSM year 2009 database be in public domain first of
  January, 2025?

 The database directive gives 15 years of protection for a dump of a
 database. As long as the database is updated, the protection period will be
 continously renewed.

Planet dumps which are 15 years old will be considered out-of-copyright, 
though.


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/28 Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com:
 2009/9/28 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es

 Better? :-)

 :-)


does this mean yes? What is the situation with planned Odbl?

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Grant for usage of a google mapmaper users data to me

2009-09-28 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Chris Fleming m...@chrisfleming.org wrote:
 I'm not sure what you're going to achieve here. You can't use there
 POI's directly as they will have probably been derived from google's
 aerial imagery. If you are planning on visiting the places anyway then
 just go on a visit (which you will probably be doing to get street names
 and traces?) and add them then.


Hi there,
If they mark a church with a name then it is pretty easy to find other
sources for that and even locate it on yahoo sat.

if you know the 100 radius of an POI then you can find other free
sources for it. I can also ask someone who is in the area to look at
it or confirm it.

mike

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