Re: [OSM-legal-talk] list of user IDs having accepted the contributor terms

2010-10-10 Thread Gregory Arenius
Any info on who, or at least what percentage of people, clicked on the "all
my edits are public domain" checkbox?

Just curious.

Cheers,
Greg

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Matt Amos  wrote:

> as part of the voluntary relicensing phase of the move to ODbL,
> existing contributors have had the ability to voluntarily accept the
> contributor terms. to help the community assess the impact of the
> relicensing it was planned to make the information about which
> accounts have agreed available. this will help with the evaluation of
> the process and analysis of any consequent data loss, should the
> switch be made. at the last LWG meeting, having been put to the board
> for approval, it was decided to make this available [1], and i'm
> pleased to announce that this list is now up [2] and being regularly
> refreshed from the database every hour.
>
> i look forward to seeing the new analyses, visualisations and tools
> that can be built using this data.
>
> cheers,
>
> matt
>
> [1] https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_86hf7fnqg8
> [2] http://planet.openstreetmap.org/users_agreed/users_agreed.txt
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-10 Thread Ulf Möller

Am 02.10.2010 14:36, schrieb Valent Turkovic:


Here is his answer:



Those countries have their own geogrphical or geodesist institutes. So:
the VGI is selling those OLD prints and they have still an copyright on
reproduction of those papers, BUT NOT THE CONTAINED DATA !!!


The fact that the new countries have institutes that create their own 
maps has nothing to do with the copyright on existing VGI map data. (Map 
making is not exclusively a government task, as anyone working on OSM 
should know.)


There are only two possibilites: Either VGI still owns the rights to the 
maps they created, or the rights were transferred to the new countries. 
In either case, you cannot use the data without permission.



I agree that it is a grey zone, but who will say that its illegal?


OSM doesn't accept data from grey zones


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-10 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Ulf Möller  wrote:
> Am 02.10.2010 14:36, schrieb Valent Turkovic:
>> I agree that it is a grey zone, but who will say that its illegal?
>
> OSM doesn't accept data from grey zones

It'll be interesting to see how the ODbL switchover takes place, then.

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] list of user IDs having accepted the contributor terms

2010-10-10 Thread Anthony
If the contributor terms change, will there be two separate lists
kept, or does the list get reset, or what?

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Matt Amos  wrote:
> as part of the voluntary relicensing phase of the move to ODbL,
> existing contributors have had the ability to voluntarily accept the
> contributor terms. to help the community assess the impact of the
> relicensing it was planned to make the information about which
> accounts have agreed available. this will help with the evaluation of
> the process and analysis of any consequent data loss, should the
> switch be made. at the last LWG meeting, having been put to the board
> for approval, it was decided to make this available [1], and i'm
> pleased to announce that this list is now up [2] and being regularly
> refreshed from the database every hour.
>
> i look forward to seeing the new analyses, visualisations and tools
> that can be built using this data.
>
> cheers,
>
> matt
>
> [1] https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_86hf7fnqg8
> [2] http://planet.openstreetmap.org/users_agreed/users_agreed.txt
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] list of user IDs having accepted the contributor terms

2010-10-10 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

Anthony wrote:

If the contributor terms change, will there be two separate lists
kept, or does the list get reset, or what?


No, the will not be reset.

If the terms should be changed, then we will have two groups of 
contributors, one having agreed to terms "A" and one having agreed to 
terms "B". As long as any future action by OSMF is within the 
intersection of "A" and "B" - and this is what it would have to be -, it 
does not matter who signed which.


All suggestions that I have heard of were about narrowing down the 
contributor terms, i.e. "B" would be a subset of "A", so that the 
intersection of both would always be "B".


Bye
Frederik

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