Re: [OSM-legal-talk] "We Are Changing The License" missing relevant information

2010-10-25 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Tobias Knerr  wrote:
> I just answered a user's question on how to accept the new contributor
> terms. I'll quote his statement here:
>
>
> ''How do we accept the new licence??'' JOSM sent me here but I cannot
> find a way to accept the licence.

Users may accept the license from their API user account on the settings page.

or use this link

http://openstreetmap.org/user/terms

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[OSM-legal-talk] "We Are Changing The License" missing relevant information

2010-10-25 Thread Tobias Knerr
I just answered a user's question on how to accept the new contributor
terms. I'll quote his statement here:


''How do we accept the new licence??'' JOSM sent me here but I cannot
find a way to accept the licence.
This is ''bad'' as I dont want my edits to be dropped.


It's a valid issue: The page "We Are Changing The License" -
http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/We_Are_Changing_The_License -
advertises accepting the license, but does not mention how to do so. And
a prominent link to it has been added to JOSM's startup page a while
ago, so it will be the landing page for a lot of users unfamiliar with
the license change.

The page is part of the OSMF wiki, so I'm unable to update it. Can
someone please add that information?

Oh ... and while you are at it, why not update the "(TODO: add more on
what this means)" section, too?

Thanks,
Tobias Knerr

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Waiving attribution illegal in any country/-ies?

2010-10-25 Thread Frederik Ramm

Niklas,

Niklas Cholmkvist wrote:

Previously I've been wanting a Public Domain("PD") map multilicensed
under various PD licenses like CC0, WTFPL etc...but is this even
possible? (waiving attribution requirement)


The "PD is not possible in your country" is a canard that comes up every 
now and then. My suggestion is to ignore it as an irrelevant technicality.


In many countries your right to be identified as the author of a work is 
inalienable (provided the work passes certain minimum requirements). 
This means that you cannot sell this right to someone completely (i.e. 
you cannot sell the fact that you are the author of the work).


You can usually sell away most of the other rights that stem from 
copyright, i.e. you can sell an exclusive license to use your work to 
someone else, and from then on you can't even use your work yourself 
without asking them. But this is, in many countries, not possible with 
your right to attribution, i.e. the other person cannot buy from you 
your right to be named as the author.


But that does not prevent you from granting others a perpetual 
non-retractable license to use your work without naming you as the 
author - which is something completely different!


Thus, no problems with CC0, WTFPL etc. on that side.

Bye
Frederik

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[OSM-legal-talk] Waiving attribution illegal in any country/-ies?

2010-10-25 Thread Niklas Cholmkvist
Hi,

Previously I've been wanting a Public Domain("PD") map multilicensed
under various PD licenses like CC0, WTFPL etc...but is this even
possible? (waiving attribution requirement)

From my little knowledge... in Australia you can't waive the
"attribution right". 
Hypothetically if there was a global PD project and alongside everyone
else, some Australians joined the project, would everybody else in all
other countries have to attribute Australians(by using the planet dump)?
(I think and hope not)

or is it just Australians that are at a disadvantage who have to
attribute (to the best of their ability) the foreign to them
contributors of all other countries?

Regards,
Niklas
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