Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Clarifying Geocoding and ODbL
On 07.06.13 11:07, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: At least for the substantial part of your question I believe if a professional geo service provider like map box would decide to use OSM to satisfy its geocoding needs, it is obvious that this use would be substantial, or you could use it only very few and for very short time ;-) +1. If you geocode just a few points, the result is not a work. If it's enough to be a database, it's probably derivative. Say, you geocode all housenumbers in an area, or all pubs in London, this list of coordinates probably is a database. But only local jurisdiction will tell you what is a database (a work) and what is not. ODbL can't (and shouldn't) give you an answer here. /al ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Place name translations
Someone's being adding translations of place names using: http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85ra%C5%A1as:Jungtin%C4%97s_Karalyst%C4%97s_miestai (which in turn references something else, according to the wikipedia page) Apparently Place names translations are public knowledge and it can be used on OSM. Does this sound plausible? I genuinely have no idea Cheers, Andy ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Place name translations
Someoneelse wrote: Someone's being adding translations of place names using: These aren't translations, they're transliterations. General consensus is that we shouldn't add transliterations (which are essentially algorithmic) to OSM. Apparently Place names translations are public knowledge and it can be used on OSM. Does this sound plausible? I genuinely have no idea No, public knowledge does not of its own allow things to be copied into OSM from any other source, otherwise we could just copy streetnames etc. wholesale from Google Street View. This is the old database rights/sweat-of-the-brow thing for the n millionth time. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-Place-name-translations-tp5765423p5765426.html Sent from the Legal Talk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Data import and license compatibility
Thank you Martin. I have one more question. Now we discovered that the data may contain some ways traced over Google imagery. If we take this data set and align it to Bing imagery (node by node, not just the same offset for everything), would the result still be considered subject to copyright? Would it be considered derived work? On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/6/12 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com There was one answer in the forum (http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=340685) saying: If he owns the rights to the data, he is able to publish the data under further licences. CC and CT/ODbL are non-exclusive licences. yes, he is right. cheers, Martin -- Martin Koppenhoefer (Dipl-Ing. Arch.) Via del Santuario Regina degli Apostoli, 18 00145 Roma |I|I|I|I|I|I|I|I| Italia N41.851, E12.4824 tel1: +39 06.916508070 tel2: +49 30 868708638 mobil: +39 392 3114712 mobil: +49 1577 7793740 m...@koppenhoefer.com http://www.koppenhoefer.com Hinweis: Diese Nachricht wurde manuell erstellt. Wir bemühen uns um fehlerfreie Korrespondenz, dennoch kann es in Ausnahmefällen vorkommen, dass bei der manuellen Übertragung von Informationen in elektronische Medien die übertragenen Informationen Fehler aufweisen. Wir bitten Sie, dies zu entschuldigen. Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of koppenhoefer.com unless specifically stated. This email and any files attached are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@koppenhoefer.com Please note that to ensure regulatory compliance and for the protection of our clients and business, we may monitor and read messages sent to and from our systems. Thank You. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
