Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [NUUG kart] [Imports] N50 imports from Kartverket (The Norwegian Mapping Authority)

2014-06-23 Thread Paul Norman 

23. juni 2014 kl. 08:35 skrev Frederik Ramm :

> Hi,
>
> On 06/23/2014 02:30 AM, N/A N/A wrote:
>> As far as I can see it ODbL section 4.3 would actually require OSM to
>> credit them in one way or another,
>
> Yes, but CC-BY does not say "in one way or another", it says:
>
> "... in any reasonable manner requested by the Licensor"
>
> which means that Kartverket get so say how they want to be attributed.

Note that this is referring to the identification. So in this case they
could specify that they are to be attributed as "Kartverket" or as "The
Norwegian Mapping Authority". CC BY doesn't require the user to regard
statements from the author about how the attribution is displayed.

If there are any issues with CC BY 4.0, they're likely to lie in other
areas like moral rights. With CC BY 3.0 the attribution required is pretty
much impossible to meet in the context of a crowd-sourced map, which is why
permission needs to be asked for CC BY 3.0 sources.

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [NUUG kart] [Imports] N50 imports from Kartverket (The Norwegian Mapping Authority)

2014-06-23 Thread Tor 
23. juni 2014 kl. 08:35 skrev Frederik Ramm :

> Hi,
> 
> On 06/23/2014 02:30 AM, N/A N/A wrote:
>> As far as I can see it ODbL section 4.3 would actually require OSM to
>> credit them in one way or another,
> 
> Yes, but CC-BY does not say "in one way or another", it says:
> 
> "... in any reasonable manner requested by the Licensor"
> 
> which means that Kartverket get so say how they want to be attributed.
> CC-BY goes on to say
> 
> "in any reasonable manner based on the medium, means, and context in
> which You Share the Licensed Material."
> 
> but saying "the context is OSM and therefor the reasonable manner is to
> list them on our copyright page" might be far-fetched.
> 
> That's why we usually double check with the licensor if our kind of
> attribution is ok with them, instead of just saying "I don't see any
> problems" and continuing ;)

In the case of Kartverket, the licensing should be OK because:
1. Kartverket has confirmed that we can integrate their data.
2. Kartverket has confirmed that attribution on a single page 
with a list of contributors is sufficient. 
3. Kartverket has been added to the list of contributors:
.

Are there any disagreements here?


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] attribution=Permission NOT granted for reuse

2014-06-23 Thread Stephan Knauss 

On 23.06.2014 09:02, Andreas Goss wrote:

http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/3Qw


likely unintended upload. Should be reverted. Did you contact the user 
already?


"note=This data has been extracted from a Western Power database and 
should not be uploaded to the OSM database."



Stephan


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[OSM-legal-talk] attribution=Permission NOT granted for reuse

2014-06-23 Thread Andreas Goss 

Just found this:

http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/3Qw
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