Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Working Group news
Mike - Thank you for all your work for OpenStreetMap as member and lead of the Licensing Working Group. I know it's not always fun and work that's often in the focus of heated debate. I've always admired your cool headedness and appreciated your practical advice. Thank you! Alex On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: The License Working Group is undermanned and has only met twice this year, most recently on 28th October. [1] This is due in great part to my lack of time, enthusiasm and attention in calling meetings. I am therefore stepping down as below and welcome volunteers to join as full members and indeed, subject to the agreement of other LWG members and board endorsement, take over the chair role. I would also like to highlight that we also now welcome associate members who can help us occassionally or want to work on a specific topic that fires you up. This involves no specific formalities nor duties. It has been brought to my attention that this might therefore suit legal practioners who would otherwise have a conflict of interest. We would certainly welcome involvement from real lawyers! Lastly, Satoshi Iida, an extremely active member of the OSM Japan community has asked to participate in LWG and I welcome him enthusiastically. It is important to broaden our scope beyond Western Europe/US thinking. Mike [1] http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes === Slightly edited copy of email sent to LWG == Dear LWG, and CC Board for their information, I feel that I do not, and will be unable to give, LWG the time and attention it needs. I have also been in the position for at least 6 years and it is time for a new and more enthusiastic face. I am therefore formally resigning as Chair and invite the LWG to consider a replacement. I would prefer that this was not a member of the current board, and therein lies a problem. I am asking Simon now his current status, but apart from him, all other current members are also board members. I have also one piece of good news in that Satoshi Iida, an extremely active member of the OSM Japan community has asked to participate and I welcome him enthusiastically. I regret adding even more to the current board's starting load, but think it best to just face facts. I am therefore happy to stay in a caretaker role until that person is in place, but emphasise that this will be less than ideal. The issues that LWG should ideally be dealing with are: - Assisting end-users by developing clarificatory community guidelines for providing OSM-based data services (rather than maps) in a mixed data environment. - License compatibility with CC 4 and the general issue of license harmonisation. - Diligently answering now frequent license enquiries. Mike ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Working Group news
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: I would also like to highlight that we also now welcome associate members who can help us occassionally or want to work on a specific topic that fires you up. This involves no specific formalities nor duties. Hi, Mike, others- Is there a formal description somewhere of the roles/responsibilities of the WG? That would help me evaluate to what extent (if at all) I can participate in WG activities. Thanks- Luis -- Luis Villa Deputy General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6810 *This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer.* ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Working Group news
On 11/18/2014 10:11 AM, Luis Villa wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz mailto:m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: I would also like to highlight that we also now welcome associate members who can help us occassionally or want to work on a specific topic that fires you up. This involves no specific formalities nor duties. Hi, Mike, others- Is there a formal description somewhere of the roles/responsibilities of the WG? That would help me evaluate to what extent (if at all) I can participate in WG activities. The scope of the LWG is listed at http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group The day to day work is answering routine license enquiries, generally by pointing to osm.org/copyright, the guidelines, or the FAQ. That's not particularly where help is needed - not that more help would be minded - it's the larger items we'd like to take on. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BWn372ow_1tnTdQja76mthS8V-ZQ5PCL_RWLR1CBzkw/pub has some of the work we'd like to take on in the near future. We haven't worked out a precise framework for the scope of individual associate members - it's not expected that all associate members would participate in all parts of the LWG's work. If associate members not having a vote would allow people to help who would otherwise be in a conflict of interest, that could be done too. If you have any suggestions, none of this is set in stone. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Working Group news
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On 11/18/2014 10:11 AM, Luis Villa wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: I would also like to highlight that we also now welcome associate members who can help us occassionally or want to work on a specific topic that fires you up. This involves no specific formalities nor duties. Hi, Mike, others- Is there a formal description somewhere of the roles/responsibilities of the WG? That would help me evaluate to what extent (if at all) I can participate in WG activities. The scope of the LWG is listed at http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group Thanks, Paul. I hope you and the rest of the group don't mind me asking some more questions. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BWn372ow_1tnTdQja76mthS8V-ZQ5PCL_RWLR1CBzkw/pub has some of the work we'd like to take on in the near future. Interesting. How often does the group meet, in practice? Is there also a fair bit of email between meetings, or...? It mentions referrals to outside counsel - is that still WSGR or is it someone else? I note quite a few non-licensing topics—DMCA, Facebook, etc. Are those common or is this unusually timed? We haven't worked out a precise framework for the scope of individual associate members - it's not expected that all associate members would participate in all parts of the LWG's work. If associate members not having a vote would allow people to help who would otherwise be in a conflict of interest, that could be done too. How often are votes actually held? Or is it mostly consensus-based anyway? Does the WG have formal legal obligations as a committee of the board (or otherwise) or is it informal/advisory? (To explain that another way: in some organizations, groups like the LWG are board committees, and so certain formal requirements apply to their members — duties of good faith, attendance, voting rules, etc. In some orgs, they are essentially purely advisory so have no formal legal obligations.) Thanks- Luis -- Luis Villa Deputy General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6810 *This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer.* ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
