Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > The problem is that they have specified a license with attribution that is > unreasonable for geodata (CC BY 3.0 and earlier). > How so? Emphasis is on "in a manner reasonable to the medium" which would be totally satisfied by a mention and general terms of how data would be modified on OSM on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/au/legalcode ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?
> Thanks, Jukka. I suspect that "permission" isn't actually valid, as it > seems to extend from data.gov.au (Federal government) but most of the > datasets there are state or territory (eg, the VicMap Rivers dataset), and > are published on the relevant state/territory data portals (data.vic.gov.au, > data.act.gov.au) etc. This is the original statement https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_permission whereby data@finance.gov.au gave OSM permission to redistribute all CC BY data available through data.gov.au (regardless of original publishing agency) under "a free and open license, including the Open Database License" so long as OSM provides the attribution on it's Contributors page. I do question that validity, but if you take it as true then I believe this means that all you need is this state data to be re-published at data.gov.au for OSM to republish it under a it's ODbL license relieving downstream users of any requirements to attribute the government agency (only OSM), even if the original state agency doesn't agree with this relicensing. I would still rather we find some way that each government agency can release their data such that we can use it in OSM without needing explicit permission. I think it's a bit unfair to ask people to release their data as CC0 when OSM won't, so if the attribution issue can be fixed in a future CC BY version I think that would be the best way forward. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: > > Have you noticed that there are already quite many Australian datasets > including Victorian Government data listed here: > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Contributor_specific_attribution_and_disclaimer > > Thanks, Jukka. I suspect that "permission" isn't actually valid, as it seems to extend from data.gov.au (Federal government) but most of the datasets there are state or territory (eg, the VicMap Rivers dataset), and are published on the relevant state/territory data portals (data.vic.gov.au, data.act.gov.au) etc. Steve ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?
Steve Bennett writes: > > Hi all, I've been trying to convince the state government of Victoria (southeast Australia) to allow their VicMap raw data to be imported into OSM. It's currently CC-BY, and they've told me they're happy in principle for it to be used this way, but they're uncomfortable making the recommended statement "DELWP has no objections to geodata derived in part from Vicmap, either traced from Vicmap map products, or directly from spatial extracts, being incorporated into the OpenStreetMap project geodata database and released under a free and open license". Hi, Have you noticed that there are already quite many Australian datasets including Victorian Government data listed here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Contributor_specific_attribution_and_disclaimer -Jukka Rahkonen ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
