Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Houston, TX, open data policy license compliance
Ah, apologies, Jan, I was too hasty in my assessment. If you click on the CC-BY link, you will see that only the "School District" dataset is CC-BY. If you do inquire, I would first ask if the dataset you are interested in is in the public domain, as that is possible under US law, and would be most fitting for the description of open data in http://www.houstontx.gov/adminpolicies/8-7.html as "freely used, shared and built-on by anyone, anywhere, for any purpose." And to Simon's point about third-party rights, while there are no guarantees, the policy does mention "Exempt Data" as including data to which there are contractual limitations, so it appears that the city at least made some effort to exclude third-party data from open data. -Kathleen On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 2:42 PM Kathleen Lu wrote: > Hi Jan, > Specifically, here's is an example of the Geographic Boundaries page that > indicates a CC-BY license: > http://data.houstontx.gov/group/geographic-boundaries > On the left side, at the bottom of the list of information. I would > surmise that this applies to all the geographic boundary datasets, but you > can ask them for clarification. > Best, > Kathleen > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 4:43 AM Simon Poole wrote: > >> While the policy is undoutably good, it does not follow that all data >> published actually conforms to it (for example third party rights in >> existing data could be an issue). >> >> In any case on data.houstontx.gov the licence is specified for 7 >> datasets, so I assume the intent is to do that for all over time (you >> should ask). >> >> The related problem is that you will need to obtain a waiver for CC BY >> material as CC BY is in many ways more restrictive than the ODbL (see >> https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/). >> >> Simon >> Am 13.08.2019 um 08:24 schrieb JS: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> The city of Houston has published several open data sets at >> data.houstontx.gov and cohgis-mycity.opendata.arcgis.com/. While the >> data sets and open data websites do not contain any licensing-related text, >> there's a general open data policy at >> http://www.houstontx.gov/adminpolicies/8-7.html. >> >> Am I right to assume that this policy, in particular the definition of >> "open data" at No 6, is sufficiently clear so as to use the data without >> further permission? >> >> Thanks for your opinions! >> >> Best, >> Jan >> -- >> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet. >> >> ___ >> legal-talk mailing >> listlegal-talk@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk >> >> ___ >> legal-talk mailing list >> legal-talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk >> > ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Houston, TX, open data policy license compliance
Hi Jan, Specifically, here's is an example of the Geographic Boundaries page that indicates a CC-BY license: http://data.houstontx.gov/group/geographic-boundaries On the left side, at the bottom of the list of information. I would surmise that this applies to all the geographic boundary datasets, but you can ask them for clarification. Best, Kathleen On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 4:43 AM Simon Poole wrote: > While the policy is undoutably good, it does not follow that all data > published actually conforms to it (for example third party rights in > existing data could be an issue). > > In any case on data.houstontx.gov the licence is specified for 7 > datasets, so I assume the intent is to do that for all over time (you > should ask). > > The related problem is that you will need to obtain a waiver for CC BY > material as CC BY is in many ways more restrictive than the ODbL (see > https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/). > > Simon > Am 13.08.2019 um 08:24 schrieb JS: > > Hi everyone, > > The city of Houston has published several open data sets at > data.houstontx.gov and cohgis-mycity.opendata.arcgis.com/. While the data > sets and open data websites do not contain any licensing-related text, > there's a general open data policy at > http://www.houstontx.gov/adminpolicies/8-7.html. > > Am I right to assume that this policy, in particular the definition of > "open data" at No 6, is sufficiently clear so as to use the data without > further permission? > > Thanks for your opinions! > > Best, > Jan > -- > Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet. > > ___ > legal-talk mailing > listlegal-talk@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > > ___ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Houston, TX, open data policy license compliance
While the policy is undoutably good, it does not follow that all data published actually conforms to it (for example third party rights in existing data could be an issue). In any case on data.houstontx.gov the licence is specified for 7 datasets, so I assume the intent is to do that for all over time (you should ask). The related problem is that you will need to obtain a waiver for CC BY material as CC BY is in many ways more restrictive than the ODbL (see https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/). Simon Am 13.08.2019 um 08:24 schrieb JS: > Hi everyone, > > The city of Houston has published several open data sets at > data.houstontx.gov and cohgis-mycity.opendata.arcgis.com/. While the > data sets and open data websites do not contain any licensing-related > text, there's a general open data policy at > http://www.houstontx.gov/adminpolicies/8-7.html. > > Am I right to assume that this policy, in particular the definition of > "open data" at No 6, is sufficiently clear so as to use the data > without further permission? > > Thanks for your opinions! > > Best, > Jan > -- > Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet. > > ___ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Houston, TX, open data policy license compliance
Hi everyone, The city of Houston has published several open data sets at data.houstontx.gov and cohgis-mycity.opendata.arcgis.com/. While the data sets and open data websites do not contain any licensing-related text, there's a general open data policy at http://www.houstontx.gov/adminpolicies/8-7.html. Am I right to assume that this policy, in particular the definition of "open data" at No 6, is sufficiently clear so as to use the data without further permission? Thanks for your opinions! Best, Jan -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet.___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
