Am Di., 22. Dez. 2020 um 10:12 Uhr schrieb Edward Bainton < bainton....@gmail.com>:
> > Dangerous: I think there's a risk that by saying, "please follow local > laws" (rather than saying nothing), we open ourselves to accusations of not > policing "our" mappers properly. You can imagine the military attaché of > some country emailing OSMF to say, "That request is very weak. I think you > should toughen it up. In fact, here is a list of mappers whose edits I want > you to revert because, ***by your own policy***, they should not have > made them in breach of our laws". > question is, what would OSMF do when the Chinese government approaches them and says, "this is the list of mappers that have illegally added things to OSM, please help us identifying them by providing their email addresses, etc." and what would they do if it was the French government? Or the British? Imagine they claim it is for finding terrorists, or somehow connected to national security. Or simply an offense. We would likely not be able to reject any of these when coming from the British authorities (or from someone else proxied through them). Are there board rules how to deal with such cases? Has it ever happened so far? As far as I know (not really far actually) in Britain there is the legal possibility of gag orders, i.e. if the thing is considered "secret" authorities can order OSMF to not even speak about it. > > A warning along the lines of "Mapping military sites is sometimes illegal > under laws of that country" would be ok, but I would much prefer not even > to do that. I haven't been on the lists long, but I don't recall anyone > saying "I've just been interrogated for mapping this base without realising > that was illegal - please don't do it!" On my information there's no > problem to solve - just worries about "what ifs" - and so we should say > nothing. > In Italy I have once seen a sign which said something along the lines of "military area, survey forbidden, also by memory", while it usually says something like "no photographs". I would bet that surveying military installations in great detail is probably forbidden in any country, but the level of detail that is allowed may vary by large. It is also very common to not be able to take photographs. For instance I would guess that mapping the facilities that are blacked out in this image could get you into trouble: https://yorkshirecnd.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/sigint-cryptologic-platform-768x575.jpg Cheers Martin
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