Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Changeset Comments Copyright
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:49 AM GITNE wrote: > On 09/23/2020 at 02:19 AM Clifford Snow wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 2:43 PM GITNE mailto:gi...@gmx.de>> > wrote: > > > > Hello OSMF Legal Team, > > > > due to a quite troubling revelation by @SomeoneElse that changeset > comments are > > automatically republished by the third party private company Slack, > I would > > appreciate if you could share your legal assessment of this > situation. More > > specifically, what is the copyright status of changeset comments and > which OSMF > > document or agreement covers changeset comments? > > > > > > Can you be more specific? Where is the data being republished? > > Unfortunately, no. I do not use Slack. So, I cannot provide a specific > link or > something. What I know is that @SomeoneElse reported that Slack has an > automated > feed which pulls changesets comments from OSM and republishes them on one > of > their channels. > I'm a regular user of Slack. I haven't seen such a feed. But more to the point, Slack, the application by itself doesn't pull information from other sources. It's up to the users to pull feeds in. For example there is a new user feed which has a link to the users account and a link to their first edit. -- @osm_washington www.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Changeset Comments Copyright
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 2:43 PM GITNE wrote: > Hello OSMF Legal Team, > > due to a quite troubling revelation by @SomeoneElse that changeset > comments are > automatically republished by the third party private company Slack, I would > appreciate if you could share your legal assessment of this situation. More > specifically, what is the copyright status of changeset comments and which > OSMF > document or agreement covers changeset comments? > Can you be more specific? Where is the data being republished? Best, Clifford -- @osm_washington www.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] I added MAPS.ME to list of entities using OSM data illegally (without proper attribution)
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:33 AM Nuno Caldeira wrote: > Speaking of attribution, here's a great example by Microsoft Bing maps, > that has attribution based on the zoom level, they seem to be using OSM > buildings and HERE roads > https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=39.97203083116834~-8.634339&lvl=10&style=r&FORM=BMLOGO > > > Up until they got contacted by OSMF to fix the attribution, nothing will > happen and won't comply. They do not reply or give lazy excuses when a > contributor approaches them > Nuno I'm confused by your statement on Bing maps. The clearly attribute OSM when zoomed in. If they only use HERE data when zoomed out, what requirements do they have to attribute OSM and if so on what basis? When zoomed in, both HERE and OSM are attributed. OT - One of the problems I noticed using two different data sources in Portugal is roads intersecting buildings. I've never been to Portugal - how good is OSM compared to HERE? Why can't they drop HERE and just use OSM? Best, Clifford -- @osm_washington www.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal requirements of permissions to import into OSM
I wonder if pointing the local governments to http://opendatacommons.org/ might be a good start. I've been considering providing some cities I've contact with a link to Open Data Commons to help them make the right decision. Clifford On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Svavar Kjarrval wrote: > Thanks for the response and the references. > > Maybe it's not as big as I think it is. While I would personally prefer > the pure public domain or anything closest to it, the entities are > sometimes reluctant to go that far. Some might accept CC0 (and PDDL > wouldn't be valid) but there are some which would want to require > attribution. Are there any CC-BY versions which have been determined to > be acceptable or any other similar licences? > > I agree with your reluctancy to suggest the ODbL due to future licence > changes. If the community decides to change the licence, there'd be so > much overhead in getting all the entities which published under other > (custom) licences to agree with the new one (even in principle). It's so > easy for them to say no if they foresee many potential future actions on > their part. > > Officials in Iceland don't usually regard granting such licences as a > huge undertaking so they're very prone to suggest making due with > granting the permission via e-mail in a fairly informal manner. If I > were to require a signed paper, some of them might change their minds, > so I'd rather not refuse those offers if I don't have to. The Icelandic > courts have determined that agreements reached/conveyed via email can be > binding but I don't know if that'd be valid under English law. > > - Svavar Kjarrval > > On 24/07/15 16:31, Simon Poole wrote: > > I suspect the problem is not quite as large as you think it might be. > > > > If they want to use a public licence, while it may not be actually > > explicitly said anywhere, CC0 or the PDDL are naturally totally > acceptable. > > > > For one offs/special permission I would suggest using > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission#Letter_Template3 > > > > > > These are essentially the two standard routes we can take were we don't > > need to make caveats about the data surviving a future licence change. > > > > Naturally there may be other "non-standard" licences that are acceptable > > and there is for example the ODbL which is usable, however has some > > issues particularly wrt a future licence change (and some more on top of > > that). But as said all tend to invoke additional complications which are > > best avoided. > > > > Simon > > > ___ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > > -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Travel Channel + OSM
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 2:59 PM, alyssa wright wrote: > Someone from the Travel Channel contacted me about using OpenStreetMap > tiles in an upcoming show but wanted to see if they could attribute OSM in > the ending credits rather than on the map. I was wondering if there were > any thoughts on this? If I understand it correctly, they only want to show a video of OSM map tiles, although they would be created through graphics processing onto the video. From my non-legal opinion that makes sense. But it would be nice to get a mention during the display of the map. Also, I noticed on the Travel Channel's website, they use Google maps. I would like to see them use OSM maps on the shows website, assuming they create one, when OSM is used on the show. I've reached out to a friend, an NYC professor of film editing for help. I believe she is traveling right now so I don't know when I'd get an reply. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] City of Frisco, TX - Data Source
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Frederic wrote: > The City of Frisco has prepared this information for internal use only. It > is made available under the Public Information Act. Any reliance on this > information is AT YOUR OWN RISK. Frisco assumes no liability for any > errors, omissions, or inaccuracies in the information regardless of the > cause of such or for any decision made, action taken, or action not taken > in reliance upon any information provided herein. I don't think there is enough information to make a determination if the data can be used in OSM. The Texas Public Information Act PDF [1] allows the distribute copyright material [2] which makes this data questionable. My guess is this information isn't copyrighted but I think an email to the GIS manager should clear it up. I've found most GIS departments very supportive of OSM. Maybe someone more familiar with Texas can help out. If this information is compatible with use in OSM, don't forget to follow the import guidelines. Clifford [1] https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/files/og/publicinfo_hb.pdf [2] footnote 96: See Open Records Decision No. 660 at 5 (1999) (Federal Copyright Act “may not be used to deny access to or copies of the information sought by the requestor under the Public Information Act,” but a governmental body may place reasonable restrictions on use of copyrighted information consistent with rights of copyright owner). -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Audubon Birds Pro
I noticed that the Android Audubon Birds Pro uses OSM maps for some of their maps. Mostly it is just Google, but when adding sighting, OSM maps are used. They are not attributing OSM, but do give Google attribution. I have sent the developer, Green Mountain Digital a nice email asking for attribution and pointing them to our licensing requirements. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Upload of copyrighted map images from OSM to Facebook
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > contact Facebook and if they are not willing to make an exception to their > terms we'll have to delete our accounts there (seems to be the only way to > remove images according to their terms). In case of the latter I'd make a > public announcement on the blog explaining the reasons why OSM cannot be on > Facebook and hope for some publicity ;-) > OSMF only has two photos posted. We can easily remove the map and the logo. We can use Facebook to help us grow the community and even attract donations so It's worthwhile to remain on Facebook. Corporation are on Facebook. Many with their logo's prominently displayed. I don't think Starbucks is giving up any rights to their Logo by having it on Facebook. (I tried to pick an international corporation that is known by a worldwide audience.) Since OSMF page only has 11 likes with little activity, it might make sense to remove the page and focus on OpenStreetMap Facebook page. Same legal rules apply, but we can remove any that we want to protect. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Improper Map Use
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:07 PM, jonathan wrote: > > How does one challenge OSM use that breaks the license? > > Go here: > http://www.wildlifetrusts.org/reserves/trench-wood-nature-reserve > > Scroll down and you'll see a Google Map/Image, if you change the layer to > OSM the Google imprint and terms and conditions link remains :-( I'd first contact the site about the incorrect/missing attribution. It looks like they have a bug in the web design. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements
I received a message from Tableau Software. First a little info about Tableau Software and OSM. Tableau Software is a user of OSM data, contributor and has sponsored OSM events. Because of the size of the message blow is a link to the text of the message. [1] I've summarized their questions below, but the message goes into more detail along with sample images. They are trying to understand how to attribute OSM data on their tiles. While the wiki is clear when describing a simple instance, i.e. Craigslist using of OSM, there doesn't seem to be any help when OSM is just one of many contributors. I apologize if I missed the wiki document that covers all this. I like the Mapbox solution the author mentions of putting a box on the map to take you to another page. I realize that unless the user clicks on the link, they will never discover that OSM contributed to this product. Since OSM may be only one of many contributors this make sense considering that there is only so much screen real estate available. Can I get some feedback on the questions posed so I can answer Tableau? - Is a general link that says "Map Attribution" which is clickable and takes the user to a more detailed page acceptable? - Is a general link that says "Map Attribution" with the pop up like in the above example which would then point to our more detailed page acceptable? - Instead of placing the attribution directly on the map, could it be available from a menu setting on the application toolbar? [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Aj7RFoZ4Ky4Bdo3LPbuLsTVmfOonJbglgR2bg0FpFWo/edit?usp=sharing Thanks, Clifford Snow -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
