Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Working Group 2013

2013-01-22 Thread Jeff Meyer
Would this be an appropriate forum to discuss whether or own slippy map
requires our own copyright mark?

The response to this question in a separate thread on this list has been
vague and non-definitive.

Thanks, Jeff

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote:

 The LWG will hold its first post-license change meeting provisionally
 Tuesday 22nd January at 18:00 GMT/UTC.

 I would like to draw your attention to the following:

 We'll be discussing our future role and any input on that, preferably to
 this list, is most welcome.  We've started putting together a remit
 document here:
 https://docs.google.com/**document/d/1D3KwSM_**BO7KkcbVADQVVn7eFwkD-**
 RNauMwidhhlVPsI/pubhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1D3KwSM_BO7KkcbVADQVVn7eFwkD-RNauMwidhhlVPsI/pub

 We welcome new members and diverse views. If you are interested in opening
 up geospatial data and imagery for anyone to use, please join us.  You can
 contact me at my email address if you want more details or you can join us
 for one meeting to see if you like it.

 If you cannot or do not want to join us long term but have a particular
 issue that is important to you and it is in the best interests of OSM, we
 can make it a project and you can join us for one meeting or a few weeks.
 In the UK, example projects might be freeing up postcodes or public right
 of way route definitions.  Do you have important issues in your country?
 Are you an organisation that is finding OSM data difficult to use for legal
 reasons?

 Mike

 Michael Collinson
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] (c) statement on openstreetmap.org slippy map?

2013-01-17 Thread Jeff Meyer
from http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright:

For a browsable electronic map, the credit should appear in the corner of
the map. For example:

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:

 On 17.01.2013 08:56, Jeff Meyer wrote:
  If we require others to put (c) OpenStreetMap contributors on their
  tiles [...]

 We don't.

 Like ourselves, they can also put it elsewhere, as long as it's
 findable. For example behind a link labelled Copyright and License, or
 an about box in an app.

 At least that was my impression from previous discussions on that topic
 and that's how I do it on my own maps. It's also the only practical
 solution when you have more than one source and limited screen space.

 That there is no copyright information on the mobile version of osm.org
 *at all* is undesirable, though - I used to consider this a bug.

 Tobias

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] (c) statement on openstreetmap.org slippy map?

2013-01-16 Thread Jeff Meyer
Where is it? I didn't see any copyright on osm.org.

On Wednesday, January 16, 2013, Paul Norman wrote:

 There is a prominent copyright  license link on the openstreetmap.orgpage 
 outlining the copyright information in detail.
 osm.org is a bit of a unique case because all the content on the site is
 openstreetmap data and the copyright information is content in its own
 right.

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 *From:* Jeff Meyer [mailto:j...@gwhat.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
 'j...@gwhat.org');]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 16, 2013 5:30 PM
 *To:* legal-talk@openstreetmap.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
 'legal-talk@openstreetmap.org');
 *Subject:* [OSM-legal-talk] (c) statement on openstreetmap.org slippy map?
 

 ** **

 Hi legal types - 

 ** **

 Should we be marking our own map at openstreetmap.org with the same
 markings we ask others to use?

 ** **

 My impression is that you're supposed to mark a copyright in any use of
 the copyrighted material - is that incorrect?

 ** **

 This is the practice Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, and MapQuest use for their
 maps.



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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] (c) statement on openstreetmap.org slippy map?

2013-01-16 Thread Jeff Meyer
Paul -

Are you talking about the link to Copyright and License under Help in
the left-nav or the statement The data is free to
downloadhttp://planet.openstreetmap.org/
 and use http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Using_OpenStreetMap
under its open
license http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright, which is also in the
left-nav?

I would contend that neither of those are a copyright mark.

If we require others to put (c) OpenStreetMap contributors on their tiles,
I believe we are obligated to do the same in order to demonstrate that we
are taking appropriate steps to protect our copyrights.

- Jeff



On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Martin Holmgren d95ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!

 Maybe you are talking about different versions of the site? I just checked
 with my phone, and on the mobile version I can't find any copyright
 information, as the left menu column displayed in the desktop version is
 hidden on the mobile site.

 Kind regards,
 Marty

 17 jan 2013 kl. 05:26 skrev Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org:

 Where is it? I didn't see any copyright on osm.org.

 On Wednesday, January 16, 2013, Paul Norman wrote:

 There is a prominent copyright  license link on the openstreetmap.orgpage 
 outlining the copyright information in detail.
 osm.org is a bit of a unique case because all the content on the site is
 openstreetmap data and the copyright information is content in its own
 right.

 ** **

 *From:* Jeff Meyer [mailto:j...@gwhat.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 16, 2013 5:30 PM
 *To:* legal-talk@openstreetmap.org
 *Subject:* [OSM-legal-talk] (c) statement on openstreetmap.org slippy
 map?

 ** **

 Hi legal types - 

 ** **

 Should we be marking our own map at openstreetmap.org with the same
 markings we ask others to use?

 ** **

 My impression is that you're supposed to mark a copyright in any use of
 the copyrighted material - is that incorrect?

 ** **

 This is the practice Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, and MapQuest use for their
 maps.



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 Global World History Atlas
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