Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Creative-Commons 4.0 (first draft)

[Kolossos]

From my side it would be also interesting to be able to move CC-content 
(e.g. from Wikipedia - WikiData -Open Government) to OSM.
Not sure how to make it compatible in this direction, perhaps is 
dual-licensing a solution.


Greetings Kolossos



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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Possible Wikimania panel: Mass collaboration data projects and policies

[Kolossos]

For my side will be there an other Osm-talk there:

http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Cooperation_with_OpenStreetMap

I hope legal questions are no problem if both projects begin to 
interchange there data.


Greetings


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[OSM-legal-talk] license for Wiki Loves Monuments

[Kolossos]

This september will be a relative large event from Wikimedia-side across 
europe: Wiki Loves Monuments. It is a public photo contest around 
monuments (overview of the cultural heritage, also small houses) and we 
will create lists of monuments in Wikipedia:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011

We (Wikipedia-people) will ask different official side for the object 
lists they have as starting point for us. This lists will contains a lot 
of objects (10.000) with adresses, descriptions, coordinates (with 
luck), year of build, architect,


My question is now under which license or terms we should ask for these 
list so that they later reusable for OpenStreetMap. Would a CC-BY-SA ok 
or should it be ODBL?


Greatings Tim alias Kolossos

 P.S: Are there other ideas to involve OSM in this project?


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Announcement: Add-tags a tool to connect OpenStreetMap Wikipedia

[Kolossos]

Hey,
I'm sure that Interwikilinks in Wikipedia don't have a critical level of 
creativity so that they are trivial enough for us (case b).
If not, wikipedia self couldn't use bots to copy this interwikilinks 
from one wiki to another.
The pure wikipedia-tag is only a reference like a hyperlink so it 
couldn't be a problem.


I accept that OpenStreetMap don't want to use coordinates from wikipedia 
but article-names are surely user-created content that are

provided under a free license or atomic parts as PD.

The Wikimedia foundation don't go the way to take the role of a 
database-provider (like OSMF) so database protection is also no topic.


Last point: Wikimedia foundation support the cooperation with OpenStreetMap.

So under all these aspects there should be no problem.

 Greetings Kolossos (INAL)

P.S.: The license and the interpretation should be for the project, not 
against it.


Am 09.04.2011 14:40, schrieb Frederik Ramm:

Hi,

Kolossos wrote:

there is a new tool to bring more Wikipedia-Tags inside OSM-database
and connect so both projects more and more. It can be found here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RemoteControl/Add-tags

It's the idea to use later this connections to highlight the matching
OSM objects in the map that we use in Wikipedia.
It brings also the information that was collected collected in
Wikipedia like Interwikilinks into OSM to render better
multilingual-maps.


Care should be taken to only copy information in the Wikipedia-OSM
direction when that information is either

a) in the public domain, or
b) trivial enough to not warrant any copyright protection, or
c) the relevant Wikiepdia authors have agreed.

Otherwise, the information copied from Wikipedia would be strictly
CC-BY-SA licensed and would have to be removed when we change our
license to ODbL.

(Followup-to legal-talk.)

Bye
Frederik





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