[OSM-legal-talk] Explicitly adding some licenses in 4.4 iii

2008-10-27 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
One of the main problems with sharealike/copyleft is the large number of
incompatible licenses. I suggest explicitly adding some important such
licenses to 4.4 iii, so we don't lock too many other free communities
out from using OSM data.

At least the most common ones like GPLv2 or later, LGPL, GFDL and
CC-BY-SA should be added.

Use case 1:
Creating a flyer about some topic where images from wikimedia commons
are combined with a map created from OSM data. According to
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:GNU_licenses there are
1319405 GFDLed, 6127 LGPLed, 13575 GPLed and over 40 CC-BY-SA
(different versions) images on Wikimedia commons.

Use case 2:
Using OSM in a documentary movie: Places relevant to the movie's topic
are shown on a map created from OSM data. Zoom in to a place, then
there's a movie sequence about that place, repeat for other places. For
the documentary footage placed under a CC license from archive.org's
moving image archive is used.

Philipp

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Explicitly adding some licenses in 4.4 iii

2008-10-27 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Philipp Klaus Krause <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One of the main problems with sharealike/copyleft is the large number of
> incompatible licenses. I suggest explicitly adding some important such
> licenses to 4.4 iii, so we don't lock too many other free communities
> out from using OSM data.

This is a problem but the licence authors are working on it.

> At least the most common ones like GPLv2 or later, LGPL, GFDL and
> CC-BY-SA should be added.

This will make things worse rather than better as it will fork some
OSM derivatives into four different incompatible streams.

> Use case 1:
> Creating a flyer about some topic where images from wikimedia commons
> are combined with a map created from OSM data. According to
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:GNU_licenses there are
> 1319405 GFDLed, 6127 LGPLed, 13575 GPLed and over 40 CC-BY-SA
> (different versions) images on Wikimedia commons.

CC and the FSF are discussing FDL/BY-SA compatibility and Wikipedia is
committed to moving to BY-SA.

BY-SA 1.0 is gone, we have to let it go. ;-) Versions after 2.0 are
compatible with each other and with OSM.

> Use case 2:
> Using OSM in a documentary movie: Places relevant to the movie's topic
> are shown on a map created from OSM data. Zoom in to a place, then
> there's a movie sequence about that place, repeat for other places. For
> the documentary footage placed under a CC license from archive.org's
> moving image archive is used.

This use case seems like it should be possible with the current
licence unless I've missed something again?

- Rob.

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Explicitly adding some licenses in 4.4 iii

2008-10-28 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
Rob Myers schrieb:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Philipp Klaus Krause <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> One of the main problems with sharealike/copyleft is the large number of
>> incompatible licenses. I suggest explicitly adding some important such
>> licenses to 4.4 iii, so we don't lock too many other free communities
>> out from using OSM data.
> 
> This is a problem but the licence authors are working on it.
> 
>> At least the most common ones like GPLv2 or later, LGPL, GFDL and
>> CC-BY-SA should be added.
> 
> This will make things worse rather than better as it will fork some
> OSM derivatives into four different incompatible streams.
> 

I don't think this will make forks more likely. Thinking of the use
cases I mentioned I think people will improve OSM to suit their needs,
then create the flyer/movie/whatever as a derived work from both the OSM
data and something else. The flyer wouldn't make sense to somehow merge
back into OSM anyway.

Philipp


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