Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: [OSM-talk] copyright problemwith datacopiedfrom a map
On 18/08/09 11:18, Peter Miller wrote: On 18 Aug 2009, at 10:30, Tom Hughes wrote: On 18/08/09 09:27, Peter Miller wrote: Andy mentions that copyright violation needs to go to the Data Working Group. Why? Sure the foundation needs a log of action of copyright violations, but I don't see why the requested reverts, or 'plastering over the cracks' can't be put onto a public list by a concerned member of the public and is then acted on by a suitably confident member of the community. The foundation then steps back and only gets directly involved in the bigger more problematic cases. The Data Working Group can do things, like sending email direct to the user from somebody official (ie the foundation) that ordinary users are not able to do. Hopefully people will be more likely to respond to such communication to explain what they are doing which can help determine whether there is in fact a problem with the data. But surely that is no reason not to set up community structures to deal with local vandalism at a local level where that can be achieved and to only escalate the most serious instances to the working group. As the OSM Dataset gets more complete and more accurate vandalism is going to become more of an issue and disruptive to the integrity of the project even if it is minor in nature, let alone what a serious vandal could do. We were talking about copyright infringement, not vandalism. That requires trying to talk to the user to find out where the data is coming from and why they believe it is OK to use. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: [OSM-talk] copyright problemwith datacopiedfrom a map
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Peter Millerpeter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: On 18 Aug 2009, at 10:30, Tom Hughes wrote: On 18/08/09 09:27, Peter Miller wrote: Andy mentions that copyright violation needs to go to the Data Working Group. Why? Sure the foundation needs a log of action of copyright violations, but I don't see why the requested reverts, or 'plastering over the cracks' can't be put onto a public list by a concerned member of the public and is then acted on by a suitably confident member of the community. The foundation then steps back and only gets directly involved in the bigger more problematic cases. The Data Working Group can do things, like sending email direct to the user from somebody official (ie the foundation) that ordinary users are not able to do. Hopefully people will be more likely to respond to such communication to explain what they are doing which can help determine whether there is in fact a problem with the data. But surely that is no reason not to set up community structures to deal with local vandalism at a local level where that can be achieved and to only escalate the most serious instances to the working group. Sure, and that's the explicit requirement before forwarding vandalism cases. Most of the people in this conversation were talking about the OP which was not vandalism -- it was copyright infringement. These are not the same things. Dave ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
