Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is this clickthrough agreement compatible with OSM?

2010-08-26 Thread Gregory Arenius
Replying to myself here but...

The city sent me a prompt reply to my email.

They're big fans of our work and would like to help.  I will probably be
meeting with one of them in the coming week to discuss ways that we can
collaborate and what data sets we would like access to.  I wanted to ask
here what exactly I need to ask for with respect to licensing?  Just
explicit permission to use the data in OSM?  Anything else?

Thanks,
Greg





On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Gregory Arenius wrote:

> I must have missed that particular section somehow.
>
> I sent off an email to ask the city if we could get the data under a
> license we could use.  We'll see what happens.
>
> As to how many OSMers are in the city its hard to say exactly.  There are a
> few people working on the map pretty frequently and a lot of one time
> editors who just edit one or two points.  Interestingly one of the last one
> time editors had the user name Monica at sfgov.
>
> Greg
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is this clickthrough agreement compatible with OSM?

2010-08-25 Thread Gregory Arenius
I must have missed that particular section somehow.

I sent off an email to ask the city if we could get the data under a license
we could use.  We'll see what happens.

As to how many OSMers are in the city its hard to say exactly.  There are a
few people working on the map pretty frequently and a lot of one time
editors who just edit one or two points.  Interestingly one of the last one
time editors had the user name Monica at sfgov.

Greg
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is this clickthrough agreement compatible with OSM?

2010-08-25 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega

On 25/08/2010 13:29, Richard Weait wrote:

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Gregory Arenius  wrote:

http://gispub02.sfgov.org/website/sfshare/index2.asp

>

That license looks pretty bad to me, from an "including the data in
OSM" point of view.


Nonetheless, it's not one of the worse licenses I've seen. I guess that 
SFgov would be willing to share some data if asked nicely.


Speaking of which, how many people from the OSM-US "chapter" are there 
in SF? A meeting between OSM-US and SFgov could prove useful IMHO.



Best,
--
Iván Sánchez Ortega 

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is this clickthrough agreement compatible with OSM?

2010-08-25 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Gregory Arenius  wrote:
> I've been considering bringing in some of the data available at
> http://www.datasf.org .  Most of it is behind this clickthrough agreement:
> http://gispub02.sfgov.org/website/sfshare/index2.asp . I think it would be
> okay but I thought I would ask here before I really started doing any work
> on it.

That license looks pretty bad to me, from an "including the data in
OSM" point of view.  I don't see any grant of rights to the user
beyond the permission to download.  Section IV grants the city all
rights to derivatives and no rights to you to make those derivatives.

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[OSM-legal-talk] Is this clickthrough agreement compatible with OSM?

2010-08-25 Thread Gregory Arenius
I've been considering bringing in some of the data available at
http://www.datasf.org .  Most of it is behind this clickthrough agreement:
http://gispub02.sfgov.org/website/sfshare/index2.asp . I think it would be
okay but I thought I would ask here before I really started doing any work
on it.

Thanks,
Greg
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