Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal regulation of the use of OSM data
Am 12.03.20 um 16:54 schrieb Полина Новикова via legal-talk: > > Hello, everybody! > > Please deal with the issue of legal regulation of OSM data. > > If we collect data from your API in XML format or perhaps directly from the > front of the API in JSON format (is there any difference in this situation?). > The final format for displaying data is the pins of organizations in the > custom (our) design, which we place on a third-party map, with the ability to > do so under license. Users can find out what type of organization and what > kind of organization, filter organizations on the map, i.e., for example, > view only hospitals. We assume to take and reflect on the map only socially > significant objects on the map - schools, kindergartens, sports institutions, > hospitals and shops (a fairly small number of objects). Is this obvious > limits to the usefulness? > > If we allow to use the specified data on our site, which we put on a map, and > under the terms of the purpose is not to extract the data, but only for the > user to see these data, i.e. the goal is to bring it to the end user as shown > in the example with Garmin maps on the site at the link > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Produced_Work_-_Guideline > and it says it's Produced Work. In our situation, is this also a Produced > Work? > I am not sure if I understand the facts correctly. In general, however, one can say: If you query all "amenity = hospital" for a specific region, then this is a database extract from the OSM database for which section 4.4 of the ODbL applies. It does not matter whether the query is made by many individual queries or by a single large query. If you show the geographical position and the related information of "amenity = hospital" on a map, this display is a produced work. It is particularly important to note that if you use information from "amenity = hospital" from the OSM database with your own data and information about hospitals, then you create a "derivative database". In this case, section 4.6 of the ODbL also applies. The own data are then to be released on request (share alike)! > And I would like to clarify about attribution. The guideline states that we > should indicate that we are contributors and provide a link to distribution > under the ODbL license, on the other hand, for Produced Work in clause 4.3. > license ODbL is written a little differently and that is not consistent with > the logic written in guidline. Based on this, the question arises whether it > is enough that we specify that the map simply contains information from the > OSM as indicated at the beginning of paragraph 4.3? I agree with you that the FAQ does not properly fit the licensing terms in 4.3 of the ODbL. In particular, the descriptions in the FAQ do not do justice to the idea behind the attribution. You can choose your own license for a produced work, see section 4.5. b of the ODbL. A proprietary license is also possible for the produced work. The idea behind the attribution with the specification of the license refers to it. A proprietary license can prevent the user from reusing the produced work. The attribution and license information for the source should enable the user to create a comparable produced work from the open data. For this reason, the ODbL recommends stating the name of the database and the license in section 4.3a of the ODbL. I therefore recommend the following information: "Data: OpenStreetMap-Contributors (Open Database License)". In addition to the information on the data, a separate license can be added for the produced work: "Map design: (c) [name], license XYZ. Regards, Falk ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal regulation of the use of OSM data
Not a lawyer, but I will try to answer obvious ones. Mar 12, 2020, 16:54 by legal-talk@openstreetmap.org: > Hello, everybody! > > Please deal with the issue of legal regulation of OSM data. > > If we collect data from your API in XML format or perhaps directly from the > front of the API in JSON format (is there any difference in this situation?). > No, there is no difference as far as copyright is concerned. > The final format for displaying data is the pins of organizations in the > custom (our) design, which we place on a third-party map, with the ability to > do so under license. Users can find out what type of organization and what > kind of organization, filter organizations on the map, i.e., for example, > view only hospitals. We assume to take and reflect on the map only socially > significant objects on the map - schools, kindergartens, sports institutions, > hospitals and shops (a fairly small number of objects). Is this obvious > limits to the usefulness? > "Is this obvious limits to the usefulness?" - not sure what kind of legal question is asked here. > > If we allow to use the specified data on our site, which we put on a map, and > under the terms of the purpose is not to extract the data, but only for the > user to see these data, i.e. the goal is to bring it to the end user as shown > in the example with Garmin maps on the site at the link> > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Produced_Work_-_Guideline> > > and it says it's Produced Work. In our situation, is this also a Produced > Work? > Not a lawyer, so not sure about usefulness of my advise here. (feel free to replay asking me to answer and I will do this but..) > And I would like to clarify about attribution. The guideline states that we > should indicate that we are contributors and provide a link to distribution > under the ODbL license, on the other hand, for Produced Work in clause 4.3. > license ODbL is written a little differently and that is not consistent with > the logic written in guidline. > What exactly is the problem? > Based on this, the question arises whether it is enough that we specify that > the map simply contains information from the OSM as indicated at the > beginning of paragraph 4.3? > Visible text indicating that markers are from OSM is certainly necessary. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Legal regulation of the use of OSM data
Hello, everybody! Please deal with the issue of legal regulation of OSM data. If we collect data from your API in XML format or perhaps directly from the front of the API in JSON format (is there any difference in this situation?). The final format for displaying data is the pins of organizations in the custom (our) design, which we place on a third-party map, with the ability to do so under license. Users can find out what type of organization and what kind of organization, filter organizations on the map, i.e., for example, view only hospitals. We assume to take and reflect on the map only socially significant objects on the map - schools, kindergartens, sports institutions, hospitals and shops (a fairly small number of objects). Is this obvious limits to the usefulness? If we allow to use the specified data on our site, which we put on a map, and under the terms of the purpose is not to extract the data, but only for the user to see these data, i.e. the goal is to bring it to the end user as shown in the example with Garmin maps on the site at the link https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Produced_Work_-_Guideline and it says it's Produced Work. In our situation, is this also a Produced Work? And I would like to clarify about attribution. The guideline states that we should indicate that we are contributors and provide a link to distribution under the ODbL license, on the other hand, for Produced Work in clause 4.3. license ODbL is written a little differently and that is not consistent with the logic written in guidline. Based on this, the question arises whether it is enough that we specify that the map simply contains information from the OSM as indicated at the beginning of paragraph 4.3? Best regards, Polina N. polisha...@mail.ru ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
